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1. 06:00 AM - Re: Rudder position in an XL (David Barth)
2. 10:57 AM - CH701 lights (Ashcraft, Keith -AES)
3. 11:21 AM - Re: CH701 lights (Eddie G.)
4. 11:39 AM - Re: CH701 lights (Carlos Sa)
5. 01:59 PM - Re: CH701 lights (Robin Gould)
6. 02:04 PM - Re: CH701 lights (Ashcraft, Keith -AES)
7. 02:12 PM - Re: Rudder position in an XL (CLOJAN@aol.com)
8. 02:21 PM - Re: CH701 lights (Larry McFarland)
9. 03:56 PM - Re: CH701 lights (Ed Kramer)
10. 06:13 PM - Re: CH701 lights (Benford2@aol.com)
11. 06:20 PM - Re: Rudder position in an XL (Frank Jones)
12. 06:24 PM - 601XL snag notes (Frank Jones)
13. 08:32 PM - (no subject) (tony webster)
14. 08:57 PM - Re: (no subject) (Ray Montagne)
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder position in an XL |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: David Barth <davids601xl@yahoo.com>
Hi Bill.
I sat in the demonstrator at Oshkosh and found it fit
perfectly - rudder pedal placement wise. I believe
those pedals are at 245 from the front wall but you
will want to check that. I am about the same size as
you. 5'9" with a 31" inseam. Haven't placed mine yet
but will be modeling after the demo. Hope that helps a
little.
David
do not archive
> Is there anyone else in that size range? what did
> you set your rudder pedal
> position to?
>
> Bill Howerton
> 601 XL - Corvair
> Tail done;
> Just started the motor rebuild;
> fuselage in progress
>
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David Barth
601 XL Plansbuilder
Still making parts. Nose Ribs Done and about half the rear ribs for the wings.
Stab and elevator waiting for skins. Flaps, ailerons and Rudder ready for inspection.
__________________________________
http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ashcraft, Keith -AES" <Keith.Ashcraft@itt.com>
Hello All,
It seems like not a whole lot of traffic has been moving here lately, so
I will ask a question. Has anybody thought about or fitted a CH701 with
lights for night flying? I am a long ways from this right now, but I
just wanted to start thinking about what to do when the time comes!!
Keith
CH701 tail section 95%--kit
everything else---------scratch
N 38.9917
W 105.1349
ALT. 9,100'
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| Subject: | Re: CH701 lights |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Eddie G." <eddieg@netzero.net>
Keith,
The biggest source of lamp burnouts on the prop planes is the engine
vibration. Leave it to big manufacturers to stick the lamps right inside
the cowling! You want it as far away from the engine as you can, somewhere
in the wing. Look at Cessna's new lineup of 172 or 182. By the time you're
done you might even find some LED landing lights to put them in a low
profile straight line like some of the new concept cars.
Eddie
At 10:49 AM 09/09/2003, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ashcraft, Keith -AES"
><Keith.Ashcraft@itt.com>
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>Hello All,
>It seems like not a whole lot of traffic has been moving here lately, so
>I will ask a question. Has anybody thought about or fitted a CH701 with
>lights for night flying? I am a long ways from this right now, but I
>just wanted to start thinking about what to do when the time comes!!
>
>Keith
>CH701 tail section 95%--kit
>everything else---------scratch
>
>N 38.9917
>W 105.1349
>ALT. 9,100'
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| Subject: | Re: CH701 lights |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Hi, Keith
I asked Nick what is the recommended location for lights (assuming you are mounting
them on the
wing's leading edge).
He said "near the tip" (or words to that effect).
That was regarding the 601, but I presume it also applies to the 701.
If you want some additional information, there has been some recent discussion
on the Aeroelectric
list.
You can subscribe to the list or simply browse the complete archives or weekly
archive.
