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1. 03:34 AM - Rotax Carb Flange (Lowell Metz)
2. 05:23 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/25/04 (alex trent)
3. 05:46 AM - Re: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/25/04 (ronnie wehba)
4. 06:19 AM - Fuel Tank Cork Glue (Scott Laughlin)
5. 06:27 AM - Re: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/25/04 (Larry Martin)
6. 06:38 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Cork Glue (Michel Therrien)
7. 06:50 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Cork Glue (Larry Martin)
8. 06:54 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Cork Glue (Bob Miller)
9. 07:13 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Cork Glue (Gary Liming)
10. 07:42 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Cork Glue (Scott Laughlin)
11. 07:50 AM - Re: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/25/04 (caspainhower@aep.com)
12. 08:20 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Cork Glue (Larry McFarland)
13. 08:22 AM - Cooling intake for a Zenith belly radiator installation. (Larry McFarland)
14. 08:50 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Cork Glue (Bill Cardell)
15. 09:32 AM - Re: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/25/04 (Gary Gower)
16. 09:39 AM - Re: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/25/04 (Steve Dixon)
17. 09:46 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Cork Glue (Bill Morelli)
18. 10:07 AM - Re: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/25/04 (Gary Gower)
19. 11:00 AM - Go to the hardware store. (Beckman, Rick)
20. 11:18 AM - Re: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/25/04 (Traveling Man)
21. 07:48 PM - Re: Re: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/25/04 (Larry Martin)
22. 08:27 PM - 701 Wing-Looking for building tips (MElrod3732@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Rotax Carb Flange |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lowell Metz" <lowellmetz@earthlink.net>
List,
I just received a mandatory service bulletin with reference to the carb flanges
and the mandatory replacement of the newly designed ones for the Rotax
912 series. Hmmm. Perhaps the few of us experiencing the " carb departure Syndrome"
were not the only ones. There is a new rubber flange, new clamp , a spacer
on the clamp screw and a torque spec. Ah, the joys of spending money on
your hobby.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Lowell Metz
CH 701 / 912 S
Venice, FL.
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/25/04 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "alex trent" <atrent7@cogeco.ca>
I can't understand why he had so many problems. I have owned a
94.95.96 and 98 models of the Corvair and the only problem I ever had was
that the early models tended to leak oil. This was cured in the later
models. My last Corvair was sold with 100.000 miles on the odometer it still
had the original brakes.
alex
t.
> Mike,
>
> Just one comment, not intendend to sound like a fight with you at all.
>
> In fact, I am also planning to build a Corvair W.Wayne conversion,
> trying to get 2 cores from USA. will later this year...
> > I have an Uncle that owned a Corvair car in the early 70's, when I
>> He told me that I will fly with that engine "over my dead body" he
>
> the worse car he had ever owned, and he was serious...
>
> Now the Corvair conversion is in the top ranking of the 100 hp, 200 lbs
> area Experimental instalation. Go figure.
>
> Buy the way, will be another engine project with no specific plane to
> install it in, just for the conpulsion of building ;-) probably for
> the 601 XL we still have in the box, if we dont sell the kit soon...
>
> Saludos
> Gary Gower
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/25/04 |
required 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00)
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "ronnie wehba" <rwehba@wtxs.net>
what models? don't ca need to turn the 9 upside down?
----- Original Message -----
From: "alex trent" <atrent7@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/25/04
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "alex trent" <atrent7@cogeco.ca>
>
> I can't understand why he had so many problems. I have owned a
> 94.95.96 and 98 models of the Corvair and the only problem I ever had was
> that the early models tended to leak oil. This was cured in the later
> models. My last Corvair was sold with 100.000 miles on the odometer it
still
> had the original brakes.
>
alex
> t.
>
> > Mike,
> >
> > Just one comment, not intendend to sound like a fight with you at all.
> >
> > In fact, I am also planning to build a Corvair W.Wayne conversion,
> > trying to get 2 cores from USA. will later this year...
