Zenith-List Digest Archive

Mon 01/12/04


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 08:14 AM - Re: Aeroflash Strobes - Position Lights (HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1))
     2. 09:09 AM - Re: Rotax 912UL CHT's (rbauer@INTERGATE.COM)
     3. 10:57 AM - Engine Monitoring  (Trampas)
     4. 11:11 AM - Not zenith related, but.... (Bill Cardell)
     5. 11:32 AM - Re: Engine Monitoring (Scott Laughlin)
     6. 02:12 PM - Re: Engine Monitoring  (Larry McFarland)
     7. 04:14 PM - Re: monitoring the engine (ZSMITH3rd@aol.com)
     8. 07:23 PM - Bending Brake (Kevin W Bonds)
     9. 09:23 PM - Bending brake question (Kevin W Bonds)
    10. 09:46 PM - Re: Bending brake question (Steelframe AUS)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:14:00 AM PST US
    From: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
    Subject: Aeroflash Strobes - Position Lights
    I have replaced my capacitors a couple of times over the 4.5 years of flying. Mostly dues to long periods of downtime (otherwise known as "working on the house rather than flying"). --> Zenith-List message posted by: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" <frank.hinde@hp.com> The capacitors are about $10 from any electrical components supply place...Just take the old cap out and read whats on the side...I think its 450v at 0.5 micro farad. But its been a while since I replaced one so don't quote me on that. But it's a 20 min job to replace the cap. Much better than $50 a pop! FRank -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Tauch Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Aeroflash Strobes - Position Lights --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Eric Tauch" <erictauch@comcast.net> I dont see what would be special about their cap, unless it has something to do with vibration (ruggedized). I guess it could also be a special form factor (ie large uF value, high voltage, small form factor). Caps are also rated by ESR which specifies their performance over frequency (how much R is in series with the model of perfect capacitance). This has more to do with high frequency applications and wouldnt affect anything here, except perhaps the discharge time (insignificantly). I think if I could find a suitable size with like voltage rating, I would atleast give it a try. From what I understand the powersupplies are at the wingtips where you shouldnt have much engine vibration anyway. The temp is something to look at too, as there is a large heatsink on the pictures I have seen. Too little too late, but info for others with the same trouble. Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Ferris" <ferret@wmtel.net> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Aeroflash Strobes - Position Lights > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Greg Ferris" <ferret@wmtel.net> > > I got a good laugh out of the comments below. I never had any > warning regarding as was mentioned. Last Wednesday, I felt like > feeding my power supply to Aeroflash. When I opened-up the power > supply, I removed the capacitor. The capacitor is a proprietary part > for Aeroflash from United Chemie-con. They will not sell one. > Aeroflash also refuses to sell a capacitor. The explanation I got was > that their insurance forbids them from > doing so. She told me that she wouldn't want me to have to bear the > responsibility of installing a new capacitor. After some loud > involuntary laughter, I told her that I built the hole plane so this > risk is something I > could deal with quite well. In the end, all I could do was to either > buy a > new or re-conditioned unit. I chose the recon unit for $47. I could > have installed a different capacitor from another manufacturer, but I > couldn't get any information on what was special about Areoflashes > capacitor from United, so I played it conservative. > > After being what I would call thoroughly screwed, you might think they would > make a real effort to get it to me ASAP right? I ordered the part > Wed. at ~8AM. I'm in Iowa, one shipping day away from Aeroflash and I > don't have the part yet. > > Greg > > > > It has been added since I got my 801 kit in 2-2001. I can assure you that > I > > will take those precautions but if they fail soon after, I WILL fly > > to the > > Aeroflash factory and feed it to someone if they say I should have > > known > there > > was a defect in their unit...Ben Haas N801BH. > > advertising on the Matronics Forums.


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    Time: 09:09:47 AM PST US
    From: rbauer@INTERGATE.COM
    Subject: Re: Rotax 912UL CHT's
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: rbauer@intergate.com Ben, Still using the Lyc. The Rotax is for a friend's 701 I'm helping with. Rich do not archive Quoting Benford2@aol.com: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com > > In a message dated 1/10/2004 1:58:21 PM Mountain Standard Time, > rbauer@INTERGATE.COM writes: > > > > > > So getting the Grand Rapids EIS 4000 is the wrong choice,...the 3rd & 4th > > CHT will not be used? > > Should I just get the EIS 2004? > > > > Rich > > > > Rich. I thought you were going with a LYC :?????? > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------


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    Time: 10:57:44 AM PST US
    From: "Trampas" <tstern@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Engine Monitoring
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Trampas" <tstern@nc.rr.com> My father in law started building a 601 last year and he was looking at engine monitors and we decided to build a better engine monitor than was on the market with color display and user defined configurations. One of the key reasons for building a new monitor was he had problems reading the text of units which were currently on the market. We have been working on this monitoring system for the last year and have several units working. However, I have run into a problem which I thought you guys may be able to help me with. The problem I have is that in an attempt to make the unit as flexible as possible I think I may have made it too complicated. Thus I was wondering what people wanted in an engine monitor. For example the unit which I have completed has 16 thermocouple inputs, two coil inputs, and 15 generic inputs which can be configured to work with almost any sensor. The problem is that the configuration is not trivial. That is the configuration requires the user to know how sensors operate and their calibration curves. It almost requires an engineering background to understand. Therefore I was wondering how many people would want to configure there own sensors verses how many would just purchase the sensors recommended? I am planning on starting to sell these units, hopefully for a profit, but I am worried the support for the configuration would be high. For example the configuration setup is currently beyond my father in law's abilities, but he is not high tech type of person either. I also was wondering how many people would want to monitor other things besides the engine with the same box. For example how many people would want air speed, density altitude, and angle of attack, etc. Currently we were not planning on implementing these features ourselves, but through the configuration the user if they wanted could add these features and others themselves. Thanks Trampas www.sterntech.com


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    Time: 11:11:58 AM PST US
    From: Bill Cardell <bill@flyinmiata.com>
    Subject: Not zenith related, but....
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bill Cardell <bill@flyinmiata.com> Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad) bill@flyinmiata.com Flyin' Miata 1-800-359-6957 (sales only) 970-242-3800 (tech support) http://flyinmiata.com http://flyinprotege.com http://members.aol.com/coupechuck/index.htm For any of us that might be feeling a little too proud of ourselves for riveting a plane together, check this out. Absolutely amazing.


