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1. 04:27 AM - Re: Re: Heavy left wing problem (Michel Therrien)
2. 06:28 AM - Re: Fuel system (Carlos Sa)
3. 07:52 AM - Fuel sender for header tank (Trevor Page)
4. 08:01 AM - Re: Fuel system (Hinde, Frank George)
5. 08:41 AM - Re: A bit more on heavy left wing problem (John M. Goodings)
6. 09:19 AM - Re: Fuel system (Leo J. Corbalis)
7. 09:42 AM - Re: 701s at Arlington? (Dabusmith@aol.com)
8. 09:44 AM - Re: Fuel system (Hinde, Frank George)
9. 10:33 AM - Re: Fuel system (Graham Kirby)
10. 11:00 AM - Re: Fuel sender for header tank (Larry McFarland)
11. 11:17 AM - Fuel System (Andrew SanClemente)
12. 11:47 AM - Inboard and Outboard Pickups (Andrew SanClemente)
13. 11:58 AM - Re: Fuel system (Hinde, Frank George)
14. 01:38 PM - Re: Stratus Oil Filter (Paul Moore)
15. 02:12 PM - Re: Inboard and Outboard Pickups (Larry McFarland)
16. 05:50 PM - Do I still need my workbench? (Gig Giacona)
17. 07:18 PM - Re: Wing skins (Joemotis@aol.com)
18. 07:23 PM - 601 flight instruction (Bob Miller)
19. 09:04 PM - Re: Hole Finder (Jim Fosse)
20. 10:16 PM - Thrust on engine (Brett)
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| Subject: | Re: Heavy left wing problem |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
Thanks guys, I think this is good information!
do not archive
--- Rick <rick.pitcher@verizon.net> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick
> <rick.pitcher@verizon.net>
>
>
> Did you notice if the ball was centered on the
> turn-and-bank?
> My 601 HD had a heavy left wing too. I could trim it
> out with full
> deflection of the electric aileron trim, but noticed
> that I always
> needed to keep a little right rudder in or the ball
> was off-center.
> Most (all?) factory built planes have a small offset
> in the fixed part
> of the vertical tail to counteract the torque of the
> engine. I finally
> put a small trim tab on the rudder and now the wings
> are level and the
> ball is centered when flying with hands and feet off
> the controls.
>
> Rick P.
>
>
> John M. Goodings wrote:
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "John M.
> Goodings" <goodings@yorku.ca>
> >
> > On our Zodiac CH601HD with Rotax 912S, I believe
> that the angles of
> > incidence of the two wings are identical. The
> aircraft wants to roll to
> > the left when flying hands off. Many others have
> found the same
> > phenomenon. The fix we will do is the following
> (we are copying the
> > successful fix done by another builder). First,
> LOWER the rear Z of the
> > left wing by about 3/16 inch (4-5 mm) by filing an
> elongated hole where
> > the bolt goes through from the centre wing section
> pickup. Then, fly it
> > and see if the correction is sufficient. If not,
> do the same thing to the
> > left wing, but this time, RAISE the rear Z. This
> should be enough.
> > Finally, rivet a little patch of aluminum across
> the elongated hole(s) so
> > that the new position(s) are permanent, and the
> bolt(s) cannot move.
> >
> > John and Peter Goodings, C-FGPJ, CH601HD with
> R912S, Toronto/Waterloo.
> >
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Let me try this again. I'll be more specific:
What internal diameter fuel lines are recommended? I understand larger is better
to minimize vapor
lock, and I see no drawback.
Is aluminium or plastic the preferred material?
What kind of fuel valves? Price range is quite wide (US$22 to US$265 - and more)
Gascolators? Again, from US$53 to US$236...
The only flange I see in the AS&S catalog (2001/2002, page 157) is intended for
welding. Looks
like drilling and rivetting it should pose no problem. Suggestions? Alternatives?
Thanks for any input
Carlos
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Hello, all
I'm about ready to start building the wing (lead edge) tanks (601-HD).
I'll be putting it together the RV way, i.e., with rivets (cherry rivets, probably).
I thought some of you folks that have already been there might be able to share
some information.
I'm starting to compile a list of the hardware I need to order (filler cap, tubes,
valves, etc.),
and thought somebody might already have done that...
Anybody willing to share it? It would save me some time and avoid potentially costly
mistakes.
Thanks in advance
Carlos
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| Subject: | Fuel sender for header tank |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page <webmaster@upac.ca>
Does anyone have any recommendations regarding a fuel gauge/sender for
the 16gal header tank in my 601HD?
I'd like to use such a setup instead of the fuel line level in the
instrument panel.
