---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 02/22/04: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:00 AM - Re: Safety wiring AN165 turnbuckle end (Benford2@aol.com) 2. 07:16 AM - Re: Safety wiring AN165 turnbuckle end (Michel Therrien) 3. 08:31 AM - Re: Safety wiring AN165 turnbuckle end (Benford2@aol.com) 4. 09:22 AM - Re: Shock mounts revisited (Rich) 5. 11:17 AM - New video (Brett Ray) 6. 04:57 PM - Re: New video (Jack Russell) 7. 07:19 PM - Re: Re aileron Gap Seals (Bryan Martin) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:00:16 AM PST US From: Benford2@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Safety wiring AN165 turnbuckle end --> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com In a message dated 2/21/2004 8:17:06 PM Mountain Standard Time, mtherr@yahoo.com writes: > > Hi Group, > > I'm trying to figure out the right way to safety wire > a turnbuckle with an AN165 "pin" end. For cable end, > it's simple (well, at least, documented), you run the > safety wire through the hole. And for a "fork" end, > you run the wire in the slot. But what do we do for > the pin (or bolt) end? > > Michel > > > Look in the Aircraft Spruce catalog. There is a great drawing showing this. That same connection is on my 801 where the cable mates with the rudder horn. Ben Haas. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:16:30 AM PST US From: Michel Therrien Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Safety wiring AN165 turnbuckle end --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien I did... The picture in ACS is the same as the one in the AC43-13B manual. It shows how to safety wire a fork end and a cable end, but not the pin end. do not archive --- Benford2@aol.com wrote: > Look in the Aircraft Spruce catalog. There is a > great drawing showing this. > That same connection is on my 801 where the cable > mates with the rudder horn. > > Ben Haas. ===== ---------------------------- Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601 http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby __________________________________ http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:31:42 AM PST US From: Benford2@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Safety wiring AN165 turnbuckle end --> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com In a message dated 2/22/2004 8:17:13 AM Mountain Standard Time, mtherr@yahoo.com writes: > > I did... The picture in ACS is the same as the one in > the AC43-13B manual. It shows how to safety wire a > fork end and a cable end, but not the pin end. > > Opps . sorry. I thought a fork end and a pin end were the same thing. do not archive. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:22:30 AM PST US From: "Rich" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Shock mounts revisited --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rich" Lowe's (& possibly Home Depot) has some great "well nuts", all rubber with a threaded brass insert. When the screw is tightened is pulls on the insert & expands the well nut in the hole & forms a flange on the backside. The front of the well nut has a thin washer head also of rubber. See these links for pics... http://www.aboveboardelectronics.com/pop/wnhow.htm http://www.barnhillbolt.com/acb26/category.cfm?&DID=7&CATID=76&GroupCode=1171&MenuCode=1171 Rich 801 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Cardell" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Shock mounts revisited > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bill Cardell > > Bill, > Probably VW or Audi fuel pump mounts. Used on almost all the watercooled > VWs. 6mm stud on each side of rubber isolator. > > Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad) > Flyin' Miata > www.flyinmiata.com > www.fmprotege.com > 970-242-3800 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Steer [mailto:bsteer@gwi.net] > To: Zenith_list > Subject: Zenith-List: Shock mounts revisited > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Steer" > > Somebody posted a note, I believe to this list, that mentioned using some VW > shock mount parts (at $2.50 each) for their instrument panel. I can't find > the note in the archives, though. If anybody saved it, or can reference me > to it, can you please send me a note off-line? Thanks very much. > > Bill > > > advertising on the Matronics Forums. > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:17:18 AM PST US From: "Brett Ray" Subject: Zenith-List: New video --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brett Ray" If anyone is interested in how well the 601 can handle a cross wind. Check out some new video on the site. It was 20 to 25 mph steady with gusts to 30 it handled it no problem. Go to www.hog-air.com and click on video. Brett Ray ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:57:29 PM PST US From: Jack Russell Subject: Re: Zenith-List: New video --> Zenith-List message posted by: Jack Russell Brett: Thanks for the ride. I have enjoyed all of the rides with you so far but aren't you suppose to fly off 50 hrs solo before you can take passengers? ;) Jack Brett Ray wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brett Ray" If anyone is interested in how well the 601 can handle a cross wind. Check out some new video on the site. It was 20 to 25 mph steady with gusts to 30 it handled it no problem. Go to www.hog-air.com and click on video. Brett Ray ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:50 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re aileron Gap Seals From: Bryan Martin --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin on 2/21/04 10:07 PM, Norm Turner at normsflighttraining@bigpond.com wrote: > Seems to me that there is a vortex being produced @ that gap , changing the > airflow and sucking the air through the hinges. Maybe so but water will behave a little differently than air flowing over the wing surface. The air right at the surface is not moving at all, it kind of sticks to the surface. You have to move a bit farther out to find air moving at its full velocity; the area in between this point and the surface is the boundary layer. The next time you drive your car in the rain, watch the drops flowing over the wind shield. They do not move back as fast as the car is moving through the air because the air at the surface of the windshield isn't moving that fast. The boundary layer starts out very thin at the leading edge and gets thicker as you move back. The velocity and pressure will vary from the surface to the outer edge of the boundary layer with minimum velocity and maximum pressure at the surface. Most of the lift produced by the wing is associated with the flow at the outer edge of the boundary layer; most of the parasite drag has to do with what's going on in the boundary layer. Also lift is not being generated uniformly over the entire surface of the wing, most of it is produced near the thickest part of the wing; not as much is being produced near the trailing edge where the hinge line is so not as much pressure difference exists at the hinge line. Water is much more dense than air and has a fairly high surface tension. Water on your wing will tend to stick right to the surface and follow it back and then around the corner and down through the crack at the hinge (look up the Coanda Effect). Just because water is flowing down through the gap doesn't mean air is. There might not be a low pressure area under the hinge, it just might not be enough of a pressure difference to keep the water from flowing down the crack. The only way to know for sure what's going on is to do some experimenting. Try taping some thread to the wing just ahead of the crack and see if they get sucked down in to the gap like the water. -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru. Airframe construction complete. Panel and engine installed. Nearly done.