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1. 02:32 AM - Re: Suzuki Engine Conversion, CH701 (Bryan Martin)
2. 04:24 AM - Wynn sightings? (The Minearts)
3. 04:38 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 04/19/04 (Thomas F Marson)
4. 04:46 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 04/19/04 (Thomas F Marson)
5. 05:45 AM - Re: Larry Martin's Sub 701 (Scott Laughlin)
6. 05:46 AM - Re: Suzuki Engine Conversion, CH701 (Larry Martin)
7. 05:55 AM - Re: Wynn sightings? (Scott Laughlin)
8. 06:23 AM - Re: Larry Martin's Sub 701 (Larry Martin)
9. 06:46 AM - Re: Skyshop vs Zenith 701at Sun n Fun (Tommy Walker)
10. 07:12 AM - Tail light (john H)
11. 07:20 AM - Re: Tail light (Benford2@aol.com)
12. 07:25 AM - Suzuki Engine Conversion, CH701 (pcondon)
13. 07:36 AM - Suzuki Converstion (Roger Roy)
14. 08:50 AM - to my RiteAngle customers (RiteAngle3@aol.com)
15. 09:07 AM - Re: Tail light (Scott Laughlin)
16. 09:08 AM - Re: Suzuki Engine Conversion, CH701 (Jim Fosse)
17. 10:01 AM - Marking and labeling for Airworthiness (Larry McFarland)
18. 10:16 AM - Welding (Jari Kaija)
19. 11:47 AM - Light Fixture (Scott Laughlin)
20. 01:30 PM - Re: Light Fixture (Larry McFarland)
21. 04:27 PM - Re: Light Fixture (ZSMITH3rd@aol.com)
22. 05:16 PM - Re: Tail light (Ray Montagne)
23. 06:48 PM - More tail light.... (ZSMITH3rd@aol.com)
24. 08:34 PM - Re: Skyshop vs Zenith 701at Sun n Fun (Jeff Reuschle)
25. 11:09 PM - Re: Suzuki Engine Conversion, CH701 (Phil & Michele Miller)
26. 11:33 PM - Re: Welding (Dirk Slabbert)
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| Subject: | Re: Suzuki Engine Conversion, CH701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
The main reason aircraft engines have two ignition systems is that magneto
driven mechanical ignition systems are relatively unreliable. Also, the
relatively large cylinders in those engines benefit from having two flame
fronts and the faster ignition that provides. Modern electronic ignition
systems are far and away more reliable.
You can also add a second ignition module that runs off a pickup coil
mounted to the crank and drives a second coil that feeds the single spark
plugs through a coil splitter. This is the option that I went with with my
Stratus Subaru.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
Airframe construction complete.
Panel and engine installed.
Nearly done.
do not archive.
on 4/19/04 10:30 PM, Jim Fosse at jfosse1@shawneelink.net wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Fosse" <jfosse1@shawneelink.net>
>
> I've been looking at the 1300CC Suzuki conversion and it seems to have merit,
> e.g., electronic ignition, fuel injection, turbo charge compatible, 100 to 120
> h.p. and 168 lbs. The one thing I'm concerned about is lack of dual ignition.
> Should this be a show stopper? I know that current state of the art systems
> are very reliable but I still have that uneasy feeling about a single ignition
> system. Comments would be appreciated.
>
> Jim Fosse
> Goreville, Illinois
> CH701/Rudder completed/Kit Received
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "The Minearts" <smineart@kdsi.net>
Did anyone at Sun 'n fun see anything of William Wynne or his corvair-powered 601?
I haven't seen anything on whether it was ready to demo, as he planned, or
not. Any impressions?
Steve Mineart
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 04/19/04 |
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> 1. 01:28 AM - Re: 701 Storage Compartments (Ashcraft, Keith -AES)
> 2. 03:48 AM - Re: Steering rod boot pt. nos. at Yamaha Snomobile
(Andrew SanClemente)
> 3. 06:39 AM - Re: Rudder cemtering and pressures (J Davis)
> 4. 07:07 AM - Heater Core (Larry Martin)
> 5. 10:53 AM - Fw: Anyone at Sun-N-Fun (Kevin W Bonds)
> 6. 11:01 AM - Sorry about last post (Kevin W Bonds)
> 7. 11:07 AM - Seat belts (Steve Freeman)
> 8. 11:46 AM - Skyshop vs Zenith 701at Sun n Fun (MElrod3732@aol.com)
> 9. 11:52 AM - Fw: Piano hinge (Kevin W Bonds)
> 10. 12:36 PM - Re: Fw: Piano hinge (Carlos Sa)
> 11. 01:07 PM - Re: Seat belts (Leo Gates)
> 12. 01:28 PM - Re: Fw: Piano hinge (wizard-24@juno.com)
> 13. 01:31 PM - Re: Skyshop vs Zenith 701at Sun n Fun (Scott Laughlin)
> 14. 03:03 PM - Re: Seat belts (Larry McFarland)
> 15. 03:49 PM - Re: N801ZA Flies (Scott and Valeree Stout)
> 16. 04:10 PM - Larry Martin's Sub 701 (Jon Croke)
> 17. 05:35 PM - Re: Test Pilot (Chesterman Family)
> 18. 07:31 PM - Suzuki Engine Conversion, CH701 (Jim Fosse)
> 19. 08:15 PM - Re: nose wheel control rods (Fred Sanford)
> 20. 08:22 PM - Re: Suzuki Engine Conversion, CH701 (Bill Cardell)
> 21. 08:29 PM - Re: Seat belts (Thomas F Marson)
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> Time: 01:28:32 AM PST US
> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 701 Storage Compartments
> From: "Ashcraft, Keith -AES" <Keith.Ashcraft@itt.com>
> FILETIME=[1DAF13B0:01C425E8]
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ashcraft, Keith -AES"
<Keith.Ashcraft@itt.com>
>
> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 701 Storage Compartments
> From: "Ashcraft, Keith -AES" <Keith.Ashcraft@itt.com>
>
>
> Howdy Chuck, How are things going down in Texas.
