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1. 05:19 AM - Re: Rotax 912 UL (Thilo Kind)
2. 07:30 AM - Re: N701TD (the taildragger) Flies! (David Barth)
3. 08:55 AM - Re: First-time Zodiac 601 builder questions? (Leo J. Corbalis)
4. 01:30 PM - Re: First-time Zodiac 601 builder questions? (nhulin)
5. 03:22 PM - Look at what Dave's up to: new website CH601.org (Jon Croke)
6. 03:35 PM - Re: Introductions, Thank you, and Web site Complement (Gig Giacona)
7. 06:58 PM - PegaStol Wings (Larry Martin)
8. 09:41 PM - Re: PegaStol Wings (Winston Ellis)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thilo Kind" <thilo.kind@gmx.net>
Hi Cleone,
are you talking about the ingition modules? They are made by Duccati - a
good motor byce shop should be able to get them for you for a fraction
of the price from Rotax.
Aslo, was it really the ingnition module, that went bad? Several folks
had trouble with one of the cable connectors to the modules.
Best regards
Thilo Kind
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cleone
Markwell
Subject: Zenith-List: Rotax 912 UL
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Cleone Markwell <cleone@rr1.net>
Dear Listers,
My CH601 HD went through an extensive Inspection of Condition and
then I found that it would not run on one of the modules. It had 257
trouble free hours before I started the inspection. It is an experience
just removing the modules. I sent them to Sebring for a check out.
Also
they are EXPENSIVE! I have never heard of anyone having trouble with
one
before. Being retired and not wealthy this is quite a set-back here. I
have been fortunate to get this far, but now time is fleeting by and no
flying. Hopefully, only one will be bad. Has anyone had this happen
before?
Cleone
In Casey, Illinois
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| Subject: | Re: N701TD (the taildragger) Flies! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: David Barth <davids601xl@yahoo.com>
Congratulations Mike. That is wonderful to hear.!
David
do not archive
--- Mike Sinclair <mike.sinclair@att.net> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Sinclair
> <mike.sinclair@att.net>
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> First flights today. About a dozen landings on two
> different grass strips, one
> paved runway, and then my own little short narrow
> grass strip. The only really
> wild off runway excursion was off the paved strip,
> and it wasn't too bad. Lots
> of room between the two lights this time. Gotta get
> used to this rudder, doesn't
> quite have the effectiveness at the real low speeds
> of a 701 full flare 3 point
> touchdown. Will definitely have to learn to stay
> ahead of it, and not sure what
> the cross wind limits are, but probably not much.
> The ones I had today were
> probably about 5-6 kts. Most runways I will be able
> to land into the wind
> anyway, as short as this thing stops. Quite a bit
> different from the Super
> Decathalon I've been flying for the past week.
> Finesse will come. Had the doors
> off so top speed in level flight only got to around
> 80. Will check against the
> gps on one of the next flights though. Start the
> flare about 40 and it sits down
> nice and soft. Will play with slips again when I put
> the doors back on. Like
> sitting in a wind tunnel with em off. Just too darn
> hot to sit in that green
> house today. Only 38.3 hours to go before I can
> break my 25 mile limit. Lookout
> Oshkosh, here I come!
>
> Mike Sinclair N701TD
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David Barth
601 XL Plansbuilder 15% done?
Making Spars - ready for Chromate and riveting
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| Subject: | Re: First-time Zodiac 601 builder questions? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo J. Corbalis" <leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net>
Make nut plates for main gear. Getting the nuts on is extremely frustrating
because the bungees are in the way. (guess why he didn't put them on)
I had to replace one gear leg and the parts kit from Zenair included the nut
plate parts. They really solve the problem.
Leo Corbalis
> Hi folks, I just took delivery of a 601 project that the previous owner
> decided to not finish (his loss, my gain!)
>
> Anyhow, a few things I wanted to ask the list:
> 2. For some reason the the small bolts around the main landing gear on
> either side don't have the nuts put on. How difficult is it to remove
> the plate to install those? Do I have to drop the landing gear out to
> do this? The bungies are huge and in the way big time.
>
> Trevor Page
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| Subject: | Re: First-time Zodiac 601 builder questions? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "nhulin" <nhulin@hotmail.com>
On: Tue Jun 22 - 7:29 PM, Trevor Page (webmaster@upac.ca) wrote:
Hi folks,
<snip>
1. The kit doesn't have any seat belts. I was thinking of going to an
auto wreckers and picking up something out of a small car to use. My
questions is, has anyone else done this? The baggage compartment floor
is complete but clecoed and I thought now is the time to cut a slot in
the floor to pass the ratchet anchor through it and bolt it to the
fuselage bulkhead. Any thoughts on this? Advisable?
