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1. 03:15 AM - Stol 701 engine (Dirk Slabbert)
2. 07:00 AM - 601XL Baggage floor (Al Young)
3. 09:35 AM - Re: 601XL Baggage floor (Bill Howerton)
4. 12:13 PM - Re: 601XL Baggage floor (David Barth)
5. 12:21 PM - Re: 601XL Baggage floor (bryanmmartin@comcast.net)
6. 12:40 PM - Re: 601XL Baggage floor (bryanmmartin@comcast.net)
7. 02:42 PM - Re: Sun n FUN! Who is going? (Mark Stauffer)
8. 02:44 PM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/05/04 (Tom Eckstein)
9. 03:49 PM - Re: Sun n FUN! Who is going? (wscribb)
10. 08:03 PM - Re: 601XL Baggage floor (nhulin)
11. 08:06 PM - Re: Sun n FUN! Who is going? (nhulin)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dirk Slabbert" <dirkslabbert@telkomsa.net>
I am considering to use a BMW R1150 engine in a 701, does anyone know if it has
been done?
Thanks,
Dirk in Africa
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| Subject: | 601XL Baggage floor |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Al Young" <armyret@one-eleven.net>
Need some ideas. The baggage floor side rivets are next to impossible to drill
and rivet because of the upper longeron is so close. Any ideas on how to get
the holes drilled? Thought about drilling the holes that I can reach, clecoing
them, removing the floor and the side brackets and finishing the job. My worry
is whether I can get the whole assembly back in the fuselage if I follow
this idea. Would appreciate any comments from other XL builders.
Al Young
N-601AY- 70% there and 70 % to go.
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Baggage floor |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Howerton" <Bill@Howerton.com>
I had the same concern - so what I did was to acually drill the holes for
L-Angles to the floor OUTSIDE of the plane, I then left the L-Angles that go
longwise attached to the floor itself and then using the flex of the
aluminum,. I positioned the whole assembly into the fuselage (no- it wasn't
an easy task), then that allowed me to drill through the supports from
outside the plane, rather than try to fit my drill between the longerons.
To get a good line, I drilled three holes from the iside where my drill
could reach then simply "connected the dots" I then just positioned the
cross braces into the predrilled holes, and clecoed them down.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Al Young" <armyret@one-eleven.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: 601XL Baggage floor
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Al Young" <armyret@one-eleven.net>
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> Need some ideas. The baggage floor side rivets are next to impossible to
drill and rivet because of the upper longeron is so close. Any ideas on how
to get the holes drilled? Thought about drilling the holes that I can
reach, clecoing them, removing the floor and the side brackets and finishing
the job. My worry is whether I can get the whole assembly back in the
fuselage if I follow this idea. Would appreciate any comments from other XL
builders.
>
> Al Young
> N-601AY- 70% there and 70 % to go.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Baggage floor |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: David Barth <davids601xl@yahoo.com>
I was planning on getting that snake extension for my
rotary tool and then brake an inch or so off the
working end of the drill bit to use with the rotary
tool. Have no proof this will work yet but was
planning to try it when having to drill in tight
places. FWIW
David
Any ideas on how to get
> the holes drilled? Thought about drilling the holes
> that I can reach, clecoing them, removing the floor
> and the side brackets and finishing the job. My
> worry is whether I can get the whole assembly back
> in the fuselage if I follow this idea. Would
> appreciate any comments from other XL builders.
>
> Al Young
> N-601AY- 70% there and 70 % to go.
>
>
>
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>
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David Barth
601 XL Plansbuilder 15% done?
Making Spars - ready for Chromate and riveting
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Baggage floor |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: bryanmmartin@comcast.net
As I recall, I used a 90 degree drill attachment and drilled some of the holes
from below with the top rear skin removed. You can get the attachment at U. S.
Industrial Tools. It came in handy many times.
http://www.ustool.com/usstore.asp?WCI=wciViewItem&WCE=91652s
Bryan Martin
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Al Young" <armyret@one-eleven.net>
>
> Need some ideas. The baggage floor side rivets are next to impossible to drill
> and rivet because of the upper longeron is so close. Any ideas on how to get
> the holes drilled? Thought about drilling the holes that I can reach, clecoing
> them, removing the floor and the side brackets and finishing the job. My worry
> is whether I can get the whole assembly back in the fuselage if I follow this
> idea. Would appreciate any comments from other XL builders.
>
> Al Young
> N-601AY- 70% there and 70 % to go.
