Zenith-List Digest Archive

Fri 04/16/04


Total Messages Posted: 37



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:42 AM - Cabin heat radiator (Grant Corriveau)
     2. 03:35 AM - Re: Access Hatch in 601 fuselage (Randall Stout)
     3. 05:56 AM - Re: Tubeless(?) Tires (Thomas F Marson)
     4. 06:00 AM - Re: Cabin heat radiator (Larry Martin)
     5. 06:07 AM - Re: N801ZA  (Gary Liming)
     6. 06:07 AM - Re: Laser cutting 6061T6 (Carlos Sa)
     7. 06:10 AM - Re: nose wheel control rods (Gary Liming)
     8. 06:30 AM - Re: Laser cutting 6061T6 (Jari Kaija)
     9. 06:31 AM - Re: N801ZA  (Benford2@aol.com)
    10. 06:48 AM - Re: Cabin heat radiator (Rick)
    11. 06:50 AM - Nose wheel valve stem (Frank Jones)
    12. 07:22 AM - Re: Sun N Fun Attendees (Scott Laughlin)
    13. 07:33 AM - Re: Laser cutting 6061T6 (tongaloa)
    14. 08:15 AM - Re: Rudder centering materials (John)
    15. 08:35 AM - Re: Laser cutting 6061T6 ()
    16. 09:07 AM - Elevator trim tab (john H)
    17. 09:20 AM - Re: Nose wheel valve stem (bryanmmartin@comcast.net)
    18. 10:09 AM - 601 nose wheel control rods (George Swinford)
    19. 10:31 AM - Re: Insurance costs (royt.or@netzero.com)
    20. 11:00 AM - Re: Elevator trim tab (Steve Freeman)
    21. 11:08 AM - Re: Re: Insurance costs (HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1))
    22. 12:07 PM - Re: nose wheel control rods (Dan knezacek)
    23. 12:10 PM - Re: nose wheel control rods (Dan knezacek)
    24. 12:17 PM - Re: Laser cutting 6061T6 (Dan knezacek)
    25. 12:18 PM - Re: 601 nose wheel control rods (Dan knezacek)
    26. 12:54 PM - Re: nose wheel control rods - part # (Carlos Sa)
    27. 01:09 PM - Re: Elevator trim tab (Scott Laughlin)
    28. 01:18 PM - Re: Re: nose wheel control rods ()
    29. 01:56 PM - Re: nose wheel control rods (Benford2@aol.com)
    30. 02:23 PM -  Re: nose wheel control rods (Jim Frisby)
    31. 02:30 PM - messy job simplified: Lycoming oil screen  (Jim Frisby)
    32. 03:55 PM - Re: Cabin heat radiator (ZSMITH3rd@aol.com)
    33. 05:50 PM - Re: Nose wheel valve stem (wizard-24@juno.com)
    34. 08:18 PM - Re: Re: nose wheel control rods (Jack Russell)
    35. 08:19 PM - Re: Elevator trim tab (john H)
    36. 08:35 PM - Re: Test Pilot (pchapman@ionsys.com)
    37. 09:20 PM - Steering rod boot pt. nos. at Yamaha Snomobilllllllle (ZSMITH3rd@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:42:44 AM PST US
    Subject: Cabin heat radiator
    From: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net> I'm installing a cabin heater radiator - I think it's from a Ford Escort? Not sure. However, one tube to the rad is of a larger diameter than the other. Can someone let me know if the larger tube is the rad. inlet or outlet? thanks -- Grant Corriveau C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100


