Zenith-List Digest Archive

Sun 08/01/04


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:24 AM - Re: Re: Aileron Trim (Andrew SanClemente)
     2. 08:03 AM - electronic AOA Engine downthrust (roy vickski)
     3. 08:10 AM - AN fittings (Bob Gibfried)
     4. 09:38 AM - Picture (Cdngoose)
     5. 09:40 AM - Re: electronic AOA Engine downthrust (Cdngoose)
     6. 06:29 PM - Re: Brass fittings and valves on aluminum tubing... (Bryan Martin)
     7. 06:45 PM - Re: Re: Brass fittings and valves on aluminum  (Bryan Martin)
     8. 07:02 PM - Re: Re: Brass fittings and valves on aluminum tubing... (Thomas F Marson)
     9. 07:29 PM - Re: AN fittings (Larry Martin)
    10. 07:53 PM - Re: Re: Brass fittings and valves on aluminum  (Bryan Martin)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:24:54 AM PST US
    From: Andrew SanClemente <ansancle@townisp.com>
    Subject: Re: RE: Aileron Trim
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Andrew SanClemente <ansancle@townisp.com> Thanks to all for the aileron info, greatly appreciated, -Andy DO NOT ARCHIVE Thanks to all for the aileron info, greatly appreciated, -Andy DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 08:03:59 AM PST US
    From: roy vickski <rvickski@yahoo.com>
    Subject: electronic AOA Engine downthrust
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: roy vickski <rvickski@yahoo.com> Greetings All I was looking thru my digikey catalog and found in section N a couple of pages worth of solid state differential pressure sensors. SenSym ICT offers a handbook, Digikey pn 287-1001-nd for 5$. This book may be helpful to the experimenter wishing to develop his own aoa circuitry. Myself, I will stay with the minihelic gauge and tubing. Roy 701, covair, plans building PS Spoke with Nick at OSH about engine downthrust(not spelled out or mentioned on the plan) and what he told me was that the wing has 3 degrees positive incidence if mounted as designed so the engine cl should be level with the fuse horizontal reference line. This makes good sense, I will proceed with confidence __________________________________ http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail


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    Time: 08:10:05 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Gibfried" <rfg842@cox.net>
    Subject: AN fittings
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Gibfried" <rfg842@cox.net> One of the best sources for AN fittings, stainless braided gas lines, alum tubing, etc, etc is Summit Racing Equipment. Phone is 1-800-230-3030, web is www.SummitRacing.com. Free catalog, a great reference for the library and fittings are usually much cheaper than any aircraft supply house. Check out their neat gauges too, both electrical and mechanical. Bob, Wichita


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    Time: 09:38:34 AM PST US
    From: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
    Subject: Picture
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca> Does anyone have a picture Of Chris Heintz standing beside or sitting in a Zodiac 601 any model? You think I would be able to find one on the ZAC site, but it seems to elude me. Mark Townsend 601XL EJ 2.2L Alma, Ontario www.ch601.org


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    Time: 09:40:39 AM PST US
    From: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
    Subject: electronic AOA Engine downthrust
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca> Roy THANK-YOU I have been looking for that in order to make LED readout for the AOA on www.ch601.org site. Mark Townsend 601XL EJ 2.2L Alma, Ontario www.ch601.org --> Zenith-List message posted by: roy vickski <rvickski@yahoo.com> Greetings All I was looking thru my digikey catalog and found in section N a couple of pages worth of solid state differential pressure sensors. SenSym ICT offers a handbook, Digikey pn 287-1001-nd for 5$. This book may be helpful to the experimenter wishing to develop his own aoa circuitry. Myself, I will stay with the minihelic gauge and tubing. Roy 701, covair, plans building


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    Time: 06:29:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brass fittings and valves on aluminum tubing...
    From: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net> on 7/31/04 7:10 PM, Thomas F Marson at tmarson@pressenter.com wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thomas F Marson" <tmarson@pressenter.com> > > Look in the Wicks catalog at the descriptions of 3003 al and 5052al. 5052 > appears to be the better one for fuel and hydraulic lines. tom Marson > 3/8" 3003 tubing has a working pressure of just over 500 psi, most fuel systems operate at 15 psi or less. 5052 has a higher working pressure but is also less flexible and harder to work with. 3003 will work fine for fuel systems but 5052 may be required for hydraulic systems. ACS sells 5052 tubing in 6 or 12 foot lengths and sells 3003 in 1 foot diameter coils. Not only is 3003 easier and cheaper to ship, it costs about a fifth as much as 5052. -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru. Construction complete. Getting the paperwork in order. do not archive.


