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     1. 02:34 AM - Re: (no subject) (Bryan Martin)
     2. 06:52 AM - Landing Light Installation on the 601HDS (charles.long@gm.com)
     3. 08:29 AM - 701 lights (H. Robert Schoenberger)
     4. 09:57 AM - Re: 701 lights (Hal Rozema)
     5. 01:02 PM - 701 Lights (RURUNY@aol.com)
     6. 01:46 PM - Seat Fabrication - 601HDS (charles.long@gm.com)
     7. 02:27 PM - Re: Rudder position in an XL (Gary Gower)
     8. 03:11 PM - Re: Seat Fabrication - 601HDS ()
     9. 03:19 PM - Re: Seat Fabrication - 601HDS (Frank Jones)
    10. 04:51 PM - Re: Seat Fabrication - 601HDS (Jeff Small)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: (no subject) | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
      
      on 9/10/03 1:24 AM, tony webster at caw@nctc.com wrote:
      
      > --> Zenith-List message posted by: tony webster <caw@nctc.com>
      > 
      > where can
      > i find a
      > list of
      > the AD"s
      > for the
      > CH300
      
      AD's are only issued for certificated aircraft not for homebuilts. The
      designer of a homebuilt may issue notices of any design changes he feels
      should be made. You should check with Zenith Aircraft.
      http://www.zenithair.com/
      
      
      -- 
      Bryan Martin
      N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
      Airframe construction complete.
      Panel and engine installed.
      Working on electrical and interior.
      do not archive.
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Landing Light Installation on the 601HDS | 
       09/10/2003 09:50:04 AM
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: charles.long@gm.com
      
            Since the subject of Landing light location has come up, I would be
      willing to share my approach with those interested.  Ended up mounting two
      redundant 55w halogen driving lights just ahead of the landing gear boxes.
      Also included fairings to reduce drag.  Kills two birds with one stone.
      Installation came out looking pretty nice. Cost about $30 and took less
      than 8 hours to make with simple tools.  Can provide pics if you Email me
      direct.
      
            Chuck Long
            N601LE, 80% complete
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "H. Robert Schoenberger" <HRS4@prodigy.net>
      
      List  . . . Why not consider some sort of light mounted on the strut.  It would
      be simple and easy to maintain.   I intend to put my pitot tube on the strut
      for the same reason.  Hap Schoenberger, 701 tail complete, working on right wing.
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Zenith-List message posted by: Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net>
      
      I figure the 701 is such a draggy design (sweet, and neat, but a box none the less)
      that I chose a simple way to accomplish two things. Most certified planes
      have a taxi and landing light.  VSTOL designs need a normal landing and a VSTOL
      (extreme high angle of attack) landing light.  They will also serve as taxi and
      landing lights.  At AutoZone or Whitney catalogue I bought a pair of "off road"
      high intensity 380,000cp 100 watt 3"x6" prox. driving lights.  These are mounted
      under the seat, just ahead of the landing gear channel with a .060 doubler inside.
      Individual switches on my power bus. They can be adjust separately, one forward
      and one downward.
      
      Hal Rozema
      theplanefolks.net
      VSTOL 701/J3300 N701PF
      
      "H. Robert Schoenberger" wrote:
      
      > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "H. Robert Schoenberger" <HRS4@prodigy.net>
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      > List  . . . Why not consider some sort of light mounted on the strut.  It would
      be simple and easy to maintain.   I intend to put my pitot tube on the strut
      for the same reason.  Hap Schoenberger, 701 tail complete, working on right
      wing.
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com
      
      Go to this link to see a 701 with light on slat leading edge.
      
      http://www.zenithair.com/stolch701/7updates.html
      
      about the 4th picture down. This was the back cover picture on experimenter magazine
      in the August issue, and the plane says Skyshops on the side of it. When
      I install a landing/taxi light this is how I will probably do it. 
      
      Brian
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Seat Fabrication - 601HDS | 
       09/10/2003 04:45:40 PM
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: charles.long@gm.com
      
            I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I was have trouble
      coming up with comfortable seats for my HDS.  Was using 1.5" green foam
      from JoAnn Fabrics for the back and leg rest cushions.  Tried thicker 2"
      and then 3" green foam for the bottom cushion which wedges in between the
      other two.  My back and legs were comfortable enough, but my posterior felt
      caught in a clamshell.  Not a very comfortable feeling.
            To make a long story short, I took a gamble and purchased a piece of
      3" x 16" x 18" temper foam from Aircraft Spruce for $80 (p/n 01-09300).
      This material was supposedly used for astronaut seats and the price
      reflects it too.  At any rate I was able to get by with one piece and cut
      it into 2 wedges using the family's electric kitchen knife.  This tool
      worked great but I had to do some fast talking when my wife caught me using
      it!  The finished product fits nicely between & on top of the back & leg
      cushions.  The new material choice made all the difference in the world.
      You sink into this stuff to a comfortable degree but because it's three
      layers of progressively stiffer foam, you no longer get "The Wedges".
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rudder position in an XL | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
      