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    Time: 03:35:32 AM PST US
    From: Randall Stout <n282rs@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Access Hatch in 601 fuselage
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Randall Stout <n282rs@sbcglobal.net> Or you can just clamp the metal to the edge of your workbench with about 1/2" + or - hanging over the edge. Then run a gloved hand over it to make the crease. Randy Stout - San Antonio n282rs@sbcglobal.net www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21 Thomas F Marson <tmarson@pressenter.com> wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thomas F Marson" Yes this is a technique that lots of RV builders and others use. A simple hand tool with two rollers slightly offset from each other and pull the aluminum thru it. It makes this nice looking crease. Some buy the tool and some just buy to shower door rollers and mount them on a piece of .060, 6061 T6. That tool is available from lots of suppliers like Avery and others. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Laughlin" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Access Hatch in 601 fuselage > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin"


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    Time: 05:56:36 AM PST US
    From: "Thomas F Marson" <tmarson@pressenter.com>
    Subject: Re: Tubeless(?) Tires
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thomas F Marson" <tmarson@pressenter.com> Tubes is are the standard solution for light aircraft wheel. Tom Marson > > > > > the rims or should I go shopping for some tubes? > > Has anyone else encountered this? My gut feel says go get some tubes. > > > > Larry Wood > > (N701LW reserved) > > > > Do Not Archive > > > >


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    Time: 06:00:57 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Martin" <earthloc@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Cabin heat radiator
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <earthloc@att.net> OUT, Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grant Corriveau" <grantc@ca.inter.net> Subject: Zenith-List: Cabin heat radiator > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net> > > I'm installing a cabin heater radiator - I think it's from a Ford Escort? > Not sure. However, one tube to the rad is of a larger diameter than the > other. Can someone let me know if the larger tube is the rad. inlet or > outlet? > > thanks > -- > Grant Corriveau > C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100 > > ---


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    Time: 06:07:22 AM PST US
    From: Gary Liming <gary@liming.org>
    Subject: Re: N801ZA
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Liming <gary@liming.org> At 08:46 PM 4/15/2004 -0800, you wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Frisby" <n801za@hotmail.com> > >To all. > >Today I got the official airworthiness certificate from an Anchorage FSDO >rep. Taxi and "in ground effect" tests indicate good handling >characteristics. I plan to take it around the pattern tomorrow. Watch this >space for flight report. > >Thanks to all participants in the Zenith matronics list, I have gathered >many hints from builders of 801s and other models from reading your >discussions. > >Jim Frisby >N801ZA >Palmer, Alaska >Finished and almost flying... Way to go, Jim! Good luck with her, and take it easy. Looking forward to the flight test pirep! Gary Liming


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    Time: 06:07:59 AM PST US
    From: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Laser cutting 6061T6
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com> Greg, I'm curious: what kind of paper and printer did you use? Thanks Carlos do not archive > You could have it laser cut. I was going to have my panel laser cut, but > after spending many hours drawing it exactly how I wanted it in Autocad, I > was quoted over $300 to have it done. I had been given a ballpark of $100. > Making the file was good for planning though. I ended-up printing the file > at 1:1 and using it as a template for cutting the panel myself. > > Greg F.


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    Time: 06:10:07 AM PST US
    From: Gary Liming <gary@liming.org>
    Subject: Re: nose wheel control rods
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Liming <gary@liming.org> At 11:16 PM 4/15/2004 -0400, you wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net> > >on 4/15/04 5:22 PM, Dan knezacek at dknezace@bconnex.net wrote: > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan knezacek" <dknezace@bconnex.net> > > > > I'm just wondering what people are doing for the slots in the firewall > where > > the nose wheel push rods go through the firewall? > > > > > > Is there any off the shelf item that might work? Several of us 801 builders are using some rubber boots that are from a Yamaha snowmobile (!) that work just fine. They attach on the inside of the firewall and form a seal. If that sounds like something that would work for you, let me know and I'll send you pictures. Gary Liming


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    Time: 06:30:37 AM PST US
    From: "Jari Kaija" <jari.kaija@pp.inet.fi>
    Subject: Re: Laser cutting 6061T6
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jari Kaija" <jari.kaija@pp.inet.fi> > You could have it laser cut. I was going to have my panel laser cut, but > after spending many hours drawing it exactly how I wanted it in Autocad, I Really? How about laser beam temperature? 6061-T6 IS NOT anymore T6, when it's temperature raises over aprx. 100 degrees celsius. -Jari Kaija http://www.project-ch701.net


