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1. 03:32 AM - Hog Air "T" shirts (Brett)
2. 04:21 AM - Re: Zenith 701 engine mount. (Johann)
3. 06:30 AM - BMW R1100 engine. (Dirk Slabbert)
4. 06:39 AM - Re: Preflight experience (The Meiste's)
5. 07:39 AM - Re: B.J Schwaller's Zenith 701 N452BJ Flys (RURUNY@aol.com)
6. 09:15 AM - Re: Spring Load Steering Rods on 701 (Jon Croke)
7. 04:04 PM - Re: Zenith 701 engine mount. (Mike Fothergill)
8. 04:14 PM - fuel tank offset for 601 (Bob Miller)
9. 04:45 PM - N701SZ First flight today (Ken Szewc)
10. 05:26 PM - Re:unsubscribe (Kwork9@aol.com)
11. 05:29 PM - Re: N701SZ First flight today (Larry McFarland)
12. 06:08 PM - Re: fuel tank offset for 601 (George Swinford)
13. 06:57 PM - Re: Stratus Alternator - Backup Ignition - Reverse Throttle (j.breit)
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| Subject: | Hog Air "T" shirts |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brett " <brett@hog-air.com>
Hog Air "T" shirts are now available.
We have had alot of people asking for them. So I thought I'd let you
guys know. You can see them here http://www.hog-air.com/Shirts.htm
Thanks
Brett Ray
www.hog-air.com
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| Subject: | Zenith 701 engine mount. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann" <johann@gi.is>
Hi Bill.
I could be doing that. The rating on the bolts that came with the engine to
mount it on a bracket in the box are rated 8.8 which could be the metric
scale hardening, but the requirement is for a 12.9 rating to mount the
engine on the plane.
According to the Aircraft Spruce Catalog, the AN hardware is high strength
4037 or 8740 alloy steel. Minimum tensile strength 125,000 PSI.
I would not know the difference between the two. It just looked much weaker
than the thick high strength M10 bolt for someone who does not know the
difference. Always learning.
Best regards,
Johann G.
Iceland.
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Cardell
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Zenith 701 engine mount.
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bill Cardell <bill@flyinmiata.com>
Johann,
Aren't you mixing two types of ratings, metric and SAE?
Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad)
bill@flyinmiata.com
Flyin' Miata
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-----Original Message-----
From: Johann [mailto:johann@gi.is]
Subject: Zenith-List: Zenith 701 engine mount.
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann" <johann@gi.is>
Hi list members.
I was just bolting the rotax 912 engine to my engine mount and was wondering
about the bolts which attatch the engine to the mounts.
To bolt the steel E1-1X to the engine, an M10 x1.25x20 8mm key 12,9 hardened
bolts are used. But the steel bracket is bolted on the dynafocal bracket
E2-1X
with an AN4-10A bolt. Hardned 8.8? I am no engineer, but somehow this seems
to be a much weeker attatchment than all the others. So this would be the
weekest link?
Please correct me if I am wrong here. Am I missing something here? Is this
strong enough for the force of Rotax 912 80 hp shaking?
Just wondering if anyone has thought about this.
Best regards,
Johann G.
Iceland.
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| Subject: | BMW R1100 engine. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dirk Slabbert" <dirkslabbert@telkomsa.net>
One cannot help but consider this engine, looks better than the 912 on paper ?
Does anyone know of such an installation in a 701 ?
Thanks,
Dirk.
701 Kit
Piketberg
South Africa
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| Subject: | Re: Preflight experience |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "The Meiste's" <meiste@essex1.com>
This experience will have made my first flight a much safer one and my wife
and I are very thankful to Kelly Meiste for that. Most fun I've had in a
long time.
>
> Thanks again Kelly!
>
> Larry McFarland - 601HDS
>
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Your very welcome Larry, & thanks for the kind words!
By the way Larry did his flying from the right seat, something I would NOT
have enjoyed.
Looking forward to your first flight report from N601EZ, have fun!
Kelly
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| Subject: | re: B.J Schwaller's Zenith 701 N452BJ Flys |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com
BJ,
Congratulations on the first flight!