Carlos
> It seems like not a whole lot of traffic has been moving here lately, so
> I will ask a question. Has anybody thought about or fitted a CH701 with
> lights for night flying? I am a long ways from this right now, but I
> just wanted to start thinking about what to do when the time comes!!
>
> Keith
> CH701 tail section 95%--kit
> everything else---------scratch
>
> N 38.9917
> W 105.1349
> ALT. 9,100'
>
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| Subject: | Re: CH701 lights |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Robin Gould <rgould1@ix.netcom.com>
Keith,
Here is a site that features some interesting LED Position Lights.
Not a direct application but Maybe........
http://www.killacycle.com/Lights.htm
Rob G.
Ashcraft, Keith -AES wrote:
>
>
>Hello All,
> Has anybody thought about or fitted a CH701 with
>lights for night flying?
>
>Keith
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: CH701 lights |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ashcraft, Keith -AES" <Keith.Ashcraft@itt.com>
Thanks, Eddie and Carlos. It gave me some ideas, and avenues that I can go
down.
Keith
CH701 tail section 95%--kit
everything else---------scratch
Buzz me anytime if your in the area!!
N 38.9917
W 105.1349
ALT. 9,100'
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder position in an XL |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: CLOJAN@aol.com
Bill: I had this same problem a few months ago. Not knowing how the thing
will "sit" I decided to place the peddles where the plans showed in the original
position. Now that I can sit in the fuselage it seems about right. I won't
know for sure until the seat pad is installed but I figured I could move the
whole thing is I had to.
Jack Russell
5'11- 32" inseam -175lbs- blue eyes- blond
XL -Fuselage
jab 3300
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| Subject: | Re: CH701 lights |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
----- Original Message -----
Subject: Zenith-List: CH701 lights
> Hello All,
Has anybody thought about or fitted a CH701 with
> lights for night flying? I am a long ways from this right now, but I
> just wanted to start thinking about what to do when the time comes!!
>
> Keith
Keith,
First consider if you fly anywhere near a control tower.
Having lights suggests itself when you're trying to make a destination after
the sun is
nearly gone or when it snows and obscures the sun. I've done both
without lights and would have loved to have had them at the time. The
inclination to say yes
to both instrument remote lighting, wing tip and landing lights if possible,
but if you fly from your
own turf, the hassle of putting more than a wind driven generator and
battery may seem a bit much.
In either case, take a flashlight and your GPS too!
Respectfully, it's your call.
Larry C. McFarland - 601hds at www.macsmachine.com
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| Subject: | Re: CH701 lights |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ed Kramer" <edair701@adelphia.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashcraft, Keith -AES" <Keith.Ashcraft@itt.com>
> I will ask a question. Has anybody thought about or fitted a CH701 with
> lights for night flying?
Keith,
This year at Oshkosh I seen a 701 with a landing light built in the
leading edge slat on the left wing. It looked like a simple task. The light
was small and had a flush Plexiglas cover riveted to the skin, and it wasn't
adjustable in any way.
Ed Kramer
West Seneca, NY
CH 701
edair701@adelphia.net
Build Status:
Rudder completed
Left wing complete
Right wing 98%
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| Subject: | Re: CH701 lights |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
In a message dated 9/9/2003 11:59:01 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
Keith.Ashcraft@itt.com writes:
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ashcraft, Keith -AES" <
> Keith.Ashcraft@itt.com>
>
> Hello All,
> It seems like not a whole lot of traffic has been moving here lately, so
> I will ask a question. Has anybody thought about or fitted a CH701 with
> lights for night flying? I am a long ways from this right now, but I
> just wanted to start thinking about what to do when the time comes!!