> Jon had mentioned this in his new site about some creative "experimental"
items
> people have built into their planes.
> (like wing lockers)
> go to
>
> www.ch701.com
> builders photos
> Steve Johnston
>
> and look at his wing lockers.
>
> or the direct web-site
> http://kolbpilot.com/ch701/Steve_Mods.htm
>
> Keith
> N 38.4497
> W 105.1305
> Alt. 9,100'
> (waiting for the ground to thaw, so I can pour cement for my shop!)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Chuck
Deiterich
> Cc:=09
> Subject: Zenith-List: 701 Storage Compartments
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chuck Deiterich" <cfd@thegateway.net>
>
> Listers,
>
> The 701 has an open baggage area behind the seats but not any closed-in
storage.
> I put a map compartment in the right side of my panel to hold maps, the
POHB,
> etc. I wish I had more space.
>
> There is a hole in the right seat front (the same hole on the left side is
where
> the flap handle comes through). Before riveting the seat bottom, a .016
box
> could be fitted behind the hole to hold small things like flash light,
extra
> oil (if put into a clean brake fluid bottle), tie down ropes, etc. I wish
I had
> thought of this before I finished, I may try to retrofit one. Something
to
> consider before riveting the seats.
>
> Chuck D.
> N701TX
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> Time: 03:48:08 AM PST US
> From: Andrew SanClemente <ansancle@townisp.com>
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Steering rod boot pt. nos. at Yamaha Snomobile
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Andrew SanClemente
<ansancle@townisp.com>
>
> http://www.xtremepowersports.com/index.html
>
> You can order the parts from this web site, the instructions below
> apply to finding the part once you are in the 2000 VMAX 700 DeLuxe
> parts list. Cost about $70 with shipping.
>
> - Andrew
>
>
> >--> Zenith-List message posted by: ZSMITH3rd@aol.com
> >
> >The rubber boots in question to seal the steering rods and keep your
> >feet
> >from freezing are at:
> >
> >http://www.yamaha-motor.com/products/categories.asp?lid6&lcsno
> >
> >Click on the "ONLINE PARTS CATALOG" box on the left......
> >Check the year 2000, Model VX700DXD VMAX 700 DeLuxe (elec start)
> >Under "Frame" in the online parts catalog for this model the fiche
> >will
> >appear, Item 28 & 29 are shown, once for the left side, once for the
> >right side.
> >Parts are identical, same part number L & R.
> >28 is the "COVER" (the BOOT) (part number 8CR-2198F-00-00)
> >29 is the "PLATE" (stamped metal ring) (part number 8CR-2195E-00-00)
> >The plate fits over the large end of the boot and rivets to the
> >firewall.
> >
>
>
> http://www.xtremepowersports.com/index.html
>
> You can order the parts from this web site, the instructions below apply
to finding
> the part once you are in the 2000 VMAX 700 DeLuxe parts list. Cost about
> $70 with shipping.
>
> - Andrew
>
>
> --=A0Zenith-List message posted by: ZSMITH3rd@aol.com
>
> The rubber boots in question to seal the steering rods and keep your
> feet
> from freezing are at:
>
> http://www.yamaha-motor.com/products/categories.asp?lid6lcsno
>
> Click on the ONLINE PARTS CATALOG box on the left......
> Check the year 2000, Model VX700DXDVMAX 700 DeLuxe (elec start)
> Under Frame in the online parts catalog for this model the fiche
> will
> appear, Item 2829 are shown, once for the left side, once for the
> right side.
> Parts are identical, same part number LR.
> 28 is the COVER (the BOOT) (part number 8CR-2198F-00-00)
> 29 is the PLATE (stamped metal ring) (part number 8CR-2195E-00-00)
> The plate fits over the large end of the boot and rivets to the
> firewall.
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3
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>
>
> Time: 06:39:25 AM PST US
> From: J Davis <jd@lri.sjhc.london.on.ca>
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rudder cemtering and pressures
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: J Davis <jd@lri.sjhc.london.on.ca>
>
>
> > I did order the part number bungee from the new plans... but you got me
> > wondering... I'll have to double check and try to verify that it is
correct!
> > I always thought the original design was WAY too hard... and am hoping
this
> > softer design would make things nicer....but, you got me wondering
now.....!
> >
>
> I just finished the same firewall mods. The new re-inforced bungee
> hole location takes a shorter bungee (8"), p/n 1090, but it is rated
> at 750 lbs, as opposed to the original 10" 9010HD, rated at 475.
>
> Seems to me that that would increase pressure on the nose gear stop,
> all else being equal...
>
> Since I have a relatively light 582, I decided to ignore the new
> re-inforced holes and go back to the original 300mm hole location
> and original longer, weaker bungee.
>
> --
> Regards, J.
>
> flying: Zenair STOL CH701/582 C-IGGY , > 240 hrs.
> building: Sonex #325, engine probably Jabiru 3300/6/120hp
>
>
>
> If you spend any time administering Windows NT, you're far too
> familiar with the Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) ...
> - "MSDN Flash" email newsletter
>
>
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>
> Time: 07:07:17 AM PST US
> From: "Larry Martin" <earthloc@att.net>
> Subject: Zenith-List: Heater Core
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <earthloc@att.net>
>
> For some time I have been pondering as to which heater core to use in my
701 with
> a Subaru setup. I accidentally found what may be perfect for the setup.