Brian
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| Subject: | Re: Spring Load Steering Rods on 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
Way cool!
They're on the site now!
www.ch701.com
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <earthloc@att.net>
>
> Completed my spring loaded steering rods today. Pictures were sent to the
pictures@matronics.com and to www.ch701.com.
> This setup allows several adjustments that the solid rods do not. The
main reason I am using it is because it allows you to push rudder without
the front wheel turning until it rolls. This depends on how much tension
you put on the springs. Take a look and if there are any questions, I will
try to answer them. Them is the same setup I used on my RAF 2000 gyroplanes
and it worked real fine then. Of course I haven't flown it on a 701 yet.
Larry N1345L
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith 701 engine mount. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill <mfothergill@sympatico.ca>
Hi;
I for one, used 5/16 (AN5) bolts
Mike
UHS Spinners
Johann wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann" <johann@gi.is>
>
> Hi list members.
>
> I was just bolting the rotax 912 engine to my engine mount and was wondering
> about the bolts which attatch the engine to the mounts.
> To bolt the steel E1-1X to the engine, an M10 x1.25x20 8mm key 12,9 hardened
> bolts are used. But the steel bracket is bolted on the dynafocal bracket
> E2-1X
> with an AN4-10A bolt. Hardned 8.8? I am no engineer, but somehow this seems
> to be a much weeker attatchment than all the others. So this would be the
> weekest link?
> Please correct me if I am wrong here. Am I missing something here? Is this
> strong enough for the force of Rotax 912 80 hp shaking?
>
> Just wondering if anyone has thought about this.
>
> Best regards,
> Johann G.
> Iceland.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | fuel tank offset for 601 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" <drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
I'm close to ready to mount the gas tank, but am a little nervous about
The plans say to set the fuel tank off one-half inch from the firewall, but my
tank is made such that to have the fuel filler above the cowling I'll have to
tilt it to about one and one-half inches from firewall. This means the tank will
be resting only on the straps, and this set up looks kinda flimsy to hold
up a full tank weighing almost 130 pounds.
Has anybody provided extra support for the tank? And if so, howdja do it?
Bob
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| Subject: | N701SZ First flight today |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Ken Szewc <szewc@direcway.com>
To all,
N701SZ had it's maiden voyage today. A tense but exiting moment for sure. It took
me a year to put the thing together but after today it was all worth it.
Everything worked as designed. Trim is dead center at cruise, wings stay level
in flight and cruise was about 90mph.
Prop is pitched a bit too high (912ULS, 14 degrees with 70" Warp drive prop), RPM
was 5000 static and would only go up to 5200~5300 in level flight, I will try
12 degrees for the next set of flights.
I want to thank everyone on this list for the HUGE contribution to building this
airplane. There is an incredible amount of knowledge and experience in the archives,
both good and bad, to learn from.
I will post more performance numbers as I get them.
Ken Szewc
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Kwork9@aol.com
unsubscribe
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| Subject: | Re: N701SZ First flight today |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
Congratulations Ken. Gotta be real exciting to finally use the wings
you've put together. It's validation with a new freedom.
Good luck and fly safe.
Larry McFarland
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Szewc" <szewc@direcway.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: N701SZ First flight today
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Ken Szewc <szewc@direcway.com>
>
> To all,
> N701SZ had it's maiden voyage today. A tense but exiting moment for sure.
It took me a year to put the thing together but after today it was all worth
it.
>
> Everything worked as designed. Trim is dead center at cruise, wings stay
level in flight and cruise was about 90mph.
>
> Prop is pitched a bit too high (912ULS, 14 degrees with 70" Warp drive
prop), RPM was 5000 static and would only go up to 5200~5300 in level
flight, I will try 12 degrees for the next set of flights.
>
> I want to thank everyone on this list for the HUGE contribution to
building this airplane. There is an incredible amount of knowledge and
experience in the archives, both good and bad, to learn from.
>
> I will post more performance numbers as I get them.
