Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 07:40 AM - Re: aircraft lighting (nhulin)
2. 09:13 AM - N701SZ (RURUNY@aol.com)
3. 10:58 AM - Re: N701SZ First flight today (Michel Therrien)
4. 11:01 AM - Question on setting valve lifters (gpjann@juno.com)
5. 12:06 PM - [ Larry Martin ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
6. 12:57 PM - Re: N701SZ First flight today (Steve Dixon)
7. 04:20 PM - Rudder twist (Joseph Kerr)
8. 04:50 PM - Re: Rudder twist (Joemotis@aol.com)
9. 06:25 PM - spring loaded rods (Chesterman Family)
10. 08:03 PM - Re: aircraft lighting (Bryan Martin)
11. 08:14 PM - Re: Antennas (Bryan Martin)
12. 08:20 PM - Re: Rudder twist (Roger Roy)
13. 08:20 PM - Re: Cable parts. (Bryan Martin)
14. 08:40 PM - holes askewed (Jack Russell)
15. 09:07 PM - Re: Cable parts. (Joemotis@aol.com)
16. 09:15 PM - Re: holes askewed (Joemotis@aol.com)
17. 09:28 PM - Re: Rudder twist (JERICKSON03E@aol.com)
Message 1
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: aircraft lighting |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "nhulin" <nhulin@hotmail.com>
On Fri Jun 04 - 7:12 PM louiscfi (at) comcast.net wrote:
<snip> has anyone had much luck converting auto HID lighting for a
landing/taxi light.<snip>
Louis,
I have installed normal 6x4 automotive hi/lo beam in each wing with 130/90w
H4 lamps. Total cost was about USD30. The hi beam is landing, the lo beam is
taxi. Not a new idea. Bob Nucholls promotes this route for many very good
reasons, not the least of which is the cost of "authentic" aircraft sealed
beam lamps.
Using the mounting bracket in the plans as my guide I fabricated suitable
mounts and two riblets (one for each wing w/opposite flanges). The
installation isn't that difficult. If you are working on your wings you
already have developed the skills required. The cutout in the LE skin is the
same as on the plans except the width is adjusted to suit the type of light.
I have some pics that I can send off-list for anyone who wants to see what I
did. It isn't anything fancy.
Alternatively, I have a friend using some very neat 12V/55W halogens with
built-in reflectors that are only about 2-1/2 inches across. Check on the RV
list since those guys tend to use these smaller lights.
Tailwinds, ...neil
601XL/Corvair/Dual Stick
Fuselage and Instr. Panel
---
Email certified virus free when sent from original author.
Message 2
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com
Ken,
I've been following all your updates on the Zenith builders site. 1 year to
build and fly it
is amazing. Terrific workmanship. Congratulations on the very sucessful first
flight. Hope to meet up half way at Oshkosh one day.
Brian
Message 3
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: N701SZ First flight today |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
Congralulations! One year... this is impressive!
--- Ken Szewc <szewc@direcway.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Ken Szewc
> <szewc@direcway.com>
>
> To all,
> N701SZ had it's maiden voyage today. A tense but
> exiting moment for sure. It took me a year to put
> the thing together but after today it was all worth
> it.
>
> Everything worked as designed. Trim is dead center
> at cruise, wings stay level in flight and cruise was
> about 90mph.
>
> Prop is pitched a bit too high (912ULS, 14 degrees
> with 70" Warp drive prop), RPM was 5000 static and
> would only go up to 5200~5300 in level flight, I
> will try 12 degrees for the next set of flights.
>
> I want to thank everyone on this list for the HUGE
> contribution to building this airplane. There is an
> incredible amount of knowledge and experience in the
> archives, both good and bad, to learn from.
>
> I will post more performance numbers as I get them.
>
> Ken Szewc
>
=====
----------------------------
Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby
http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
__________________________________
http://messenger.yahoo.com/
Message 4
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Question on setting valve lifters |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: gpjann@juno.com
I'm using WW's method in setting my valve lifters.
WW's procedure is to position the pushrod and cam half way through
lifting the valve, then tightening the rocker.
I am concerned that I do not understand the correct procedure for two
reasons.
After setting lifters there is a lot of play (about 3/16" gap) between
the rocker and pushrod after rotating crank, and the pushrod oiling can
get out of alignment with the rocker..
If this is correct how do you keep the pushrod oiling hole in line with
the rocker?
Would greatly appreciate any help you can offer.
Thanks,
Greg J.