>
> > > I have an Uncle that owned a Corvair car in the early 70's, when I
> >> He told me that I will fly with that engine "over my dead body" he
> >
> > the worse car he had ever owned, and he was serious...
> >
> > Now the Corvair conversion is in the top ranking of the 100 hp, 200 lbs
> > area Experimental instalation. Go figure.
> >
> > Buy the way, will be another engine project with no specific plane to
> > install it in, just for the conpulsion of building ;-) probably for
> > the 601 XL we still have in the box, if we dont sell the kit soon...
> >
> > Saludos
> > Gary Gower
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Fuel Tank Cork Glue |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
Hi Guys:
I'm ready to glue the strips of cork to one of my wing tanks and I don't
know what kind of glue/adhesive works best. I found the 1/8" thick cork at
an arts & crafts store.
I was thinking about using the black RTV gasket sealer. Has anybody had
good/bad results with this or any other type of adhesive?
Thanks in advance,
Scott Laughlin
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/
Dream of owning a home? Find out how in the First-time Home Buying Guide.
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/25/04 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <earthloc@att.net>
I've never given much thought to using a corvair engine in an aircraft.
Primarily because I owned a couple in the sixties and both were, to put it
mildly from my experience, worthless, oil leaking, rattling machines. Maybe
I'm wrong but I thought the last corvair was made in 1969. I have to admit
I haven't kept up with different car makes in the 90's, they all seem to
look alike. And, in the sixties, it was one of the worst periods for
American engines in as far as longevity goes. Of course there is always
exceptions, but then if a car got 100,000 miles on it, it was way past due
for an overhaul. Nowadays, a 100,000 and it's just broke in. So someone
tell me why a 40 year old technology carbureted engine weighing about 200
pounds is better than a almost new modern technology engine such as a Subaru
2.2 weighing about 220 pounds? I know all the downsides about radiators and
such but I also know some of the problems with air-cooled engines. I've had
a lot of both. I'm not wanting to argue, I just want to know what I don't
know.
----- Original Message -----
From: "alex trent" <atrent7@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/25/04
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "alex trent" <atrent7@cogeco.ca>
>
> I can't understand why he had so many problems. I have owned a
> 94.95.96 and 98 models of the Corvair and the only problem I ever had was
> that the early models tended to leak oil. This was cured in the later
> models. My last Corvair was sold with 100.000 miles on the odometer it
still
> had the original brakes.
>
alex
> t.
>
> > Mike,
> >
> > Just one comment, not intendend to sound like a fight with you at all.
> >
> > In fact, I am also planning to build a Corvair W.Wayne conversion,
> > trying to get 2 cores from USA. will later this year...
>
> > > I have an Uncle that owned a Corvair car in the early 70's, when I
> >> He told me that I will fly with that engine "over my dead body" he
> >
> > the worse car he had ever owned, and he was serious...
> >
> > Now the Corvair conversion is in the top ranking of the 100 hp, 200 lbs
> > area Experimental instalation. Go figure.
> >
> > Buy the way, will be another engine project with no specific plane to
> > install it in, just for the conpulsion of building ;-) probably for
> > the 601 XL we still have in the box, if we dont sell the kit soon...
> >
> > Saludos
> > Gary Gower
> >
> >
>
>
---
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Cork Glue |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
I used contact cement. I think this is what ZAC
recommends.
Michel
--- Scott Laughlin <cookwithgas@hotmail.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin"
> <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
>
> Hi Guys:
>
> I'm ready to glue the strips of cork to one of my
> wing tanks and I don't
> know what kind of glue/adhesive works best. I found
> the 1/8" thick cork at
> an arts & crafts store.
>
> I was thinking about using the black RTV gasket
> sealer. Has anybody had
> good/bad results with this or any other type of
> adhesive?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Scott Laughlin
> http://www.cooknwithgas.com/
>
> Dream of owning a home? Find out how in the
> First-time Home Buying Guide.