>
> Ken Szewc
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: fuel tank offset for 601 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "George Swinford" <grs-pms@comcast.net>
Hi Bob:
I had the same problem with the 8 gallon fuselage tank on my 601HD. I made a
50 by 20mm angle, the same length as 6-F-8-1 and rivetted it to 6-F-8-1,
with the 20mm flange facing down. That made a sort of shelf for the tank to
rest on. I added three triangular support brackets under the shelf, one in
the center and one on each side. The free edge of each bracket has a
stiffening flange.They are fastened to the shelf and the firewall. There is
an .025 angle rivetted to the shelf, flange facing up, to position the
bottom end of the fuel tank. This angle lies on top of the tank support
straps as they cross the shelf, and is the same length as the shelf.
At the same width as the tank I rivetted vertical channel-shaped members to
space the tank away from the firewall. These channels are made from two
overlapping angles, rivetted together. The width of each channel is the same
as the distance from the firewall to the "flange-up" angle on the shelf, and
they extend up from the shelf to the flange on the firewall. If you find
that the tank doesn't want to fit quite parallel to the firewall you can
taper the channels as necessary as you rivet them together.
I made two short straps with end fittings like the 6-F-16-5 tank support
straps, and rivetted one to each of the vertical channels. An extruded
aluminum angle a couple of inches longer than the tank is wide is bolted to
the short straps, holding the tank snug against the vertical channels and
the upward facing angle on the shelf. That way, the neck of the tank doesn't
touch the edge of the hole in the top skin. The angle also stiffens the back
side of the tank.
All the added parts were bent up from .025 sheet. All surfaces that touch
the tank are padded with 1/8 inch cork that I bought at a craft store.
I hope this gives you some ideas you can use.
George
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Miller" <drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: fuel tank offset for 601
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller"
<drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
>
> I'm close to ready to mount the gas tank, but am a little nervous about
>
> The plans say to set the fuel tank off one-half inch from the firewall,
but my tank is made such that to have the fuel filler above the cowling I'll
have to tilt it to about one and one-half inches from firewall. This means
the tank will be resting only on the straps, and this set up looks kinda
flimsy to hold up a full tank weighing almost 130 pounds.
>
> Has anybody provided extra support for the tank? And if so, howdja do it?
> Bob
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stratus Alternator - Backup Ignition - Reverse Throttle |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "j.breit" <j.breit@comcast.net>
The notes I have from Mike Templeton say it's a Suzuki Samiri # 14684.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew SanClemente" <ansancle@townisp.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Stratus Alternator - Backup Ignition - Reverse
Throttle
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Andrew SanClemente
<ansancle@townisp.com>
>
> Does anyone have a part number to replace the alternator that comes
> on the stratus motor? I would like to find the same one so the wiring
> and mounting brackets all line up. On my alternator it says "NIP P/N
> 14684" but I can't get any hits on that when searching.
>
> Also, my backup ignition is junk (never worked), looking for options
> to replace that, again - reusing mount points and wiring most
> desirable. So if anyone has part numbers etc. it would be greatly
> appreciated!
>
>
> Last - My throttles on the Bing Carbs are setup in such a manner that
> when the arms are deflected fully down its at idle, full up is full
throttle.
> This results in having to pull out for full power and push in for idle,
opposite
> of what it should be. My springs pull to idle, not full power as I guess
was intended
> by Zenith. Any suggestions?
>
>
> Thanks
> Andrew
>
>
> Does anyone have a part number to replace the alternator that comes
> on the stratus motor? I would like to find the same one so the wiring
> and mounting brackets all line up. On my alternator it says NIP P/N
> 14684 but I can't get any hits on that when searching.
>
> Also, my backup ignition is junk (never worked), looking for options
> to replace that, again - reusing mount points and wiring most
> desirable. So if anyone has part numbers etc. it would be greatly
> appreciated!
>
>
> Last - My throttles on the Bing Carbs are setup in such a manner that
> when the arms are deflected fully down its at idle, full up is full
throttle.
> This results in having to pull out for full power and push in for idle, o
pposite
> of what it should be. My springs pull to idle, not full power as I guess
was intended
> by Zenith. Any suggestions?
>
>
> Thanks
> Andrew
>
>
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