Message 5
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | [ Larry Martin ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares <pictures@matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Larry Martin <earthloc@att.net>
Subject: Spring loaded steering rods on a 701
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/earthloc@att.net.06.06.2004/index.html
o Main Photo Share Index
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
o Submitting a Photo Share
If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the
following information along with your email message and files:
1) Email List or Lists that they are related to:
2) Your Full Name:
3) Your Email Address:
4) One line Subject description:
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic:
6) One-line Description of each photo or file:
Email the information above and your files and photos to:
pictures@matronics.com
Message 6
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: N701SZ First flight today |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Steve Dixon" <dix39@charter.net>
It is even more impressive when you see the airplane, beautifully done!
Congratulations Ken!!
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Therrien" <mtherr@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: N701SZ First flight today
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
>
> Congralulations! One year... this is impressive!
>
> --- Ken Szewc <szewc@direcway.com> wrote:
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Ken Szewc
> > <szewc@direcway.com>
> >
> > To all,
> > N701SZ had it's maiden voyage today. A tense but
> > exiting moment for sure. It took me a year to put
> > the thing together but after today it was all worth
> > it.
> >
> > Everything worked as designed. Trim is dead center
> > at cruise, wings stay level in flight and cruise was
> > about 90mph.
> >
> > Prop is pitched a bit too high (912ULS, 14 degrees
> > with 70" Warp drive prop), RPM was 5000 static and
> > would only go up to 5200~5300 in level flight, I
> > will try 12 degrees for the next set of flights.
> >
> > I want to thank everyone on this list for the HUGE
> > contribution to building this airplane. There is an
> > incredible amount of knowledge and experience in the
> > archives, both good and bad, to learn from.
> >
> > I will post more performance numbers as I get them.
> >
> > Ken Szewc
> >
>
> =====
> ----------------------------
> Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ
> http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
> http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby
> http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
>
>
> __________________________________
> http://messenger.yahoo.com/
>
>
Message 7
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Joseph Kerr" <kerrjf@charter.net>
Hi List-
I have all the holes drilled out to #30 on my rudder skin (not yet riveted), but
it seems I've introduced some twist somewhere. My guess is the leading edge
skin and its 'springiness' pushed the spar a little off the front beam. The
bottom of the trailing edge is 12 to 15 mm out of alignment with the top of the
trailing edge. What do you all think--Scrap the rudder?
--Joe
Message 8
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Rudder twist |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com
Joe
Any chance you could cleco it lightly and get the twist out and then redrill
it for A5 rivets?
Joe Motis
601 XL
Serial No. 5365
Another victim, as of today, of the bad pre drilled holes on the bottom wing
skins
Hi Mark, Bill and Jack
Do not archive
Message 9
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | spring loaded rods |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Chesterman Family <chesterman@on.aibn.com>
i have been flamed before for being honest but here goes anyway. the workmanship
looks
great but you have changed a simple design that i feel is going to cause a potential
for distorted rudder horn. when you push hard on the brakes the rudder cables tighten
slightly but the brunt of the force is taken by the two rods going to the strut
on the
origional design. this stops the pedals from moving and applies the hyd brake
cylinders. with your design the rudder cables will see hard pulling on both cables
at
once when you try to apply the brakes and those nice springs let both pedals go
forward
at once. given enough cycles you will surely pull the rivets loose off the rudder
horn.
in fact a good hard application during run up could end up with a disconnected
rudder.
dave c
701 completed and flying since 97
> o S================================================
Message 10
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: aircraft lighting |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
on 6/4/04 9:45 PM, louiscfi@comcast.net at louiscfi@comcast.net wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: louiscfi@comcast.net
>
> I am about to order the options for my kit which is to be delivered next
> month. Just wondering if anyone has researched the pros and cons and the
> availability of alternative lighting. LED vs Normal nav/strobe lighting.
> Also has anyone had much luck converting auto HID lighting for a landing/taxi
> light. I have seen some aviation specific kits for about $400 per light. I
> really like the idea of HID w/ more light and less heat and the ability to
> just leave it on all the time, but $800+ for taxi and ldg lights ouch.
>
> --
> Louis
> 601xl, corvair pwr
> j-41 capt
> CFII SMEL
> Keep the greasy side down.
>
JC Whitney has HID lights for only $300 each, but you have to buy then in
pairs.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
Construction complete.
Getting the paperwork in order.
do not archive.