      When we were installing the peddles we had similar problems,  betwen
      the four persons that will fly our 701 (Dad, Larry, Myself and Carlos
      our friend and building partner) there is a diference in height of
      about 8 inches, so our fist idea was to make to set of holes (forward
      and rear) make the rudder cables fit the shorter position and use
      larger cables plates (7-C-6-1) that could reach both positions.  and
      have two sets of threaded steel rods for the steering rods (7-L-1-2J). 
       we initially installed per plans (forward position).  Now that the
      cabin is finished and we could "ground test" the cabin, we came with a
      better solution:  We have a set of pillows (sp? right word?)custom 
      made that will fasten with velcro to the "taller" upholstery for the
      shorter pilots,  when the pillows are not used they will be in the
      bagagge compartment with the velcros,   now we have both systems, the
      one that works better will stay,  of course will keep you posted when
      the plane gets to fly (HOPE SOON).
      
      Saludos
      Gary Gower
      701 912S
      --- CLOJAN@aol.com wrote:
      > --> Zenith-List message posted by: CLOJAN@aol.com
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      > Bill: I had this same problem a few months ago. Not knowing how the
      > thing 
      > will "sit" I decided to place the peddles where the plans showed in
      > the original 
      > position. Now that I can sit in the fuselage it seems about right. I
      > won't 
      > know for sure until the seat pad is installed but I figured I could
      > move the 
      > whole thing is I had to. 
      > Jack Russell
      > 5'11- 32" inseam -175lbs- blue eyes- blond
      > XL -Fuselage
      > jab 3300
      > 
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      __________________________________
      http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Seat Fabrication - 601HDS | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: <george.pinneo@ngc.com>
      
      Check the archives: I've been flying the 3-layer Temperfoam for 400 hours in the
      seat bottom with 2' foam in the backrest.  No issues.
      
      GGP
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Seat Fabrication - 601HDS | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Frank Jones" <fjones@sympatico.ca>
      
      If you have to buy Temperfoam in the future you might take a look at
      Wicks. I found it was substantially cheaper than Aircraft Spruce.
      
      Frank Jones
      C-GYXQ 601XL/912S
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      charles.long@gm.com
      Subject: Zenith-List: Seat Fabrication - 601HDS
      
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: charles.long@gm.com
      
            I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I was have trouble
      coming up with comfortable seats for my HDS.  Was using 1.5" green foam
      from JoAnn Fabrics for the back and leg rest cushions.  Tried thicker 2"
      and then 3" green foam for the bottom cushion which wedges in between
      the other two.  My back and legs were comfortable enough, but my
      posterior felt caught in a clamshell.  Not a very comfortable feeling.
            To make a long story short, I took a gamble and purchased a piece
      of 3" x 16" x 18" temper foam from Aircraft Spruce for $80 (p/n
      01-09300). This material was supposedly used for astronaut seats and the
      price reflects it too.  At any rate I was able to get by with one piece
      and cut it into 2 wedges using the family's electric kitchen knife.
      This tool worked great but I had to do some fast talking when my wife
      caught me using it!  The finished product fits nicely between & on top
      of the back & leg cushions.  The new material choice made all the
      difference in the world. You sink into this stuff to a comfortable
      degree but because it's three layers of progressively stiffer foam, you
      no longer get "The Wedges".
      
      
      direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Seat Fabrication - 601HDS | 
      Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 19:50:28 -0400
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff Small" <zodiacjeff@msn.com>
      
      
        >Check the archives: I've been flying the 3-layer Temperfoam for 400 hours in
      seat bottom with 2'
        >foam in the backrest.  No issues.
      
        Amen.  Same setup as George.  Ten hours in the seat out to Kansas City last month
      - not a single "hot spot."  On the return did a 3.4 hour non stop from Cincinnati-Blue
      Ash to N94 (390 miles) without ever noticing the seat - and not
      noticing the seat is the best of endorsements.
      
        BTW, Wicks has the stuff much cheaper than ACS.
      
        http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/authors/bingelis/2Carving%20Foam%20Seats.html#TopOfPage
      
        tailwinds  jeff
      
      
      
      
      
      
 
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