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1. 07:03 AM - First flight, 701 (Ronnie Koonce)
2. 07:06 AM - Re: First flight, 701 (Benford2@aol.com)
3. 07:37 AM - Re: First flight, 701 (Fred or Sandy Hulen)
4. 08:19 AM - 801: Assembling Firewall, Custom Engine Mount Fabrication (Scott and Valeree Stout)
5. 01:33 PM - Re: 801: Assembling Firewall, Custom Engine Mount Fabrication (Rich)
6. 04:57 PM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 11/08/03 (RiteAngle3@aol.com)
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| Subject: | First flight, 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ronnie Koonce" <rlk@granderiver.net>
My 701 was signed off and had first flight last Tuesday. Adround 1300 hrs. build
time (I'm slow). 912 uls, warp drive, Czech bubble doors.
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| Subject: | Re: First flight, 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
In a message dated 11/9/2003 8:04:07 AM Mountain Standard Time,
rlk@granderiver.net writes:
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> My 701 was signed off and had first flight last Tuesday. Adround 1300 hrs.
> build time (I'm slow). 912 uls, warp drive, Czech bubble doors.
>
>
Congrats. How does she fly????
Ben Haas.N801BH. do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: First flight, 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Fred or Sandy Hulen" <hulens61@birch.net>
> My 701 was signed off and had first flight last Tuesday.
TERRIFIC !!!!!!!!
Sincere Congratulations on this momentous occasion.
Fred Hulen
do not archive
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| Subject: | 801: Assembling Firewall, Custom Engine Mount Fabrication |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Scott and Valeree Stout <the_stouts@worldnet.att.net>
Good Morning...
When assembling the 801's firewall the manual(
http://www.zenithair.com/stolch801/data/new/801forward-fuselage-section2.pdf
) cover page refers to using AS5 or A5 rivets. However, subsequent
pages only refer to AS5 rivets. What have folks been using, the
stainless steel rivets or plain A5's?
Also, for those who have built their own engine mounts, how did you
distribute the weight among the 4 firewall bolts? Did you use the
possible top fifth center mount location as part of the system of load
bearing or just for stabilizing? Any discussion is appreciated as I
have used only 2 dimensional equations( as provided on the ACRE web site
) to figure loading on a single tube/mount point (
http://home.earthlink.net/~rotaryeng/tubeload.gif ).
For my rotary engine, not matter how I figure it( normal upright or
plugs-up ) the "bed" of the engine mount is below the 2 top bolt holes
by 2 inches or so. Thus, a majority of the ( 320 or so pounds of weight
) will be distributed through the bottom 2 bolt holes. Most likely not
an issue as the Franklin engine mount seems to be of a similar design.
Are there other engine mount design issues I am not considering?
Thank You.
-Scott
http://home.att.net/~the_stouts_zenith_801
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| Subject: | Re: 801: Assembling Firewall, Custom Engine Mount Fabrication |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rich" <rbauer@intergate.com>
I used the AS5 rivets. MUCH stronger than the A5. I had to buy a compressor
to squeeze it. My dad's homemade compressor only went to about 75 psi &
could only handle up to the A5.
I would definitely use the top center engine mount bolts. The firewall
assemble isn't strong enough without distributing some of the engine weight
to the welded cabin frame. It wouldn't be there if it wasn't necessary.
Rich
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott and Valeree Stout" <the_stouts@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: 801: Assembling Firewall, Custom Engine Mount
Fabrication
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Scott and Valeree Stout
<the_stouts@worldnet.att.net>
>
> Good Morning...
>
> When assembling the 801's firewall the manual(
>
http://www.zenithair.com/stolch801/data/new/801forward-fuselage-section2.pdf
> ) cover page refers to using AS5 or A5 rivets. However, subsequent
> pages only refer to AS5 rivets. What have folks been using, the
> stainless steel rivets or plain A5's?
>
> Also, for those who have built their own engine mounts, how did you
> distribute the weight among the 4 firewall bolts? Did you use the
> possible top fifth center mount location as part of the system of load
> bearing or just for stabilizing? Any discussion is appreciated as I
> have used only 2 dimensional equations( as provided on the ACRE web site
> ) to figure loading on a single tube/mount point (
> http://home.earthlink.net/~rotaryeng/tubeload.gif ).
>
> For my rotary engine, not matter how I figure it( normal upright or
> plugs-up ) the "bed" of the engine mount is below the 2 top bolt holes
> by 2 inches or so. Thus, a majority of the ( 320 or so pounds of weight
> ) will be distributed through the bottom 2 bolt holes. Most likely not
> an issue as the Franklin engine mount seems to be of a similar design.
> Are there other engine mount design issues I am not considering?
>
> Thank You.
>
> -Scott
>
> http://home.att.net/~the_stouts_zenith_801
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 11/08/03 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: RiteAngle3@aol.com
In a message dated 11/9/03 12:02:54 AM Pacific Standard Time,
zenith-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
Roger J. Roy
CH-701/912S
Is this the Roger Roy that was an AirCal pilot prior to AA buying us in '87?
Elbie Mendenhall
EM aviation
retired AA
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