>
> Keith
> CH701 tail section 95%--kit
> everything else---------scratch
>
> N 38.9917
> W 105.1349
> ALT. 9,100'
>
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>
Why not. Where are ya at being at 9200 MSL????
do not archive
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| Subject: | Rudder position in an XL |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Frank Jones" <fjones@sympatico.ca>
Once you've fixed the rudder position you can still play with it a bit
by lengthing or shortening the rudder cable turnbuckles and steering
rods. Try to make sure that you've built your rudder cables to the range
of adjustment can be accomodated. I'm at the extreme extension of my
cables with 3 threads showing on the turnbuckles and wish I'd made my
cables about 10mm longer, but the fit isn't too bad.
Frank Jones
C-GYXQ
601XL/912S
Final Inspection Done Clearing Snags
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Howerton
Subject: Zenith-List: Rudder position in an XL
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Howerton" <Bill@Howerton.com>
As I round the corner in my fuselage building, I noticed that in the
next section of the plans I am to decide on the position of the rudder
pedals. This is of course without the aid of an available set of
adjustable XL seat and pedals to measure against. Talk about having to
take shots in the dark! I've searched the archives to little avail, so
I'm asking for your inputs where you guys set yours at. I noticed that
this question has been asked before, but no one seems to have gotten a
coherent answer. Perhaps ZAC and company might consider putting a
simple chart on their website
According to the plans (6-B-9 and instructions 6-B-8 page 1), they can
be set from 245 to 200 mm from the front of the cabin floor skin and the
firewall. I'm a fairly short man - 5'8" with a 31 inch inseam.
Normally when I fly in a 172, I have to push the seat almost all the way
forward, and crank it up to it's highest position to be able to
comfortabley manipulate the pedals and to allow me to see over the
cowling.
Is there anyone else in that size range? what did you set your rudder
pedal position to?
Bill Howerton
601 XL - Corvair
Tail done;
Just started the motor rebuild;
fuselage in progress
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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| Subject: | 601XL snag notes |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Frank Jones" <fjones@sympatico.ca>
I just had my final inspection done and the inspector snagged me on 3
design related issues. Thought I'd share them with you for
consideration. IMO the concerns are valid.
1. The rudder attach bolts in my plans called for an AN3-5A and AN3-6A.
The inspector insists on using AN3-5 and AN3-6 with castle nuts on this.
2. He would not pass the plane without a change to the fuel selector
valves. Specifically he insisted on a single 3-way valve to be placed
away from passenger's feet. Two reasons. 1) the design places the right
valve at the passengers feet, 2) a two valve system is more error prone
than a single valve. (i.e. only one valve should be open at a time, and
a single shutoff point should be provided not multiples). Weatherhead
offers a $20 3-way valve that solves this problem. Worth considering
swapping out the two independent valves for this single valve.
3. He has asked that I recheck that the M-bolts provided in the firewall
forward kit to attach the prop extension to the hub on the engine are
long enough. The bolts appear to be holding by approximately 6 threads,
and the end of the bolt is clearly recessed inside the lug nuts. He
feels that the bolts should be long enough to come out the end of the
lug nut at least. I'm checking with Zenith on this.
Frank Jones - C-GYXQ - 601XL / 912S
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: tony webster <caw@nctc.com>
where can
i find a
list of
the AD"s
for the
CH300
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| Subject: | Re: (no subject) |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Ray Montagne <ac6qj@earthlink.net>
On 9/9/03 10:24 PM, "tony webster" <caw@nctc.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: tony webster <caw@nctc.com>
>
> Where can I find a list of the AD's for the CH300?
>
Try
<http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAD.nsf/MainFram
e?OpenFrameSet> for Airworthiness Directives on file with the FAA. Please
note that only certificated aircraft are listed on the FAA web site.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Best Regards, Ray Montagne
Cupertino, CA
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Zenith Aircraft Zodiac CH-601-XL, Jabiru 3300
Construction Log & Photos: <http://home.earthlink.net/~ac6qj/zodiac>
Build Status: Rudder completed
Elevator Completed
Stabilizer Completed
Flaps Completed
Ailerons Completed
Right Wing Completed
Right Wing Tip Completed
Left Wing Completed
Right Wing Tip Under Construction
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