I
> have a 95 Subaru Legacy behind my shop. I took the engine out a while
back to
> use in a gyro. The other day I happened to look inside and saw the
heater.
> I removed the core and was very pleasantly surprised. The core is all
aluminum,
> I put in on a postal scale and it weighs 1.25 lbs, is approximately 8" X
8"
> X 1", the inlet and outlet are 5/8" OD. The part I really like about it
is
> that both the inlet and outlet tubes are attached to the top of the core
via separate
> plates with four screws systemically placed. Which means you can easily
> move the tubes to any position to fit your needs or make new ones with out
> having to weld to the core. Just thought I would pass it along FYI.
>
> A second thought on heater cores while I'm at it. A few days ago someone
asked
> about the sizes of the inlet and outlet tubes as to which size was for
inlet
> vs which for outlet. Someone else replied the it really didn't matter
that if
> you wanted more heat put the smaller of the two as the outlet. Well I
have to
> respectfully disagree. If you use the smaller tube as the return, you are
building
> up pressure in the heater core. And, you don't want that. The liquid
> should not be restricted any more than possible at the core. The outlet
is always
> the same size or larger for a reason. Remember you have 180+ degree water
> not too far from the jewels and the electrically system. If the core
springs
> a leak, you want it to run out on the floor, not create a high pressure
spray.
> Larry
> Take a look, www.gyrostabs.com
>
>
> ---
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5
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>
>
> Time: 10:53:47 AM PST US
> From: "Kevin W Bonds" <kbonds@worldshare.net>
> Subject: Zenith-List: Fw: Anyone at Sun-N-Fun
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Kevin W Bonds" <kbonds@worldshare.net>
>
> Anyone at Sun-N-Fun that can ask CH or someone else from ZAC a Question. I
need
> to speek to you off list. I don't want to pose the Question here until I
get
> an answer. I don't want to cause an uproar without all the facts.
>
> Kevin Bonds
> Nashville Tn
> Zenithair Zodiac 601XL plansbuilder; rudder complete;
> almost done with forming blocks;
> making parts for elevator
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6
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>
>
> Time: 11:01:00 AM PST US
> From: "Kevin W Bonds" <kbonds@worldshare.net>
> Subject: Zenith-List: Sorry about last post
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Kevin W Bonds" <kbonds@worldshare.net>
>
> Ignore that last email. It was supposed to go out last week. I've been
having trouble
> with my email.
>
> Kevin
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 7
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>
>
> Time: 11:07:19 AM PST US
> From: "Steve Freeman" <stefree@qwest.net>
> Subject: Zenith-List: Seat belts
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Steve Freeman" <stefree@qwest.net>
>
> Hey Everybody,
>
> I am installing the seat belts in my 601HDS and I have a question that
defies my
> conventional wisdom. The planse call for AN4-5A bolts to be used. This
would
> indicate to me to use a nylock washer of corresponding size. However, it
seems
> to me that the seat balt attachment harnesses should be able to "float"
around
> the connecting bolt. Am I wrong in this assumption? Should I use a nylock
> nut and torque it down tight making it so the harnesses don't move around
the
> bolt?
>
> Any advice would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve Freeman
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 8
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>
>
> Time: 11:46:58 AM PST US
> From: MElrod3732@aol.com
> Subject: Zenith-List: Skyshop vs Zenith 701at Sun n Fun
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: MElrod3732@aol.com
>
> Did anyone else notice at Sun n Fun, how much nicer the interior of the
> Skyshop CH701s (both the planes on wheels and amphib floats) were then the
Zenith
>
> 701display model? In addition to having better carpeting and instrument
> panels, the Skyshop planes had nice touches like having the headphone
jacks above
>
> the rear storage area preventing the cords from getting in the way and a
very
> neatly installed fuel selector in the same area. The Skyshop 701s just
had a
> more "professionally looking" feel to the interior.
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 9
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>
>
> Time: 11:52:36 AM PST US
> From: "Kevin W Bonds" <kbonds@worldshare.net>
> Subject: Zenith-List: Fw: Piano hinge
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Kevin W Bonds" <kbonds@worldshare.net>
>
> I'm trying to order my piano hinges for the elevator/stab assembly and
need some
> help. The plans call for MS20257. Do you guys suggest the MS20257p which
is
> aluminum (grade?) or MS20257c which is SS? Also do I have to order the pin
separately?
>
> Kevin Bonds
> Nashville Tn
> Zenithair Zodiac 601XL plansbuilder; rudder complete;
> almost done with forming blocks;
> making parts for elevator
>
> Do not archive
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 10
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>
>
> Time: 12:36:46 PM PST US
> From: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fw: Piano hinge
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
>
>
> Kevin, I am using aluminum hinges. The pin comes with it by default.
>
>
> Carlos
> (CH601HD, plans)
>
> --- Kevin W Bonds <kbonds@worldshare.net> wrote:
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Kevin W Bonds"
<kbonds@worldshare.net>
> >
> > I'm trying to order my piano hinges for the elevator/stab assembly and
need some
> help. The plans
> > call for MS20257. Do you guys suggest the MS20257p which is aluminum
(grade?)
> or MS20257c which
> > is SS? Also do I have to order the pin separately?
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 11
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>
>
> Time: 01:07:40 PM PST US
> From: Leo Gates <leogates@allvantage.com>
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Seat belts
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Leo Gates <leogates@allvantage.com>
>
> Steve Freeman wrote:
>
> >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Steve Freeman" <stefree@qwest.net>
> >
> >Hey Everybody,
> >
> >I am installing the seat belts in my 601HDS and I have a question that
defies
> my conventional wisdom. The planse call for AN4-5A bolts to be used.