>
=====
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Cork Glue |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <earthloc@att.net>
3M trim cement, yellow.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Tank Cork Glue
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin"
<cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
>
> Hi Guys:
>
> I'm ready to glue the strips of cork to one of my wing tanks and I don't
> know what kind of glue/adhesive works best. I found the 1/8" thick cork
at
> an arts & crafts store.
>
> I was thinking about using the black RTV gasket sealer. Has anybody had
> good/bad results with this or any other type of adhesive?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Scott Laughlin
> http://www.cooknwithgas.com/
>
> Dream of owning a home? Find out how in the First-time Home Buying Guide.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Cork Glue |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" <drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
Scott,
An A&P I consulted said to use phenolyic instead of cork, because the cork
will decompose over time. Anybody have any feedback on this idea?
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Tank Cork Glue
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin"
<cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
>
> Hi Guys:
>
> I'm ready to glue the strips of cork to one of my wing tanks and I don't
> know what kind of glue/adhesive works best. I found the 1/8" thick cork
at
> an arts & crafts store.
>
> I was thinking about using the black RTV gasket sealer. Has anybody had
> good/bad results with this or any other type of adhesive?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Scott Laughlin
> http://www.cooknwithgas.com/
>
> Dream of owning a home? Find out how in the First-time Home Buying Guide.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Cork Glue |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Liming <gary@liming.org>
I used Versachem Super Yellow 800, available from the aviation section of
your local auto supply store. ;
)
(I think it was an Advance Auto store around here.) This is stuff is
fuel resistant, and whatever you use, make sure gasoline won't dissolve
it. Its best to plan that, sooner or later, some line service guy will
splash some fuel there.
Gary Liming
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Cork Glue |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
"I used Versachem Super Yellow 800"
Thanks Gary, that's great advice. We have Advance Auto here, so I'll check.
Thanks also to all the other suggestions. I'll post photos when I'm done.
Scott Laughlin
601XL/Corvair
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/25/04 |
02/26/2004 10:49:59 AM
--> Zenith-List message posted by: caspainhower@aep.com
>I've never given much thought to using a corvair engine in an aircraft.
>Primarily because I owned a couple in the sixties and both were, to put it
>mildly from my experience, worthless, oil leaking, rattling machines.
Realizing that this is all 'anecdotal' information, I owned/drove and
rebuilt VW's and Corvairs in the 70's (I believe 1969 was the last model
year for Corvair). I never had oil leakage problems with any engine
except one that was badly overheated after loosing a fan belt. They are
also very critical when it comes to oil, it needs to be kept clean and
full. I believe aircooled engines are ideal for aircraft because the
'Fan' never quites running till the engine does. I am using a lyc 0-235
but would have no problem with using a properly assembled VW or Corvair
engine. I am wondering why Larry owned a second Corvair if the first one
was also a 'worthless, oil leaking, rattling machine.' : - ) This is
strictly my opinion based on personal experience. We will see what kind of
track record William Wynne has with his conversion engines
Craig S.
N601XS, 601XL 0-235 lyc
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Cork Glue |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
Scott,
I used a spray contact cement by 3M for the cork on my
tanks. It holds like iron.
Larry McFarland
Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Tank Cork Glue
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin"
<cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
>
> Hi Guys:
>
> I'm ready to glue the strips of cork to one of my wing tanks and I don't
> know what kind of glue/adhesive works best.
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| Subject: | Cooling intake for a Zenith belly radiator installation. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
Hi list,
I finally completed the custom air intake
that has been in focus since the 12th of this month.
After all the former discussion on the Matronics page,
I decided to replace the former "scoop air intake" with a design
that takes air separate from the belly and proportioned to
increase the intake air only slightly as it passes the mouth
and enters the radiator. This is because the aircraft
is taking air at a much slower speed than WWII craft, but
perhaps pulling the air from a lower position than the bare radiator
will also help. The form, mold and assembly was a complex
sort of construct, but hopefully will answer some of the
questions that were raised on behalf of cooling.
It's also a nice looking piece which says form and function
might be well served by what was accomplished.
If you're interested, I've added pictures on the Subaru engine
page on my site at www.macsmachine.com.
