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1. 01:27 AM - Re: Rudder cemtering and pressures (Benford2@aol.com)
2. 06:08 AM - Re: Cortec primer? (Al Young)
3. 06:13 AM - Re: N633Z's first flight was today! It's a CH601XL with a Jabiru 3300. (Larry McFarland)
4. 07:24 AM - Re: N633Z's first flight was today! It's a CH601XL with a Jabiru 3300. (Rick)
5. 07:39 AM - Re: Cortec primer? (DEGlass1@aol.com)
6. 07:52 AM - Re: Static location for 601 (RiteAngle3@aol.com)
7. 08:22 AM - Re: Bad Back (Thomas F Marson)
8. 08:55 AM - Re: Cortec primer? (JERICKSON03E@aol.com)
9. 09:40 AM - 601XL wing tips (The Minearts)
10. 10:52 AM - Re: Cortec primer? (bryanmmartin@comcast.net)
11. 11:29 AM - Re: RVbuilder.....but i like the 640 (Matthew Mucker)
12. 01:19 PM - Re: Bad Back (Robert Schoenberger)
13. 01:23 PM - Re: Cortec primer? (Robert Schoenberger)
14. 01:38 PM - 601 XL rear rib (Robert Schoenberger)
15. 01:38 PM - Re: Bad Back (Dan knezacek)
16. 02:05 PM - 601 HD access hatch (George Swinford)
17. 02:14 PM - Access Hatch in 601 fuselage (George Swinford)
18. 02:20 PM - 601Access hatch (George Swinford)
19. 02:22 PM - 601 fuselage access hatch (George Swinford)
20. 02:29 PM - Re: 601XL wing tips (Wayne Glasser)
21. 04:53 PM - Re: Cortec primer? (Joemotis@aol.com)
22. 05:08 PM - Re: Access Hatch in 601 fuselage (Joemotis@aol.com)
23. 05:23 PM - Re: 601 fuselage access hatch (Bill Howerton)
24. 05:32 PM - Primer (Dave & Darlene)
25. 06:07 PM - Re: Primer (Wayne Glasser)
26. 06:15 PM - Re: 601 fuselage access hatch (Dan knezacek)
27. 09:13 PM - Re: 601Access hatch (Cleone Markwell)
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder cemtering and pressures |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
In a message dated 4/9/2004 8:40:46 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
grnlake@earthlink.net writes:
>
> Has anyone dealt with this issue in a way you found effective? I thought I
> would just fly awhile to see it I had fit things to tightly and it would
> loosen up a bit. I have also applied some grease to the strut, bearing and
> riding surface of the "V" notch, but this seems to have little effect.
>
> It is not terrible, but I know others must have found a way to deal with
> this to give it the same nice feel as the other controls.
>
> Walt Cannon
> N701WD
> Seattle WA
>
Don't feel too bad. My 801 is the same way. I will modify the V block after I
get this smile off my face. Look at the bright side, we are gonna have real
strong legs when we get through flying...
Ben Haas N801BH.
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| Subject: | Re: Cortec primer? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Al Young" <armyret@one-eleven.net>
Kevin- Zenair in Mex, Mo sold me a qt. As I remember, it was about $20.00.
Al Young
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| Subject: | Re: N633Z's first flight was today! It's a CH601XL with a |
Jabiru 3300.
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: N633Z's first flight was today! It's a CH601XL with a
Jabiru 3300.
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: xl <xl@prosody.org>
>
> Joe Edwards
> N633Z @ AWO
>
Congratulations Joe. You've a really nice looking plane there.
Larry McFarland 601HDS
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| Subject: | Re: N633Z's first flight was today! It's a CH601XL with a |
Jabiru 3300.
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick <rick.pitcher@verizon.net>
Congratultions Joe! Quite a thrill, huh?
Your closing line sums it up best: "Whoooowie!!!!!!!!!"
Send some pics, and keep us posted on how the Phase One flight testing
goes.
Rick Pitcher
601HD w/Jabiru 3300
xl wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: xl <xl@prosody.org>
>
>
> Hello all!