Should
> I use a nylock nut and torque it down tight making it so the harnesses
don't
> move around the bolt?
> >
> >
> >
> Mine are torqed down. I see no reason for them to move, if positioned
> correctly.
>
> Leo Gates
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 12
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>
>
> Time: 01:28:17 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fw: Piano hinge
> From: wizard-24@juno.com
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: wizard-24@juno.com
>
>
> > I'm trying to order my piano hinges for the elevator/stab assembly
> > and need some help. The plans call for MS20257. Do you guys suggest
> > the MS20257p which is aluminum (grade?) or MS20257c which is SS?
> > Also do I have to order the pin separately?
>
> I think the pin usually comes with the hinge. Just be sure you use the
> one that has a stainless steel pin instead of the AL pin. There's
> something mentioned on ZAC's web site about this.
>
> Mike Fortunato
> 601XL
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 13
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>
>
> Time: 01:31:33 PM PST US
> From: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Skyshop vs Zenith 701at Sun n Fun
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin"
<cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
>
> I noticed. I also noticed how superbly fabricated the Czech Republic
601XL
> was in front of the EAA booth. It was the all-white 601XL if you happened
> to notice. Very nice airplane with fantastic attention to detail.
>
> Those skyshop floats were beautiful! I was drooling all over them (or was
> that the rain?) Anyway it shows what can happen if you take your time and
> pay attention to detail.
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: MElrod3732@aol.com
> Subject: Zenith-List: Skyshop vs Zenith 701at Sun n Fun
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: MElrod3732@aol.com
>
> Did anyone else notice at Sun n Fun, how much nicer the interior of the
> Skyshop CH701s (both the planes on wheels and amphib floats) were then the
> Zenith
> 701display model? In addition to having better carpeting and instrument
> panels, the Skyshop planes had nice touches like having the headphone
jacks
> above
> the rear storage area preventing the cords from getting in the way and a
> very
> neatly installed fuel selector in the same area. The Skyshop 701s just
had
> a
> more "professionally looking" feel to the interior.
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 14
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>
>
> Time: 03:03:09 PM PST US
> From: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Seat belts
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland"
<larrymc@qconline.com>
>
>
> Subject: Zenith-List: Seat belts
>
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Steve Freeman" <stefree@qwest.net>
> However, it seems to me that the seat balt attachment harnesses should be
> able to "float" around the connecting bolt.
>
> > Steve Freeman
>
> I used the same hardware and found the seat belts should be at least
> rotational. My shoulder harnesses
> are rigid to keep them oriented correctly to the stress. The seat belts
> will be adjusted to fit several angles
> and would probably be best tensioned to the correct angle when buckled.
>
> Larry
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 15
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>
>
> Time: 03:49:14 PM PST US
> From: Scott and Valeree Stout <the_stouts@worldnet.att.net>
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: N801ZA Flies
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Scott and Valeree Stout
<the_stouts@worldnet.att.net>
>
> Congrats Jim!!!!!!
>
> What did the weight and balance come in at??????
>
> Regards,
> Scott
>
> http://home.att.net/~the_stouts_zenith_801/
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 16
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>
>
> Time: 04:10:41 PM PST US
> From: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
> Subject: Zenith-List: Larry Martin's Sub 701
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
>
> For 701 builders -- this is a big deal!
>
> Check out Larry Martin's Subaru engine on his 701.. looks mighty nice!
>
> Home page of www.CH701.com (picture of the week!)
>
> Super!
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 17
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>
>
> Time: 05:35:21 PM PST US
> From: Chesterman Family <chesterman@on.aibn.com>
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Test Pilot
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Chesterman Family
<chesterman@on.aibn.com>
>
> before you all get mixed up further.
>
> there are 3 different ways to register light planes in canada and each
> catagory carries a different set of rules.
> the most confusing is when registered as a homebuilt but has a gross
weight
> under 1200 lbs which lets an ultralight instructor give lessons and a
private
> pilot carry passengers
>
> dave chesterman
>
> Frank Jones wrote:
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Frank Jones" <fjones@sympatico.ca>
> >
> > Peter,
> >
> > I believe if you check the restrictions on the C of A you find that
> > there is an exception if there are two on board for purposes of dual
> > instruction. Presumably the PIC would need to have an instructor rating
> > and it would be legal to have 2 aboard. At least as far as I know.
> >
> > Frank Jones
> > Ottawa
> > C-GYXQ
> >
> > >As far as I know, having two aboard isn't legal in Canada. I
> > specifically
> > >asked Transport Canada if it were possible, or if they'd make an
> > exception,
> > >but the answer was no on both counts, at least from the person I spoke
> > too.
> > >This was about 5 years ago when my dad's 601 got flying. (I haven't
> > >followed this thread, but understand that the US rules can be and have
> > been
> > >interpreted more liberally.)
> > >
> > >Peter Chapman
> > >601 HDS C-GZDC
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 18
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>
>
> Time: 07:31:43 PM PST US
> From: "Jim Fosse" <jfosse1@shawneelink.net>
> Subject: Zenith-List: Suzuki Engine Conversion, CH701
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Fosse" <jfosse1@shawneelink.net>
>
> I've been looking at the 1300CC Suzuki conversion and it seems to have
merit, e.g.,
> electronic ignition, fuel injection, turbo charge compatible, 100 to 120
> h.p. and 168 lbs. The one thing I'm concerned about is lack of dual
ignition.
