---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 02/11/04: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:42 AM - Re: Re: ch 701 kit for sale on e-bay () 2. 06:31 AM - Re: ch 701 kit for sale on e-bay (Jim Kepford) 3. 07:00 AM - Re: Re: 601XL wight & balance (Peter Mather) 4. 01:58 PM - Cyl. Head for Rotax 912/914 (owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com) 5. 02:43 PM - Re: Fw: Hingeless ailerons for 601 (Weston, Jim) 6. 04:56 PM - HELP (gpjann@juno.com) 7. 08:35 PM - Re: HELP (Michel Therrien) 8. 11:48 PM - Re: HELP (Joemotis@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:42:22 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Re: Zenith-List: ch 701 kit for sale on e-bay --> Zenith-List message posted by: I looked at the ebay ad and I think the seller is in New York...Albany? > > From: Jim Kepford > Date: 2004/02/11 Wed AM 03:40:11 GMT > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: ch 701 kit for sale on e-bay > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:31:08 AM PST US From: Jim Kepford Subject: Re: Zenith-List: ch 701 kit for sale on e-bay --> Zenith-List message posted by: Jim Kepford No apology necessary, I should have made that clear in the first post. I'm just starting my plane, it will be years before I get that discouraged! Frank Stutzman wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: Frank Stutzman On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Jim Kepford wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Jim Kepford > > I belive you have me confused with whoever is selling that kit. My apologies. I had lept to the conclusion that since you posted the link, you were the person selling. My mistake. Frank Stutzman Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl" Hood River, OR Jim http://www.snowy91.com/jims_ch701/index.htm --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:00:30 AM PST US From: "Peter Mather" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: RE: 601XL wight & balance --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Peter Mather" Weston Please could you give a brief summary of how you have equipped your aircraft to acheive that weight and thanks for sharing the info Best regards Peter On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:36:14 -0600, "Weston and Judy Walker" wrote > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Weston and Judy > Walker" > > Here is W/B on my finished and flying 601XL with Jabiru > 3300 > > > Empty Weight (includes oil): 729 lbs. > > > Right main wheel 223 lbs., arm 752 mm, moment 167,696 > > Left main wheel 229 lbs, arm 752 mm, moment 172,208 > > Nose wheel 277 lbs, arm -521 mm, moment -144,317 > > > Computed Empty CG= 268mm, moment 195,587 > > > Allowable CG range (according to Zenith) is 300-450mm > > > Some examples: > > > Full fuel (24 gallons total; standard tanks only) and > 200 lb pilot: CG > is 337 > > > Full fuel, 200 lb pilot, 180 lb passenger, 40 lb > baggage, CG is 427 > > > Only 4 gallons fuel, 200 lb pilot, 180 lb passenger, 40 > lb baggage, CG > is 452 (be sure and lean forward!) > > > Full fuel, 140 lb pilot, CG is 315 > > > CG moves aft with fuel burn. If you are at full load, > you must check > your landing CG before you go. > > > I have no idea how the XL handles at a CG of 450. I > haven't done that > yet. > > > Weston Walker > > 3 flights, 2.1 hours total > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Wayne Glasser" > replyto=200402092334.i19NYeW17918@matronics.com> > > > Would anyone with a flying 601XL powered by a Jabiru > 3300 be prepared to > share their weight and balance figures to assist other > builders. > > Many thanks > > Wayne Glasser > Sydney - Australia > CH601-XL 5075 > > > > Contributions > any other Forums. > > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm http://www.matronics.com/photoshare http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:58:46 PM PST US From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com Subject: Zenith-List: Cyl. Head for Rotax 912/914 --> Zenith-List message posted by: Hello list members. If anyone is looking for a cyl head for a Rotax 912/914 engine, I have one for sale on E-bay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&item=2459298620&category=26437&sspagename=STRK%3AMESSE%3AIT&rd=1 Thanks, Johann G. ------------------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:43:12 PM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Fw: Hingeless ailerons for 601 From: "Weston, Jim" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Weston, Jim" Don, I have some good news for you. He is wrong. I live in Georgia, and a DAR out of Griffin, Georgia inspected and approved my 601HDS in 1998. He said that he thought it was a neat design. I can't remember his name, but I can look it up. Jim Weston Concord, Ga. -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ron DeWees Subject: Zenith-List: Fw: Hingeless ailerons for 601 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ron DeWees" Subject: Re: Hingeless ailerons for 601 > Hi listers, > I hate to open a can of worms but ran into a serious problem today. I am > using the standard hingeless ailerons on my 601 HDS and have no reservations > at all about them. When I talked to my potential DAR he asked if I had > hinges or not. When he learned mine are hingeless he said that neither he > or any other DAR in Georgia would sign off on the plane. First off can he > question a proven engineering design and secondly has there EVER been a > failure of the hingeless system? I know Nick set up a test stand to put > thousands of cycles on an aileron and understand that there was never a > problem. The only comment I have ever seen is that it might increase the > stick pressure a bit. Has there been any recent development in this > discussion? I don't mind writing this guy off as a nut but wonder why he > says nobody else will sign it off either? I really don't want to go the > FAA inspection route but might have to unless I have some way to counter > this opinion. > > Ron DeWees. > 601 HDS 90% done, 85% to go. > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:56:45 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: HELP From: gpjann@juno.com --> Zenith-List message posted by: gpjann@juno.com Project: Zodiac 601HDS powered with Corvair 110HP. I'm presently trying to design my VFR electrical layout for my project, and while I have experience with electrical layouts with magnetos, I need some help in designing the engine portion centered around William Wynne's Corvair conversion using front mounted starter and alternator. I would greatly appreciate any help you might be able to offer. Thanks, Greg Jannakos gpjann@juno.com 770-277-1637 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:07 PM PST US From: Michel Therrien Subject: Re: Zenith-List: HELP --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien Do you know about the AeroElectric Connection book and the AeroElectric forum (also on Matronics system)? This would be a great place to start. The book provides a lot of educational information and a series of electrical diagrams that you can use as a starting point. Then, more specific questions can be submitted on the discussion forum. Michel --- gpjann@juno.com wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: gpjann@juno.com > > Project: Zodiac 601HDS powered with Corvair 110HP. > I'm presently trying to design my VFR electrical > layout for my project, > and while I have experience with electrical layouts > with magnetos, I need > some help in designing the engine portion centered > around William Wynne's > Corvair conversion using front mounted starter and > alternator. I would > greatly appreciate any help you might be able to > offer. > Thanks, > Greg Jannakos > gpjann@juno.com > 770-277-1637 > ===== ---------------------------- Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601 http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby __________________________________ http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:48:12 PM PST US From: Joemotis@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: HELP --> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com The Aero-Electric Connection is beyond the Bible for Electrical information for wiring your airplane. If you do not have this book buy it now before you design or hook up anything. After reading it once you will know a whole lot more than you ever thought you needed too, the second reading you will start to understand it, and by the third and beyond you will be using it for a diagnostic tool and a textbook. And, the spamcan jokes will have you rolling... and thats a good thing God I hate that ***** Good Luck Joe Motis I.B.E.W. Local 11 Special Skills Electrician County of Los Angeles Internal Services Department Energy Management .