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1. 04:55 AM - Re: Aileron Trim & Deflection (caspainhower@aep.com)
2. 05:57 AM - Re: venturi troubles?? (caspainhower@aep.com)
3. 06:00 AM - Airbox and firewall arrangements Zenith 701/Jab 3300 (Hal Rozema)
4. 06:51 AM - Re: KITPLANES - Scott Laughlin (Scott Laughlin)
5. 06:59 AM - Re: Stratus Subaru cooling (Larry McFarland)
6. 07:39 AM - 601 Aileron Trim & Deflection (Bob Miller)
7. 09:08 AM - Re: 601 Aileron Trim & Deflection (Thomas F Marson)
8. 09:27 AM - Re: Re: KITPLANES - Scott Laughlin ()
9. 10:37 AM - Re: Airbox and firewall arrangements Zenith 701/Jab 3300 (Chuck Deiterich)
10. 10:38 AM - Re: Airbox and firewall arrangements Zenith 701/Jab 3300 (Chuck Deiterich)
11. 11:47 AM - Re: Rotax 912 starting problems (Thilo Kind)
12. 12:51 PM - Re: Rotax 912 starting problems (Richard McLachlan)
13. 12:53 PM - Need address (Gerald A. Applefeld)
14. 02:00 PM - Re: venturi troubles?? (Flydog1966@aol.com)
15. 02:43 PM - Re: Slat Skin Support Angles - Rivet edge spacing...Done... (Bima, Martin)
16. 04:05 PM - CH-801 Cowling For Sale (Stan Bearup)
17. 04:10 PM - Re: CH-801 Cowling For Sale (Benford2@aol.com)
18. 04:13 PM - Re: Re: KITPLANES - Scott Laughlin (Richard Brown)
19. 04:41 PM - Re: Jabiru 3300 Vac pump pad (Joemotis@aol.com)
20. 04:48 PM - Re: CH-801 Cowling For Sale (Stan Bearup)
21. 05:05 PM - Re: Aileron Trim & Deflection (Bob Miller)
22. 05:47 PM - Re: Stratus Subaru cooling (Bill Morelli)
23. 06:24 PM - Re: CH-801 Cowling For Sale (Benford2@aol.com)
24. 06:48 PM - Re: CH-801 Cowling For Sale (L. hatfield)
25. 07:10 PM - Re: Jabiru 3300 Vac pump pad (Arthur Nation)
26. 07:14 PM - Re: Jabiru 3300 Vac pump pad (Joemotis@aol.com)
27. 07:37 PM - Re: Jabiru 3300 Vac pump pad (Arthur Nation)
28. 08:08 PM - Re: Jabiru 3300 Vac pump pad (Jeff Small)
29. 08:19 PM - Re: Jabiru 3300 Vac pump pad (Joemotis@aol.com)
30. 10:42 PM - Re: 601 Aileron Trim & Deflection (bryanmmartin@comcast.net)
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Trim & Deflection |
02/16/2004 07:54:29 AM
--> Zenith-List message posted by: caspainhower@aep.com
>To make my device work,
>springs would be required to keep the stick centered, kind of like using
>springs to return rudder pedals to center.
Bob,
I'm going to install the duel stick option. That will provide a
convenient place to connect springs at the stick connections, and a movable
pivot in the middle to provide the bias. Then all that required is a
method to adjust the pivot. I also plan to install the EZ-pilot wing
levelling autopilot, so for x-country, aileron trim won't be an issue. I
like the idea of spring bias instead of movable tabs for trim (elevator and
aileron).
Craig S.
N601XS, XL 0-235
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| Subject: | Re: venturi troubles?? |
02/16/2004 08:57:19 AM
--> Zenith-List message posted by: caspainhower@aep.com
>Is it possible that the venturi is icing up and losing
>vacuum?
John,
I haven't heard of venturi icing, other than in a carb which has the
added cooling action of vaporizing gasoline. I fly with a venturi in the
Midwest in all VFR conditions/temps and have never experienced it. I
typically run between 2 - 3 inches, which is a little on the low side.