> Should this be a show stopper? I know that current state of the art
systems
> are very reliable but I still have that uneasy feeling about a single
ignition
> system. Comments would be appreciated.
>
> Jim Fosse
> Goreville, Illinois
> CH701/Rudder completed/Kit Received
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 19
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>
>
> Time: 08:15:53 PM PST US
> From: Fred Sanford <sonar1@cox.net>
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: nose wheel control rods
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Fred Sanford <sonar1@cox.net>
>
> Dan:
> Don't know how long a NOMEX boot will last, but seems very flexible,
> and have seen no brittle splinters. Sort of like a heavy denim.
> Another company - Giant Leap Rocketry- has KEVLAR cloth and thread.......
> .
> Fred Sanford
> waiting for 701 kit
> Ca.
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 20
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>
>
> Time: 08:22:33 PM PST US
> From: Bill Cardell <bill@flyinmiata.com>
> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Suzuki Engine Conversion, CH701
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bill Cardell <bill@flyinmiata.com>
>
> Jim,
> Who makes that one? Is it car based or the Hayabusa bike engine?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Fosse [mailto:jfosse1@shawneelink.net]
> Subject: Zenith-List: Suzuki Engine Conversion, CH701
>
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Fosse" <jfosse1@shawneelink.net>
>
> I've been looking at the 1300CC Suzuki conversion and it seems to have
> merit, e.g., electronic ignition, fuel injection, turbo charge compatible,
> 100 to 120 h.p. and 168 lbs. The one thing I'm concerned about is lack of
> dual ignition. Should this be a show stopper? I know that current state
of
> the art systems are very reliable but I still have that uneasy feeling
about
> a single ignition system. Comments would be appreciated.
>
> Jim Fosse
> Goreville, Illinois
> CH701/Rudder completed/Kit Received
>
>
> advertising on the Matronics Forums.
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 21
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>
>
> Time: 08:29:57 PM PST US
> From: "Thomas F Marson" <tmarson@pressenter.com>
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Seat belts
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thomas F Marson"
<tmarson@pressenter.com>
>
> They should float. Tom Marson
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Freeman" <stefree@qwest.net>
> Subject: Zenith-List: Seat belts
>
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Steve Freeman" <stefree@qwest.net>
> >
> > Hey Everybody,
> >
> > I am installing the seat belts in my 601HDS and I have a question that
> defies my conventional wisdom. The planse call for AN4-5A bolts to be
used.
> This would indicate to me to use a nylock washer of corresponding size.
> However, it seems to me that the seat balt attachment harnesses should be
> able to "float" around the connecting bolt. Am I wrong in this
assumption?
> Should I use a nylock nut and torque it down tight making it so the
> harnesses don't move around the bolt?
> >
> > Any advice would be appreciated.
> >
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thomas F Marson" <tmarson@pressenter.com>
Stainless is much stronger. I would suggest the proper authority to comment
is Zenith.
I can say however that in similar applications , (rudder and elevator)
applications some other kit mfgrs are specifying stainless. And that is
what I used. I have seen a top rudder hinge that should have been stainless
and was inadvertantly replaced with aluminum fail in this other application.
The place it failed was at Airventure, Came real close to disaster. It did
fail in the air. The rudder cocked off to one side by about 25 degrees from
vertical and the plane would not steer (upon landing) Tailwheel plane. Very
lucky the rudder did not start fluttering or it surely would have come off.
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zenith-List Digest Server" <zenith-list-digest@matronics.com>
Subject: Zenith-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 04/19/04
> *
>
>List: Fw: Piano hinge
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Kevin W Bonds" <kbonds@worldshare.net>
>
> I'm trying to order my piano hinges for the elevator/stab assembly and
need some
> help. The plans call for MS20257. Do you guys suggest the MS20257p which
is
> aluminum (grade?) or MS20257c which is SS? Also do I have to order the pin
separately?
>
> Kevin Bonds
> Nashville Tn
> Zenithair Zodiac 601XL plansbuilder; rudder complete;
> almost done with forming blocks;
> making parts for elevator
>
> Do not archive
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 10
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>
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| Subject: | Larry Martin's Sub 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
Jon:
That's a beautiful installation. It looks like the 2.2 liter Sub. engine
they use in gyrocopters. It seems to be a lot of horsepower for a 701. I
was told it was around 160 horsepower. I am curious as to the weight of
this engine. The 701 has a maximum recommended weight of 185 lbs. I'm
sure Larry thought all of this out and has beefed up the airfame
accordingly.
Great work Larry - the mufflers are a nice touch. Also, the planetary
re-drive is very slick. I saw this in some of the RV's at Sun'n Fun.
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
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| Subject: | Re: Suzuki Engine Conversion, CH701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <earthloc@att.net>
I wouldn't let that stop me. Subaru FI is a single ignition and I have
never heard of a failure. That's not to say there hasn't been, I just don't
know of any. Modern electronics is pretty dependable. Everything is
sealed, not exposed to elements and no moving parts. I would venture a guess
that Suzuki is just as dependable, probably made at the same factory.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Fosse" <jfosse1@shawneelink.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Suzuki Engine Conversion, CH701
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Fosse" <jfosse1@shawneelink.net>
>
> I've been looking at the 1300CC Suzuki conversion and it seems to have
merit, e.g., electronic ignition, fuel injection, turbo charge compatible,
100 to 120 h.p. and 168 lbs. The one thing I'm concerned about is lack of
dual ignition. Should this be a show stopper? I know that current state of
the art systems are very reliable but I still have that uneasy feeling about
a single ignition system. Comments would be appreciated.
