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1. 06:33 AM - Re: HDS Wings for sale...... (Larry McFarland)
2. 11:39 AM - Sport Pilot and 601HDS (Dejan Vucinic)
3. 11:57 AM - Re: Sport Pilot and 601HDS (ALEMBIC7@aol.com)
4. 12:35 PM - Bending Brake... (Bima, Martin)
5. 12:50 PM - Re: Sport Pilot and 601HDS (caspainhower@aep.com)
6. 03:11 PM - Re: HDS Wings for sale...... (john tarabocchia)
7. 03:28 PM - Re: HDS Wings for sale...... (john tarabocchia)
8. 04:08 PM - ZAC photoguides (ZSMITH3rd@aol.com)
9. 04:46 PM - Re: Aircraft Paint (Michel Therrien)
10. 04:59 PM - 912 heater hook up (john H)
11. 08:34 PM - 701 fuselage stiffeners (Tebenkof@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: HDS Wings for sale...... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "john tarabocchia"
<TARABOCCHIA@peoplepc.com>
>
> Hello gang,
>
> I plan on building a set of HD wing panels. I currently have HDS outer
wing
> panels (not center section). I don't have a need for two sets of wings so
I
> plan to sell them.
John,
That's a really good price for a set of HDS wings. Pleased to see
you're still in the game. The new Sport Pilot rules will take more
of us to HD wings one day.
Larry McFarland 601HDS
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| Subject: | Sport Pilot and 601HDS |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dejan Vucinic" <n713z@hotmail.com>
A question for those of you who studied the Sport Pilot
category: if one declared the 601HDS with a 1020 lbs
max gross, which gives the 51 mph max stall speed
without flaps, would it otherwise qualify? What would
be the advantages and disadvantages of doing that for
a person who already has the PPL?
--dv, N713Z
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| Subject: | Re: Sport Pilot and 601HDS |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ALEMBIC7@aol.com
One possible advantage I'm looking at is the potential loss of medical and
ppl later on...although you may be able to reclassify the plane then if it
happens...
AZLurker
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| Subject: | Bending Brake... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bima, Martin" <mbima@hydro.mb.ca>
I designed and made my own bending break. First 8 feet long. Then I cut it
down and re-welded it to 2000 mm long. It can handle full length .025
pieces.
It is very a very light weight truss design with a turnbuckle for adjustment
of the truss tension (for thick and long pieces).
I also bought the aluminum 30" brake from Princess Auto (Canadian Harbor
Freight) which is perfect for shorter thicker pieces - less set up time too.
E-mail off group if you want some pics.
bima@autobahn.mb.ca
Martin Bima
STOL-Vair
Winnipeg, Canada
15% airframe
15% engine
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Bending Brake...
I designed and made my own bending break. First 8 feet long. Then I cut it down
and re-welded it to 2000 mm long. It can handle full length .025 pieces.
It is very a very light weight truss design with a turnbuckle for adjustment of
the truss tension (for thick and long pieces).
I also bought the aluminum 30 brake from Princess Auto (Canadian Harbor Freight)
which is perfect for shorter thicker pieces - less set up time too.
E-mail off group if you want some pics.
bima@autobahn.mb.ca
Martin Bima
STOL-Vair
Winnipeg, Canada
15% airframe
15% engine
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| Subject: | Re: Sport Pilot and 601HDS |
01/16/2004 03:50:29 PM
--> Zenith-List message posted by: caspainhower@aep.com
>51 mph max stall speed
>without flaps, would it otherwise qualify? What would
>be the advantages and disadvantages of doing that for
>a person who already has the PPL?
A PPL isn't much good if someone can't pass the physical. One advantage of
the Sport license is being able to use a valid drivers license in place of
a physical. I think the only thing that would prevent the HDS from
qualifying is the stall speed, which needs to be no more than 52 mph
without flaps. Zenith list the HDS as having a stall speed of 54 mph. I
would think there are modifications which could lower the stall speed to
that range, a lot of certified planes have them.
Craig S.
601XS lyc. 235
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| Subject: | Re: HDS Wings for sale...... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "john tarabocchia" <TARABOCCHIA@peoplepc.com>
> John,
> Just wondering, why are you swapping?
>
Want to get the plane to qualify for the impending sport class.
John
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| Subject: | Re: HDS Wings for sale...... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "john tarabocchia" <TARABOCCHIA@peoplepc.com>
> John,
> That's a really good price for a set of HDS wings. Pleased to see
> you're still in the game. The new Sport Pilot rules will take more
> of us to HD wings one day.