>
> I flew out of AWO. The takeoff was exciting - 633Z floated off the
> ground. I eased the stick back. The elevator has *lots* of authority
> and I quickly released pressure. I climbed at 100mph at about 700fpm
> to 3000ft and circled the airfield. I needed full right aileron trim
> to fly fairly straight hands off. In my 4th oval around the field I
> entered the crosswind and settled into the pattern. I trimmed for the
> approach and N633Z returned to the ground nicely. N633Z now has 0.5hrs
> on the tach.
>
> Whew! It was one of the most intense experiences that I've had.
> (Primarily because it was the first time that I've test flown an aircraft.)
> Once off the ground I had to fly the plane and land. It was a handful
> with the sensitive elevator and bad bank trim - until I got the feel of
> it. I learned enough during my circuits over the field to know how 633Z
> would handle during landing. The EAA flight advisor program and technical
> advisor program helped me a lot. The goal of the first flight is to land
> the airplane safely. Thanks EAA (especially Jim + Geoff Chapter 26, Seattle).
> And thanks to Marvin, my FAA designated Airworthiness Inspector. And thanks
> to my wife Belle, a ground observer + Audin my designated first flight
> photographer.
>
> Now that I know what to expect, the second flight should go more smoothly
> from the start! And I'll have the trim adjusted better for that one.
>
> See an earlier photo of N633Z at:
> http://www.eaa.org/homebuilders/list/Zenith%20Zodiac%20CH%20601%20XL_Edwards.asp
> I may put some first flight pictures on the web after the dust settles.
>
> Whoooowie!!!!!!!!!
>
> Joe Edwards
> N633Z @ AWO
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cortec primer? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: DEGlass1@aol.com
Listers:
I too would like to know the latest on Cortec as a primer. I got a
small sample from our local (200 miles away) distributor; but before it got here
we decided to stay with zinc oxide and chromate, and I haven't tried it. The
reason? The Cortec tech guys couldn't assure me of the longevity of their
protection, even on interior surfaces. They suggested that the 373 molecular bond
lasts only a few (5?) years, and is enhanced some by application of a second
component -- I think the number is 374? I do like the idea of something more
breathing-friendly than chromate, though.
On priming in general, at the rudder workshop last August (warm, with
humidity), Zenith wasn't concerned that our brush-applied Cortec hadn't cured
before we started, and it even peeled off in any location where tape was applied
and removed. So I had many corrosion protection questions left over. Please
help.
This could open a can of worms on the list, but:
- How important is priming an open (non-mating) surface?
- If the zinc in chromate or oxide spray is there as galvanic protection,
isn't application to mating surfaces sufficient? After all, even on a salt water
boat, the consumable zinc anode on the prop unit is very local for wide
galvanic protection. How much zinc does the plane need for good protection? Not
much, I would guess.
- If mating surfaces coatings are important, why don't we worry about
corrosion of unprotected rivets mating with drilled holes?
- Zenith uses Cortec, which has no galvanic component at all.
- We intend the airplane to be handed over to our grandkids, so 5 years
protection isn't very good, and that's all the assurance we can get from Cortec
without the nearly impossible re-treatment.
Thanks for listening. This is a concern that's been bothering me from the
start.
David Glass
Lynchburg, VA
601XL partner: fuse, controls, gear, panel
50% through the fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Static location for 601 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: RiteAngle3@aol.com
The Static port is critical & hard to get correct IF you expect accuracy in
airspeed, altimeter and encoder! I know kit manufactures that have spent
thousands of dollars trying to find the correct location for the static port.
If Zenith shows one go with it, save lots of headaches!
I am working with a mfg. now trying to find new location original was
accurate, but very ugly & damage prone. Using two Airspeed, Altimeter & Static
and
comparing at different speeds, flap configurations etc. LOTS of time involved,
little difference in location makes BIG difference in airspeed, altimeter etc.
Elbie
EM aviation
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thomas F Marson" <tmarson@pressenter.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: <wizard-24@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Bad Back
> I have as y et not built a Zenith XL but have built 3 other designs. I
highly recommend that you take whatever time needed to design and build the
Instrument panel (or maybe 2 subpanels) so they can be easily removed from
the front. Crawling under and working on your back on that uneven surface is
a Pain at best and for someone with physical problems not possible.