>
> Jim Fosse
> Goreville, Illinois
> CH701/Rudder completed/Kit Received
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
Steve:
I saw it. I talked to William breifly about it also. They started work in
January and finished by the end of March. Pretty impressive build time.
The next Corvair newsletter has a photo of the team that built the airplane.
The cowl is impressive and I plan to incorporate a similar design. I
posted a few photos on my website of the airplane:
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/WilliamPlane.JPG
Here's a good view of the cowl:
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/CorvairCowl.JPG
The rear view:
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/ZenVairRear'.JPG
I have more and will post them later on a "Sun'n Fun" page on my website.
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "The Minearts" <smineart@kdsi.net>
Did anyone at Sun 'n fun see anything of William Wynne or his
corvair-powered 601? I haven't seen anything on whether it was ready to
demo, as he planned, or not. Any impressions?
Steve Mineart
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| Subject: | Re: Larry Martin's Sub 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <earthloc@att.net>
Actually it's a 2.5, with direct drive, 110 hp at 3250 rpm and it is a
little over weight, 259 lbs. I talked to ZAK a couple of times and they
said that with the updated kit it won't be a problem. If you will notice,
for CG purposes I mounted the engine a lot closer to the firewall than
normal, about an inch at the closest point vs about 9 inches for a Rotax.
The radiator will be in the fuselage with a P51 style scoop. This should
help with CG, plus there ain't room up front. I will have to reroute the
elevator cables. Plus I am using PegaStol wings which give an additional
100lbs useful load, thus compensating for the additional weight.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Larry Martin's Sub 701
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin"
<cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
>
> Jon:
>
> That's a beautiful installation. It looks like the 2.2 liter Sub. engine
> they use in gyrocopters. It seems to be a lot of horsepower for a 701.
I
> was told it was around 160 horsepower. I am curious as to the weight of
> this engine. The 701 has a maximum recommended weight of 185 lbs. I'm
> sure Larry thought all of this out and has beefed up the airfame
> accordingly.
>
> Great work Larry - the mufflers are a nice touch. Also, the planetary
> re-drive is very slick. I saw this in some of the RV's at Sun'n Fun.
>
> Scott Laughlin
> www.cooknwithgas.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Skyshop vs Zenith 701at Sun n Fun |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tommy Walker" <twalker@cableone.net>
Hello, I have been lurking about for several weeks. I made my first trip
to Sun-N-Fun to get more information on the 701. The Skyshop plane was very
good looking. As you said there was lots of attention to detail. I wonder
what the age difference was between the ZAC plane and the Skyshop version?
I have really learned a lot reading the posts on this list. Me and a buddy
plan to build a 701 when (if) the Sport Pilot rule becomes a reality.
Thanks,
T Walker
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "john H" <professor71@hotmail.com>
Hi list...I'm in the process of finishing up a 601HD. When I put an ohm meter across
the 2 wires coming from the tail light, it shows a short. I checked that
the wires were attached correctly to the tabs. I assumed that one wire is supposed
to be a ground and the other hot. Even when I put the ohm meter on the 2
tabs with the bulb in place it showed a short. The other thing I noticed was
that the bulb had 2 filaments which I don't really understand. Anyone out there
have any ideas?
Thanks
John
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
In a message dated 4/20/2004 8:13:16 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
professor71@hotmail.com writes:
>
>
> Hi list...I'm in the process of finishing up a 601HD. When I put an ohm
> meter across the 2 wires coming from the tail light, it shows a short. I checked
> that the wires were attached correctly to the tabs. I assumed that one wire
> is supposed to be a ground and the other hot. Even when I put the ohm meter on
> the 2 tabs with the bulb in place it showed a short. The other thing I
> noticed was that the bulb had 2 filaments which I don't really understand. Anyone
> out there have any ideas?
>
>
With the bulb in place it will show a short. The element is a short. The bulb
for mine has only one element. Duel filaments bulbs are for a running
light/brake light combo. The socket for those are different from a single one.
Test
each wire as it comes out of the front of the rudder to see what ya get
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| Subject: | Suzuki Engine Conversion, CH701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "pcondon" <pcondon@mitre.org>
Raven has engine mounts for the Suzuki Chevy GEO Metro 1300 SVS at the same
cost as Zeniths mounts for the Rotax. I've collected the shop manuals,
Chiltons, Haynes & the GM manual on the engine as well as the Raven manual
to become educated about this engine.
Single ignition....there is one drive coupling to the trigger sensor for the
electronic ignition but there are 4 separate coils. One way to think about
this is in modern automotive applications, there is no need for a backup
system. I have never encountered a electrical failure that lead to a
ignition failure in all the reading or forl lore I've have listened too. The
computer control system had diagnostics that will warn of a failure...as all
modern auto computer systems have.
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| Subject: | Suzuki Converstion |
Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:36:43 -0400
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Roger Roy" <Savannah174@msn.com>
For those folks that are concerned about reliability of the 3 cyl Suzuki Engine
I have this to say. In my aircrafts I use Rotax 912's only because they were
with the kit. My wife drove a Geo for 9 years for a total of 116,000 miles. This
engine performed flawlessly with the exception of one instance. We sold the
car to a salvage yard but kept the engine. The body and chassis was rotted out.
The one instance that I previously mentioned is that one evening coming home
from a church service the Serpentine belt broke and the battery sustained
operation for about 10 minutes than the engine gradually lost power and than quit.
