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1. 08:39 AM - Grant C - e-mail (Phil Raker)
2. 09:51 AM - HVLP vs Standard Spray Guns (martin nackman)
3. 10:00 AM - Stratus prop drive (Brett Ray)
4. 12:46 PM - Re: HVLP vs Standard Spray Guns (Ron DeWees)
5. 01:27 PM - Re: prop/engine RPM (RiteAngle3@aol.com)
6. 02:06 PM - Re: Stratus prop drive (k.jones)
7. 03:45 PM - Re: HVLP spray gun (Dabusmith@aol.com)
8. 08:43 PM - Re: Stratus prop drive (Thomas F Marson)
9. 09:02 PM - Re: Stratus prop drive (Brett Ray)
10. 09:56 PM - I'm signed up! (Kevin W Bonds)
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| Subject: | Grant C - e-mail |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Phil Raker <phadr1@yahoo.com>
Is Grant Corriveau still on this list? If not, can someone please send me his
current e-mail address (off list). I tried to send him something, but it came
back as address unknown (must have been an old one).
Thanx muchly.
Phil Raker N556P - HDS/ Stratus ~80% complete
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http://photos.yahoo.com/
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| Subject: | HVLP vs Standard Spray Guns |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "martin nackman" <mnackzzz@hotmail.com>
I am getting a 33gal compressor and I intend to use it to do (among other
things) the
painting of the airframe. I have read a bit about the High Volume Low
Pressure painting
units but they are not in the budget. My question is on the spray gun. Is
there a difference
in the gun that is attached to a HVLP vs a standard air compressor? Again
I'll have a standard
air compressor but most shops offer HVLP spray guns. Can I use a HVLP spray
gun with my
standard air compressor and get the same benifits of less overspray? Or
should I get a regular spray gun because at a given air pressure a standard
aircompressor isn't putting out a sufficient Volume of air?
Thanks,
Martin
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| Subject: | Stratus prop drive |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brett Ray" <brett@hog-air.com>
Does anyone out there need a Stratus prop drive cheap? With starter
and 2 new belts. Let me know.
-- Thanks
Brett Ray
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| Subject: | Re: HVLP vs Standard Spray Guns |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ron DeWees" <rdewees@mindspring.com>
Hi Martin,
Have you heard of a tool company called Harbor Freight? Most tools are
imported and about 1/2 or less the cost of "regular" tools. They sell HVLP
spray guns from $35 or $40 bucks and had a whole compressor and gun for $99
at the local store here in Atlanta yesterday. They are at
harborfreight.com on the net. The HVLP will at least lower the amount of
paint you need and keep the air a bit safer in the paint booth.
Good luck
Ron DeWees
601HDS/Jab 3300 in progress.
----- Original Message -----
From: "martin nackman" <mnackzzz@hotmail.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: HVLP vs Standard Spray Guns
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "martin nackman" <mnackzzz@hotmail.com>
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> I am getting a 33gal compressor and I intend to use it to do (among other
> things) the
> painting of the airframe. I have read a bit about the High Volume Low
> Pressure painting
> units but they are not in the budget. My question is on the spray gun. Is
> there a difference
> in the gun that is attached to a HVLP vs a standard air compressor? Again
> I'll have a standard
> air compressor but most shops offer HVLP spray guns. Can I use a HVLP
spray
> gun with my
> standard air compressor and get the same benifits of less overspray? Or
> should I get a regular spray gun because at a given air pressure a
standard
> aircompressor isn't putting out a sufficient Volume of air?
> Thanks,
> Martin
>
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| Subject: | Re: prop/engine RPM |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: RiteAngle3@aol.com
In a message dated 12/14/03 12:00:35 AM Pacific Standard Time,
zenith-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
Pardon the question... but dumbness is in staying ignorant, not in asking:
Most direct drive engines run around 3300-3500 rpm max, and 3000 rpm
continuous. But most of the propellers are rated 2700 rpm max.
>>>>The old CFI in me says no dumb questions :-)
Direct drive engines specifically designed for aircraft normally turn much
slower, either by reduction or design.
It is the same old thing, give and take, give the rpm take the power, lower
rpm they couldn't brag on the output!
I would NEVER go over max RPM on a prop, and I never plan on going over
max rpm on an engine either. Lots of parts jumping up and down in an engine,
and they were made for a max RPM.
