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1. 06:20 AM - Suzuki (Larry Martin)
2. 06:46 AM - Your Help (Al Young)
3. 06:47 AM - Brake fluid ???? (Benford2@aol.com)
4. 06:58 AM - Re: BMW 1100 engine (pcondon)
5. 07:22 AM - Re: Brake fluid ???? (Rick)
6. 07:26 AM - Re: Brake fluid ???? (Joemotis@aol.com)
7. 07:31 AM - Re: Brake fluid ???? (Benford2@aol.com)
8. 07:36 AM - Re: Brake fluid ???? (Joemotis@aol.com)
9. 07:45 AM - Re: Brake fluid ???? (Michel Therrien)
10. 07:55 AM - Re: Brake fluid ???? (Chuck Deiterich)
11. 08:07 AM - Re: Brake fluid ???? (Thomas F Marson)
12. 09:24 AM - Re: Brake fluid ???? (RURUNY@aol.com)
13. 01:02 PM - Re: Brake fluid ???? (Robert Schoenberger)
14. 01:42 PM - 6-port fuel selector valve (David Barth)
15. 05:05 PM - Re: 6-port fuel selector valve (Jim and Lucy)
16. 05:24 PM - Re: 0-235 Lycoming Engine Mount (jnbolding1)
17. 07:10 PM - Re: Brake fluid ???? (Jeff Paden)
18. 07:49 PM - Re: Brake fluid ???? (Larry Martin)
19. 08:29 PM - Re: 6-port fuel selector valve (Jeff Paden)
20. 09:02 PM - Re: Brake fluid ???? (Jim and Lucy)
21. 09:31 PM - Re: 0-235 Lycoming Engine Mount (Brett Ray)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <earthloc@att.net>
Recently someone ask about other auto conversion engines for the 701. Here's one
I ran across on the rotorcraft forum. Suzuki.
http://www.bilsamaviation.com/engine.htm
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Al Young" <armyret@one-eleven.net>
List- Many thanks for your suggestions regarding the XL baggage floor installation.
Great ideas one and all, and I appreciate it..
Al Young
601XL
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| Subject: | Brake fluid ???? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
What style fluid are you guys using in the matco brakes. Regular auto stuff,
silicone, red aviation stuff????
Thanks in advance
ben haas n891bh
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| Subject: | RE: BMW 1100 engine |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "pcondon" <pcondon@mitre.org>
There is a link to a Europe builder who is doing a BMW conversion. Check out
http://www.aviator.cc/engines.html for list of engines. There is a link to a
BMW project there, as a indirect link.
Raven Redrives Geo/Metro Suzuki 1300 4 cyl. Auto conversion is apparently
pretty popular with the 701 crowd. Raven is producing the engine mount as
well as the conversion package. I Opted for a additional turbo-charger. I
want to play around with MPFI (Multi Port Fuel Injection), Electronic
Ignition, DOHC, 4 valve per cylender,turbo, computer controlled & water
cooled engine. Snagged mine for 300 dollars american,1999 GEO Metro 1300,
running, with 37,000 miles from the salvage yard.
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| Subject: | Re: Brake fluid ???? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick <rick.pitcher@verizon.net>
Benford2@aol.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
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> What style fluid are you guys using in the matco brakes. Regular auto stuff,
> silicone, red aviation stuff????
>
> Thanks in advance
> ben haas n891bh
I just use automotive Automatic Transmission Fluid, Dexron III, That's what was
included with the Matco brakes that I bought for an earlier project.
Their website is at http://www.matcomfg.com/
Rick P.
still smilin'
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| Subject: | Re: Brake fluid ???? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com
In a message dated 3/12/2004 7:24:58 AM Pacific Standard Time,
rick.pitcher@verizon.net writes:
http://www.matcomfg.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Brake fluid ???? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
In a message dated 3/12/2004 8:24:58 AM Mountain Standard Time,
rick.pitcher@verizon.net writes:
>
> I just use automotive Automatic Transmission Fluid, Dexron III, That's what
> was
> included with the Matco brakes that I bought for an earlier project.
> Their website is at http://www.matcomfg.com/
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> Rick P.
> still smilin'
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>
Thanks I just went to that site and looked. It does say Silicone based only.