Thanks
Trev
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Vapour lock is only an issue when the common hydraulic botch of using
just a engine driven pump or an electric pump with the inlet above the
level of the fuel or other restriction. Restriction in this case would
be a long length of hose of too small diameter, a filter, valves fitting
etc.
If you are using wing tanks only (on a 601...High wing 701's are not AS
critical) I recommend putting a pump right at the outlet of each tank
and use a 3/8ths rubber hose between the tank and inlet.
I use 1/4 aluminium line everywhere else and simple brass hardware store
water pipe fittings. I use a dab of loctite to glue the compression caps
on...Works great, will not corrode...Has not in 5 years.
Bet an engineer who works occasionally desighning fluid pumping systems
I am real passionate about fuel system design. using pumps to suck
uphill is asking for and engine out and the return that Rotax recommend
is attempting to treat a symptom, not avoid the disease in the first
place.
Frank
601 subaru 325 hours
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Sa
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel system
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Let me try this again. I'll be more specific:
What internal diameter fuel lines are recommended? I understand larger
is better to minimize vapor lock, and I see no drawback. Is aluminium or
plastic the preferred material? What kind of fuel valves? Price range is
quite wide (US$22 to US$265 - and more) Gascolators? Again, from US$53
to US$236... The only flange I see in the AS&S catalog (2001/2002, page
157) is intended for welding. Looks like drilling and rivetting it
should pose no problem. Suggestions? Alternatives?
Thanks for any input
Carlos
---------------------------------
Hello, all
I'm about ready to start building the wing (lead edge) tanks (601-HD).
I'll be putting it together the RV way, i.e., with rivets (cherry
rivets, probably). I thought some of you folks that have already been
there might be able to share some information.
I'm starting to compile a list of the hardware I need to order (filler
cap, tubes, valves, etc.), and thought somebody might already have done
that...
Anybody willing to share it? It would save me some time and avoid
potentially costly mistakes.
Thanks in advance
Carlos
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| Subject: | Re: A bit more on heavy left wing problem |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "John M. Goodings" <goodings@yorku.ca>
There are a couple more things I should have mentioned in my message 12 of
yesterday re the heavy left wing problem of our CH601HD with R912S. In
reply to Rick Pitcher's query, when flown with hands off as the aircraft
was tending to roll to the left (this is a gentle roll, not an extreme
one), the ball on the turn-and-bank seemed to stay in the middle; we do
not have aileron trim, however. Phil Raker and Joe Motis raise the notion
of the empty right seat, as suggested/endorsed by Chris Heintz. It makes
sense. However, all our early flying when the roll to the left first
became evident was done with both seats occupied (my son Peter and
myself). To our surprise, the flight characteristics with just the left
seat occupied were remarkably similar; the roll to the left was still
present, but did not seem to be any worse. The pilot's (or the
co-pilot's) C of G is pretty close to the centre line, giving a small
moment of inertia. Thus, I think the cause is different. Perhaps the
offset of the fin/rudder is not sufficient to compensate fully for the
propeller torque, particularly with the R912S engine of 100 HP; we have a
68-inch GSC prop. Has anyone ever detected a tendency for his aircraft to
roll to the RIGHT? I have never heard of one.
John and Peter Goodings, C-FGPJ, CH601HD with R912S, Toronto/Waterloo.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo J. Corbalis" <leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net>
This return line idea has to provide pressure to the carbs for proper
operation. This means restricting the flow in the return line. You may not
get full power in a climb or during takeoff as you empty the carb bowl.
Leo corbalis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Therrien" <mtherr@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel system
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
>
> Yes. makes instal more flexible.
>
> Also, some explained me that by recirculating fuel,
> you clear possible air in line, keep pumps cool,
> regulate pressure better....
>
> I'm no expert... so I leave the floor for discussions
> on that.
>
> Michel
>
> --- Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa
> > <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Hi, Michel
> >
> > Return line as in fuel injected engines?
> >
> > Carlos
> > do not archive
> >
>
> =====
> ----------------------------
> Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ
>
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| Subject: | Re: 701s at Arlington? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Dabusmith@aol.com
That's great. Did you guys get your cowling yet? Is it one of those new ones
from Skyshop?
I would like to copy it if there is time. I did my 200 hr check yesterday.
All is well. My friend Cliff and I flew it over 5 1/2 hours on Tuesday! We had
a ball.
Dave
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Yes...It works really well if its not there too...:)
But of course I understand all that warranty stuff but the basic issue
is it's a poor fuel system design. If the system is desgined correctly
in the first place the return is not necessary.