Best regards to all,
Larry McFarland 601HDS (nearly complete)
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| Subject: | Fuel Tank Cork Glue |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bill Cardell <bill@flyinmiata.com>
Agreed. For some reason the black 3m has never stuck as well for me as the
"gorilla snot".
Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad)
bill@flyinmiata.com
Flyin' Miata
1-800-359-6957 (sales only)
970-242-3800 (tech support)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Martin [mailto:earthloc@att.net]
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Tank Cork Glue
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <earthloc@att.net>
3M trim cement, yellow.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Tank Cork Glue
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin"
<cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
>
> Hi Guys:
>
> I'm ready to glue the strips of cork to one of my wing tanks and I don't
> know what kind of glue/adhesive works best. I found the 1/8" thick cork
at
> an arts & crafts store.
>
> I was thinking about using the black RTV gasket sealer. Has anybody had
> good/bad results with this or any other type of adhesive?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Scott Laughlin
> http://www.cooknwithgas.com/
>
> Dream of owning a home? Find out how in the First-time Home Buying Guide.
>
>
---
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/25/04 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
As far as everything I have read in this last years since W. Wayne
became a famous Coravir expert, only good thinks from the Corvair
engine conversions, in fact not even a ignition failure problem, and
they use single ignition...
Hopefully I get the cores in a few months and we will rebuilt it,
Carlos brothers own an engine machining shop, so we will rebuilt it our
selfs in spare time, only the parts costs, and lots of fun. Will be
ny first time with a Corvair. They have machined this engines in the
shop once in a while, only a handfull left here, cant find one since
last year.
Saludos
Gary Gower
--- caspainhower@aep.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: caspainhower@aep.com
>
>
> >I've never given much thought to using a corvair engine in an
> aircraft.
> >Primarily because I owned a couple in the sixties and both were, to
> put it
> >mildly from my experience, worthless, oil leaking, rattling
> machines.
>
> Realizing that this is all 'anecdotal' information, I owned/drove
> and
> rebuilt VW's and Corvairs in the 70's (I believe 1969 was the last
> model
> year for Corvair). I never had oil leakage problems with any engine
> except one that was badly overheated after loosing a fan belt. They
> are
> also very critical when it comes to oil, it needs to be kept clean
> and
> full. I believe aircooled engines are ideal for aircraft because
> the
> 'Fan' never quites running till the engine does. I am using a lyc
> 0-235
> but would have no problem with using a properly assembled VW or
> Corvair
> engine. I am wondering why Larry owned a second Corvair if the first
> one
> was also a 'worthless, oil leaking, rattling machine.' : - ) This
> is
> strictly my opinion based on personal experience. We will see what
> kind of
> track record William Wynne has with his conversion engines
>
> Craig S.
> N601XS, 601XL 0-235 lyc
>
> do not archive
>
>
> This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it from the
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/25/04 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Steve Dixon" <dix39@charter.net>
Alex, are you certain it was a Corvair? I don't think they were produced
after the early 70's when Nader did them in. I still dislike him for that.
I'm guessing that Alex just used the wrong numbers for his Corvair's,
because I would certainly agree with everything else he said about them. I
only had one, I believe it was a '64 Monza, and I loved it. I had several
friends who had them also, and liked them. None of us had any real problems
with the engine, except oil leaks as Mike pointed out. Later in the
production run they made a turbocharged version called the Spyder. As I
recall, there were some problems with that engine, but it was really high
performance. For more information about the use of this engine in aircraft,
there is a list that can be found through a search, or by contacting William
Wynne at www.FlyCorvair.com . I followed the list for several years some
time ago, but I can't recall the name that was used.
I hope this helps.
Steve Dixon
DO NOT ARCHIVE
----- Original Message -----
From: "alex trent" <atrent7@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/25/04
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "alex trent" <atrent7@cogeco.ca>
>
> I can't understand why he had so many problems. I have owned a
> 94.95.96 and 98 models of the Corvair and the only problem I ever had was
> that the early models tended to leak oil. This was cured in the later
> models. My last Corvair was sold with 100.000 miles on the odometer it
still
> had the original brakes.