I hate to admit this but had this engine had an "annual" this belt would
have been found. Oil changes approx. every 67 thousand miles. Spark plugs were
changed approx. at every 50,000 miles and one air filter at 75,000 miles, I suppose
one could say that this engine was abused yet when I removed it and the
transmission it was running like the day I bought it. I for one plan to use it
in my next project (still looking) maybe a 601? Anyway I think this unit is
an excellent candidate for aero power. There is a company that does Geo engine
conversions but I can't remember their web site. So in closing I concur with
Mr. Martins assessment on the dependability of single ignition installation with
auto converstions
Regards,
RJ
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| Subject: | to my RiteAngle customers |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: RiteAngle3@aol.com
Hi Zenith builders installing the RiteAngle AOA system.
Are you proud of your aircraft?
I am in the process of updating the photos of the RiteAngle AOA system
installed on aircraft on our website, Instructional CD and my photo book I'll have
at AirVenture. I appreciate all photos, however those which show the display,
Vane and / or a unique way of solving any problem related to RiteAngle AOA
system would be appreciated along with a full aircraft photo.
E-mailing these is fine, please give S/N of RiteAngle and approximate hours
flown if you are completed building and "in the air."
I have had quite a few individual messages returned due to e-mail address
changes and felt this was one way to reach the largest group of builders/flyers.
Fly the Safe Angle with the RiteAngle
Elbie
EM Aviation, LLC
www.riteangle.com
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
John:
A good light bulb will show continuity. I'm not sure why you have the
double filament bulb. I'm going to use the single filament 1156 bulb.
Scott Laughlin
----Original Message Follows----
From: "john H" <professor71@hotmail.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Tail light
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "john H" <professor71@hotmail.com>
Hi list...I'm in the process of finishing up a 601HD. When I put an ohm
meter across the 2 wires coming from the tail light, it shows a short. I
checked that the wires were attached correctly to the tabs. I assumed that
one wire is supposed to be a ground and the other hot. Even when I put the
ohm meter on the 2 tabs with the bulb in place it showed a short. The other
thing I noticed was that the bulb had 2 filaments which I don't really
understand. Anyone out there have any ideas?
Thanks
John
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| Subject: | Re: Suzuki Engine Conversion, CH701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Fosse" <jfosse1@shawneelink.net>
Thanks for the many comments. I am encouraged. I have been to the
Raven web site but have concentrated on www.bilsamaviation.com. They
are located in Poland and deal in the Euro dollar. They offer the 3
cylinder conversion as well as the 1300cc and the 1600cc. Their
reduction unit is a geared unit, running in oil. They offer the
engine mount and will eventually have the cowling for both the 601 and
701. I received a price quote on the 1300 today at 5800 Euro which
translates today to $ 6972.00 U.S. Air freight from Warsaw is
estimated at $400 to $500 U.S. The price of the engine includes a
firewall forward package. They term their package as a "turn key
unit" with all wiring, radiator, gauges, etc included. You won't see
their price list on the web page. I have been dealing with them via
email and they have been real responsive. Prices quoted for the 3 cyl
(LS-1000) 80 h.p. was 5999 Euro and the LS-1600 (140 h.p.) was 7500
Euro. I don't know how long it will last but they quoted me a dealer
discounted price (20%) for the 1300.. If the dollar improves on the
world market, we could see a better price in U.S. dollars, but as it
is, the price is not too bad, in my opinion that is. BTW, max rpm is
6000. Would anyone offer a recommended reduction ratio? Jim Fosse
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Fosse" <jfosse1@shawneelink.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Suzuki Engine Conversion, CH701
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Fosse"
<jfosse1@shawneelink.net>
I've been looking at the 1300CC Suzuki conversion and it seems to have
merit, e.g., electronic ignition, fuel injection, turbo charge
compatible, 100 to 120 h.p. and 168 lbs. The one thing I'm concerned
about is lack of dual ignition. Should this be a show stopper? I
know that current state of the art systems are very reliable but I
still have that uneasy feeling about a single ignition system.
Comments would be appreciated.
Jim Fosse
Goreville, Illinois
CH701/Rudder completed/Kit Received
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| Subject: | Marking and labeling for Airworthiness |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
Hi guys,
There's a point when you decide to fly off the 40 hours
before formal paint and finish (the next year) and then
consider a need for marking things like fuel type and gallons
at filler points, latch operations, and externalized detail for safety
or clarity as required by the FAA in preparation for the Airworthiness
inspection.
I'd use a permanent ink marker if it were up to me for contemporary
prepaint needs, but would like to hear what others have done about
this problem and how fussy the requirements are for airspeed range markings
that are going to be more an estimate than exactitude.
Any suggestions?
Larry McFarland - 601HDS (at the airport)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jari Kaija" <jari.kaija@pp.inet.fi>
How about this?
www.project-ch701.net ---> Select "Various" and go to end
of that page...
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
Experienced Aircraft Builders:
I need your help. I have fabricated my wingtip lights and I need to connect
the wires. The finished (almost finished) product looks like this:
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/4_19_04_WingTip.JPG
The back of the light fixture has connectors I am not familiar with. I need
to attach the wiring and I don't know what kind of connector to buy. Please
take a look at the fitting and let me know if you have seen this before and
how I would go about wiring it up:
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/LightConnector.jpg
Thanks in advance for your help,
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
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| Subject: | Re: Light Fixture |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
Scott,
The pics look like the base of a light that can be found in Aircraft Spruces
catalog. The rest of the parts including wire connectors should be
components purchased from the same people that provided the base
(ZAC or A&S). The bulb plug-in should be one or two hots and a
ground using the hot to the bulb(s) and the base or side jacket to the
ground wire. Both
would exit to a plug common to the strobe, if equipped, and the others
require knife splice or bullet splice connections to get back to the
switches or ground.
Call your supplier of the base and go from there.