Of course if you also don't want the header tank...(I used to wake up in
a cold sweat before I took the strategic decision to get rid of the
header tank and go with wing tanks only).. Where to you route this
return line...i.e to which tank and how do you balance where your fuel
is?
IF it were me I would design the fuel system correctly, junk the return
and go with wing tank only....
Wait a minute...Thats what I actually did do 'cos there is no dastardly
engine pump in the Subaru.
Sadly my next project will be fuel injected and that Has to have a
return...this is quite a headache to do right.
Frank
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Leo J.
Corbalis
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel system
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo J. Corbalis"
--> <leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net>
This return line idea has to provide pressure to the carbs for proper
operation. This means restricting the flow in the return line. You may
not get full power in a climb or during takeoff as you empty the carb
bowl.
Leo corbalis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Therrien" <mtherr@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel system
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
>
> Yes. makes instal more flexible.
>
> Also, some explained me that by recirculating fuel,
> you clear possible air in line, keep pumps cool,
> regulate pressure better....
>
> I'm no expert... so I leave the floor for discussions
> on that.
>
> Michel
>
> --- Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa
> > <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Hi, Michel
> >
> > Return line as in fuel injected engines?
> >
> > Carlos
> > do not archive
> >
>
> =====
> ----------------------------
> Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Graham Kirby" <gkirby@yahoo.com>
Carlos,
I used the weldable flanges for the outlet and drain on my riveted tanks.
All you have to do is cut off the lip to make the flange flat and rivetable.
The flange wasn't very wide so I also had to grind away the nose of my
riveter to get the clearance I needed. I could have avoided this by riveting
from the inside of the tank but it would have looked ugly.
While talking about flanges: For my tanks vent connection I use an AN807
because it has a much bigger flange than the other AN bulkhead fittings I
have seen.
I saw Franks note about using standard household brass fittings. If you
decide to use aluminum lines just be aware that you need a 37 degree pipe
flare with AN fittings but the rest of the world uses 45 degrees.
Graham Kirby,
601HD
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Let me try this again. I'll be more specific:
What internal diameter fuel lines are recommended? I understand larger is
better to minimize vapor lock, and I see no drawback. Is aluminium or
plastic the preferred material? What kind of fuel valves? Price range is
quite wide (US$22 to US$265 - and more) Gascolators? Again, from US$53 to
US$236... The only flange I see in the AS&S catalog (2001/2002, page 157) is
intended for welding. Looks like drilling and rivetting it should pose no
problem. Suggestions? Alternatives?
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel sender for header tank |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
Trevor,
The standard side mounted float-type Mitchell Fuel Sender works just fine
in my 601HDS. Pictures at www.macsmachine.com See header page on menu.
Larry
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> Does anyone have any recommendations regarding a fuel gauge/sender for
> the 16gal header tank in my 601HD?
>
> I'd like to use such a setup instead of the fuel line level in the
> instrument panel.
>
> Thanks
>
> Trev
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Andrew SanClemente <duck@townisp.com>
If you do a search in the archives for "Fuel System" you will find
just about everything you could ever imagine discussed. Well worth
the time to find the answers you are searching for. Just about all
the different options with pros and cons are in there.
Good luck
-Andy
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| Subject: | Inboard and Outboard Pickups |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Andrew SanClemente <duck@townisp.com>
On the HDS wing, whats the best way to install the inboard and
outboard pickup (6v8-4 / 6v8-5) at the gap of the nose skins between
the inboard and outboard wings?
Since the HDS wing angles away, these two parts don't meet flat but
on an angle. I tried bending but it doesn't really want to bend
nicely due to the parts already having a curve to them.
All help/suggestions appreciated,
Thanks
- Andy SanClemente
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Correct...I decided to use standard compression fittings...I.e no flare.
Frank
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Graham
Kirby
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Fuel system
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Graham Kirby" <gkirby@yahoo.com>
Carlos,
I used the weldable flanges for the outlet and drain on my riveted
tanks. All you have to do is cut off the lip to make the flange flat and
rivetable. The flange wasn't very wide so I also had to grind away the
nose of my riveter to get the clearance I needed. I could have avoided
this by riveting from the inside of the tank but it would have looked
ugly.
While talking about flanges: For my tanks vent connection I use an AN807
because it has a much bigger flange than the other AN bulkhead fittings
I have seen.
I saw Franks note about using standard household brass fittings. If you
decide to use aluminum lines just be aware that you need a 37 degree
pipe flare with AN fittings but the rest of the world uses 45 degrees.