<snip>
Trevor,
I didn't use the supplied seat belts but installed a harness. I have a PDF
document that I will send you off-list. Basically it is the recommendations
from the Zenair News #99 from March/April 1997. Mark also points out that a
car seat belt may not be appropriate or acceptable.
If any other Z-listers want a copy of the PDF, email me off-list. If there
is enough interest I can post it to the photoshare or put it up on someone's
web site.
Tailwinds, ...neil
601XL/Corvair
Fuselage and stuff
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Email certified virus free when sent from original author.
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| Subject: | Look at what Dave's up to: new website CH601.org |
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
If you are ONLY interested in 701's then please hit your delete key!
A while back I acquired the domain www.CH601.org but didnt have the
expertise to add good content as a webmaster for this subject matter.
Then... Dave Barth stepped up to the plate and volunteered to give a stab a
it! If you check it out, I'm sure you'll find it quite informative, with
lots of useful technical and social information on buiding 601s of all
types, engine variations, etc. I am now in a pressured situation to make
the 701 site as good as his!
In case you don't remember the particulars about your new webmsater, here is
an excerpt of his biography:
David Barth in Ontario Canada. Building 601 XL from plans and sharing some
forms and sourcing of materials with Al Etherington of Oshawa, Ontario and
Mark Townsend of Alma, Ontario.
44 years old and married with two daughters 9 and 12. I work in a small (4
staff) charity and international development agency in Waterloo and often
travel to Central American and Asian countries to meet with partners.
Started building in June of 2002. Tail feathers done as are ailerons and
flaps. Most parts for the wings are made and ready for assembly. Many parts
are also made for the fuselage - when I get stuck somewhere, I make parts
for another area while I consider the problem. I am getting quite a pile as
I get stuck alot. Currently have a subaru engine but may also consider
changing to a corvair.
Please.. I'll make this request on his behalf... this only works with your
contribution of pictures, stories and helpful building hints. One way
everyone can help is to at least submit your web page address so visitors
have an easy one stop shopping list for seeing what you are up to. This has
worked out well on the 701 site.
Hats off to Dave for his effort so far!
Jon
N701US
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| Subject: | Re: Introductions, Thank you, and Web site Complement |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox-internet.com>
Greg,
Welcome to the family. Like with most families there will be times when you
want to say, "to hell with it", but stick in there. There is light at the
end of the tunnel.
Thanks for the complement on my web site. Especially from someone that seem
to know something about web design.
Gig Giacona
www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <earthloc@att.net>
We finally started the PegaStol (Dedalius Aviation) wings last week. I wasn't
going to say anything until further along in the progress. So things might change
as we progress. But so far;
I am very pleasantly surprised. After building the rest of my 701 kit from Zenith
out of mostly raw materials, I spent most of my time measuring, measuring
and measuring and I would cut it twice and it was still too short.
It is rapidly becoming apparent how well Dedelius has their stuff together. For
example; You cut nothing. All parts are cut to the exact size. You bend nothing,
everything that needs to be bent is bent. The list of tools you will need,
does not include shears. You measure nothing, all rivet holes are pilot drilled.
You don't need a rivet fan. There are eight slat mechanisms. They totally
have one built as an example, plus it's in the manual. Many, many parts are
pre-made. All inspection covers are primed with latches already riveted on.
One thing I really liked is that they package material as components, for example
the slat bars are packaged in one bag with the right amount of rivets, screws,
nuts, bolts, etc that you will need to build them.
The struts are extruded for aerodynamics, not round tubes.
Like I said things may change as I move along, but for now, I am a happy camper.
I'll keep the list posted.
See Ya, Larry Martin N1345L
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| Subject: | Re: PegaStol Wings |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Winston Ellis <w1mdi@cox-internet.com>
Larry
What size extrusion are your struts made from? Are they steel or aluminum? I have
been thinking about using the aerodynamically shaped steel tube from Aircraft
Spruce but wasn't sure what size.
Winston Ellis
Ketchum, Idaho
CH701/Suzuki
Larry Martin wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <earthloc@att.net>
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> We finally started the PegaStol (Dedalius Aviation) wings last week....
> The struts are extruded for aerodynamics, not round tubes.
> Like I said things may change as I move along, but for now, I am a happy camper.
I'll keep the list posted.
>
> See Ya, Larry Martin N1345L
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