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1. 04:45 AM - EFIS and engine monitors (caspainhower@aep.com)
2. 05:09 AM - Lycoming Fuel Injection lines (Bruce Schmidt)
3. 06:15 AM - Re: EFIS and engine monitors (Rick Morawski)
4. 08:16 AM - Re: Subaru engine comparison (HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1))
5. 08:26 AM - Re: Zenith in Seattle ()
6. 08:27 AM - Re: Zenith in Seattle (HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1))
7. 08:14 PM - Seats for 601 (Doug Mattson)
8. 08:35 PM - Ray Allen Trim indicator (Lance Gingell)
9. 08:38 PM - Harbor Freight Riveter (Lance Gingell)
10. 08:45 PM - Re: Seats for 601 (Randy Stout)
11. 08:53 PM - Re: Ray Allen Trim indicator (Ray Montagne)
12. 11:21 PM - joy-flying + Re: Harbor Freight Riveter (xl)
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| Subject: | EFIS and engine monitors |
|July 24, 2002) at05/03/2004 07:44:42 AM
--> Zenith-List message posted by: caspainhower@aep.com
I recently ordered the new heated pitot tube for the Dynon, I will be
ordering the rest of the system in the next month or so. I have been
looking at the Stratomaster Ultra "X" for engine monitoring and backup ASI,
VSI and Alt. Just wondering if anyone else is using or has experience with
the Stratomaster?
Craig S.
N601XS, 601XL 0-235 lyc, wings and tail done, fusilage coming together.
>Also planning to use an efis system from http://www.dynonavionics.com . 2
grand, and all those features, how cool? >They are working on a neat
engine monitor, but that may be just a little too much. Cant wait to start
building.
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| Subject: | Lycoming Fuel Injection lines |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bruce Schmidt" <bschmidt613@charter.net>
Hi, I have an IO-360 lycoming. On the fuel injector there are 3 fuel lines.
One on the side (larger) for fuel IN.
One on top (smaller) which I think goes to the fuel distributor on top of
the engine. The third (small) is on the side
near the fuel IN. Is this a fuel return line? On my last airplane (with
this engine) I had NO return line and had
a fuel pressure transducer hooked there. Anyway, I did manage to fly from
California to Georgia WITHOUT
ever having a fuel return line which seems to be something that most people
want for fuel injection. (I had
a high pressure aux electric pump and bypass valve only used for starting
and landing).
PS I've searched, looking for pictures with instructions and haven't found
any .
CH801
Bruce Schmidt
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| Subject: | Re: EFIS and engine monitors |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rick Morawski" <morawski@highway1.com.au>
I have a Stratomaster Ultra as my primary instument and love it.
Not everyone likes the digital type but it suits me fine.
Good points are-
Ease of installation -one wire from firewall to instrument.(apart from
power & pitot/static)
Ease of instrument scan - Its all right there in front, and beeps if
anything goes wrong.
Upgradeable software - when new stuff comes out you can download new
software.
Flight Log for last 250 or so flights built in.
More stuff built in than I would have in discrete instruments
Points to reckon with-
Liquid crystal display goes black if you leave it parked in full sun on
a hot day. Easy remedy is cover your cockpit.
Cant think of anything else I dont like about it.
Rick Morawski
morawski@highway1.com.au
> ordering the rest of the system in the next month or so. I have been
> looking at the Stratomaster Ultra "X" for engine monitoring and backup
ASI,
> VSI and Alt. Just wondering if anyone else is using or has experience with
> the Stratomaster?
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| Subject: | Subaru engine comparison |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
I'm sorry but the high incidence of valve guide failure and the failure of
Mykal to take responsibility for the issue and to find a Proper fix for the
problem is unacceptable to me. The first time the motor drops a guide and
you get the sickening shudder from the torque reversal thru the airframe I
will guarantee your attitude towards nervouseness will change!
The belt drive is OK but it's a bit of a pain to live with. I believe the
consensus is a gear drive is a better solution and that's why Eggenfelner
went that way after messing with belts for a few years.
The Stratus also relies upon the original feeble ND ignition system.
Ram has better solutions for two out of the three issues for sure and the
gear drive is probably superior but there aren't many flying yet.
For me knowing Ron's capabilities I would work thru him to provide some
mounts to turn the offset the other way.
Sure the cowling will need adjustment probably but the ZAC cowl won't fit
the Stratus hardly anyway so the additional modification is small potatoes
for a much better package IMHO.
Frank
322 hours
I think both are good engines, plenty of Stratus' flying for many years,
probably the most proven and reliable EA-81 package there is. Simple is
good and cheaper.
