---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 11/09/03: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:03 AM - First flight, 701 (Ronnie Koonce) 2. 07:06 AM - Re: First flight, 701 (Benford2@aol.com) 3. 07:37 AM - Re: First flight, 701 (Fred or Sandy Hulen) 4. 08:19 AM - 801: Assembling Firewall, Custom Engine Mount Fabrication (Scott and Valeree Stout) 5. 01:33 PM - Re: 801: Assembling Firewall, Custom Engine Mount Fabrication (Rich) 6. 04:57 PM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 11/08/03 (RiteAngle3@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:20 AM PST US From: "Ronnie Koonce" Subject: Zenith-List: First flight, 701 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ronnie Koonce" My 701 was signed off and had first flight last Tuesday. Adround 1300 hrs. build time (I'm slow). 912 uls, warp drive, Czech bubble doors. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:45 AM PST US From: Benford2@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: First flight, 701 --> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com In a message dated 11/9/2003 8:04:07 AM Mountain Standard Time, rlk@granderiver.net writes: > > My 701 was signed off and had first flight last Tuesday. Adround 1300 hrs. > build time (I'm slow). 912 uls, warp drive, Czech bubble doors. > > Congrats. How does she fly???? Ben Haas.N801BH. do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:37:43 AM PST US From: "Fred or Sandy Hulen" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: First flight, 701 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Fred or Sandy Hulen" > My 701 was signed off and had first flight last Tuesday. TERRIFIC !!!!!!!! Sincere Congratulations on this momentous occasion. Fred Hulen do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:19:25 AM PST US From: Scott and Valeree Stout Subject: Zenith-List: 801: Assembling Firewall, Custom Engine Mount Fabrication --> Zenith-List message posted by: Scott and Valeree Stout Good Morning... When assembling the 801's firewall the manual( http://www.zenithair.com/stolch801/data/new/801forward-fuselage-section2.pdf ) cover page refers to using AS5 or A5 rivets. However, subsequent pages only refer to AS5 rivets. What have folks been using, the stainless steel rivets or plain A5's? Also, for those who have built their own engine mounts, how did you distribute the weight among the 4 firewall bolts? Did you use the possible top fifth center mount location as part of the system of load bearing or just for stabilizing? Any discussion is appreciated as I have used only 2 dimensional equations( as provided on the ACRE web site ) to figure loading on a single tube/mount point ( http://home.earthlink.net/~rotaryeng/tubeload.gif ). For my rotary engine, not matter how I figure it( normal upright or plugs-up ) the "bed" of the engine mount is below the 2 top bolt holes by 2 inches or so. Thus, a majority of the ( 320 or so pounds of weight ) will be distributed through the bottom 2 bolt holes. Most likely not an issue as the Franklin engine mount seems to be of a similar design. Are there other engine mount design issues I am not considering? Thank You. -Scott http://home.att.net/~the_stouts_zenith_801 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:33:40 PM PST US From: "Rich" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 801: Assembling Firewall, Custom Engine Mount Fabrication --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rich" I used the AS5 rivets. MUCH stronger than the A5. I had to buy a compressor to squeeze it. My dad's homemade compressor only went to about 75 psi & could only handle up to the A5. I would definitely use the top center engine mount bolts. The firewall assemble isn't strong enough without distributing some of the engine weight to the welded cabin frame. It wouldn't be there if it wasn't necessary. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott and Valeree Stout" Subject: Zenith-List: 801: Assembling Firewall, Custom Engine Mount Fabrication > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Scott and Valeree Stout > > Good Morning... > > When assembling the 801's firewall the manual( > http://www.zenithair.com/stolch801/data/new/801forward-fuselage-section2.pdf > ) cover page refers to using AS5 or A5 rivets. However, subsequent > pages only refer to AS5 rivets. What have folks been using, the > stainless steel rivets or plain A5's? > > Also, for those who have built their own engine mounts, how did you > distribute the weight among the 4 firewall bolts? Did you use the > possible top fifth center mount location as part of the system of load > bearing or just for stabilizing? Any discussion is appreciated as I > have used only 2 dimensional equations( as provided on the ACRE web site > ) to figure loading on a single tube/mount point ( > http://home.earthlink.net/~rotaryeng/tubeload.gif ). > > For my rotary engine, not matter how I figure it( normal upright or > plugs-up ) the "bed" of the engine mount is below the 2 top bolt holes > by 2 inches or so. Thus, a majority of the ( 320 or so pounds of weight > ) will be distributed through the bottom 2 bolt holes. Most likely not > an issue as the Franklin engine mount seems to be of a similar design. > Are there other engine mount design issues I am not considering? > > Thank You. > > -Scott > > http://home.att.net/~the_stouts_zenith_801 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:57:47 PM PST US From: RiteAngle3@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 11/08/03 --> Zenith-List message posted by: RiteAngle3@aol.com In a message dated 11/9/03 12:02:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, zenith-list-digest@matronics.com writes: Roger J. Roy CH-701/912S Is this the Roger Roy that was an AirCal pilot prior to AA buying us in '87? Elbie Mendenhall EM aviation retired AA