The time it takes to design and build it this way in the beginning is well
spent.
Tom Marson
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| Subject: | Re: Cortec primer? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JERICKSON03E@aol.com
In a message dated 4/10/2004 9:39:48 AM Central Daylight Time,
DEGlass1@aol.com writes:
>
> On priming in general, at the rudder workshop last August (warm, with
> humidity), Zenith wasn't concerned that our brush-applied Cortec hadn't
> cured
> before we started, and it even peeled off in any location where tape was
> applied
> and removed. So I had many corrosion protection questions left over.
> Please
> help.
>
At a Chris H workshop, Oshkosh, a few years ago, He said to use Z C Primer
thinned 50%. Clean surface with thinner, and apply thinned Z C with a piece of
natural sponge.
That is the route I'm taking for my 701. [ paint brush & cotton cloth, no
sponge ].
Experience with NAVY aircraft & ARMY helicopters, both with Z C primer, gives
confidence that Z C work's.
Military Q C test for paint adhesion on new production aircraft, was to apply
a strip of 2 in masking tape, rub it on with palm of hand, calibrated of
course, and then rip it off fast. The paint should still be on the AC surface.
No experience with cortex.
Jerry Erickson
701SP, Fuselage in work
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "The Minearts" <smineart@kdsi.net>
Has anyone else found it to be impossible to fit the fiberglass tip snug into the
formed bend of the LE skin? No matter how hard I tried I ended up with a gap.
What would be a good material to fill this gap with?
Steve Mineart
P.S.: sorry for the reply with the whole digest attached the ather day, I'm a little
slow to catch on to this procedure!
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| Subject: | Re: Cortec primer? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: bryanmmartin@comcast.net
Most aircraft aluminum are made of 2021 Alclad which is an aluminum alloy with
a layer of pure aluminum on one side. Pure aluminum is very resistant to corrosion
due to the fact that the oxide layer that forms on its surface seals the
surface against any further corrosion. But pure aluminum is not strong enough
for aircraft structures so various alloys of aluminum are used instead. 2021 is
strong but is prone to corrosion. The alclad surface protects the outside of
the plane from corrosion but the interior surfaces need some other form of corrosion
protection.
Zenith airplanes are made of 6061 T6 aluminum. This is a strong and corrosion resistant
alloy. Unless your plane lives in a corrosive environment (outside near
the ocean for example) your plane will last a long time with no corrosion protection
at all. Most people however, are treating the mating surfaces with some
kind of protection. If any areas will corrode, these are the areas that will
corrode first because they will tend to collect moisture.
If you use zinc chromate on mating surfaces, the coating will also be in close
proximity to the rivets holding the surfaces together. The rivets also have a
galvanized steel stem inside them, the zinc plating on the stem will protect the
rivet from corrosion as well at the steel stem because the zinc is more anodic
than either.
In most cases, in order to have corrosion, you must moisture and an electrolyte
(salt, etc.) present at the corrosion site. The Cortec probably works by sealing
the surfaces against moisture, If you exclude moisture, you will prevent corrosion.
Bryan Martin
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: DEGlass1@aol.com
>
> This could open a can of worms on the list, but:
> - How important is priming an open (non-mating) surface?
> - If the zinc in chromate or oxide spray is there as galvanic protection,
> isn't application to mating surfaces sufficient?
>
> - If mating surfaces coatings are important, why don't we worry about
> corrosion of unprotected rivets mating with drilled holes?
> - Zenith uses Cortec, which has no galvanic component at all.
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| Subject: | RVbuilder.....but i like the 640 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matthew Mucker" <matthew@mucker.net>
Michael,
I am catching up with about a year's worth of Zenith list emails that have
accumulated while life was doing other things to me.
I'm going to scratchbuild a CH640. Don't know if this is still relevant to
you or not but feel free to correspond.
-Matt
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> michael michael
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 6:04 PM
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: RVbuilder.....but i like the 640
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "michael michael"
> <top_gun_toronto@hotmail.com>
>
> I would like to corespond with anyone doing a scratch build
> of the zenair
> kits
> I`m very intrested in the 640.
