---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 09/14/03: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:04 AM - Aviation art (RFG842@aol.com) 2. 12:35 PM - Fuel sender and gage (H. Robert Schoenberger) 3. 04:19 PM - Re: Zenith / Jabiru Engine Instruments (Leo J. Corbalis) 4. 04:20 PM - Re: Avery Tools (Don Walker) 5. 04:54 PM - Aileron Bellcrank (owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com) 6. 05:09 PM - Re: Aileron Bellcrank (ZSMITH3rd@aol.com) 7. 05:26 PM - Re: Fuel sender and gage (Larry McFarland) 8. 06:27 PM - Re: Aileron Bellcrank (Randall Stout) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:04:19 AM PST US From: RFG842@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: Aviation art --> Zenith-List message posted by: RFG842@aol.com Value is in the eye of the behlder, especially when it comes to the IRS. Jeff had an excellent idea and I would be willing to bet a steak dinner, that the value attested to by the receiving enity to use as a tax decuction would be much more that any monies received in a sale. Bob, Wichita ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:35:33 PM PST US From: "H. Robert Schoenberger" Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel sender and gage --> Zenith-List message posted by: "H. Robert Schoenberger" List . . . I am installing the fuel sender in the right wing of my 701. I have made a "test stand" which is a sheet of aluminun which holds the round, gasketed part of the sender the same height above the worktable as it will be when in the tank. If I get the fuel gage to read correctly when the arm with the modified ping pong ball at the end is moved up and down through air, will it read the same when immersed in fuel? I am not too keen on messing with 10 gallons of fuel in the uninstalled tank. Secondly, this appears to be an almost "for keeps" installation. What have some of you used on the tightening screw where the float rod goes through the pin coming out of the rheostat? I would think that it would vibrate loose after a time, rendering the gage useless or even worse giving false reading. Thanks for your help. Hap Schoenberger 701 tail completed, 75% on right wing. PS - an off the wall question - have any of you flown the Chinook 'untralight' built in Canada. I'm a bit tired of standing on the ground watching all my buddies fly away while I'm building the 701. It seems to have a lot of the characteristics of the 701. All opinions appreciated. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:19:33 PM PST US From: "Leo J. Corbalis" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith / Jabiru Engine Instruments --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo J. Corbalis" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Small" I bought a Grand Rapids EIS for my Zodiac 601HDS in 1995, upgraded to a bigger readout later and am very happy with it. Service is EXCELLEMT! One suggestion : Put a large plain piezo beeper in paralell with the warning light. Stick it to the back of the panel with 3M double sided foam tape. It will get your attention NOW. An additional bonus, when you forget to turn the master sw. OFF, you will be nagged to do so automatically when the oil press drops. Don't ask! Leo Corbalis leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:20:37 PM PST US From: "Don Walker" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Avery Tools Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 12:26:05 -0500 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Walker" It is true there are many solid Stratus engines flying. Most old Subaru engines seem to do well with their guides if they haven't been tampered with. It is those which have been knocked out and knurled that are causing the problems, it seems. Even guides without shoulders seem to do okay if they have been assembled by heating the head and cooling the guide using a properly oversize guide for the bore. I think this is where Stratus misses the boat. They have continued to put in knurled guides, even on the new bronze guides according to Frank. All the failures I know of have been knurled guides. Heat may be a contributing factor, but it is not the cause of this problem, IMHO Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry McFarland To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 9:00 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Avery Tools --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bill Cardell > > Larry, > I'm sure there are. Just figure it's good insurance since the engine hasn't > been installed yet. Being an engine guy myself, it amazes me that a > manufacturer would install guides without shoulders in the first place. Of > course I haven't even picked up my half built kit yet, nor seen the engine > in the flesh. > > Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad) > bill@flyinmiata.com > Flyin' Miata Bill, I agree, that there are prudent things that can or should be done, like pulling the heads and adding the shouldered guides. Small price for security. I intend to carry the latest improvements into my Stratus and mounts too, but can't come to blame Mykal. I still believe the heat needs to be carried from the engine in a more efficient manner. The 601 doesn't do this well with the Zenith arrangement. I still choose the Stratus because I like water cooled engines much better even with all the concerns. Larry McFarland - 601 Experimental Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:54:24 PM PST US From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com Subject: Zenith-List: Aileron Bellcrank --> Zenith-List message posted by: Hi List, It's been a while since I posted. I took the summer off from building. Just too darn hot in the hanger 110+ all through July and August. Hottest summer on record in Phoenix....I must be getting old, cuz I just couldn't hack it this year. Anyway.....Can anyone tell me if the little half moon cut outs on the aileron bell cranks are really needed? I did something kind of dumb today. I safety wired the turnbuckles on the aileron control cables, looked down at my bellcranks and, DOH! I forgot to cut out the 1/2 moons that allow for additional movement on the ailerons. Any opinions would be appreicated. Thanks, Steve (90% done, still) Freeman PS Do the Arizona Cardinals suck or what? ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:09:05 PM PST US From: ZSMITH3rd@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Aileron Bellcrank --> Zenith-List message posted by: ZSMITH3rd@aol.com Yes, on the Cardinals. Ditto on the Dallas Cowgirls! Just to make this a legal post: Those who have not yet reserved an "N" number might like to visit the FAA at http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/acmain/htm You can check for your favorite "suffix" letters, etc. Zed Smith/701/R912/just cut the last un-cut piece in the kit! do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:26:02 PM PST US From: "Larry McFarland" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel sender and gage --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel sender and gage > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "H. Robert Schoenberger" > > If I get the fuel gage to read correctly when the arm with the modified ping pong ball at the end is moved up and down through air, will it read the same when immersed in fuel What have some of you used on the tightening screw where the float rod goes through the pin coming out of the rheostat? Hap, Yes, you should get the same position reading as with fuel. But don't try to equate water with fuel, because that doesn't work the same. I didn't do anything with the tightening screw. It should corrode itself solidly in place in time. A tank should always be accessible or removable for repairs such as these. Larry McFarland ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:55 PM PST US From: "Randall Stout" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Aileron Bellcrank --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Randall Stout" Well, I don't know if it's correct or not, but I didn't cut out mine either. The bellcrank is supposed to hit the rib. The rib acts as a stop. You don't want to cut it out until you get ready to setup the aileron travel. In fact, I had to add a piece of the plastic stuff so the bellcrank would hit the rib. This information only applies to HD's and maybe HDS's. Randy Stout - San Antonio TX CH601HD N282RS n282rs@sbcglobal.net http://www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21 ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Zenith-List: Aileron Bellcrank > --> Zenith-List message posted by: > > Hi List, > > It's been a while since I posted. I took the summer off from building. Just > too darn hot in the hanger 110+ all through July and August. Hottest summer > on record in Phoenix....I must be getting old, cuz I just couldn't hack it > this year. > > Anyway.....Can anyone tell me if the little half moon cut outs on the aileron > bell cranks are really needed? I did something kind of dumb today. I safety > wired the turnbuckles on the aileron control cables, looked down at my > bellcranks and, DOH! I forgot to cut out the 1/2 moons that allow for additional > movement on the ailerons. > > Any opinions would be appreicated. > > Thanks, > > Steve (90% done, still) Freeman > > PS Do the Arizona Cardinals suck or what?