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1. 04:44 AM - Empennage Attachment Bolts (Phil Raker)
2. 05:44 AM - Re: 601XL pedals & toe-brakes (Al Young)
3. 08:40 AM - Status Suburu (Tim & Diane Shankland)
4. 01:17 PM - Wing spar insert on the 601 XL (Bill Howerton)
5. 01:18 PM - 2003 List Fund Raiser - Please Support Your Lists... (Matt Dralle)
6. 01:29 PM - Re: Status Suburu (Bill Morelli)
7. 05:29 PM - N701XL Flies! (Dabusmith@aol.com)
8. 06:21 PM - Re: N701XL Flies! (Benford2@aol.com)
9. 06:27 PM - Re: N701XL Flies! (Randall Stout)
10. 06:28 PM - Re: N701XL Flies! (William Cribb)
11. 06:51 PM - Re: 701XL (ZSMITH3rd@aol.com)
12. 07:02 PM - Re: N701XL Flies! (Jon Croke)
13. 08:03 PM - Re: Wing spar insert on the 601 XL (Jack Russell)
14. 08:06 PM - Re: N701XL Flies! (Fred or Sandy Hulen)
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| Subject: | Empennage Attachment Bolts |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Phil Raker <phadr1@yahoo.com>
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
> > Several people on the list have posted concerns re the tail section being
> > held on by only four relatively small bolts
> Have you ever seen the four small bolts that hold on the entire wing of the
> C-150/2? ;-)
If you look at the numbers, those 1/4-28 bolts will each pick up a small car!
I believe every Zenith A/C ever built weighs much less than any 4 cars. I'm
confident that it will all stay together, especially if the Gs are kept
reasonable and positive.
Phil Raker N556P; HDS/Stratus, cooling system connected, brakes next
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL pedals & toe-brakes |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Al Young" <armyret@one-eleven.net>
Just went thru the same problem with my pedals. Finally took them to a
local welder and had him use a pipe of the same diameter as the rudder pedal
and a heavy vise to clamp the hinges in and go to it with a big hammer. he
was successful without using any heat. Al Young 601XL
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Tim & Diane Shankland <tshank@megsinet.net>
For those of you who are using the Status engine. The instructions say
that the exciter lead from the alternator should be connected in
parallel with the starter solenoid. I am assuming that means to the
start lead going to the starter. My reason for concern is that the
schematic included does not show this lead at all.
Tim Shankland
(wiring up the engine)
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| Subject: | Wing spar insert on the 601 XL |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Howerton" <Bill@Howerton.com>
I'm currently working with the wing jig on the XL, and I've come across a
confusing point in the instructions. I cannot figure out what the correct
placement of the extrusion on the spar insert. I've looked at numerous
pictures, as well as consulting the plans but I simply cannot figure it out.
Is the extrusion flush with the edge of the spar insert as some pictures
would indicate, or it it back aways? And if it is moved back away, how far
back?
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| Subject: | 2003 List Fund Raiser - Please Support Your Lists... |
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| Subject: | Re: Status Suburu |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bill Morelli <billvt@together.net>
Tim,
On my alt, I had a lead labeled IG which I connected to the starter
solenoid. There was also an L lead that went to the negative side of the
light (LED) and a + lead that went back to the battery (charge path).
Regards,
Bill
>For those of you who are using the Status engine. The instructions say
>that the exciter lead from the alternator should be connected in
>parallel with the starter solenoid. I am assuming that means to the
>start lead going to the starter. My reason for concern is that the
>schematic included does not show this lead at all.
>
>Tim Shankland
>(wiring up the engine)
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Dabusmith@aol.com
November 1, 2003, @ 0720 N701XL S/N 7-4618 took to the air at Pierce Co.
airport
Puyallop, WA.
The first flight was more of a thrill than my first solo! It climbed out at
5300 rpm 1100 fpm at 50 mph I think! :-) Quite an angle from inside. The
electric trim is very sensitive. The stick pressure is very light even when out
of
trim. Mine flies slightly left wing heavy. I am not going to fix it until I
fly off my time and try it with a passenger. It might be just right with two.
I don't know the stall speed yet. I have stalled it many times. I must be
doing something wrong. I gently climb with the ball centered after pulling power.
Even with the stick all the way back it feels completely in control. The
airspeed has quickly dropped to zero. The altimeter is unraveling. It stays that
way until I tip the nose forward, at that point it is like turning on a switch.
Everything is back flying again. I am unable to find a specific speed. I am
sure with time I'll be able to pick out the stall speed. Any one know the
secret?
