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1. 06:22 AM - hole cutting with a roto-zip (baileys)
2. 07:45 AM - Re: hole cutting with a roto-zip (Richard Wilbers)
3. 08:13 AM - Re: hole cutting with a roto-zip (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
4. 08:38 AM - Re: hole cutting with a roto-zip (baileys)
5. 09:57 AM - Brass fittings and valves on aluminum tubing... (Bima, Martin)
6. 10:24 AM - Re: Brass fittings and valves on aluminum tubing... (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
7. 01:13 PM - Re: Brass fittings and valves on aluminum tubing... ()
8. 02:04 PM - more almost free stuff (rbauer@intergate.com)
9. 02:19 PM - Any builders in Austin or D/FW Tx? (J Peters)
10. 02:50 PM - Re: Any builders in Austin or D/FW Tx? (Cdngoose)
11. 04:28 PM - Re: Any builders in Austin or D/FW Tx? (Randy Stout)
12. 05:44 PM - Re: Brass fittings and valves on aluminum tubing... (Brandon Tucker)
13. 05:52 PM - Re: hole cutting with a roto-zip (Brandon Tucker)
14. 09:03 PM - Re: Aileron Trim questions (Brandon Tucker)
15. 09:05 PM - Re: ZAC Dinner (Cdngoose)
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| Subject: | hole cutting with a roto-zip |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "baileys" <baileys@ktis.net>
Does anyone have any actual experience cutting circles in aluminum with a
rotozip? Does it mar the aluminum surface and can you get consisteant
results? Also do you use any type of lubricant on the blade? I would think
that since aluminum is kind of gummy to machine that it would weld itself to
the cutter if you used it dry.
I have one of the things and rarely use it. As an aside no matter what the
job is from welding a broken lawn mower bracket to cutting brush my wife
will laugh and say, "Good thing we have a rotozip." and I remind her that
she is the one that bought it after watching a commercial on TV. lol
Bob B. 701 #7 5552
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ronnie Wehba" <rwehba@cox.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: hole cutting
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ronnie Wehba" <rwehba@cox.net>
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> http://www.rotozip.com/rightaccessory.aspx
>
> look here hope it helps!
>
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| Subject: | Re: hole cutting with a roto-zip |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Richard Wilbers" <rwilbers@tampabay.rr.com>
I have made all the holes im my plane, particularly the instrument panel,
with metal cutting hole saws using a wood backing. They are perfectly round
and exactkly to size. I used the L.S. Starrett Co. hole saws and they are
great.
Regards....Dick Wilbers
----- Original Message -----
From: "baileys" <baileys@ktis.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: hole cutting with a roto-zip
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "baileys" <baileys@ktis.net>
>
> Does anyone have any actual experience cutting circles in aluminum with a
> rotozip? Does it mar the aluminum surface and can you get consisteant
> results? Also do you use any type of lubricant on the blade? I would
think
> that since aluminum is kind of gummy to machine that it would weld itself
to
> the cutter if you used it dry.
>
> I have one of the things and rarely use it. As an aside no matter what the
> job is from welding a broken lawn mower bracket to cutting brush my wife
> will laugh and say, "Good thing we have a rotozip." and I remind her that
> she is the one that bought it after watching a commercial on TV. lol
> Bob B. 701 #7 5552
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ronnie Wehba" <rwehba@cox.net>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Zenith-List: hole cutting
>
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ronnie Wehba" <rwehba@cox.net>
> >
> > http://www.rotozip.com/rightaccessory.aspx
> >
> > look here hope it helps!
> >
> >
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| Subject: | hole cutting with a roto-zip |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
OK now the other side of the equation...I Hate hole saws...I used one on
the panel and wish I hadn't...It drifted and vibrated. Maybe it was a
cheap one?
After that I used the fly cutter, even some after the fact guages I used
the flycutter in a battery drill and it gave me much better results.
Frank
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Wilbers
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: hole cutting with a roto-zip
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Richard Wilbers"
--> <rwilbers@tampabay.rr.com>
I have made all the holes im my plane, particularly the instrument
panel, with metal cutting hole saws using a wood backing. They are
perfectly round and exactkly to size. I used the L.S. Starrett Co. hole
saws and they are great. Regards....Dick Wilbers
----- Original Message -----
From: "baileys" <baileys@ktis.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: hole cutting with a roto-zip
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "baileys" <baileys@ktis.net>
>
> Does anyone have any actual experience cutting circles in aluminum
> with a rotozip? Does it mar the aluminum surface and can you get
> consisteant results? Also do you use any type of lubricant on the
> blade? I would
think
> that since aluminum is kind of gummy to machine that it would weld
> itself
to
> the cutter if you used it dry.