>
alex
> t.
>
> > Mike,
> >
> > Just one comment, not intendend to sound like a fight with you at all.
> >
> > In fact, I am also planning to build a Corvair W.Wayne conversion,
> > trying to get 2 cores from USA. will later this year...
>
> > > I have an Uncle that owned a Corvair car in the early 70's, when I
> >> He told me that I will fly with that engine "over my dead body" he
> >
> > the worse car he had ever owned, and he was serious...
> >
> > Now the Corvair conversion is in the top ranking of the 100 hp, 200 lbs
> > area Experimental instalation. Go figure.
> >
> > Buy the way, will be another engine project with no specific plane to
> > install it in, just for the conpulsion of building ;-) probably for
> > the 601 XL we still have in the box, if we dont sell the kit soon...
> >
> > Saludos
> > Gary Gower
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Cork Glue |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Morelli" <billvt@together.net>
I used cork originally on my header tank as well as leading edge tanks. I
then developed a small leak in my left leading edge tank. A small section
of weld developed a pinhole.
Anyway, when I took the wing apart to remove the tank for repair I decided
to try and find something more durable than cork. What I found was foam
sheets at a craft store. They are about 3/32" thick and a dense foam that
come is many colors. The sheets are 11-3/4 " x 17-3/4" . To see if the
stuff was compatible with auto gas, I put a piece in a jar filled with gas
for a couple of days and there was no ill effects on the foam ( I did this
job back in October of 2002 and that jar of fuel still has the piece of
foam in it with no ill efects).
I used two layers of this stuff all around the tank (3 layers where the
tank contacts the "L" brackets). Adhesive used was 3M - 77 spray. Worked
out very well.
Regards,
Bill (N812BM - HDS - Tri - Stratus (RAM Heads) - Vermont - 304.7 flight
hrs. - 417 landings, (1 ON ICE!!)
web site -> http://homepages.together.net/~billvt/
> An A&P I consulted said to use phenolyic instead of cork, because the cork
> will decompose over time. Anybody have any feedback on this idea?
> Bob
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Tank Cork Glue
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/25/04 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
I think it could be more of miss use (sp?) of the car (driving it the
wrong way).
I remember when the first Renault cars came here (around the 70's),
people was used to the slow rpms in the 6 in line USA cars.
We could start in second gear from almost a full stop, with no problem
and the engine will puurrr like a kitten, so people treated the
Renaults that way so they were on the lower side of the torque curve
and ruined the engines for detonation... The ones that rev them up in
the normal range, still have them and are happy with them...
I once had a Peogueot 403 (column shift) for repair in my shop that the
owner (US car preowner) never used the 4th gear in the 3 previous years
he droved it, until we test driven the car, and asked him to shift to
forth... He never thought that a car could have 4 gears...
Well, I will built the Corvair engine, if I can find it, in the proper
time.
Saludos
Gary Gower.
Do not archive.
--- alex trent <atrent7@cogeco.ca> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "alex trent" <atrent7@cogeco.ca>
>
> I can't understand why he had so many problems. I have
> owned a
> 94.95.96 and 98 models of the Corvair and the only problem I ever had
> was
> that the early models tended to leak oil. This was cured in the later
> models. My last Corvair was sold with 100.000 miles on the odometer
> it still
> had the original brakes.
>
> alex
> t.
>
> > Mike,
> >
> > Just one comment, not intendend to sound like a fight with you at
> all.
> >
> > In fact, I am also planning to build a Corvair W.Wayne conversion,
> > trying to get 2 cores from USA. will later this year...
>
> > > I have an Uncle that owned a Corvair car in the early 70's, when
> I
> >> He told me that I will fly with that engine "over my dead body"
> he
> >
> > the worse car he had ever owned, and he was serious...
> >
> > Now the Corvair conversion is in the top ranking of the 100 hp, 200
> lbs
> > area Experimental instalation. Go figure.