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    Time: 06:31:13 AM PST US
    From: Benford2@aol.com
    Subject: Re: N801ZA
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com In a message dated 4/16/2004 7:08:05 AM Mountain Daylight Time, gary@liming.org writes: > Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Frisby" <n801za@hotmail.com> > > > >To all. > > > >Today I got the official airworthiness certificate from an Anchorage FSDO > >rep. Taxi and "in ground effect" tests indicate good handling > >characteristics. I plan to take it around the pattern tomorrow. Watch > this > >space for flight report. > > > >Thanks to all participants in the Zenith matronics list, I have gathered > >many hints from builders of 801s and other models from reading your > >discussions. > > > >Jim Frisby > >N801ZA > Same here, I will call the local plastic surgeon to be standing by to get that 801 grin off your face.. Ben Haas N801BH.


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    Time: 06:48:19 AM PST US
    From: Rick <rick.pitcher@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Cabin heat radiator
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick <rick.pitcher@verizon.net> Grant Corriveau wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net> > > I'm installing a cabin heater radiator - I think it's from a Ford Escort? > Not sure. However, one tube to the rad is of a larger diameter than the > other. Can someone let me know if the larger tube is the rad. inlet or > outlet? > > thanks The return line is always larger than the pressure line in any hydraulic system. I suppose that applies to liquid cooling systems too, so use the larger tube as the return (outlet). Rick P..


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    Time: 06:50:01 AM PST US
    From: "Frank Jones" <fjones@sympatico.ca>
    Subject: Nose wheel valve stem
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Frank Jones" <fjones@sympatico.ca> I'm curious to know how others have solved this problem. The supplied tube for the 601XL (at least the one supplied when I got my kit) has a valve stem that would interfere with the front wheel forks. In my case it needed to be cut so it wouldn't hit the fork. In order to do this I removed the valve, cut the stem shorter and tapped the valve thread deeper. I had a heck of a time finding the right tap, something like a #12-36 thread. Anyway, this basically works but my value has a slow leak due to poor seating of the valve stem. I've got to refill my front tire every week or so. Are there any other better solutions out there? Frank Jones Ottawa C-GYXQ 601XL


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    Time: 07:22:03 AM PST US
    From: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Sun N Fun Attendees
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com> Brent: It was great meeting you in the sheet metal shop this week. Thanks for the tips on solid rivets. I just have one question for you. You said you flew the factory demo XL to SnF? When I saw it, there was a large scratch on the left wing, the landing lights were busted out and the wingtip had a big dent! Did you try to fly through a barn or something? I'm just giving you a hard time - Nick H. told me the Lancair tent blew across the street and landed on the wing! I think he is going to duct tape it back together and ask you to fly it home. Make sure he flies it first! Have a safe trip home. It was nice meeting you and thanks again for the time you spent with me in the sheet metal shop. It was a real learning experience! Scott Laughlin www.cooknwithgas.com Do Not Archive ----Original Message Follows---- --> Zenith-List message posted by: Brenton Battles <brentbattles@charter.net> I'll be there for the full week, but not in my own airplane. Working in the Sheet Metal Shop. Got lucky, getting a request to fly the factory demo XL to SNF. Brent Battles


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    Time: 07:33:04 AM PST US
    From: tongaloa <tongaloa@alltel.net>
    Subject: Re: Laser cutting 6061T6
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: tongaloa <tongaloa@alltel.net> Jari Kaija wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jari Kaija" <jari.kaija@pp.inet.fi> > > > >>You could have it laser cut. I was going to have my panel laser cut, but >>after spending many hours drawing it exactly how I wanted it in Autocad, I >> >> > > Really? How about laser beam temperature? 6061-T6 IS NOT anymore T6, >when >it's temperature raises over aprx. 100 degrees celsius. > >-Jari Kaija > Here are some photos of laser cut 6061 T-6 if you want to look at the edges. Select 'original' for most detail. Let me know if you need a set of R2 skins :-) http://photos.edebris.com/catalog/item/779 -bob