I feel the engineers are much smarter than I am, and I've lived over 24000
hours flying and plan on a few more :-)
Tip speed is one reason for the prop speed limits, figure the diameter of a
prop, take the RPM and figure the tip speed This is the main reason for 3
bladed props on the larger engines, not performance it is Noise tips approaching
the speed of sound make a terrible racket listen to a large seaplane someday ~
Cessna 185, and so on. It also puts lots of stress on the tips. Write the
prop manf. and see what they say.
Elbie
EM aviation
www.riteangle.com
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| Subject: | Re: Stratus prop drive |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "k.jones" <kevin-jones@snet.net>
What is a stratus prop drive? I'm going to need a lot of things cheap
when I get going.
kj
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brett Ray" <brett@hog-air.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Stratus prop drive
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brett Ray" <brett@hog-air.com>
>
> Does anyone out there need a Stratus prop drive cheap? With starter
> and 2 new belts. Let me know.
> -- Thanks
> Brett Ray
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: HVLP spray gun |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Dabusmith@aol.com
>My question is on the spray gun. Is there a difference
in the gun that is attached to a HVLP vs a standard air compressor
Martin
I was surprised to find my $19.95 1 Qt. HVLP spray gun worked so well. I have
a compressor like the one you describe. I built my plane using air tools. My
poor compressor worked very hard but it is still working fine.The gun is the
kind with the cup on the top. The gun on top uses less paint and is easier to
clean but the type with the cup on the bottom is fine too. It is important that
you have a regulator (diaphragm type, $30 from paint store if you gun doesn't
have one, mine didn't) and a water separator. The water separator has to be
about 10 feet from the compressor so that the water vapor can condense and be
collected in the separator. I have heard many people say you must have the big
name spray guns to put on a nice paint job. It is not true for an amateur. It
is more important to prep the surface, set up the gun's spray pattern properly
and use decent technique. If you can organize your paint job so that you are
mostly painting on a horizontal surface, I am sure you will like the end
result. That is, of course, if you can't afford a professional paint job.
Dave Smith
N701XL
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Stratus prop drive |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thomas F Marson" <tmarson@pressenter.com>
A Stratus drive is used to reduce prop speed with a Subaru engine. Unless
you plan to use a Subaru engine I would not recommend you follow up. Tom
Marson
----- Original Message -----
From: "k.jones" <kevin-jones@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Stratus prop drive
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "k.jones" <kevin-jones@snet.net>
>
> What is a stratus prop drive? I'm going to need a lot of things cheap
> when I get going.
> kj
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brett Ray" <brett@hog-air.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Zenith-List: Stratus prop drive
>
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brett Ray" <brett@hog-air.com>
> >
> > Does anyone out there need a Stratus prop drive cheap? With starter
> > and 2 new belts. Let me know.
> > -- Thanks
> > Brett Ray
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stratus prop drive |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brett Ray" <brett@hog-air.com>
Good point.
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thomas F Marson"
<tmarson@pressenter.com>
>
> A Stratus drive is used to reduce prop speed with a Subaru engine.
Unless
> you plan to use a Subaru engine I would not recommend you follow
up. Tom
> Marson
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "k.jones" <kevin-jones@snet.net>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Stratus prop drive
>
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "k.jones" <kevin-jones@snet.net>
> >
> > What is a stratus prop drive? I'm going to need a lot of
things cheap
> > when I get going.
> > kj
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brett Ray" <brett@hog-air.com>
> > To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Zenith-List: Stratus prop drive
> >
> >
> > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brett Ray" <brett@hog-
air.com>
> > >
> > > Does anyone out there need a Stratus prop drive cheap? With
starter
> > > and 2 new belts. Let me know.
> > > -- Thanks
> > > Brett Ray
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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-- Thanks
Brett Ray
owner Hog Air
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Kevin W Bonds" <kbonds@worldshare.net>
Hello All
I know this will not be exciting to anyone else but, I'M SIGHNED UP! I'M GOING
TO ATTEND THE WORKSHOP JANUARY 29-30! I CANT WAIT!
Wheeeuuu! . . . .That felt good. Hopfully one day I cant get exited about actually
owning my own plane . . . that I built . . . with my own two hands! But,
till then baby steps and small victories! Here's to em'!
Kevin Bonds
Nashville Tn
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