Also, get a copy of The AeroElectric Connecton by Bob Nukolls at
www.aeroelectric.com
which will provide many of the answers you'll need on wiring an aircraft.
It's
a bargan at $35.
Larry McFarland
Please
> take a look at the fitting and let me know if you have seen this before
and
> how I would go about wiring it up:
> Scott Laughlin
> www.cooknwithgas.com
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| Subject: | Re: Light Fixture |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ZSMITH3rd@aol.com
If you carefully unscrew the rear you will find a "center hole" where you
would solder a wire. This is "hot" with respect to ground. The metal housing
is
"ground". Not much different from lamps you might find in an auto parts
store. This fixture should have arrived with a spring, a rubber disk and a
phenolic disk with a hollow metal rivet in the center. It is into this hole you
insert the hot 12-volt wire and solder it such that there is a slight balling on
the lamp side. This constitutes the actual center contact for the lamp.
Ground is accomplished by continuity of the outside shell through the airframe.
(We ARE building a Zenith, not a Glaswonder?)
If there is any way to see a functioning unit, do it. If you're not
comfortable with the soldering job, get help......once you've seen this done its
a
piece of cake.
Good luck,
Zed / 701 /R912 /90.xx% definitely do not archive
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Ray Montagne <ac6qj@earthlink.net>
On 4/20/04 7:20 AM, "Benford2@aol.com" <Benford2@aol.com> wrote:
>> out there have any ideas?
>>
>>
>
> Test
> each wire as it comes out of the front of the rudder to see what ya get
Or pull the bulb and test for a short...
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Best Regards, Ray Montagne
Cupertino, CA
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Build Status: Rudder completed
Elevator Completed
Stabilizer Completed
Flaps Completed
Ailerons Completed
Right Wing Completed
Right Wing Tip Completed
Left Wing Completed
Right Wing Tip Completed
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| Subject: | More tail light.... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ZSMITH3rd@aol.com
Apologies to whomever sent the off-list, I hit DELETE by mistake.
As to the apparent "short" with the ohmmeter -- most of the less-expensive
analog meters (Radio Shack, etc) don't have a true low-ohms range. The digital
versions don't either.
If you still have the instruction sheet, "zero" the meter, both open-circuit
and shorted test leads per the sheet. Use the lowest range available on your
meter. Measure a bulb on your work table. You'll hardly see a difference
between shorted leads and the bulb. The filament is, as someone noted on the
list, a curly piece of wire. It will indicate a "short" by itself.
Remove the bulb from your lamp socket. The indication of a short as a result
of the bulb should disappear as you measure center conductor to ground
conductor.
If you have any indication of continuity with the bulb removed, there is most
likely a problem.
One caution: If your meter has a "high" Ohms range (R x 10,000 or R x
1,000,000 for instance) switch to the highest range and wet your fingers; then
hold
the test leads, one in each hand. There is no shock hazard, but you'll be
reading the resistance through your body. Same deal with plain water vs. salty
water. This is one reason there are "ranges" on the meter.....so you can
choose the appropriate range for the task at hand. The caution is that if you
are
measuring relatively high resistances and have your fingers touching the
metal test probes you may get false measurements because you would be measuring
your body about as much as the device you intended.
Depending on the make/model of your meter, you may need to plug the leads
into different holes for the various functions. Remember to use a known good
battery. If its an analog it won't "zero" very well on a dead battery.
Digitals usually have a LOW BATT warning, if it isn't already dead.
Cheers, Toronto wins game 7!
Zed/701/R912/90% do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Skyshop vs Zenith 701at Sun n Fun |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff Reuschle" <jreuschle@mindspring.com>
T Walker,
The Zenair 701 has been flown as a demonstrator for 832 hours. The engine is
an original 912 without any overhaul. I know this because I asked Roger when
I was at Sun & Fun. His is a working plane.
Jeff Reuschle
701 Awaiting Inspection
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tommy Walker" <twalker@cableone.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Skyshop vs Zenith 701at Sun n Fun
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tommy Walker" <twalker@cableone.net>
>
> Hello, I have been lurking about for several weeks. I made my first trip
> to Sun-N-Fun to get more information on the 701. The Skyshop plane was
very
> good looking. As you said there was lots of attention to detail. I
wonder
> what the age difference was between the ZAC plane and the Skyshop version?
>
> I have really learned a lot reading the posts on this list. Me and a
buddy
> plan to build a 701 when (if) the Sport Pilot rule becomes a reality.
>
> Thanks,
>
> T Walker
>
>
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| Subject: | Suzuki Engine Conversion, CH701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil & Michele Miller" <millerpg@ps.gen.nz>
That's really good news! I wonder why my wife's Lexus didn't give any
warning when it just started running rough then died completely a year
or so ago.
Cheers,
Phil Miller
New Zealand
(Do Not Archive)
-----Original Message-----
One way to think about this is in modern automotive applications, there
is no need for a backup system. I have never encountered a electrical
failure that lead to a ignition failure in all the reading or forl lore
I've have listened too. The computer control system had diagnostics that
will warn of a failure...as all modern auto computer systems have.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dirk Slabbert" <dirkslabbert@telkomsa.net>
No Jari, not at all, there's a lot of tricks to go into this, wait till you get
to those 30 deg bends! Now you have a long weld in a half finished fuse, with
too much heat input it warps out of shape!
Took me many hrs and one discarded fuse before I got it right.
Can send you pics of my project if you want.
Dirk in Africa.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jari Kaija
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:16 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Welding
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jari Kaija" <jari.kaija@pp.inet.fi>
How about this?
www.project-ch701.net ---> Select "Various" and go to end
of that page...
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