What is you're vacuum indicating? Do you have a vacuum DG? If so, and it
works OK, you probably have an AI about to fail completely.
Craig S.
N601XS
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| Subject: | Airbox and firewall arrangements Zenith 701/Jab 3300 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net>
Hello everyone:
We just got the correct engine mount installed and the engine rehung and
are starting all of the engine hook up wires and plumbing.
I need some guidance for the best layout of the firewall. So many
pieces, so little space. Suggestions and photos will be most welcome.
Major problem... The Jabiru air box that came with the engine is
impossibly large. No matter whether horizontal or vertical, half of it
projects beyond the edge of the firewall. Is there a smaller version
available? Must I figure out how to fabricate my own (not desirable)?
I have help with a good man for wiring, power, electronics, and avionics
(Gary Eisert, former Canadian Aircraft A&E). Another helper who has
experience with several restorations and has installed a Jab engine in a
Jab airframe (Al Ross). And another person who has volunteered to do any
fiberglass or composite work for my project.
Help, please.
Hal Rozema
theplanefolks.net
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| Subject: | KITPLANES - Scott Laughlin |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
Mark:
I am working on another article that I hope Kitplanes will accept. If you
were to send a note to Kitplanes magazine to let them know you liked the
article, maybe they would more readily accept my next idea.
Brian Clark is the editor and the email listed in the magazine is:
cindy@kitplanes.com
Thanks again for your kind words.
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Mark Stauffer" <mark.stauffer@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: KITPLANES - Scott Laughlin
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mark Stauffer"
<mark.stauffer@comcast.net>
Scott,
That was an outstanding article. I bought a kit from ZAC but the fiberglass
parts are not as good as I'd hoped. I may end up building a set of tips.
Also, I saw a nice rudder tip on at least one 601 at Sun n Fun, Jeff Small
maybe, and may want to do something similar. I agree with Jon, we need more
articles like this in Kitplanes.
Thank you for taking the time to write it.
Mark
601XL, tail completed, waiting on new skins for wings.
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Scott Laughlin has a wonderful article in this month's Kitplanes on building
the 601 wingtips from scratch using composites. Easy to understand, this
looks like a fun project for a first timer.. esp if you see what they charge
for those pieces from Zac...!
If Kitplanes had more articles like this then it would be a better
magazine.... I hope Scott plans more articles like this in the future...
maybe making the ribs from scratch, etc.
Get some great ideas here for your sweetheart on Valentine's Day - and
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| Subject: | Re: Stratus Subaru cooling |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Stratus Subaru cooling
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Tim & Diane Shankland
<tshank@megsinet.net>
>
" Pressure recovery means that the velocity of the
> incoming air must be slowed down , preferable without turbulence to
> efficiently recover the pressure. That means that that you don't make a
> funnel shaped scoop but the reverse, a smaller opening that enlarges to
> the heat exchanger. This slows the air and recovers the pressure."
Tim,
Thanks,
You've nailed precisely what I've been trying to confirm here and in the
cooling
sections of Alternative Engines Volumes I and it isn't without cost.
The "scoop" I originally made for an air intake might just smooth out the
rough connected end of the standard Zenith radiator installation. But it's
still
going to compress a lot of air that way creating drag, if it in fact does
move air.
As you point out, a smaller opening away from the turbulence is better, so
I've begun
another intake that is smaller, just off the belly that will hopefully
improve cooling more.
I've added pics mid way down the Subaru engine page if you're interested in
the evolution
of this effort for the aft belly mounted radiator.
Trying to get these last things completed so it can be flown this spring.
Really appreciate the input from everyone on this
cooling thing.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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| Subject: | 601 Aileron Trim & Deflection |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" <drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
Bryan,
Many thanks. The point about back up control in case of cable or linkage
malfunction is enough to convince me. Guess I'm going to do have to do what
Jeff Small has been saying all along: "just put in the electric trim,
dammit!".