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS
> Do Not Archive
They would have to kill this pit bull, to keep from flying.
John
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: ZSMITH3rd@aol.com
Just checked the 701 area of ZAC's photoguides. Found that it was last
updated January 14, 2004, but couldn't find any file with a 2004 date, especially
14 Jan.
Anybody got a clue?
Thanks in advance. BTW, whatever happened to the new engine monitor with
thousands of inputs? I was looking forward to being able to keep tabs on "paint
adhesion coefficient" while in flight.
Zed Smith/701/912/multiple hours/engine mounted/maybe summer/do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Paint |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
Thanks Jim and also thanks to Greg for your responses.
Michel
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--- Jim Kepford <snowy_91@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Jim Kepford
> <snowy_91@yahoo.com>
>
>
> Ive been lurking a while (trying to decide
> weather to build a 701 or a 601) but this a topic I
> know something about as a former auto body repairman
> and I also have a few thousand hours behind a paint
> gun in a scoreboard plant painting aluminum
> scoreboards. I would stick with what ever brand of
> paint your cousin is most familiar with most of the
> companies be it DuPont, PPG or SW. All of those
> companies have very good urethane paint products
> that will give a long life with little care. I used
> primarily PPG paints on score boards. The surface
> was washed with a good degreaser/cleaner and primed
> with a wash primer. That was allowed to flash and
> was top coated with paint using two coats. This is
> the lightest paint job you gonna get. When I paint
> my plane it will be primed with a trio prime and
> done 2 tone using a base coat clear coat system. Not
> quit as light but the filling properties of the trio
> prime will give a much nicer finish. I have a car
> out back in the north forty t
> hat I
> painted with a base coat clear coat (catalyzed
> enamel with a urethane clear top coat) 10 years ago.
> It has been setting in the sun ever since and it has
> yet to show any oxidation with no care at all. If
> you stick with all urethane products Flexibility
> will not be a problem, I have bent metal to a fairly
> small radius and not cracked the paint.
> Jim
>
> Greg Ferris <ferret@wmtel.net> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Greg Ferris"
>
> I used Aerothane paint. I chose this product because
> it is very flexible.
> It is commonly used on fabric aircraft, but also on
> metal. With the .016"
> thick skins, I thought the flexibility was a crucial
> consideration for
> longevity. I'm happy with the results.
>
> Greg
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michel Therrien"
> To:
> Subject: Zenith-List: Aircraft Paint
>
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> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien
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> >
> > Hello group!
> >
> > Now that my plane is almost completed, I am
> thinking
> > about painting it. A cousin who owns a body shop
> (he
> > paint cars) will come home in a couple of weeks. I
> > would like to know what is best from the following
> > stand points:
> >
> > . Durability
> > . Flexibility
> > . Weight
> >
> > My cousin prefers using a base coat/clear coat car
> > paint system. I also heard about Sico Acrythane
> > industrial paint. Then there are the PPG systems
> and
> > of course, the usual aircraft paint.
> >
> > Any input on this topic would be very much
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >
> > =====
> > ----------------------------
> > Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ
> > http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
> > http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby
> > http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
> >
> > __________________________________
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| Subject: | 912 heater hook up |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "john H" <professor71@hotmail.com>
I'm in the process of installing a heater in my 601. I just need to know
which hose to put the shut off valve for water going to the heater core. Is
it the one with the water pump or the one coming from the spyder to the
radiator?
Thanks
John
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| Subject: | 701 fuselage stiffeners |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Tebenkof@aol.com
Hello list members,
It has come to my attention, as I come close to finishing the rear fuselage,
that some (many?, most?) 701 builders have added stiffeners for the large,
flat and otherwise unsupported areas of the rear fueslage. Is there info
available on what approach builders are taking to this? I have seen the "X" shapes
on some photos on the ZAC site. Are most people doing this? Does it seem to
make a real difference? Are there other designs people have used?
As a first time builder I am a little surprised by the number of
unanticipated decisions to be made. But actually it makes me feel pretty good.
It really
is more than a big version of the plastic models of our childhoods. On the
other hand I am glad this site is here, and I will appreciate any help with
this.
Also thanks to the people who responded to my question about amphib floats
and tailwheels.
Jim greenough
tebenkof@aol.com
Oregon
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