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    Time: 08:15:44 AM PST US
    From: "John" <jlifer@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Rudder centering materials
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "John" <jlifer@bellsouth.net> Hi guys, I'll try and answer a few of your questions about the materials listed. The UHMW performs very similar to a cheap teflon. It is the next slickest material that offers the least friction. I would suggest sticking with it for the rudder centering. The cutting boards at *mart or W**mart are either HDPE or Polypropylene. They would perform fairly well, but not as good. The Delrin or Acetal material is not a low friction material, but is stronger in deflection. I wouldn't suggest this would be a good place for it's use. John back from Wet and Windy SNF.


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    Time: 08:35:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Laser cutting 6061T6
    From: <george.pinneo@ngc.com>
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: <george.pinneo@ngc.com> Laser beam cutting doesn't heat aluminum: it's a cold process, despite how hard that is to accept! GGP


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    Time: 09:07:44 AM PST US
    From: "john H" <professor71@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Elevator trim tab
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "john H" <professor71@hotmail.com> Hi list. I have gone through the archives and have been unable to find any final consensus on the width of the elevator trim tab for the 601. I understand from what I have read that the original width is to wide and is to sensitive. Has anyone figured out an actual width that works well? Thanks John From must-see cities to the best beaches, plan a getaway with the Spring Travel Guide!


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    Time: 09:20:38 AM PST US
    From: bryanmmartin@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Nose wheel valve stem
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: bryanmmartin@comcast.net I recieved a Matco wheel for my nose gear, it had the hole for the valve stem in one of the wheel halves putting it off center. I found it very difficult to thread the valve stem of my nose wheel tube through the hole in the matco rim and even if I did it would cause the tube to be twisted in the wheel as it seems the tube is designed to have the valve stem centered. I think I would have had the same problem as you if I had used that hole. However, I noticed that the Grove main wheels had the hole for the valve stem in the center of the wheel (a half circle cutout on each half of the wheel). So, I put the two halves of the Matco wheel together and drilled a new hole in the center where the two halves come together and plugged the original hole with epoxy. Now the tube goes in easily and the stem is centered and clear of the fork. I think the off-center valve stem hole is a design flaw in the Matco wheel or it is designed for a different type of tube. One more reason I wasn't too impressed with the Matco wheel. I don't know how well the epoxy plug will hold up in use as the plane is'nt finished yet but it is holding up with pressure in the tire. Bryan Martin > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Frank Jones" <fjones@sympatico.ca> > > I'm curious to know how others have solved this problem. The supplied > tube for the 601XL (at least the one supplied when I got my kit) has a > valve stem that would interfere with the front wheel forks. In my case > > Frank Jones > Ottawa > C-GYXQ 601XL


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    Time: 10:09:00 AM PST US
    From: "George Swinford" <grs-pms@comcast.net>
    Subject: 601 nose wheel control rods
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "George Swinford" <grs-pms@comcast.net> I am using a setup similar to Brian Martin's, except I replaced the threaded pushrods with hardware store steel rods threaded on one end to take the ball joint fittings. I had a tab welded on the other end to attach to the rudder pedals. George Swinford


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    Time: 10:31:55 AM PST US
    Subject: RE: Insurance costs
    From: royt.or@netzero.com
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: royt.or@netzero.com I recently renewed my policy. $1368 for second year. My first year cost $1517. This is through AIG/AOPA with EAA and/or AOPA discount. First and second year coverage was for $1M liability, $100K/seat, ?? deductible, $50K hull, in flight, in motion, taxing (basically everything covered) Data at the time of renewal was: 815 total hours, 165 hours in last 12 months, 155 hours in type. No other changes from first year. The first year insurance with 650 hours; private pilot; instrument rating; 0 logged hours in type; no accidents, claims etc; 25+ hours in the last 12 months. Regards, Roy N601RT: CH601HDS, nose gear, Rotax 912ULS, All electric, IFR equipped, 186hrs, 265 landings