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    Time: 06:45:50 PM PST US
    tubing...
    Subject: Re: RE: Brass fittings and valves on aluminum
    tubing...
    From: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net> on 7/31/04 6:18 PM, Thomas F Marson at tmarson@pressenter.com wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thomas F Marson" <tmarson@pressenter.com> > > Your fuel line should be real soft alumimum in the 5000 series. Go ahead > and buy the tool and do the job right. It is only your life your betting on > it. tom > > 5052 aluminum isn't very soft and this is the only tubing I've seen in the 5000 series. 3003-0 is very soft, has a working pressure more than high enough for fuel systems and is readily available. 5005 has properties similar to 3003 and is stronger but nobody seems to make tubing out of it. -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru. Construction complete. Getting the paperwork in order. do not archive.


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    Time: 07:02:17 PM PST US
    From: "Thomas F Marson" <tmarson@pressenter.com>
    Subject: Re: RE: Brass fittings and valves on aluminum
    tubing... --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thomas F Marson" <tmarson@pressenter.com> Sure they are making tubing out of it look at the listings in the Wicks catalog. It is the preferred tubing for fuel and hydraulic lines according to their listing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Martin" <bryanmmartin@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: RE: Brass fittings and valves on aluminum tubing... > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net> > > on 7/31/04 6:18 PM, Thomas F Marson at tmarson@pressenter.com wrote: > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thomas F Marson" <tmarson@pressenter.com> > > > > Your fuel line should be real soft alumimum in the 5000 series. Go ahead > > and buy the tool and do the job right. It is only your life your betting on > > it. tom > > > > > 5052 aluminum isn't very soft and this is the only tubing I've seen in the > 5000 series. 3003-0 is very soft, has a working pressure more than high > enough for fuel systems and is readily available. 5005 has properties > similar to 3003 and is stronger but nobody seems to make tubing out of it. > > > -- > Bryan Martin > N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru. > Construction complete. > Getting the paperwork in order. > do not archive. > >


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    Time: 07:29:43 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Martin" <earthloc@att.net>
    Subject: Re: AN fittings
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <earthloc@att.net> Correct me if I am wrong, but automotive fittings are different than aircraft fittings. I believe one is 37 degrees and the other is 45 or so, I can't remember exactly. If you go all the way with one or the other, then your fine, but can't mix the two. But your are right about Summit Racing, I've bought all my digital gauges, mufflers, etc there and the price is generally the lowest. They are fast and give you no hassle about returning stuff. Larry N1345L ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Gibfried To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 10:09 AM Subject: Zenith-List: AN fittings --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Gibfried" <rfg842@cox.net> One of the best sources for AN fittings, stainless braided gas lines, alum tubing, etc, etc is Summit Racing Equipment. Phone is 1-800-230-3030, web is www.SummitRacing.com. Free catalog, a great reference for the library and fittings are usually much cheaper than any aircraft supply house. Check out their neat gauges too, both electrical and mechanical. Bob, Wichita --- Version: 6.0.729 / Virus Database: 484 - Release Date: 7/27/2004


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    Time: 07:53:34 PM PST US
    tubing...
    Subject: Re: RE: Brass fittings and valves on aluminum
    tubing...
    From: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net> on 8/1/04 10:01 PM, Thomas F Marson at tmarson@pressenter.com wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thomas F Marson" <tmarson@pressenter.com> > > Sure they are making tubing out of it look at the listings in the Wicks > catalog. It is the preferred tubing for fuel and hydraulic lines according > to their listing. I don't have their catalog but the Wicks website doesn't list anything made out of 5005 alloy. 5052 is probably a good choice for fuel line but it costs more than 2 1/2 times as much as 3003. I don't have any experience with 5052 tubing but the 3003-0 was very easy to work with. In an earlier post I said it cost 5 times as much, I read the wrong line on the chart. -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru. Construction complete. Getting the paperwork in order. do not archive.




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