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| Subject: | Re: Brake fluid ???? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com
Greetings listers,
The brake fluid post reminded me of a question. What are the suggestions for
parking brakes on a 601 XL. Seem to remember some kind of valve but ? Have
seen some in A/C Spruce catalog, is their any one kind recomended?
Thanks
Joe Motis
601 XL
Working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: Brake fluid ???? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
I installed the Matco parking brake valve. I set the
brake on my plane at the end of august and in february
this year, it was still holding the plane in place.
Seems to work very well.
It is mounted on the firewall.
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601/images/DCP01855.JPG
Please take note that I moved it since it was
interfering with the pedals. It is now installed
between the pedals instead of in front of the right
one. The fuel pump is no longer at the location shown
on the picture.
Michel
--- Joemotis@aol.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com
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> Greetings listers,
> The brake fluid post reminded me of a question. What
> are the suggestions for
> parking brakes on a 601 XL. Seem to remember some
> kind of valve but ? Have
> seen some in A/C Spruce catalog, is their any one
> kind recomended?
> Thanks
> Joe Motis
> 601 XL
> Working on wings
> Do not archive
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http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby
http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
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| Subject: | Re: Brake fluid ???? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chuck Deiterich" <cfd@thegateway.net>
My Matco directions said to use red aviation brake fluid.
Chuck D.
N701TX
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From: <Benford2@aol.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Brake fluid ????
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
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> What style fluid are you guys using in the matco brakes. Regular auto
stuff,
>
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| Subject: | Re: Brake fluid ???? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thomas F Marson" <tmarson@pressenter.com>
anything but aviation red will ruin the system in short order. tom
----- Original Message -----
From: <Benford2@aol.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Brake fluid ????
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
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> What style fluid are you guys using in the matco brakes. Regular auto
stuff,
> silicone, red aviation stuff????
>
> Thanks in advance
> ben haas n891bh
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Brake fluid ???? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com
I remember the instructions calling for
red aviation mil spec 5606 brake fluid.
The new matco web site has some nice printable pdf manuals for
their products.
When I received my wheel/brake assemblies for my 701 kit there
was a cap screw head sheared off on one of the calipers. One of the ones that the
shoe slides on. Anyway I used the online PDF diagrams and their online shopping
and received this and some other stuff in 2 days.
http://www.matcomfg.com/
Brian
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| Subject: | Re: Brake fluid ???? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Schoenberger" <hrs1@frontiernet.net>
I remember seeing a posting a year or two ago whereby a shutoff valve,
accessible from the cockpit while depressing the brake, was inserted between
the brake piston by the pedal and the brake. To have parking brakes, apply
the brakes, turn the valve, trap the pressurized brake fluid between the
valve and the brake, and take one's foot off the brake pedal. The brakes
stay applied until the valve is reopened. Hap Schoenberger 701 do not
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----- Original Message -----
From: <Joemotis@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Brake fluid ????
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com
>
> Greetings listers,
> The brake fluid post reminded me of a question. What are the suggestions
for
> parking brakes on a 601 XL. Seem to remember some kind of valve but ?
Have
> seen some in A/C Spruce catalog, is their any one kind recomended?
> Thanks
> Joe Motis
> 601 XL
> Working on wings
> Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | 6-port fuel selector valve |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: David Barth <davids601xl@yahoo.com>
Hi List.
I am kind of choking on the huge pricetag associated
with the Andair and other aviation 6-port fuel tank
selector valves I have managed to find. We are
running fuel injection so returning the feul to the
same tank it came from is important and the simplest
way will be with a 6-port fuel selector valve.
Have any of you others who would choke on the high
price come up with a cheaper alternative that will
work reliably? Thanks for your help.
David
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601 XL Plansbuilder 15% done?
Making Spars - ready for Chromate and riveting
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| Subject: | Re: 6-port fuel selector valve |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jim and Lucy <jpollard@mnsi.net>
At 01:42 PM 3/12/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: David Barth <davids601xl@yahoo.com>
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>Hi List.
>I am kind of choking on the huge pricetag associated
>with the Andair and other aviation 6-port fuel tank
>selector valves I have managed to find. We are
>running fuel injection so returning the feul to the
>same tank it came from is important and the simplest
>way will be with a 6-port fuel selector valve.