People who have the hinged ailerons really like them, especially those who
switched over to hinged after flying hingeless. Got any tips on how to seal
those aileron gaps? I'm thinking of just a piece of aluminum the length of
the aileron and wide enough to cover the gap from underneath and not get
caught in it at maximum upward deflection of the aileron. Probably put
this gap cover on lightly springed hinges to minimize resistance, with
teflon tape where it meets the aileron and maybe a slight curve on the
trailing edge to prevent hanging up on rivets. Do you think .025 would be
thick enough to keep air pressure from deforming it up into the gap?
I really appreciate your answers.
Bob Miller
----- Original Message -----
From: <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Aileron Trim & Deflection
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: bryanmmartin@comcast.net
>
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller"
<drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
> >
> > I do understand that the deflected control surface creates drag, but
there
> > would sure be less drag if the control surface could be deflected
without
> > the additional drag of an opposing trim tab.
>
> The trim tab does create some small amount of additional drag but it does
> have one advantage, if a control cable or linkage breaks, you can use the
> trim tab to control the airplane to some degree. This might make it
possible
> to make a safe landing.
>
> > To make my device work,
> > springs would be required to keep the stick centered, kind of like using
> > springs to return rudder pedals to center.
>
> You don't really want to keep the stick centered, just balance the trim
forces.
> If the ailerons are deflected you want the stick deflected, otherwise you
> may not be able to use full deflection in the other direction if needed.
>
> > I wonder how much spring
> > pressure would be required, and how it would affect the force necessary
for
> > aileron control? In any event it's probably enough to undo the
advantage of
> > using hinged ailerons.
>
> Hinged ailerons will create more drag than the hingless ones unless you
take
> care to seal the hinge line gap. And yes, springs will affect the control
> forces more than a trim tab.
>
> >
> > PS: If one has a header tank only, and for a given weight distribution,
> > wouldn't aileron trim would stay the same throughout all aspects of the
> > flight? (I'm thinking now of a ground adjustable trim tab if the spring
and
> > threaded rod idea isn't practical.)
> >
>
> Yes it would. Even with wing tanks, it's possible to keep the lateral CG
nearly
> constant by switching tanks at regular intervals. An ground adjustable
trim
> tab should work fine.
>
> Bryan Martin
> Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 601 Aileron Trim & Deflection |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thomas F Marson" <tmarson@pressenter.com>
Yes to the Mac trim--- safety.
On aileron gap just put a piece of tape on the underside. Even lowly duct
tape works wonderfull. Nothing at all is not bad as the piano hinge is a
pretty good seal.
Keep it simple. Tom Marson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Miller" <drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: 601 Aileron Trim & Deflection
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller"
<drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
>
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| Subject: | Re: KITPLANES - Scott Laughlin |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <1arm@rogers.com>
What issue was this in? I took a quick peak at the February issue on the local
newstand and did not see this article.
I had Scott's web page already bookmarked - including his page on tip construction
- but would like to read the article as well.
Could someone post issue and page details?
thanks,
John Montgomery
Ottawa, Canada
>
> From: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
> Date: 2004/02/16 Mon AM 09:50:31 EST
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: KITPLANES - Scott Laughlin
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Airbox and firewall arrangements Zenith 701/Jab 3300 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chuck Deiterich" <cfd@thegateway.net>
Hal,
Check my web site I have pix of Jab 2200 airbox mod and installation.
Chuck D.
N701TX
----- Original Message -----
From: Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net>
<info@jabirupacific.com>; <service@suncoastjabiru.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Airbox and firewall arrangements Zenith 701/Jab 3300
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net>
>
> Hello everyone:
>
> We just got the correct engine mount installed and the engine rehung and
> are starting all of the engine hook up wires and plumbing.
>
> I need some guidance for the best layout of the firewall. So many
> pieces, so little space. Suggestions and photos will be most welcome.
>
> Major problem... The Jabiru air box that came with the engine is
> impossibly large. No matter whether horizontal or vertical, half of it
> projects beyond the edge of the firewall. Is there a smaller version
> available? Must I figure out how to fabricate my own (not desirable)?