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    Time: 11:00:17 AM PST US
    From: "Steve Freeman" <stefree@qwest.net>
    Subject: Re: Elevator trim tab
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Steve Freeman" <stefree@qwest.net> Many people have trimmed this to suit their own needs. To the best of my recollection there is not a set width. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "john H" <professor71@hotmail.com> Subject: Zenith-List: Elevator trim tab > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "john H" <professor71@hotmail.com> > > > Hi list. I have gone through the archives and have been unable to find any final consensus on the width of the elevator trim tab for the 601. I understand from what I have read that the original width is to wide and is to sensitive. Has anyone figured out an actual width that works well? > > > Thanks > > > John > > > From must-see cities to the best beaches, plan a getaway with the Spring Travel Guide! > >


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    Time: 11:08:48 AM PST US
    From: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
    Subject: RE: Insurance costs
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" <frank.hinde@hp.com> Ouch! Frank Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of royt.or@netzero.com Subject: Zenith-List: RE: Insurance costs --> Zenith-List message posted by: royt.or@netzero.com I recently renewed my policy. $1368 for second year. My first year cost $1517. This is through AIG/AOPA with EAA and/or AOPA discount. First and second year coverage was for $1M liability, $100K/seat, ?? deductible, $50K hull, in flight, in motion, taxing (basically everything covered) Data at the time of renewal was: 815 total hours, 165 hours in last 12 months, 155 hours in type. No other changes from first year. The first year insurance with 650 hours; private pilot; instrument rating; 0 logged hours in type; no accidents, claims etc; 25+ hours in the last 12 months. Regards, Roy N601RT: CH601HDS, nose gear, Rotax 912ULS, All electric, IFR equipped, 186hrs, 265 landings advertising on the Matronics Forums.


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    Time: 12:07:47 PM PST US
    From: "Dan knezacek" <dknezace@bconnex.net>
    Subject: Re: nose wheel control rods
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan knezacek" <dknezace@bconnex.net> Ben, Do you have any idea of what was the original application of those boots? I went to a Yamaha motorcycle dealer and showed him the pics. He had no idea what they were off but most likely not a bike. I did find the pics at; http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/Benford2@aol.com.03.08.2003/index.html They look like the would do perfectly. I wasn't able to find any part numbers on the archives. They may be there, I'm just new to searching them. Dan > > > I assume the 601 slots are about the same size as the 801. If so look into > the Matronics archives and I posted a source for covers that work great in my > 801. Yahama boots. I forgot the part numbers though. > > Ben Haas N801BH > >


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    Time: 12:10:40 PM PST US
    From: "Dan knezacek" <dknezace@bconnex.net>
    Subject: Re: nose wheel control rods
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan knezacek" <dknezace@bconnex.net> Hi Gary, That sounds like the one Ben was talking about. Would you have a part number? Or even the year and model of sled it's from? Thanks Dan do not archive > > Several of us 801 builders are using some rubber boots that are from a > Yamaha snowmobile (!) that work just fine. They attach on the inside of > the firewall and form a seal. If that sounds like something that would > work for you, let me know and I'll send you pictures. > > Gary Liming >


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    Time: 12:17:04 PM PST US
    From: "Dan knezacek" <dknezace@bconnex.net>
    Subject: Re: Laser cutting 6061T6
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan knezacek" <dknezace@bconnex.net> I don't know about laser cutting of aluminum, but I know laser cutting of steel does burn the edge. It hardens the steel at the edge for a few thousandths of an inch. Perhaps water cutting would leave a better edge? Morgan at Custom Flight Components uses water cutting for his parts. http://www.customflightltd.com/ I don't know how common it is but I'll bet if you do a google search for "water cutting" or "water jet cutting"you would find some shops that do it. Dan Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Laser cutting 6061T6 > --> Zenith-List message posted by: <george.pinneo@ngc.com> > > Laser beam cutting doesn't heat aluminum: it's a cold process, despite how hard that is to accept! > > GGP >