>
> If you do scratch build how much do you save off kit price.?
> Are the plans scratch build friendly....do you have to scale
> up rib outlines
> or do you get them 1:1 scale & transfer to a forming block?
>
> any other tidbits of info is welcome.
>
> Michael in toronto.
>
>
> >From: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
> >Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> >To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: RVbuilder.....but i like the 640
> >Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:23:04 -0500
> >
> >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland"
> <larrymc@qconline.com>
> >
> >
> > > I`m intrested in the 640. & would love to build it if it was more
> >inline.
> > > with what else is on the market. or offered more.
> Prpunching goes a very
> > > long way to swaying my mind...
> > >
> > > can you builders tell me what its like to measure all
> your holes...is it
> > > easy? hard....do you make alot of mistakes.
> > >
> > > I would like to build the 640. I`m in toronto only 60
> miles from head
> > > office....but
> > >
> > > The RV-7 & 640 weight almost the same. meaning there is
> the same amount
> >of
> > > metal in both.
> > > But the 640 is about $7000.00 more & not a prepunched
> hole to be seen...
> > >
> > > I realy like the 640. But its a matter of money &
> skill......What i dont
> > > understand is why the 640 is so much money.....there is no
> >prepunching....
> > > How does VAN`s make his kits so cheap.
> > >
> >Michael,
> >Van's has invested heavily in really good tooling and
> machinery on the cusp
> >of knowing he has a large buyer and repeat buyer base.
> Price comes down
> >quickly with quantity and the confidence expressed by that guarantees
> >success.
> >
> >No, the principal problem with measuring holes is the use of
> a straight
> >edge
> >prepunched to the pitch you want and checking against start point and
> >interval
> >of the crimps on the panels, ribs etc. Never drill
> freehand. Always know
> >where
> >your centerlines are get that interval measured from the
> part beneath on
> >the
> >strip template
> >and verify before you drill the ink marks placed thru your
> template. Then
> >nearly all the
> >holes will be in a straight line and at the same spacing on
> the panels.
> >
> >There's no reason to make mistakes, tho I've drilled 3 or 4
> that restarted
> >my rudder
> >early on by being in a hurry to drill freehand. When you
> screw it up, just
> >do it over.
> >
> >Larry C. McFarland - 601hds at www.macsmachine.com
> >
> >
>
>
> ==========
> ==========
> ==========
> ==========
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Schoenberger" <hrs1@frontiernet.net>
Threaded pipe fittings for the legs of the table will enable you to change
the pipes that are used for the legs and hence the table height. Works for
me. Robert Schoenberger 701. Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: <ZSMITH3rd@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Bad Back
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: ZSMITH3rd@aol.com
>
> One of the cures for this problem is the work table.
> Even if you have a perfect back and workout with weights daily, standing
in a
> half-stooped knuckle-dragging crouch is NOT comfortable.
> Suggest you make the work table the height of your elbows.
> This may look too high, but try it. You can always cut the legs off.
> Zed/701/R912/9x% do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cortec primer? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Schoenberger" <hrs1@frontiernet.net>
Kevin , , , my instructions said to thin with water. ZAC sells small
qualtities of the clear, but I don't believe they have the green. I had my
paint store try to add some green, but the results weren't as nice as the
Zinc Chromate, so I just use the clear. After a while one gets used to and
likes the sheen of the clear. FWIW. Robert Schoenberger 701
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin W Bonds" <kbonds@worldshare.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Cortec primer?
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Kevin W Bonds" <kbonds@worldshare.net>
>
> What is the latest on the primer debate? I have read all the archives and
have determined that I want 373 in green--thin with hardware grade denatured
alcohol. Where can I get some in small quantity (quart or 1 gallon)?.
>
> Kevin Bonds
> Nashville, Tn
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Schoenberger" <hrs1@frontiernet.net>
List . . . I'm building a 701 and I don't know whether this applies to your problem
with the rear rib. On the first wing I used a scriber set at 10 mm and ran
it along the sharp edge of the rib flanges to get the rivet line. When I went
to put on the skin I found the predrilled holes did not match up with these
lines. Came to find out that the flanges are not equal in width and hence it's
impossible for the centerlines marked on them to line up.