>
> I have help with a good man for wiring, power, electronics, and avionics
> (Gary Eisert, former Canadian Aircraft A&E). Another helper who has
> experience with several restorations and has installed a Jab engine in a
> Jab airframe (Al Ross). And another person who has volunteered to do any
> fiberglass or composite work for my project.
>
> Help, please.
>
> Hal Rozema
> theplanefolks.net
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Airbox and firewall arrangements Zenith 701/Jab 3300 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chuck Deiterich" <cfd@thegateway.net>
Hal,
Check my web site I have pix of Jab 2200 airbox mod and installation.
http://members.thegateway.net/cfd/
Chuck D.
N701TX
----- Original Message -----
From: Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net>
<info@jabirupacific.com>; <service@suncoastjabiru.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Airbox and firewall arrangements Zenith 701/Jab 3300
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net>
>
> Hello everyone:
>
> We just got the correct engine mount installed and the engine rehung and
> are starting all of the engine hook up wires and plumbing.
>
> I need some guidance for the best layout of the firewall. So many
> pieces, so little space. Suggestions and photos will be most welcome.
>
> Major problem... The Jabiru air box that came with the engine is
> impossibly large. No matter whether horizontal or vertical, half of it
> projects beyond the edge of the firewall. Is there a smaller version
> available? Must I figure out how to fabricate my own (not desirable)?
>
> I have help with a good man for wiring, power, electronics, and avionics
> (Gary Eisert, former Canadian Aircraft A&E). Another helper who has
> experience with several restorations and has installed a Jab engine in a
> Jab airframe (Al Ross). And another person who has volunteered to do any
> fiberglass or composite work for my project.
>
> Help, please.
>
> Hal Rozema
> theplanefolks.net
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 starting problems |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thilo Kind" <thilo.kind@gmx.net>
Hi Richard,
I might have the same problem: after exchanging the spark plugs I had
trouble starting the engine. Now it is not starting at all. I also had
magneto problems and one rough running incident. My initial thought was an
electrical problem, but the ignition system seems to be okay. Guess, I will
follow your advice and check the gap of the spark plugs. Just one question:
how did you come up with the gap of 20 thou?
Thanks
Thilo Kind
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard McLachlan" <richard@rodsley.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Rotax 912 starting problems
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Richard McLachlan"
<richard@rodsley.net>
>
> We have a CH601HDS fitted with a Rotax 912UL engine. It has been getting
> progressively more difficult to start, culminating in a complete refusal
to
> fire at all. The problem seemed to have begun when we had to change to
> running on Avgas, but we tried all the obvious things to no avail.
>
> Today after seeing a comment in the list archives, we reduced the spark
plug
> gaps to 20 thou. It instantly started first time .
>
> Hope this might help somebody else who gets the same problem.
>
> Richard McLachlan
>
> CH601/R22
>
> landing site details at www.rodsley.net
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 starting problems |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Richard McLachlan" <richard@rodsley.net>
It is actually in my copy of the maintenance manual although I can't see it
in the US version that I downloaded. I also saw that figure in a posting to
this list a while back. Seems to work anyway. Are you running on Avgas?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thilo Kind" <thilo.kind@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rotax 912 starting problems
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thilo Kind" <thilo.kind@gmx.net>
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> I might have the same problem: after exchanging the spark plugs I had
> trouble starting the engine. Now it is not starting at all. I also had
> magneto problems and one rough running incident. My initial thought was an
> electrical problem, but the ignition system seems to be okay. Guess, I
will
> follow your advice and check the gap of the spark plugs. Just one
question:
> how did you come up with the gap of 20 thou?
>
> Thanks
>
> Thilo Kind
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard McLachlan" <richard@rodsley.net>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Zenith-List: Rotax 912 starting problems
>
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Richard McLachlan"
> <richard@rodsley.net>
> >
> > We have a CH601HDS fitted with a Rotax 912UL engine. It has been getting
> > progressively more difficult to start, culminating in a complete refusal
> to
> > fire at all. The problem seemed to have begun when we had to change to
> > running on Avgas, but we tried all the obvious things to no avail.