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    Time: 12:18:51 PM PST US
    From: "Dan knezacek" <dknezace@bconnex.net>
    Subject: Re: 601 nose wheel control rods
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan knezacek" <dknezace@bconnex.net> George, Do you have any pictures? Dan > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "George Swinford" <grs-pms@comcast.net> > > I am using a setup similar to Brian Martin's, except I replaced the threaded pushrods with hardware store steel rods threaded on one end to take the ball joint fittings. I had a tab welded on the other end to attach to the rudder pedals. > > George Swinford >


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    Time: 12:54:46 PM PST US
    From: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: nose wheel control rods - part #
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com> From fotoshare: "This is a two part deal with the bellows to follow the rod travel and the plates to fasten the boots to the firewall. These are from a 2001 Mountian Max snowmobile so you guys down south will get some REAL strange looks from the Yamaha parts counter guy. The boot part number is Yam: 8CR-2198F-00-00 and is labeled a "cover". The plane # is Yam: 8CR2195E-00-00. " --- Dan knezacek <dknezace@bconnex.net> wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan knezacek" <dknezace@bconnex.net> > > Ben, > > Do you have any idea of what was the original application of those boots? I > went to a Yamaha motorcycle dealer and showed him the pics. He had no idea > what they were off but most likely not a bike. > > I did find the pics at; > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/Benford2@aol.com.03.08.2003/index.html > > They look like the would do perfectly. > > I wasn't able to find any part numbers on the archives. They may be there, > I'm just new to searching them. > > Dan


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    Time: 01:09:55 PM PST US
    From: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Elevator trim tab
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com> Hi John: My 601XL plans call for a width of 415 mm so that's the way I built it. Earlier this week while I was at Sun'n Fun I found a 601XL in front of the EAA tent that had to be the best constructed 601XL I have seen to date. It turns out this airplane was constructed in the Czech Republic (according to Nick H.). The elevator trim on this airplane was extremely wide - wider than I have ever seen. Here's a photo of that trim tab: http://www.cooknwithgas.com/CzechTrimTab.JPG Note the rain on the airplane - the weather was not the greatest. Perhaps an email to Czech Aircraft Works at aircraft@czaw.cz would be in order to find out why their elevator trim tabs are so large. Scott Laughlin www.cooknwithgas.com From must-see cities to the best beaches, plan a getaway with the Spring


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    Time: 01:18:44 PM PST US
    From: <jlatimer1@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: nose wheel control rods
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: <jlatimer1@cox.net> > > > Do you have any idea of what was the original application of those boots? I believe it was used in a snowmobile. Jerry Latimer do not archive


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    Time: 01:56:36 PM PST US
    From: Benford2@aol.com
    Subject: Re: nose wheel control rods
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com In a message dated 4/16/2004 1:08:43 PM Mountain Daylight Time, dknezace@bconnex.net writes: > Ben, > > Do you have any idea of what was the original application of those boots? I > went to a Yamaha motorcycle dealer and showed him the pics. He had no idea > what they were off but most likely not a bike. > > I did find the pics at; > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/Benford2@aol.com.03.08.2003/index.html > > They look like the would do perfectly. > > I wasn't able to find any part numbers on the archives. They may be there, > I'm just new to searching them. > > There are for a 99 and up snowmobile. Believe it or not but the do the same function as we need to. If you live down south like some people and ya go into a yamaha dealer asking for them you will get really strange looks. Ha. In those pics on the matronics list Jim Frisby put a little write up about them. It also might be in Gary Limings web site too. If not let me know and I will dig through my receipts and get ya the numbers. They do fit and work perfect...... Ben Haas