On the second wing which I'm building now, I set the scriber for about 8 - 9 mm
and ran it along the flat side of the rib for all flanges to be riveted which
insures that these rivet centerlines will line up.
Robert Schoenberger 701 tail done - working on the wings. .
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan knezacek" <dknezace@bconnex.net>
After climbing into the back of the fuselage a couple of times I found that
Zenair had put an access hatch in the back of the CH2000.
I copied it except that I hinged it at the front and it eased access to the
back. But mine is an HD, perhaps they've added this to the plans for the
XL?
Dan Knezacek
CH-601HD power by EA81 soob
----- Original Message -----
From: <wizard-24@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Bad Back
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: wizard-24@juno.com
>
>
> As one that often suffers from the occasional flare-up of a bad back due
> to herniated discs, I have to warn you.....there is a need to become
> somewhat of a contortionist in the later building stages. There's no way
> to avoid having to crawl into that rear fuselage or behind the instrument
> panel to install something you forgot to do earlier, or to add something
> you feel you want. This is not to say that it is impossible -- quite the
> contrary, if you plan ahead (with bad back in mind), you can certainly
> handle it. Also, you could recruit help for those instances where your
> back prevents you from doing it yourself.
>
> Oh, and don't forget about the seats....lots and lots of temperfoam. :)
>
> Mike Fortunato
> 601XL
>
>
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| Subject: | 601 HD access hatch |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "George Swinford" <grs-pms@comcast.net>
---- Original Message -----
From: "Dan knezacek" <dknezace@bconnex.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Bad Back
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan knezacek" <dknezace@bconnex.net>
>
> After climbing into the back of the fuselage a couple of times I found
that
> Zenair had put an access hatch in the back of the CH2000.
>
> I copied it except that I hinged it at the front and it eased access to
the
> back. But mine is an HD, perhaps they've added this to the plans for the
> XL?
>
> Dan Knezacek
> CH-601HD power by EA81 soob
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <wizard-24@juno.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Bad Back
>
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: wizard-24@juno.com
> >
> >
> > As one that often suffers from the occasional flare-up of a bad back due
> > to herniated discs, I have to warn you.....there is a need to become
> > somewhat of a contortionist in the later building stages. There's no way
> > to avoid having to crawl into that rear fuselage or behind the
instrument
> > panel to install something you forgot to do earlier, or to add something
> > you feel you want. This is not to say that it is impossible -- quite the
> > contrary, if you plan ahead (with bad back in mind), you can certainly
> > handle it. Also, you could recruit help for those instances where your
> > back prevents you from doing it yourself.
> >
> > Oh, and don't forget about the seats....lots and lots of temperfoam. :)
> >
> > Mike Fortunato
> > 601XL
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Access Hatch in 601 fuselage |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "George Swinford" <grs-pms@comcast.net>
A question for Dan Knezacek:
Where did you locate the access hatch? Sounds like a good idea.
George Swinford
Do not archive
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "George Swinford" <grs-pms@comcast.net>
An access hatch in the rear fuselage sounds like a good idea. Any opinions on the
best location?
George Swinford
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| Subject: | 601 fuselage access hatch |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "George Swinford" <grs-pms@comcast.net>
An access hatch in the aft fuselage sounds like a real back saver. Any opinions
on the best location?
George Swinford.
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL wing tips |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Wayne Glasser" <ku-tec@bigpond.net.au>
You are not alone with your problem, mine were so bad that filling was not
an option.
I fitted them in place the best I could, filled the gaps with 'body filler'
took a mould of the resulting shape and then made a new tip that actually
fitted.
The annoying part is that ZAC would only have to do this once and everyone
would have fiberglass tips that fitted instead we all have to suffer along
with their reputation.
Do not archive.