> >
> > Today after seeing a comment in the list archives, we reduced the spark
> plug
> > gaps to 20 thou. It instantly started first time .
> >
> > Hope this might help somebody else who gets the same problem.
> >
> > Richard McLachlan
> >
> > CH601/R22
> >
> > landing site details at www.rodsley.net
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gerald A. Applefeld" <jerryvmd@blazenet.net>
TO the list,
Last November I sold my EA-81 FWF parts to a gentleman on this list from
Illinois. I have additional parts to sent to him but I have lost his
name and phone number. If he sees this message I send my apologies and
could you please send your name, phone number and address so I can get
the rest of the things to you including the videos. Thanks
Jerry in Hanover, PA
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| Subject: | Re: venturi troubles?? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Flydog1966@aol.com
In a message dated 2/15/04 7:00:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jpkarnes@earthlink.net writes:
<< When I have been flying lately, my gyro horizon has started tumbling after
flying about 20-30 minutes. >>
Trust your instruments!!
just kiddin'
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| Subject: | RE: Slat Skin Support Angles - Rivet edge spacing...Done... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bima, Martin" <mbima@hydro.mb.ca>
Thanks for your help.
I solved the problem by adjusting the spacing between the cuts and keeping
the material removal to a minimum. Also, some of the flaps overlap slightly
but the 2D spacing is possible with very careful work - something just
within my abilities.
Rib L1 - 2.5 hours
Ribs L3 and L4 - next 2 hours
Ribs L6, R1, R3, R4, R6 - next 2 hours
Steep learning curve and a good experience in building and problem solving.
> -----Original Message-----
>From: Bima, Martin
>Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 10:57 AM
>To: 'zenith-list@matronics.com'
>Subject: Slat Skin Support Angles - Rivet edge spacing...
>
>Is anyone else having trouble maintaining the 2D rivet center
>to edge spacing for the skin support angles near the slat?
>
>I can get it but with incredible effort.
>
>Anybody have a easier method than shown in the manual?
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Martin Bima
>Winnipeg, Canada
>STOL-Vair
>20%
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RE: Slat Skin Support Angles - Rivet edge spacing...Done...
Thanks for your help.
I solved the problem by adjusting the spacing between the cuts and keeping the
material removal to a minimum. Also, some of the flaps overlap slightly but the
2D spacing is possible with very careful work - something just within my abilities.
Rib L1 - 2.5 hours
Ribs L3 and L4 - next 2 hours
Ribs L6, R1, R3, R4, R6 - next 2 hours
Steep learning curve and a good experience in building and problem solving.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bima, Martin
Subject: Slat Skin Support Angles - Rivet edge spacing...
Is anyone else having trouble maintaining the 2D rivet center
to edge spacing for the skin support angles near the slat?
I can get it but with incredible effort.
Anybody have a easier method than shown in the manual?
Thanks
Martin Bima
Winnipeg, Canada
STOL-Vair
20%
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| Subject: | CH-801 Cowling For Sale |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Stan Bearup <bearup@gci.net>
I have a new, never installed CH-801 cowling that was built by Danny and crew at
Airlink in Florida for sale. The cowling was designed to fit a Franklin 220
engine installation. I Also have a 4" propeller extension that is used with the
engine/cowling installation. I am asking $1,100 for the set. Please call or
e-mail me if interested.
Stan Bearup
907-490-2656
bearup@gci.net
Alaska Cubs
http://www.alaskacub.com
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| Subject: | Re: CH-801 Cowling For Sale |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
In a message dated 2/16/2004 5:06:24 PM Mountain Standard Time,
bearup@gci.net writes:
>
> I have a new, never installed CH-801 cowling that was built by Danny and
> crew at Airlink in Florida for sale. The cowling was designed to fit a Franklin
> 220 engine installation. I Also have a 4" propeller extension that is used
> with the engine/cowling installation. I am asking $1,100 for the set. Please
> call or e-mail me if interested.
