---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 05/15/04: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:13 AM - Re: Hobbs Meter Pressure Switch (Ron DeWees) 2. 06:41 AM - Stratus Bing Carb Cable Hookup (Andrew SanClemente) 3. 09:36 AM - Suzuki 1.3L 4 cyl 8 valve in a 701? (Rick Roberts) 4. 01:38 PM - aileron trim (David Barth) 5. 03:21 PM - Re: Hobbs Meter Pressure Switch (nhulin) 6. 03:42 PM - Rotax 912 - Manifold Pressure (Thilo Kind) 7. 04:32 PM - Re: aileron trim (Dave Austin) 8. 06:15 PM - 601 XL plans on e-bay (David Barth) 9. 06:46 PM - stabilizer FTT reinforcement rib (Danny Dubois) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:13:04 AM PST US From: "Ron DeWees" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Hobbs Meter Pressure Switch --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ron DeWees" Hi Leo, Sounds like you have solved your own problem. I'ld always go with an electrical solution rather than a mechanical one. If either your coolant or oil leaked or bled out from your extra connections you would have SERIOUS problems. A failed relay would be a hinderance, but not a show stopper. I bought a pressure switch at Sun n Fun for the same purpose and ended up just connecting the hobbs to the alternator switch. I won't fly much without the alternator so it should be pretty accurate. Good luck Ron DeWees do not archive "snip" > Second thoughts on my message below. I am using a relay, normally > closed connection, to turn on a flashing red LED as an alternator > warning light. It flashes until the alternator warning light output > from the voltage regulator turns it off. >"snip" > Comments on this solution vs pressure switch appreciated. > > Leo Gates wrote: > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:41:10 AM PST US From: Andrew SanClemente Subject: Zenith-List: Stratus Bing Carb Cable Hookup --> Zenith-List message posted by: Andrew SanClemente When hooking the cable into the Stratus Bing Carbs, I was wondering how people are securing the black sleeve that the cable runs through at the Carb? I noticed in Zeniths instructions to use a piece of 1/4 tube to help secure this (Not sure how though). Currently my sleeves are just resting inside of that little attach point above where the cable is secured. All help appreciated, Thanks Andrew When hooking the cable into the Stratus Bing Carbs, I was wondering how people are securing the black sleeve that the cable runs through at the Carb? I noticed in Zeniths instructions to use a piece of 1/4 tube to help secure this (Not sure how though). Currently my sleeves are just resting inside of that little attach point above where the cable is secured. All help appreciated, Thanks Andrew ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:36:47 AM PST US From: Rick Roberts Subject: Zenith-List: Suzuki 1.3L 4 cyl 8 valve in a 701? --> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick Roberts From all I can pull from the digest, this combo will work for a 701: Suzuki 1.3L 4 cyl 8 valve engine with redrive from Cleo or Raven and engine mount from Raven. Fraction of the price of a 912. Is anybody flying this setup? Thanks in advance, Rick --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:38:28 PM PST US From: David Barth Subject: Zenith-List: aileron trim --> Zenith-List message posted by: David Barth A question for all of you who use aileron trim. Do you ending up using both left and right trim? or Do you primarily use just one side. I am looking at using a trim system that has just .5 inches instead of the .7 inches specified by the plans for the XL. I was wondering if all that travel could be used in one direction (going from neutral to full in one direction only) Anyone have any thoughts to share on this? Thanks for your assistance. david ===== David Barth 601 XL Plansbuilder 15% done? Making Spars - ready for Chromate and riveting __________________________________ http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:21:00 PM PST US From: "nhulin" Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Hobbs Meter Pressure Switch --> Zenith-List message posted by: "nhulin" On Fri May 14 - 10:07 PM, Leo Gates wrote regarding Hobbs Meter Pressure Switch > Second thoughts on my message below. I am using a relay, normally > closed connection, to turn on a flashing red LED as an alternator > warning light. It flashes until the alternator warning light output > from the voltage regulator turns it off. Leo, Sounds like a great solution. I've been thinking about the pressure sensor to control the hobbs and override the aux fuel pump in the case of a crash. I have the GRT EIS-6000 with analogue oil pressure sensor so I'd have to fork out to get another pressure switch and then add complexity to install it. (Adding complexity is always a bad idea in my book, ranks right up there with adding money). Is there anything trick about the flashing LED? Does it just sub for the normal idiot light? Sounds like it doubles as a Master switch warning as well. With due respect to Bryan's suggestion about a specialized double throw pressure switch from an alphabet company, why not take the idea one step further and simply add a $1.85 automotive relay to get SPDT operation from the standard SPST pressure switch? Tailwinds, ...neil 601XL/Corvair/Dual Stick Fuselage and stuff Cincinnati --- Email certified virus free when sent from original author. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:42:20 PM PST US From: "Thilo Kind" Subject: Zenith-List: Rotax 912 - Manifold Pressure --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thilo Kind" Hi everybody, after some time of trying to figure out, why my Rotax 912 wouldn't start anymore I got it running again. Problems have been a bad battery (RPM below 300, thus no ignition) and an out of sync choke on both carburetors. With the Rotax running again I was able to fly my CH 601 HDS for the first time with the new Woodcomp SR 3000 inflight adjustable propeller. Don't have enough data yet, but speed increased. I saw 120 mph at approx. 75 % power. Will report more details in a few days. Anyway, after the first flight with an inflight adjustable propeller I have some questions: - How do you guys with in-flight adjustable propellers determine pitch and power settings? Do you use manifold pressure? - I have the EIS 2000 from Grand Rapids with one channel still available. Talked to Greg from Grand Rapids during Sun'n Fun. Grand Rapids sells the manifold pressure for the 912, but the price is somewhat steep. Does anybody use the EIS 2000 with manifold pressure sensor? What sensor is being used? What are the settings for the Aux channel of the EIS 2000? Thanks Thilo Kind ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:32:40 PM PST US From: "Dave Austin" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: aileron trim --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Austin" David, I have aileron trim on the stbd side far enough out to clear the prop wash. Mine is the 7 inches and needs about one third of its' travel to compensate for a 200 lb passenger. I've always thought that if the aileron cables came loose, I could use the trim to get home. The extra leverage could do that. You don't want to have the trim tab normally going too far one way or the other, as beyond a certain point it does create drag with lesser trim result. If you make it too small you could reach that point. Dave Austin 601HDS - 912 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:15:26 PM PST US From: David Barth Subject: Zenith-List: 601 XL plans on e-bay --> Zenith-List message posted by: David Barth For you dreamers on the list. Stop dreaming - there is a set of plans on ebay for the 601 xl see item 2478724833 happy hunting David ===== David Barth 601 XL Plansbuilder 15% done? Making Spars - ready for Chromate and riveting __________________________________ http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:46:34 PM PST US From: "Danny Dubois" Subject: Zenith-List: stabilizer FTT reinforcement rib --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Danny Dubois" Hi to all of you. I'm building from plan, and I just did the fibreglass tail tips of the stabilizer like the article of Scott Laughlin in Kit Planes. Did like the experience but I'm not having fun doing fibreglass... I want to know the thickness of the reinforcement rib in the kit or what did you use for it . I did make my form and one rib with a small piece left over with .016 but I feel not comfortable using that. So do it is .016 inches or .025 inches Thank you in advance Danny Dubois Plan builder of a 601 XL Rudder completed Elevator completed Stabilizer ready to rivet the skin when the tip would be finish And 95% to go .... do not archive. ---