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| Subject: | Zenith in Seattle |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <george.pinneo@ngc.com>
I'm not in your area, but you can fly for free in my right seat!
Do not archive
GGP
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| Subject: | Zenith in Seattle |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "HINDE,FRANK (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
If you want to come down to CVO (two hours from Seattle by plane) I'd be
more than welcome to give you some stick time.
Frank
HDS/Stratus with Ram heads
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of j.breit
Subject: Zenith-List: Zenith in Seattle
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "j.breit" <j.breit@comcast.net>
I've just finished building a CH601HDS and I'm looking for someone in the
area that I could fly with in an HD, HDS or XL in preparation for first
flight in my airplane. Would be glad to pay gas money just for a little
right seat experience.
advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Doug Mattson" <dougmattson@isp.com>
What did you 601 builders use to make the seat frames for covering out of?
Also when I applied for registration I sent copies of the invoice. The FAA
replied that was unacceptable and insists on a bill of sale.
How does this work? I don't have one.
Doug Mattson
601XL
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| Subject: | Ray Allen Trim indicator |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lance Gingell" <lgingell@matrix-logic.com>
When I got my 601XL tail kit from Zenith, the included elevator trim
indicator was the Ray Allen RP2 - the needle indicator. I know that the
demo XL has the RP3 LED indicator.
(http://www.rayallencompany.com/products/indsens.html)
What have other folks got in their kits? RP2 or RP3 (LED).
Anyone flying these? Which would you recommend?
I personally think I like the RP3 LED indicator best, and I was going to
ask ZAC or Ray Allen if I could swap out my sealed up RP2.
Any thoughts appreciated.
..lance
N601LG Rudder + Tail complete.
Wings on order (still), Fuse kit on order.
San Rafael, CA
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| Subject: | Harbor Freight Riveter |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lance Gingell" <lgingell@matrix-logic.com>
I bought a hand riveter from Harbor Freight this weeked...for $6.99!
I tried the custom heads from the pnematic riveter that I bought from
ZAC on it, and they fitted perfectly. A bargain for those hard to reach
places.
I tried it out...just to see what 'quiet' manual riveting was
like...well, all I can say is that I pity anyone trying to build an
airplane with a manual riveter!
Cheers.
..lance
N601LG Rudder + Tail complete.
Wings on order (still), Fuse kit on order.
San Rafael, CA
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| Subject: | Re: Seats for 601 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Randy Stout <n282rs@earthlink.net>
Doug
Call Zenith and ask them for one. They don't send it out to you until you are about
ready for inspection.
I think my seats are made out of 1/4" plywood and covered with foam and fabric.
Randy Stout - San Antonio
n282rs@earthlink.net ***new email address***
www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Mattson <dougmattson@isp.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Seats for 601
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Doug Mattson" <dougmattson@isp.com>
What did you 601 builders use to make the seat frames for covering out of?
Also when I applied for registration I sent copies of the invoice. The FAA
replied that was unacceptable and insists on a bill of sale.
How does this work? I don't have one.
Doug Mattson
601XL
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| Subject: | Re: Ray Allen Trim indicator |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Ray Montagne <ac6qj@earthlink.net>
On 5/3/04 8:34 PM, "Lance Gingell" <lgingell@matrix-logic.com> wrote:
> What have other folks got in their kits? RP2 or RP3 (LED).
> Anyone flying these? Which would you recommend?
>
Mine came with the meter movement and I'm staying with it. LED's can be
difficult to see in direct sunlight...
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Best Regards, Ray Montagne
Cupertino, CA
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| Subject: | Re: Harbor Freight Riveter |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: xl <xl@prosody.org>
I wore out 2 hand riveters on my 601XL. I like the feeling.
I built it with my own hand! Actually I had to stand on the riveter
to pull the A6SS rivets in the brake hinges - nearly broke the tool.
Joe
N633Z @ AWO
19.8 hours!
P.S. I took 633Z joy-flying for the first time today.
No data recording, just getting the feel of it
(at gross weight with 240# of sandbags).
The site picture and handling are significantly
different with the extra weight. And it doesn't
slow down as fast after touchdown.
The clouds kept me within site of AWO.
I flew around at 2500 feet scouting airfields.
Woooooooooowie! do not archive
On Mon, 3 May 2004, Lance Gingell wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lance Gingell" <lgingell@matrix-logic.com>
> .....snip ...snip
> I tried it out...just to see what 'quiet' manual riveting was
> like...well, all I can say is that I pity anyone trying to build an
> airplane with a manual riveter!
>
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