>
>
Where is it at?? Boulder NV or AK ?
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| Subject: | Re: KITPLANES - Scott Laughlin |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Richard Brown" <dicknginni@erinet.com>
John! check the March issue on page 37.... Dick B.
----- Original Message -----
From: <1arm@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: RE: Zenith-List: KITPLANES - Scott Laughlin
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: <1arm@rogers.com>
>
> What issue was this in? I took a quick peak at the February issue on the
local newstand and did not see this article.
>
> I had Scott's web page already bookmarked - including his page on tip
construction - but would like to read the article as well.
>
> Could someone post issue and page details?
>
> thanks,
>
> John Montgomery
> Ottawa, Canada
>
> >
> > From: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
> > Date: 2004/02/16 Mon AM 09:50:31 EST
> > To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Zenith-List: KITPLANES - Scott Laughlin
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru 3300 Vac pump pad |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com
Greetings list
Anybody with a Jabiru 3300, Does it have a pad for a vac pump? Also has any
one adapted a 2nd alternator on it ala Mr. Nuckolls in the AeroElectric
Connection?
Thanks
Joe Motis
601 XL
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| Subject: | Re: CH-801 Cowling For Sale |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Stan Bearup <bearup@gci.net>
Hi Ben,
I have it up here in Alaska right now, but am driving down to Pocatello,
Idaho and then across to Ontario in a couple of weeks. I was thinking of
hauling it down there with me to get it closer to the larger building
population. How is your 801 project coming along?
Stan
From: <Benford2@aol.com>
Where is it at?? Boulder NV or AK ?
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Trim & Deflection |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" <drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
Craig,
I only have a single stick, but yours sounds like an ideal solution for the
dual stick. Simple, effective, cheap, easily adjustable. I like it.
Thanks,
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: <caspainhower@aep.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Aileron Trim & Deflection
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: caspainhower@aep.com
>
>
> >To make my device work,
> >springs would be required to keep the stick centered, kind of like using
> >springs to return rudder pedals to center.
>
> Bob,
> I'm going to install the duel stick option. That will provide a
> convenient place to connect springs at the stick connections, and a
movable
> pivot in the middle to provide the bias. Then all that required is a
> method to adjust the pivot. I also plan to install the EZ-pilot wing
> levelling autopilot, so for x-country, aileron trim won't be an issue. I
> like the idea of spring bias instead of movable tabs for trim (elevator
and
> aileron).
>
> Craig S.
> N601XS, XL 0-235
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stratus Subaru cooling |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Morelli" <billvt@together.net>
Are all you guys aware that there is also a Stratus List?
I believe it was started to direct all Stratrus issues to a seperate list
and not clog up the Zenith list!!
If your a Stratus person, join that list also. It keeps all Stratus issues
in one archive.
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Bill
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| Subject: | Re: CH-801 Cowling For Sale |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
In a message dated 2/16/2004 5:49:09 PM Mountain Standard Time,
bearup@gci.net writes:
>
> Hi Ben,
> I have it up here in Alaska right now, but am driving down to Pocatello,
> Idaho and then across to Ontario in a couple of weeks. I was thinking of
> hauling it down there with me to get it closer to the larger building
> population. How is your 801 project coming along?
> Stan
>
I am a few days from flying,, I hope. This V-8 is taking a ton of time to
fabricare all the trinkets to make it perfect.
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| Subject: | Re: CH-801 Cowling For Sale |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "L. hatfield" <remax500@msn.com>
I will be buying a franklin cowl for a ch 640, it is the same firewall
foward as the ch 801. the project I'm working on is a quick build kit plus
spent some time at the plant working with the shop forman as a head start
and improve aircraft work skills. As for location I live in central Illinois
(Bloomington).
Did you also buy the baffeling for the franklin?