My son and I flew down to Lebanon, OR. Yesterday to fly Ben Masengil's 701
with the 912S. I flew mine just like his. 55 mph downwind and 45 mph on final.
It worked great. Thanks Ben! Also, thanks to the list for all your help. My
son and I are planning to fly N701XL to Sun-n-fun in April. Check out the
picture at
<A HREF="http://www.eaa.org/homebuilders/list/Zenith%20STOL%20CH%20701_Smith.asp#TopOfPage">
http://www.eaa.org/homebuilders/list/Zenith%20STOL%20CH%20701_Smith.asp#TopOfPage
All the best
Dave Smith
701SP 912S
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| Subject: | Re: N701XL Flies! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
In a message dated 11/1/2003 6:30:07 PM Mountain Standard Time,
Dabusmith@aol.com writes:
>
> The first flight was more of a thrill than my first solo! It climbed out at
> 5300 rpm 1100 fpm at 50 mph I think
Nice job.!!!!! Ben Haas N801BH.
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| Subject: | Re: N701XL Flies! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Randall Stout" <n282rs@sbcglobal.net>
Dave
Congratulations on the first flight!
I've done a couple of stalls in my Zodiac with similar results. At about 40
mph, I can no longer hold my altitude, so I would call that my stall speed.
It doesn't drop the nose. I haven't tried a power on stall yet.
Good luck with your flight testing
Randy Stout - San Antonio TX
CH601HD N282RS
n282rs@sbcglobal.net
http://www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21
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> I don't know the stall speed yet. I have stalled it many times. I must be
> doing something wrong. I gently climb with the ball centered after pulling
power.
> Even with the stick all the way back it feels completely in control. The
> airspeed has quickly dropped to zero. The altimeter is unraveling. It
stays that
> way until I tip the nose forward, at that point it is like turning on a
switch.
> Everything is back flying again. I am unable to find a specific speed. I
am
> sure with time I'll be able to pick out the stall speed. Any one know the
> secret?
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| Subject: | Re: N701XL Flies! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "William Cribb" <wscribb@centurytel.net>
Dave ,
Congratulations!!! Please keep us informed as you progress through the test
phase.
Bill Cribb
601XL from Scratch
N601WC (reserved)
Vaughn, WA
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Dabusmith@aol.com
>
>
> November 1, 2003, @ 0720 N701XL S/N 7-4618 took to the air at Pierce Co.
> airport
> Puyallop, WA.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: ZSMITH3rd@aol.com
I think what all of us who are getting closer really want to know is about
LANDING.
When you get the grin off your face, let us know about pulling power off for
downwind, base, and final. Airspeed, drag, suprises, attitude, flappers,
pucker, etc.
We'd all like to know....especially about the pucker factor.
Thanks, and congrats!!
Zed Smith/701/R912/gettin' there
Do Not Archive, as someone previously stated, this drivel.
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| Subject: | Re: N701XL Flies! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
> The first flight was more of a thrill than my first solo! It climbed out
at
> 5300 rpm 1100 fpm at 50 mph I think! :-) Quite an angle from inside. The
> electric trim is very sensitive. The stick pressure is very light even
when out of
> trim. Mine flies slightly left wing heavy.
Dave,
WAY to GO!
I remember the feeling as well. Few things in life beat it! Glad all went
well and you'll have many enjoyable hours ahead of you.
You can easily fix that heavy left wing... simply bend the trailing edge of
your right aelerons down just a bit with your fingers... you'll be surprised
how hands off it'll fly. (Dont wait for passenger).
Check those carb springs and I'll see you at Sun n Fun!
Jon
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| Subject: | Re: Wing spar insert on the 601 XL |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jack Russell <clojan@sbcglobal.net>
Bill Howerton <Bill@Howerton.com> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Howerton"
I've looked at numerous
pictures, as well as consulting the plans but I simply cannot figure it out.
Is the extrusion flush with the edge of the spar insert as some pictures
would indicate, or it it back aways? And if it is moved back away, how far
back?
Bill: I found that the smaller rear spar extrusion in the jig will determine how
far the main spar extrusion will slide into the center spar. If everything is
square just butt the jig up to the side skin at the rear spar. By the way, I
drilled the jig for one of the holes in the center spar but I think a clamp would
have held it just fine.
Jack Russell Clovis, Ca
XL Just about ready to hang a Jabiru.
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| Subject: | Re: N701XL Flies! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Fred or Sandy Hulen" <hulens61@birch.net>
The "First Flight Experience" is absolutely amazing, isn't it !
Congratulations, here's to many smooth and happy flights!
Fred Hulen
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