Wayne Glasser
Sydney - Australia
CH601-XL 5075
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "The Minearts" <smineart@kdsi.net>
>
> Has anyone else found it to be impossible to fit the fiberglass tip snug
into the formed bend of the LE skin? No matter how hard I tried I ended up
with a gap. What would be a good material to fill this gap with?
> Steve Mineart
> P.S.: sorry for the reply with the whole digest attached the ather day,
I'm a little slow to catch on to this procedure!
> do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cortec primer? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com
Excellent answer Mr. Martin
Thank you
Warming up the spray gun
Joe Motis
601 XL wings
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| Subject: | Re: Access Hatch in 601 fuselage |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com
Also pictures?
Great Idea!
Thanks,
Joe Motis
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| Subject: | Re: 601 fuselage access hatch |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Howerton" <Bill@Howerton.com>
I just went out and took a look at my fuselage, and took some measurements.
There are really three places that makes sense. Those are between the 4th
and 5th or the 5th and 6th ribs (counting from the back forward) -- aft of
the cargo floor, or between the 6th and 7th ribs -- underneath the cargo
floor.
Between the 4th and 5th as well as the 5th and 6th, The maximum size it
could be would be about 14 inches wide, and 15 inches high. It would give
you decent access to the rear fuselage area, but not to anything forward of
that such as the rear frame channel (6B5-2) and the flap actuator rod
assemblies. To gain access to those, you really need to place an access
panel between the 6th and 7th ribs -- underneath the cargo floor.
Unfortunately, there the access panel couldn't be any more than 13 inches
high.
Either way, I'd want to hear for Nick or Chris Heinz before doing anything
like that. The access panel might be a decent idea, but I'd want to flow it
through them first.
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "George Swinford" <grs-pms@comcast.net>
>
> An access hatch in the aft fuselage sounds like a real back saver. Any
opinions on the best location?
>
> George Swinford.
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave & Darlene" <dnimigon@telusplanet.net>
Just need you Canadian guys to give me your thoughts on the primer that Canadian
Tire sells. It's the Motomaster Aluminum Primer. It says on the spray can
that it replaces Zinc Chromate. It's yellow in colour. I want to do what's best
for my XL
David Nimigon
Seba Beach
Alberta
Plans building a 601XL
scrounging up materials
1% done 99% to go
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Wayne Glasser" <ku-tec@bigpond.net.au>
There is a product I and some friends are using in Australia that I don't
recall ever seeing mentioned here before. It's called 44-GN-36 and is made
by Deft Finishes in the US.
It is a 2 pak primer that is water thinned and water cleanup. I started out
using genuine Zinc Chromate but the problem is the very long time it takes
to cure. The Deft product is touchable in an hour and fully set overnight.
Wayne Glasser
Sydney - Australia
CH601-XL 5075
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave & Darlene" <dnimigon@telusplanet.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Primer
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave & Darlene"
<dnimigon@telusplanet.net>
>
> Just need you Canadian guys to give me your thoughts on the primer that
Canadian Tire sells. It's the Motomaster Aluminum Primer. It says on the
spray can that it replaces Zinc Chromate. It's yellow in colour. I want to
do what's best for my XL
>
> David Nimigon
> Seba Beach
> Alberta
>
> Plans building a 601XL
> scrounging up materials
> 1% done 99% to go
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 601 fuselage access hatch |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan knezacek" <dknezace@bconnex.net>
I did a drawing and got approval from Chris, but that was several years ago.
It seems to me that other's on the list did one as well around that time.
I'll have a look and, if I can find it, I'll send a copy to anyone who is
interested.
Dan Knezacek
CH601 HD EA81 soob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Howerton" <Bill@Howerton.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601 fuselage access hatch
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Howerton" <Bill@Howerton.com>
>
> I just went out and took a look at my fuselage, and took some
measurements.
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| Subject: | Re: 601Access hatch |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Cleone Markwell <cleone@rr1.net>
George, I put one on the left side, but if I were doing it again I would
use one in each of two bottom panels. Cleone
At 04:28 PM 4/10/04, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "George Swinford" <grs-pms@comcast.net>
>
>An access hatch in the rear fuselage sounds like a good idea. Any opinions
>on the best location?
>
>George Swinford
>
>
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