>
> I have one of the things and rarely use it. As an aside no matter what
> the job is from welding a broken lawn mower bracket to cutting brush
> my wife will laugh and say, "Good thing we have a rotozip." and I
> remind her that she is the one that bought it after watching a
> commercial on TV. lol Bob B. 701 #7 5552
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ronnie Wehba" <rwehba@cox.net>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Zenith-List: hole cutting
>
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ronnie Wehba" <rwehba@cox.net>
> >
> > http://www.rotozip.com/rightaccessory.aspx
> >
> > look here hope it helps!
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: hole cutting with a roto-zip |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "baileys" <baileys@ktis.net>
Yes, but can you weld a lawn mower bracket with it? LOL
Anyway thanks the Starrett holes saws are great.
IMHO the rotozip is vastly overrated by the manufacturer at least it was
before Bosch bought the company. I haven't seen the kind of claims they
were making lately.
Bob B.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Wilbers" <rwilbers@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: hole cutting with a roto-zip
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Richard Wilbers"
<rwilbers@tampabay.rr.com>
>
> I have made all the holes im my plane, particularly the instrument panel,
> with metal cutting hole saws using a wood backing. They are perfectly
round
> and exactkly to size. I used the L.S. Starrett Co. hole saws and they are
> great.
> Regards....Dick Wilbers
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "baileys" <baileys@ktis.net>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Zenith-List: hole cutting with a roto-zip
>
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "baileys" <baileys@ktis.net>
> >
> > Does anyone have any actual experience cutting circles in aluminum with
a
> > rotozip? Does it mar the aluminum surface and can you get consisteant
> > results? Also do you use any type of lubricant on the blade? I would
> think
> > that since aluminum is kind of gummy to machine that it would weld
itself
> to
> > the cutter if you used it dry.
> >
> > I have one of the things and rarely use it. As an aside no matter what
the
> > job is from welding a broken lawn mower bracket to cutting brush my wife
> > will laugh and say, "Good thing we have a rotozip." and I remind her
that
> > she is the one that bought it after watching a commercial on TV. lol
> > Bob B. 701 #7 5552
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ronnie Wehba" <rwehba@cox.net>
> > To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Zenith-List: hole cutting
> >
> >
> > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ronnie Wehba" <rwehba@cox.net>
> > >
> > > http://www.rotozip.com/rightaccessory.aspx
> > >
> > > look here hope it helps!
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Brass fittings and valves on aluminum tubing... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bima, Martin" <mbima@hydro.mb.ca>
Is it common or not to use brass/bronze fittings and valves with
aluminum tube and tanks?
Working on fuel system in the wings now.
Martin Bima
STOL-Vair
www.autobahn.mb.ca/~bima
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| Subject: | Brass fittings and valves on aluminum tubing... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Ha, you do like to open a can of worms don't you...:)
Well I have used brass fittings and 3033 alu tube everywhere (in fact I
used 1/4" brass compression fittings from the hardware store with a dab
of loctite on the cap) and have not seen any corrosion in the last five
years.
Conventional wisdom would say this is a bad idea...If you were pumping
water I would agree, but with oily fuel it seems to be no problem at
all.
Frank
601 HDS 337 hours
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bima,
Martin
Subject: Zenith-List: Brass fittings and valves on aluminum tubing...
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bima, Martin" <mbima@hydro.mb.ca>
Is it common or not to use brass/bronze fittings and valves with
aluminum tube and tanks?
Working on fuel system in the wings now.
Martin Bima
STOL-Vair
www.autobahn.mb.ca/~bima
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| Subject: | Brass fittings and valves on aluminum tubing... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <george.pinneo@ngc.com>
I didn't; I used aluminum compression fittings, Swagelok. I made my own finger
strainers of aluminum Swagelok fittings. Long-term, brass or copper in contact
w/ aluminum will corrode. The Teflon tape or paste seal on tapered pipe fittings
gives you some corrosion protection, but single metal systems corrode less.
GGP
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| Subject: | more almost free stuff |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: rbauer@intergate.com
Ok list. Is there any use for Fiberfrax, 1/32 thk in 2.8" diameter discs?
They're punching some now & I may be able to get some if there is some overrun.
Rich
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| Subject: | Any builders in Austin or D/FW Tx? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: J Peters <jeffrey421@yahoo.com>
Hello all.