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    Time: 02:23:19 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Frisby" <n801za@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: nose wheel control rods
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Frisby" <n801za@hotmail.com> I didn't like the baffle material idea too much on my 801 either. I elected to enclose the lower bearing and rod connections in an aluminum box. It has a baffle material "gasket" around the nose gear strut, the box is attached to the front of the firewall with screws and nut plates, so it can be removed to service or inspect the rod ends. Additionally, I put the baffle material on the back of the firewall where the rods go thru, I slitted the material for the vertical motion of the rods, then made a round hole along the slit to allow the baffle to close when the rod is in flying position. It was a lot of work, but seems very nearly air tight, and should give pretty good protection in case of fire. >From: "Dan knezacek" <dknezace@bconnex.net> >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: nose wheel control rods > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan knezacek" <dknezace@bconnex.net> > >I'm just wondering what people are doing for the slots in the firewall >where >the nose wheel push rods go through the firewall? > >I originally had leather boots on there but after 24 hours they were >cracked. > >I don't like the zenair way of just having a piece of baffle material with >a >slot in it. After a short period of time you have a permanent hole by your >feet. > >Is there any off the shelf item that might work? > >Dan Knezacek >CH 601HD EA81 soob (reductions re-drive) >Do not archive Lose those love handles! MSN Fitness shows you two moves to slim your waist. http://fitness.msn.com/articles/feeds/article.aspx?dept=exercise&article=et_pv_030104_lovehandles


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    Time: 02:30:00 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Frisby" <n801za@hotmail.com>
    Subject: messy job simplified: Lycoming oil screen
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Frisby" <n801za@hotmail.com> I don't know how many on the list have lycoming engines, but I for one have always hated the job of cleaning the oil screen. Of course, the problem is oil running down the back of the engine and making a mess of the engine compartment. One solution is to install a remote or angled oil filter adapter, but that adds weight and $$$. Yesterday, It was time to change the oil once again. I went to NAPA and got some 99 cent oil absorbing blankets (about 16x20"). I took about half of one, tucked it up under the screen housing, before removing the oil temp probe and the housing. Viola, that small piece of material absorbed all the oil before it could run anywhere. Well worth the 99 cents. N801ZA Palmer, AK


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    Time: 03:55:28 PM PST US
    From: ZSMITH3rd@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Cabin heat radiator
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: ZSMITH3rd@aol.com Won't make any difference. Small hole will determine how warm you get. Zed/701/R912/90.xx% do not archive


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    Time: 05:50:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Nose wheel valve stem
    From: wizard-24@juno.com
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: wizard-24@juno.com > tube for the 601XL (at least the one supplied when I got my kit) has > a valve stem that would interfere with the front wheel forks. I was concerned with that too, until I installed the whole assembly. Now the wheel will spin and the stem (with cap installed) will barely miss the fork, although there is probably only about 2mm clearance. It's been a while since I installed it, but if I recall I carefully bent the stem slightly. Mike Fortunato 601XL


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    Time: 08:18:03 PM PST US
    From: Jack Russell <clojan@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: nose wheel control rods
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Jack Russell <clojan@sbcglobal.net> I used these boots and they work perfect. Yamaha part # 8cr2198f-00-00 and 8cr-2195e-00-00. One # is for the boot and the other for the metal mounting ring. I did a search for yamaha snowmobile parts and found several sites that had them. Jack Russell jlatimer1@cox.net wrote:--> Zenith-List message posted by: > > > Do you have any idea of what was the original application of those boots? I believe it was used in a snowmobile. Jerry Latimer do not archive