Graham Kirby,
601HD
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Let me try this again. I'll be more specific:
What internal diameter fuel lines are recommended? I understand larger
is better to minimize vapor lock, and I see no drawback. Is aluminium or
plastic the preferred material? What kind of fuel valves? Price range is
quite wide (US$22 to US$265 - and more) Gascolators? Again, from US$53
to US$236... The only flange I see in the AS&S catalog (2001/2002, page
157) is intended for welding. Looks like drilling and rivetting it
should pose no problem. Suggestions? Alternatives?
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| Subject: | Re: Stratus Oil Filter |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
Hello to all. I have been monitoring the list for about a week since
ordering an XL kit and thought I could contribute to a couple of
discussions.
Larry, I am not familiar with the Stratus oil filter setup but am running a
Subaru EA-71 on a 7/8 Tiger Moth replica, so if they use the standard Sub
setup, this should apply. Look closely at the large supply of oil filters
at the parts store and you will notice there are only two basic types when
referring to the 'mounting' hole and gasket - a larger threaded hole with a
larger diameter gasket surface, and a smaller threaded hole with a smaller
diameter gasket surface. There are a couple of special variations, but
generally, they are one of those two types. Various engines that have
different oil volumes, operating temperatures, or usage require larger or
smaller filter elements to guarantee that the average Joe who changes oil in
his dump truck every 15,000 miles won't destroy his engine. As long as you
match up the hole size and gasket surface to your filter adapter and pay
attention to a regular maintenance schedule, you can use any of the filters
off the shelf without problems.
Also, I own and have used the Lowe's version of the swaging tool ($28, I
believe) on aircraft control cables and they work great. As long as the
size of your cable and fittings match the tool (and I can't remember off
hand what the standard 3 are that are drilled into the tool) they work just
like the high priced brands.
Looking forward to participating further.......
Paul
601 XL New Mexico
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| Subject: | Re: Inboard and Outboard Pickups |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Inboard and Outboard Pickups
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Andrew SanClemente <duck@townisp.com>
>
> On the HDS wing, whats the best way to install the inboard and
> outboard pickup (6v8-4 / 6v8-5) at the gap of the nose skins between
> the inboard and outboard wings?
> Since the HDS wing angles away, these two parts don't meet flat but
> on an angle. I tried bending but it doesn't really want to bend
> nicely due to the parts already having a curve to them.
>
> All help/suggestions appreciated,
> Thanks
> - Andy SanClemente
Andy,
I located and riveted the inboard plates to the center section first, before
drilling the hole
pattern on the outer nose skin. Then aligning the main screw hole permits
you to
match-drill the pattern to the outside plate before slipping it inside for
clecoing, etc.
The HDS is a little difficult there, but with the splice plates and wings in
place, the rest
of the options are few. Pictures are seen on this at my website on large
assembly, wing to
center secton and the completion page at www.macsmachine.com
Good luck
Larry
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| Subject: | Do I still need my workbench? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox-internet.com>
I'm at 6-B-11 of the construction manual. It says to "lower the fuselage off
the bench... " I don't have room to have both the bench and the fuselage on
the lower saw horses and it will not be convenant to move it out and back
more than once.
Tail's done, Wings Done.
So my question is "Am I done with the bench?"
GigG
www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List:Wing skins |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com
Greetings listers
My replacement wing skins came today. The bottom ones, not the top ones that
ZAC mistakenly sent last time. So after a month off from building, I shall
be returning to the shop for more airplane building. Thanks for all the
responses to my myriad of posts and the great suggestions and feedback. Now, lets
go crank up the air compressor.
Joe Motis
601XL
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| Subject: | 601 flight instruction |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" <drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
Many thanks to all of you who responded to my query about flight instruction.
Several of you recommended the Grumman Yankee, and I'm still looking for a school
or instructor that has one available.
Ron DeWees recommended the Alarus CH2000 as having similar flight characteristics,
and a place in Georgia actually is giving instruction in one. That's real
close to me, so could work out well.
For anybody else interested, the link to the Georgia outfit is http://www.philsflying.com/contact.html
Bob
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Fosse" <jfosse1@shawneelink.net>
Thanks to all for the info provided on the hole finder.
Jim Fosse
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| Subject: | Thrust on engine |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brett " <brett@hog-air.com>
I just did some thrust testing on my XL with the 80hp and the 110 hp
Harley motor. I was happy with both motors and thought they did very
well. But I was wanting to know what some of you are getting on your
motors.
The 80hp. was 320 to 330 lbs of thrust.
The 110hp was 410 lbs at a climb setting on the prop. and 390 lbs on
the cruise setting.
We tested a KR2 with a 100hp Cont. and he was getting 290 lbs.
I would really like to know what the 912 has.
Thanks
Brett Ray
www.hog-air.com
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