I am considering the purchase of a 601xl kit from
Zenith and have been monitoring the Matronics Zenith
list for a few weeks. I am very pleased to see how,
while not perfect, everyone seems to be very happy
with their kits.
No one in my local EAA chapter has or is building a
Zenith product (they all seem to be building RVs), but
I sure would like to visit with a builder and see
their project first hand. I'd even volunteer a day's
labor to "help" as long as they wouldn't charge me too
much for "helping". LOL.
I live in Austin, TX and travel to D/FW regularly. I
also get up to Little Rock, AR every once in a while.
Any builders in Central Texas that could stand a
visitor?
Thanks and take care.
Jeff Peters
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| Subject: | Any builders in Austin or D/FW Tx? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
Hi Jeff
You probably picked a very wrong time for your post as alot of builders
are heading to Oshkosh for tonight's Zenith Builders dinner. You will
have better luck in re-posting next week.
For now you could browse www.ch601.org for information. Also don't
forget to look at the links page and visit with other builders
Mark Townsend
601XL EJ 2.2L
Alma, Ontario
www.ch601.org
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of J Peters
Subject: Zenith-List: Any builders in Austin or D/FW Tx?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: J Peters <jeffrey421@yahoo.com>
Hello all.
I am considering the purchase of a 601xl kit from
Zenith and have been monitoring the Matronics Zenith
list for a few weeks. I am very pleased to see how,
while not perfect, everyone seems to be very happy
with their kits.
No one in my local EAA chapter has or is building a
Zenith product (they all seem to be building RVs), but
I sure would like to visit with a builder and see
their project first hand. I'd even volunteer a day's
labor to "help" as long as they wouldn't charge me too
much for "helping". LOL.
I live in Austin, TX and travel to D/FW regularly. I
also get up to Little Rock, AR every once in a while.
Any builders in Central Texas that could stand a
visitor?
Thanks and take care.
Jeff Peters
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| Subject: | Any builders in Austin or D/FW Tx? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Randy Stout" <n282rs@earthlink.net>
Jeff
If you care to come a little further south (San Antonio), there are at
least 4 of us with Zodiacs in various stages.
Randy Stout
n282rs"at"earthlink.net
www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21
> Hello all.
>
> I am considering the purchase of a 601xl kit from
> Zenith and have been monitoring the Matronics Zenith
> list for a few weeks. I am very pleased to see how,
> while not perfect, everyone seems to be very happy
> with their kits.
>
> No one in my local EAA chapter has or is building a
> Zenith product (they all seem to be building RVs), but
> I sure would like to visit with a builder and see
> their project first hand. I'd even volunteer a day's
> labor to "help" as long as they wouldn't charge me too
> much for "helping". LOL.
>
> I live in Austin, TX and travel to D/FW regularly. I
> also get up to Little Rock, AR every once in a while.
>
> Any builders in Central Texas that could stand a
> visitor?
>
> Thanks and take care.
>
> Jeff Peters
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| Subject: | RE: Brass fittings and valves on aluminum tubing... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
Great question... I wanted to ask the same last
night, but didn't want to open said "can of worms."
The only finger strainer and drain valves that I could
find were brass, so I figured it is considered o.k.
After purchasing the fittings from the local NAPA, I
decided that I should go with AN fittings and ordered
them online from ACS late last night. Then this
morning it dawned on me that my automotive flaring
tool is not 37 deg. I sure as heck don't want to pay
$$$ for an aviation flaring tool. So what is one to
do??
Also, NAPA doesn't carry aluminum fuel line at all.
Is there a national auto chain that carries fuel line?
I plan to use 3/8 OD. Is this what everyone is
using?
R/
Brandon
HDS port wing almost complete
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| Subject: | RE: hole cutting with a roto-zip |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
I used my roto-zip to cut the baggage compartment hole
in the top wing skin and broke the blade after about
12". Went to the nibbler after that and was happy
with the results. I think for small holes it might
work, but I cut way too long & developed too much
heat. I have a really cheapo fly cutter from Harbor
Freight that works like a charm. I get to cut the
holes for the taxi lights in .040 tonight. Great
fun!!!
R/
Brandon Tucker
HDS port wing almost complete
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| Subject: | RE: Aileron Trim questions |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
-Just when I said that a flush aileron trim tab wasn't
possible on an HDS, I found this:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/jlivsey/aileron1.html
I humbly eat my words!
R/
Brandon Tucker
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
SO who on this list will be the first one in front of a computer to tell
all us non Oshkosh participants, how the Zenith Builders dinner went??
Mark Townsend
601XL EJ 2.2L
Alma, Ontario
www.ch601.org
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