>
>Have any of you others who would choke on the high
>price come up with a cheaper alternative that will
>work reliably? Thanks for your help.
>David
>
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>601 XL Plansbuilder 15% done?
>Making Spars - ready for Chromate and riveting
>
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We had a farm pickup that had dual tanks and a valve like this one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3802541006&category=11769
not my auction just an example
It had return fuel to the tank selected to keep the fuel cool.
It worked good for 25 years untill the return part would not switch
and you had to be carefull not to run the right tank over when running
a long time on the left tank.
Jim Pollard
601hds
putting in second wing tank.
http://www.kentflyingmachines.org/Jimsplane.html
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| Subject: | Re: 0-235 Lycoming Engine Mount |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "jnbolding1" <jnbolding1@mail.ev1.net>
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: victor verdev <vjvus@yahoo.com>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: victor verdev <vjvus@yahoo.com>
>
>I'm looking for A 0-235 Lyc. Dynafocal engine mount
>for A 601XL. Or if someone will build one from ZAC
>print. Please contact Vic at vjvus@yahoo.com
>Thanks
>
>
Victor got drawings today, give me a couple of days and I'll email you a price,
will try to find a scrap 0235 case to jig it up with. John
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| Subject: | Re: Brake fluid ???? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff Paden" <jeffpaden@madbbs.com>
Aircraft Spruce sells the valve mentioned in this post. I installed one in
my CH-300 and have also installed one in my CH-640.
It is part number 06-17200 and the cost is $103.95
By the way, I finished my engine mount today! Just about ready to fly my
CH-640 finally! Just need to build the wings and install the canopy and
electrical systems etc etc.
Jeff Paden
I remember seeing a posting a year or two ago whereby a shutoff valve,
accessible from the cockpit while depressing the brake, was inserted between
the brake piston by the pedal and the brake. To have parking brakes, apply
the brakes, turn the valve, trap the pressurized brake fluid between the
valve and the brake, and take one's foot off the brake pedal. The brakes
stay applied until the valve is reopened.
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| Subject: | Re: Brake fluid ???? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <earthloc@att.net>
I can't think of the brand, but I always use a synthetic brake fluid. You
can get it at any racing parts supplier. It doesn't ruin your paint in case
of a spill. Plus it's easy on seals and such.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick" <rick.pitcher@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Brake fluid ????
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick <rick.pitcher@verizon.net>
>
>
> Benford2@aol.com wrote:
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
> >
> > What style fluid are you guys using in the matco brakes. Regular auto
stuff,
> > silicone, red aviation stuff????
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > ben haas n891bh
>
> I just use automotive Automatic Transmission Fluid, Dexron III, That's
what was
> included with the Matco brakes that I bought for an earlier project.
> Their website is at http://www.matcomfg.com/
>
> Rick P.
> still smilin'
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 6-port fuel selector valve |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff Paden" <jeffpaden@madbbs.com>
The instructions that came with my fuel injection system says that you can
simply put a T on the fuel selector so that the bypass fuel is linked to the
feed line from the fuel selector. I don't know if this will help you, but
that is the way I am going to plumb my fuel injection system.
Jeff Paden
>I am kind of choking on the huge pricetag associated
>with the Andair and other aviation 6-port fuel tank
>selector valves I have managed to find. We are
>running fuel injection so returning the feul to the
>same tank it came from is important and the simplest
>way will be with a 6-port fuel selector valve.
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| Subject: | Re: Brake fluid ???? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jim and Lucy <jpollard@mnsi.net>
Dot 5 is ok silicone bases brake fluid.
Dot 3 and 4 are no good.
ATF fluid is ok
red aviation brake stuff is ok.
I asked them a while back and that is what
they said
Jim Pollard
ch601hds
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| Subject: | Re: 0-235 Lycoming Engine Mount |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brett Ray" <brett@hog-air.com>
I can build you one. If you still need it e-mail me or give me a call.
Brett@hog-air.com or 1-888-782-7676
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: victor verdev <vjvus@yahoo.com>
>
> I'm looking for A 0-235 Lyc. Dynafocal engine mount
> for A 601XL. Or if someone will build one from ZAC
> print. Please contact Vic at vjvus@yahoo.com
> Thanks
>
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