---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 11/30/03: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:28 PM - Last "Official" Day To Make Your List Contribution!! (Matt Dralle) 2. 01:12 PM - Re: Last "Official" Day To Make Your List Contribution!! (Leo Gates) 3. 01:31 PM - [ Paul Petty ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares) 4. 06:07 PM - Re: aileron gap covers (Bob Miller) 5. 06:08 PM - Re: aileron hinge conversion 601HD (Bob Miller) 6. 06:10 PM - Re: aileron hinge conversion 601HD (Bob Miller) 7. 06:42 PM - Re: aileron hinge conversion 601HD (Scott Laughlin) 8. 11:57 PM - Re: First Flight (Frank Stutzman) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:28:58 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Zenith-List: Last "Official" Day To Make Your List Contribution!! --> Zenith-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Listers, Well, its November 30th and that means three things... 1) Today I am officially 40 years old (sympathy is appreciated)! 2) It marks that last "official" day of the List Fund Raiser! 3) Its the last day I will be bugging everyone for a whole year! :-) If you use the Lists and enjoy the content and the no-advertising, no-spam, and no-censorship way in which they're run, please make a Contribution today to support their continued operation and upkeep. Your $20 or $30 goes a long way to further the List operation and keep the bills paid. A Lister wrote a funny message in the comments field of his Contribution today that I thought summed up the whole situation: "Worth every penny and I'm a tightwad!" Thank you to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this year! It is greatly appreciated. Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:12:26 PM PST US From: Leo Gates Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Last "Official" Day To Make Your List Contribution!! --> Zenith-List message posted by: Leo Gates Matt Dralle wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: Matt Dralle > > >Dear Listers, > >Well, its November 30th and that means three things... > > 1) Today I am officially 40 years old (sympathy is appreciated)! > > > No sympathy, today I am 69 and envy you - sort of. Leo Gates ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:31:48 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: [ Paul Petty ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! From: Email List Photo Shares --> Zenith-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Paul Petty Subject: Stainless steel exhaust for 601/912UL combo. http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/ppetty@c-gate.net.1.11.30.2003/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:10 PM PST US From: "Bob Miller" Subject: Zenith-List: re: aileron gap covers --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" Gary, Maybe the weather stripping is similar to the 3-M leading edge material? I wonder how it could be applied so that 1) there's no chance of it being forced up into the gap and causing problems, and 2) it allows for movement of the ailerons without a fold of loose material flapping when in level flight? Apparently the RV's have a gap cover. Anybody know how they do it? Seems like it ought to improve performance significantly. Bob - ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:08:34 PM PST US From: "Bob Miller" Subject: Zenith-List: RE: aileron hinge conversion 601HD --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" Wayne, Yes I'd be very interested in what you have planned. Don't want to ask you to send drawings from Oz, but could you explain a little about how you plan to do it? What did Zenith say about it? Bob ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:29 PM PST US From: "Bob Miller" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: aileron hinge conversion 601HD --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" Scott, Thanks. I found his page, but when I click on the links to the photos it only brings up a "page cannot be found" message. Maybe he took them off? Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Laughlin" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: aileron hinge conversion 601HD > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" > > Bob: > > Ray Montagne has done this and has an interesting page on his website that > explains what he had to do to make it work. The link is: > > http://home.earthlink.net/~ac6qj/zodiac/aileronhinge.htm > > Good luck. > > Scott Laughlin > www.cooknwithgas.com > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Bob Miller" > To: > Subject: Zenith-List: aileron hinge conversion 601HD > Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:47:54 -0500 > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" > > > Listers, > If anyone has converted from a hingeless to hinged aileron, using the > original skin and rivet holes on the aileron and/or wing, I would love to > hear about it. My wings and ailerons are covered and set up for hingeless, > but I want to change to hinged if it can be done without major modification. > Thanks, > Bob Miller > > > Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home entertainment equipment, > video game reviews, and more here. > http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:42:10 PM PST US From: "Scott Laughlin" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: aileron hinge conversion 601HD --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" Bob: Keep trying. Ray emailed me recently and said he fixed the problem. Scott. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Bob Miller" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: aileron hinge conversion 601HD --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" Scott, Thanks. I found his page, but when I click on the links to the photos it only brings up a "page cannot be found" message. Maybe he took them off? Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Laughlin" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: aileron hinge conversion 601HD > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" > > Bob: > > Ray Montagne has done this and has an interesting page on his website that > explains what he had to do to make it work. The link is: > > http://home.earthlink.net/~ac6qj/zodiac/aileronhinge.htm > > Good luck. > > Scott Laughlin > www.cooknwithgas.com > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Bob Miller" > To: > Subject: Zenith-List: aileron hinge conversion 601HD > Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 07:47:54 -0500 > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" > > > Listers, > If anyone has converted from a hingeless to hinged aileron, using the > original skin and rivet holes on the aileron and/or wing, I would love to > hear about it. My wings and ailerons are covered and set up for hingeless, > but I want to change to hinged if it can be done without major modification. > Thanks, > Bob Miller > > > Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home entertainment equipment, > video game reviews, and more here. > http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx > > Groove on the latest from the hot new rock groups! Get downloads, videos, and more here. http://special.msn.com/entertainment/wiredformusic.armx ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:57:46 PM PST US From: Frank Stutzman Subject: Re: Zenith-List: First Flight --> Zenith-List message posted by: Frank Stutzman > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "bruce thomas" > > Well I,ve done it. After 12 months enjoyable work, it flies. > CH701- 912S. Kit > Everything by the book! rotate 30 Kts, climb 50 Kts at 800 fpm > and cruise 75 Kts at 5000 rpm Is this typical for a CH701 with a 912S? According to Zeniths web site (www.zenithair.com/stolch701/7-perf.html), single seat performance with the 80 hp 912 should yield a 1600 FPM climb. I realize this wouldn't be the first time a designer inflated some performance numbers, but this seems a bit extreme as the 912S should have an extra 20 hp to work with. I realize that Bruce's first take offs may be at something less than Vy (or even Vx), but I am wondering if typical "in the field" performance of a 701 matchs what Zenith publishes for stall speed, rate of climb and take-off roll Frank Stutzman Hopefully a 701 builder when a few more projects get finished. Hood River, OR