---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 07/24/04: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:13 AM - Re: 801 tail kit (Rmtnview@aol.com) 2. 09:24 AM - Re: New Sport Pilot Limits and 601HDS (Tom Orsborn) 3. 09:33 AM - Re: Strobe power supply (Leo J. Corbalis) 4. 09:54 AM - Re: New Sport Pilot Limits and 601HDS (The Meiste's) 5. 10:33 AM - Re: Ammeter or voltmeter? (Trevor Page) 6. 02:05 PM - Re: New Sport Pilot Limits and 601HDS (Jeff Small) 7. 02:49 PM - Re: Ammeter or voltmeter? (Andrew SanClemente) 8. 02:51 PM - [ Gary Gower ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares) 9. 05:12 PM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 30 Msgs - 07/23/04 (Brett Hanley) 10. 06:47 PM - 801, new tail build (C95_OR) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:13:47 AM PST US From: Rmtnview@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 801 tail kit --> Zenith-List message posted by: Rmtnview@aol.com Ben, the tail kit was bought approximately 4 years ago. I'm not aware of a new design for the tail. I've been out of the "aircraft" loop for a while. Right after the kit was ordered, we bought property in the mountains of NC and I've been working on getting a road into the place and building a house ever since. We are just about finished with the house and about to get to the point we can get back to building an airplane. rog ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:24:58 AM PST US From: "Tom Orsborn" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: New Sport Pilot Limits and 601HDS --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tom Orsborn" I won't be able to make it to Oshkosh this year. It would be helpful if someone who is going could ask Chris if he would approve VGs as a method for meeting the new Sport Pilot stall limit with the 601HDS. Better yet, if he would design and test and sell a drawings/kit for that purpose to minimize issues with the inspector. ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Meiste's" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: New Sport Pilot Limits and 601HDS > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "The Meiste's" > > > How about more details? What did it do to the top speed? > > Thanks > > Ron DeWees > > Ron, > Before my plane stalled at 55 MPH on my ASI (2,000 RPM & loaded to approx > 1,000 lbs), and with the VG's installed I'm now down to 50 MPH in the same > configuration, so the VG's gave me an additional 5 MPH. I only flew for 1/2 > hour to test the stall so I'm not sure if it killed my cruise speed much or > not ( but I did notice 107 MPH on the GPS with a 7 MPH tail wind @ 4,000 > RPM). > > Kelly > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:33:08 AM PST US From: "Leo J. Corbalis" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Strobe power supply --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo J. Corbalis" Just to stick my oar in, I put the Aeroflash strobe pwr supplies on the skin in front of the spar. I ran the wires through a ferrite toroid to suppress noise. On one side I had some tension in the wires and eventually it unplugged. I just drilled off the plastic wing tip and put a tiewrap around the plug and reriveted. They have been strobing for 7 years now. Leo Corbalis do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:54:55 AM PST US From: "The Meiste's" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: New Sport Pilot Limits and 601HDS --> Zenith-List message posted by: "The Meiste's" > I won't be able to make it to Oshkosh this year. It would be helpful if > someone who is going could ask Chris if he would approve VGs as a method for > meeting the new Sport Pilot stall limit with the 601HDS. Better yet, if he > would design and test and sell a drawings/kit for that purpose to minimize > issues with the inspector. I already have ..... but no reply from ZAC yet. Kelly ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:33:10 AM PST US From: Trevor Page Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Ammeter or voltmeter? --> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page Thanks for all the replies and good advise. Voltmeter it is then. Trevor Page ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:05:36 PM PST US From: "Jeff Small" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: New Sport Pilot Limits and 601HDS Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:05:44 -0400 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff Small" Guys, it ain't gonna happen. Forget about adding thingies to the HDS and legally flying it as LSA. How are you going to run a testing program to present evidence? How are you going to have your testing procedures evaluated for providing proof of the necessary and correct empirical data? Same thing with saying it stalls below 45kt at a reduced gross. If the chance to exceed that gross exists, then someone will exceed it. The FAA went through this before with Part 103, the 254 pounds, the five gallons, etc. They are not going to open that same can of worms with LSA. SP/LSA was designed to avoid the problems, not make more. Bet on it. Nothing in the 452 pages talks about builder modifications. tailwinds jeff >someone who is going could ask Chris if he would approve VGs as a method for meeting the new Sport Pilot stall limit with the 601HDS. Better yet, if he would design and test and sell a drawings/kit for that purpose to minimize issues with the inspector. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:49:42 PM PST US From: Andrew SanClemente Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Ammeter or voltmeter? --> Zenith-List message posted by: Andrew SanClemente >From a pure ease of installation, the voltmeter is the way to go. I initially had both but the additional complexity of the Ammeter wiring in my opinion made it not worth it. I have an idiot light off the Alternator so I should know immediately if the Alternator fails. Just my two cents, -Andy From a pure ease of installation, the voltmeter is the way to go. I initially had both but the additional complexity of the Ammeter wiring in my opinion made it not worth it. I have an idiot light off the Alternator so I should know immediately if the Alternator fails. Just my two cents, -Andy ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:51:36 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: [ Gary Gower ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! From: Email List Photo Shares --> Zenith-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Gary Gower Subject: High Pressure struts installed in 701 doors http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/ggower_99@yahoo.com.07.24.2004/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:12:30 PM PST US From: Brett Hanley Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 30 Msgs - 07/23/04 --> Zenith-List message posted by: Brett Hanley There is a great section in the Aero Electric connection on the subject. The author seems to think the volt meter is the best choice. Brett On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Trevor Page wrote: > I'd like some opinions on which gauge type (volt or amps) I should > install in my panel? I have space for either but not both. ...snip > Trevor Page > 601HD 6-3685 > _______________________________ Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:47:11 PM PST US From: "C95_OR" Subject: Zenith-List: 801, new tail build --> Zenith-List message posted by: "C95_OR" Hello builders, I am building a 801 that will have a (Eggenfellner) 3 liter, H-6 Subaru for power, ground adj prop for now. I was wondering if anyone has installed the larger 801 tail Kit, recently released by Zenith. Was wondering if anybody has any experience with the larger tail? It will give greater control for low speed operation. Has anyone installed an AOA indicator yet? Will be getting my engine in August. Thanks for the info. Cedric Schieber Oregon