> >
> > Buy the way, will be another engine project with no specific plane
> to
> > install it in, just for the conpulsion of building ;-) probably
> for
> > the 601 XL we still have in the box, if we dont sell the kit
> soon...
> >
> > Saludos
> > Gary Gower
> >
> >
>
>
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>
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| Subject: | Go to the hardware store. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Beckman, Rick" <Rick.Beckman@atk.com>
I'm ready to glue the strips of cork to one of my wing tanks and I don't
know what kind of glue/adhesive works best.
Scott,
Go to your local hardware store and buy a bottle of
inexpensive
rubber cement. Coat the area on the tank (after cleaning
well) and let
it dry while you coat the cork. Let the glue dry almost
completely, then
apply the cork to the aluminum and it will stay put for you.
Good
luck!!
God Bless!
Rick
729 MSL and sinking
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| Subject: | Re: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/25/04 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Traveling Man" <travliman58@hotmail.com>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <earthloc@att.net>
>So someone tell me why a 40 year old technology carbureted engine weighing
>about 200 pounds is better than a almost new modern technology engine such
>as a Subaru 2.2 weighing about 220 pounds?
Larry -
I can't tell you why an old engine would be better than a newer engine, but
I personnally have been looking at the Corvair converstion because of the
cost. W. W. claims a converstion can be done for about $3000 total (which
may be optomistic, I don't know) but the cost is what is pushing me towards
the Corvair, I do know its a great deal less than either the Rotax or the
Jabiru that Zenith recommend. Can you tell me what the ballpark Subaru
engine cost is?
Bob Lindley
CH601-HD - Now I got a rudder and lots of paper!
Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee when you click here.
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| Subject: | Re: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/25/04 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <earthloc@att.net>
I paid $3000 for my Subaru 2.5, Fuel injected, with direct drive, wiring
harness reworked, Cams ground, two high pressure fuel pumps. Since then,
I've had the intake reworked into a low profile and an engine mount made.
And I have to buy an aluminum radiator. All together, I will have less than
5k in it. The 3k was a pretty good price, but not exceptional. I passed
on a 2.5 on e-bay that went for $1500, I didn't need two. And, I see them
all the time for around 2 to 2.5k. Of course you can also spend 12-14k if
you want too. I know a guy right now that has a EJ-20, tubo with 8500 miles
on it with the ECU. He's asking $2200, if he still has it. If anyone is
interested, let me know and I will put you in touch.
It all boils down to what a guy wants or believes. I've been using Subarus
in gyros for a few years and pretty much know where to get all the work done
at reasonable costs. And, have had no problems. There's probably nothing
wrong with corvair engines, I just don't know too much about them.
Everybody likes what they know best.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Traveling Man" <travliman58@hotmail.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 02/25/04
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Traveling Man"
<travliman58@hotmail.com>
>
> >>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <earthloc@att.net>
>
> >So someone tell me why a 40 year old technology carbureted engine
weighing
> >about 200 pounds is better than a almost new modern technology engine
such
> >as a Subaru 2.2 weighing about 220 pounds?
>
> Larry -
>
> I can't tell you why an old engine would be better than a newer engine,
but
> I personnally have been looking at the Corvair converstion because of the
> cost. W. W. claims a converstion can be done for about $3000 total (which
> may be optomistic, I don't know) but the cost is what is pushing me
towards
> the Corvair, I do know its a great deal less than either the Rotax or the
> Jabiru that Zenith recommend. Can you tell me what the ballpark Subaru
> engine cost is?
>
> Bob Lindley
> CH601-HD - Now I got a rudder and lots of paper!
>
> Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee when you click here.
>
>
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| Subject: | 701 Wing-Looking for building tips |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: MElrod3732@aol.com
Hi Group I started construction on my 701 last Nov. and I am finishing up
on the tail feathers.
Before I start on the wings, I would appreciate any building tips and/or
advice on possible problem areas and any special techniques on making the process
easier.
Thanks in advance
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