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    Time: 08:19:34 PM PST US
    From: "john H" <professor71@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Elevator trim tab
    QUARANTINE_LEVEL=4.0 KILL_LEVEL=5.0 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "john H" <professor71@hotmail.com> Thanks for the pic Scott. You might want to post your pics on your web site for all to enjoy. Sounds like SNF was kind of wet and cold. I'm actually building a 601HD with the external trim tab. By the way have you signed the electronic petition at the EAA website to get the sport pilot rule finished up and published. Blue sunny skies this weekend and I'll be in the hangar working and dreaming John From: Scott Laughlin cookwithgas@hotmail.com Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Elevator trim tab -- Zenith-List message posted by: Scott Laughlin cookwithgas@hotmail.com Hi John: My 601XL plans call for a width of 415 mm so that's the way I built it. Earlier this week while I was at Sun'n Fun I found a 601XL in front of the EAA tent that had to be the best constructed 601XL I have seen to date. It turns out this airplane was constructed in the Czech Republic (according to Nick H.). The elevator trim on this airplane was extremely wide - wider than I have ever seen. Here's a photo of that trim tab: http://www.cooknwithgas.com/CzechTrimTab.JPG Note the rain on the airplane - the weather was not the greatest. Perhaps an email to Czech Aircraft Works at aircraft@czaw.cz would be in order to find out why their elevator trim tabs are so large. Scott Laughlin www.cooknwithgas.com


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    Time: 08:35:57 PM PST US
    From: "pchapman@ionsys.com" <pchapman@ionsys.com>
    Subject: Re: Test Pilot
    QUARANTINE_LEVEL=4.0 KILL_LEVEL=5.0 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "pchapman@ionsys.com" <pchapman@ionsys.com> I haven't been able to follow this thread but if you are talking about the initial test flying phase for a homebuilt: As far as I know, having two aboard isn't legal in Canada. I specifically asked Transport Canada if it were possible, or if they'd make an exception, but the answer was no on both counts, at least from the person I spoke too. This was about 5 years ago when my dad's 601 got flying. (I haven't followed this thread, but understand that the US rules can be and have been interpreted more liberally.) In the end I agree with you fully that because of complementary skills, having two aboard can improve safety overall. Other than the very first flight, I still flew with my dad on the test flights. So we had one experienced stick & rudder pilot, and one pilot who was quick with numbers to act as flight test engineer. Had I not been 'risking my life' test flying, I would have been off at my local drop zone skydiving anyway... Peter Chapman 601 HDS C-GZDC Original Message: ----------------- From: John M. Goodings goodings@yorku.ca --> Zenith-List message posted by: "John M. Goodings" <goodings@yorku.ca> [...] hours!) My son went with him for the first 1/2 hour; then I went with him for the second 1/2 hour. (OF COURSE we both wanted the first 1/2 hour. One defers to one's children!) This is perfectly legal in Canada provided the co-pilot is a licensed pilot. To my mind, this method provided extra safety. The person in the left seat was an extremely competent pilot on type. The person in the right seat was extremely familiar with that particular aircraft and all its instruments, etc. That morning was truly [...]


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    Time: 09:20:14 PM PST US
    From: ZSMITH3rd@aol.com
    Subject: Steering rod boot pt. nos. at Yamaha Snomobilllllllle
    KILL_LEVEL=5.0@matronics.com --> Zenith-List message posted by: ZSMITH3rd@aol.com The rubber boots in question to seal the steering rods and keep your feet from freezing are at: http://www.yamaha-motor.com/products/categories.asp?lid=6&lc=sno Click on the "ONLINE PARTS CATALOG" box on the left...... Check the year 2000, Model VX700DXD VMAX 700 DeLuxe (elec start) Under "Frame" in the online parts catalog for this model the fiche will appear, Item 28 & 29 are shown, once for the left side, once for the right side. Parts are identical, same part number L & R. 28 is the "COVER" (the BOOT) (part number 8CR-2198F-00-00) 29 is the "PLATE" (stamped metal ring) (part number 8CR-2195E-00-00) The plate fits over the large end of the boot and rivets to the firewall. Don't have a price, as this is corporate Yamaha site, but somebody on the list can probably post results of visit to snowmobile dealer. We don't have many of those in Texas. Zed/701 needing boots/R912/90.xx% print these numbers do not archive




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