Message 11
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
on 6/1/04 10:12 PM, Larry Martin at earthloc@att.net wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <earthloc@att.net>
>
> I know very little (very little means almost nothing) about antennas and their
> placements. On my 701 I will have four different antennas. Com, transponder,
> GPS and ELT. My current plan is to place all of them on top of the fuselage
> directly behind the luggage compartment. My questions are, is that an
> acceptable location?, does it matter how close one is to the other?, do they
> interfere with each other? Or is there a preferred configuration? Do I need
> to install any inline filters?
> I know to some these are dump ass questions, but I would rather ask them now
> than redo later. Loading me up with technical reasons and data will just go
> over my head, straight forward answers I will understand. I know how to do
> all the necessary wiring.
> Any help will be appreciated. Larry N1345L
>
>
> Take a look, www.gyrostabs.com
>
Check the recommendations of the avionics manufacturers. I know Garmin
generally recommends that the GPS antenna be mounted at least three feet
from the Com antenna.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
Construction complete.
Getting the paperwork in order.
do not archive.
Message 12
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Rudder twist |
Seal-Send-Time: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 23:19:59 -0400
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Roger Roy" <Savannah174@msn.com>
Joe, you might consider taking all the clecos out and place the rib/spar
skeleton and skin on the spacers that the plans call for and manually line
the skin holes with the rib holes, you may be only a couple of holes off,
You can re-drill those hole even a slightly elongated rivet hole will be
filled when the rivet is pulled
RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Kerr" <kerrjf@charter.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Rudder twist
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Joseph Kerr" <kerrjf@charter.net>
>
> Hi List-
> I have all the holes drilled out to #30 on my rudder skin (not yet
> riveted), but it seems I've introduced some twist somewhere. My guess is
> the leading edge skin and its 'springiness' pushed the spar a little off
> the front beam. The bottom of the trailing edge is 12 to 15 mm out of
> alignment with the top of the trailing edge. What do you all think--Scrap
> the rudder?
> --Joe
>
>
>
Message 13
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Cable parts. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
on 5/31/04 11:36 PM, Joemotis@aol.com at Joemotis@aol.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com
>
> Hi Larry
> As I am awaiting my control kit from ZAC right now it seems I am walking into
> the same thing. Would you mind posting the part numbers for the turn buckles
> when you get them I am guessing that they are going to be off the shelf
> Aircraft Spruce kind of hardware? Or any other helpfulls to the Inexperienced
> riggers out there. Using myself as the prime example.Rigged an outboard
> once...
> Joe Motis
> 601 XL
> Do not archive
>
My XL came with the turnbuckles.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
Construction complete.
Getting the paperwork in order.
do not archive.
Message 14
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jack Russell <clojan@sbcglobal.net>
Another victim, as of today, of the bad pre drilled holes on the bottom wing
skins
Hi Mark, Bill and Jack
Joe: On my travel about the country I made it to mexico and got a flight in the
xl with Roger. I talked to him about the skins and he showed me how they drill.
It would be easy to make a mistake. He also said that they are working on the
ability to drill all the skins.I hope they get a computer to do it. I told
him that when I get the blank skins at least I know they are right. That is until
I drill them wrong! I am back in the building mode now and have installed
the flaps and have found that the rivet lines on the flaps do not line up with
the rivet lines on the rear ribs on the wing. Off by about 5mm when placed 85mm
from the #7 rib. I am checking with some others who have finish there wings
about this. It doesn't look bad though. Jack
Jack Russell -Clovis CA
601 XL Jabiru 3300
Progress update at:
http://www.geocities.com/clojan@sbcglobal.net/zodiacbarn.html
Message 15
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Cable parts. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com
Thanks, Bryan
You And Mike Fortuanoto have eased my mind. Now, if only ZAC will come
through in a timely matter regarding the improperly drilled bottom skins that I
recieved as per Mark Stauffer, Bill Sewell and Jack Russell
Thanks again
Joe
601XL
Do not archive
Message 16
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: holes askewed |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com
Hey Jack
Glad you and the Mrs. made it home safe! And if you managed to pull a flight
off in the Zenith demo I know you had a great trip. As for the rivet lines not
lining up, I can live with that. But no way am I going to bend the crap out
of the ribsn after all that careful layout, to make them fit! Anyhow, let me
know what you find out.
Welcome home
Joe
Message 17
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Rudder twist |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JERICKSON03E@aol.com
In a message dated 6/6/2004 6:21:26 PM Central Daylight Time,
kerrjf@charter.net writes:
> What do you all think--Scrap the rudder?
> --Joe
>
Joe, There are lot's of rudders out there as the result of the rudder
workshop's.
If yours can't be salvaged, you could advertise for one already built.
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|