>\
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Baggage floor |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: bryanmmartin@comcast.net
http://www.ustool.com/usstore.asp?WCI=wciViewItem&WCE=91652s/usstore.asp?WCI=wciViewItem&WCE=91652s
For more details on this go to http://www.ustool.com and click on the "specials"
button and look at the bottom of the third page.
Bryan
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| Subject: | Sun n FUN! Who is going? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mark Stauffer" <mark.stauffer@comcast.net>
I'm planning on being there. Several of us met last year at the Zenith tent
at closing time. Maybe we can put a sign up sheet at the tent again this
year. Maybe meet and have a cold beverage of choice at Margaritaville on the
SnF grounds? I would love to meet and talk to anyone there.
Mark
601XL working on fuselage
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jon Croke
Subject: Zenith-List: Sun n FUN! WHo is going?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
Hap, Zed and all....
Who will be joining me at Sun n Fun????
Figure it would be a great central meeting place for all of us builders to
meet in person... (well, kinda centralized location, I guess!)
Im going Thursday thru Saturday... maybe not all of those days... it IS
Florida so some time spent at Busch Gardens and things like that I suppose..
Jon
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/05/04 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Tom Eckstein <teck@wwnet.net>
Please take me off your e-mail list. Thanks.
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| Subject: | Sun n FUN! Who is going? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "wscribb" <wscribb@centurytel.net>
My father and I will be making the trip down from Seattle, plan on being
there Thursday through Saturday. We also look forward to meeting with
follow builders. Discussions over a cool beverage sound great.
Bill Cribb
601XL Plans Builder
75% there and a bunch to go.
N601WC (reserved)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Stauffer
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Sun n FUN! Who is going?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mark Stauffer"
--> <mark.stauffer@comcast.net>
I'm planning on being there. Several of us met last year at the Zenith
tent at closing time. Maybe we can put a sign up sheet at the tent again
this year. Maybe meet and have a cold beverage of choice at
Margaritaville on the SnF grounds? I would love to meet and talk to
anyone there.
Mark
601XL working on fuselage
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jon Croke
Subject: Zenith-List: Sun n FUN! WHo is going?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
Hap, Zed and all....
Who will be joining me at Sun n Fun????
Figure it would be a great central meeting place for all of us builders
to meet in person... (well, kinda centralized location, I guess!)
Im going Thursday thru Saturday... maybe not all of those days... it IS
Florida so some time spent at Busch Gardens and things like that I
suppose..
Jon
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Baggage floor |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "nhulin" <nhulin@hotmail.com>
Al,
I'm working on the baggage floor of my XL at the moment. I've not riveted
the side skins. What I've done so far is to drill and cleco the angles to
the side skins, then remove and pilot drill the horizontal surface of the
angles. I cleco the angles back in place and can mark through the pilot
holes to locate the position of the angles on the underside of the baggage
floor. These can then the used to drill the angles to the baggage floor off
the airplane. Install the transverse stiffeners at the same time since
you'll want the stiffeners to intersect with one of the holes in the angles.
To reassemble, reinstall the angles to the side skins. Install the baggage
floor, then the stiffeners, and cleco the angles to the baggage floor. Once
you've done that, you can pull the clecoes from the side skins and peel the
side skins back, drop the baggage floor down enough to fit a hand riveter in
under the longeron and pull the rivets for the angles and stiffeners. Slide
the baggage floor back up into place and cleco to the side skins again.
I've still got a bit more to do since I haven't drilled to the seat back or
to bulkhead three since I'm installing a four point harness and have some
extra work to do at the back of the baggage shelf.
Clear skies and tailwinds,
..neil
601XL/Corvair - Fuselage and stuff
Cincinnati
On Thu Mar 11 - 7:00 AM, Al Young (armyret@one-eleven.net) wrote:
Need some ideas. The baggage floor side rivets are next to impossible to
drill and rivet because of the upper longeron is so close. Any ideas on how
to get the holes drilled? Thought about drilling the holes that I can
reach, clecoing them, removing the floor and the side brackets and finishing
the job. My worry is whether I can get the whole assembly back in the
fuselage if I follow this idea. Would appreciate any comments from other XL
builders.
Al Young
N-601AY- 70% there and 70 % to go.
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| Subject: | RE: Sun n FUN! Who is going? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "nhulin" <nhulin@hotmail.com>
I'll be at SnF all week. Will be looking for people at around 5pm every day
at the Zenith display. This seemed to work fairly well last year. Otherwise
you might find me at the Corvair tent. I also volunteer at the radio
station.
..neil
601XL/Corvair
Cincinnati
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