If you haven't sold the cowling I can be contacted by e-mail or at Cell#
(309) 261-0647
LARY HATFIELD
Speed & Performance in Real Estate
>From: Benford2@aol.com
>Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: CH-801 Cowling For Sale
>Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:10:39 EST
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 2/16/2004 5:06:24 PM Mountain Standard Time,
>bearup@gci.net writes:
>
>
> >
> > I have a new, never installed CH-801 cowling that was built by Danny and
> > crew at Airlink in Florida for sale. The cowling was designed to fit a
>Franklin
> > 220 engine installation. I Also have a 4" propeller extension that is
>used
> > with the engine/cowling installation. I am asking $1,100 for the set.
>Please
> > call or e-mail me if interested.
> >
> >
>
>Where is it at?? Boulder NV or AK ?
>
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru 3300 Vac pump pad |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Arthur Nation <anation@w-link.net>
On Monday 16 February 2004 16:41, Joemotis@aol.com wrote:
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Joe,
I believe the info, at usjabiru.com, shows a vacuum pump drive and pad as
standard. Click on engines and then 3300.
Arthur
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com
>
> Greetings list
> Anybody with a Jabiru 3300, Does it have a pad for a vac pump? Also has any
> one adapted a 2nd alternator on it ala Mr. Nuckolls in the AeroElectric
> Connection?
>
> Thanks
> Joe Motis
> 601 XL
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru 3300 Vac pump pad |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com
Thanks Arthur, I did. First time I ever got through to the site too. Although
the last time I tried was months ago
Joe Motis
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru 3300 Vac pump pad |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Arthur Nation <anation@w-link.net>
Joe,
Just looked at the web site for usjabiru. They have 'alternator' listed twice.
Probably should be info about vacuum drive. I just looked at the Australian
site. Go to 'jabiru.net.au' Scroll down thru the engine section. It mentions
the vacuum drive that is available.
Arthur
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On Monday 16 February 2004 16:41, Joemotis@aol.com wrote:
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Joe,
I believe the info, at usjabiru.com, shows a vacuum pump drive and pad as
standard. Click on engines and then 3300.
Arthur
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com
>
> Greetings list
> Anybody with a Jabiru 3300, Does it have a pad for a vac pump? Also has any
> one adapted a 2nd alternator on it ala Mr. Nuckolls in the AeroElectric
> Connection?
>
> Thanks
> Joe Motis
> 601 XL
> Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru 3300 Vac pump pad |
Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 23:11:30 -0500
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff Small" <zodiacjeff@msn.com>
>Anybody with a Jabiru 3300, Does it have a pad for a vac pump? Also has any
>one adapted a 2nd alternator on it ala Mr. Nuckolls in the AeroElectric
>Connection?
Try http://www.usjabiru.com/Tech%20Tips.htm and scroll down to vacuum pumps.
Takes Rapco style pumps - CW rotation.
Don't know if anyone has adapted one of Electrocuted Bob's B&C alternators but
in a message from Andy S. a while back he mentioned that Jabiru is working on
'stacking' another 20 amp alternator on the 5100 for the anticipated electrical
demands that that engine might find. Mentioned was the fact that it would be
available (possibly) for the 3300. You could have a vacuum pump and doubled
alternator output. Still in the development stages one would guess.
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru 3300 Vac pump pad |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com
Thanks Jeff, Arthur, Time for an e-mail to B.and C.
Joe Motis
601 XL @ the will call loading dock
pick up tomorrow
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| Subject: | Re: 601 Aileron Trim & Deflection |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: bryanmmartin@comcast.net
I think the main thing is to prevent air from leaking from the uderside to the
top through the hinge. Maybe just some flexible tape on the underside of the hinge.
If that area is sealed the air will flow smoothly along the underside because
it can't flow upward.
Bryan Martin
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" <drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
>
> People who have the hinged ailerons really like them, especially those who
> switched over to hinged after flying hingeless. Got any tips on how to seal
> those aileron gaps? I'm thinking of just a piece of aluminum the length of
>...
> trailing edge to prevent hanging up on rivets. Do you think .025 would be
> thick enough to keep air pressure from deforming it up into the gap?
>
> I really appreciate your answers.
>
> Bob Miller
>
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