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    Time: 11:32:21 AM PST US
    From: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Engine Monitoring
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com> Huh? ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Trampas" <tstern@nc.rr.com> Subject: Zenith-List: Engine Monitoring --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Trampas" <tstern@nc.rr.com> My father in law started building a 601 last year and he was looking at engine monitors and we decided to build a better engine monitor than was on the market with color display and user defined configurations. One of the key reasons for building a new monitor was he had problems reading the text of units which were currently on the market. We have been working on this monitoring system for the last year and have several units working. However, I have run into a problem which I thought you guys may be able to help me with. The problem I have is that in an attempt to make the unit as flexible as possible I think I may have made it too complicated. Thus I was wondering what people wanted in an engine monitor. For example the unit which I have completed has 16 thermocouple inputs, two coil inputs, and 15 generic inputs which can be configured to work with almost any sensor. The problem is that the configuration is not trivial. That is the configuration requires the user to know how sensors operate and their calibration curves. It almost requires an engineering background to understand. Therefore I was wondering how many people would want to configure there own sensors verses how many would just purchase the sensors recommended? I am planning on starting to sell these units, hopefully for a profit, but I am worried the support for the configuration would be high. For example the configuration setup is currently beyond my father in law's abilities, but he is not high tech type of person either. I also was wondering how many people would want to monitor other things besides the engine with the same box. For example how many people would want air speed, density altitude, and angle of attack, etc. Currently we were not planning on implementing these features ourselves, but through the configuration the user if they wanted could add these features and others themselves. Thanks Trampas www.sterntech.com Scope out the new MSN Plus Internet Software optimizes dial-up to the max!


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    Time: 02:12:33 PM PST US
    From: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine Monitoring
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com> Subject: Zenith-List: Engine Monitoring > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Trampas" <tstern@nc.rr.com> > Therefore I was wondering > how many people would want to configure there own sensors verses how many > would just purchase the sensors recommended? > I also was wondering how many people would want to monitor other things > besides the engine with the same box. > > Thanks > Trampas > www.sterntech.com I think you're competing with very low prices now. Most builders are barely able to comprehend the electronics box and are afraid to commit to a system that has no track record. Documentation is everything. A guarantee of continued support is another that would worry. Would-be business people take chapter 11 all the time and with a history of so many well intended guys like Bede, GlassAir, etc you've got a lot to overcome. But, if you've got the grit and the know how, have at it. Good Luck Larry McFarland at www.macsmachine.com Do Not Archive


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    Time: 04:14:09 PM PST US
    From: ZSMITH3rd@aol.com
    Subject: Re: monitoring the engine
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: ZSMITH3rd@aol.com The main reason there is a propeller out front is to keep the pilot cool. If the engine quits, watch him sweat. That is all the instrumentation you need. Zed DO NOT ARCHIVE Smith/701/R912/etc


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    Time: 07:23:06 PM PST US
    From: "Kevin W Bonds" <kbonds@worldshare.net>
    Subject: Bending Brake
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Kevin W Bonds" <kbonds@worldshare.net> Someone mentioned in the Archives that Chris H. has some plans for building a Bending Brake, but I can't find anything on ZAC's site. Can someone send me a link? Kevin Bonds Nashville Tn


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    Time: 09:23:34 PM PST US
    From: "Kevin W Bonds" <kbonds@worldshare.net>
    Subject: Bending brake question
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Kevin W Bonds" <kbonds@worldshare.net> I am just starting the building process. I have not yet bought the plans (but am signed up for the workshop) so I need some suggestions. If one were going to buy a small bending break to plansbuild--planning on buying longer parts from ZAC--and had a choice of a 30" or 40" brake (Harbor Freight Central Machinery) which one would be best? Are there many parts that I could bend myself with 40" but not 30" brake? Does anyone have experience with these Central Machinery brakes? Is the 40" brake strong enouph in the middle? Kevin Bonds Nashville Tn


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    Time: 09:46:34 PM PST US
    From: "Steelframe AUS" <sales@steelframe.com.au>
    Subject: Re: Bending brake question
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Steelframe AUS" <sales@steelframe.com.au> Make one yourself out of 2 bits of 4 X 4 in heavy angle iron. Regards Ron Saarinen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin W Bonds" <kbonds@worldshare.net> Subject: Zenith-List: Bending brake question > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Kevin W Bonds" <kbonds@worldshare.net> > > I am just starting the building process. I have not yet bought the plans (but am signed up for the workshop) so I need some suggestions. If one were going to buy a small bending break to plansbuild--planning on buying longer parts from ZAC--and had a choice of a 30" or 40" brake (Harbor Freight Central Machinery) which one would be best? Are there many parts that I could bend myself with 40" but not 30" brake? Does anyone have experience with these Central Machinery brakes? Is the 40" brake strong enouph in the middle? > > Kevin Bonds > Nashville Tn > > > __________ NOD32 1.566 (20031128) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System. > http://www.nod32.com > >




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