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1. 05:20 AM - Re: Thinning Cortec 373 (caspainhower@aep.com)
2. 08:07 AM - Re: Electrical Questions (Lance Gingell)
3. 01:30 PM - Alcohol Thinning of Cortec VpCI-373 (Robert Eli)
4. 03:05 PM - Re: Alcohol Thinning of Cortec VpCI-373 ()
5. 07:10 PM - Re: Electrical Questions (Bryan Martin)
6. 08:20 PM - I'm addicted (Robert Dziewiontkoski)
7. 08:33 PM - Re: I'm addicted (VideoFlyer@aol.com)
8. 11:38 PM - VOR/Glideslope antenna location (Peter Mather)
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| Subject: | Thinning Cortec 373 |
|July 24, 2002) at 08/15/2004 08:19:29 AM
--> Zenith-List message posted by: caspainhower@aep.com
>The spec sheet says to thin with water. My only
>guess is that maybe the water source is a factor. Unless one uses
distilled
>water, it may be that minerals dissolved in tap water have caused problems
>in some reported cases.
I was using tap water as well and didn't like the results. Distilled water
may work better, but I thinned with denatured alcohol the last time and it
worked great. As cheap as the alcohol is I plan to use it from here out,
since the manufacturer has blessed it off. I use foam brushes and a 4 inch
roller on the flat sheet metal surfaces and it really rolls out nice now.
I am applying the primer to all interior surfaces, not just the mating
surfaces.
Craig S.
N601XS, lyc 0-235, wings & tail complete, still working on fusilage.
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical Questions |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lance Gingell" <lgingell@matrix-logic.com>
Ooo..that doesn't sound good!
did the inspector say if these need to be AN bolts?
Thank for the others input to this also.
-----Original Message-----
From: "Al Young"<armyret@one-eleven.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Electrical Questions
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Al Young" <armyret@one-eleven.net>
Lance- I would not rivet your connector. My inspector wiggled mine for
less than 10 seconds and had it loose. He suggested using a nut/bolt/lock
washer.(stainless).
Do Not Archive.
Al Young, 601XL
On the canopy.
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| Subject: | Alcohol Thinning of Cortec VpCI-373 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Eli" <robert.eli@adelphia.net>
I am forwarding the results of my thinned Cortec 373 application to the
stabilizer skeleton.
Bob Eli
CH701
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Eli [mailto:robert.eli@adelphia.net]
Subject: RE: Thanks for Cortec 373 post...
John, Jon, Robert, Max, and other folks out there:
I have been agonizing over the whole corrosion protection issue for some
time, and it actually brought my construction to a dead halt for over a
month (I was really quite stupid to let it effect me this much, but I tend
to get a bit "anal" sometimes). Today, I thinned my Cortec 373 with
denatured alcohol, and coated my stabilizer skeleton with a foam brush. It
worked very well. So well that I do not plan to even consider trying water.
The best thing about it was the very quick drying time (although I needed to
stir the thinned 373 frequently because it formed a skin in my paint cup, if
left unstirred for more than a few minutes). The only thing I may
experiment with is diluting the 100% alcohol with some distilled water,
since I think that the report from max.johansson about how well window
washer fluid works may be due to the fact that washer fluid is diluted (at
least I am relatively sure that it is diluted with some water). So, the
next time I coat some parts, I'll try a little dilution to see what happens.
The reason I think it will be good to experiment some more is that I want to
try using an HVLP spray outfit that I bought (in a moment of weakness) to
coat the larger skins (my bank account is now significantly weaker too!). I
am told that HVLP sprayers rapidly evaporate the solvent in paint due to
high air temperatures produced by the turbines. With regard to window washer
fluid, I am reluctant to use it since it may contain other additives, such
as detergents, to clean the auto windshields for which it is intended;
although I have no proof that there is any problem with it.
Bob Eli
CH701 - N701K
-----Original Message-----
From: John Flavin [mailto:jflavin@intrex.net]
Subject: Thanks for Cortec 373 post...
Bob:
Many thanks for inquiring about alcohol-thinning Cortec 373. Have been
doing this on my 701 project with very good results so far, but there was
always that element of doubt, until now...
Thanks again.
John
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| Subject: | Alcohol Thinning of Cortec VpCI-373 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <max.johansson@nokia.com>
Eli
The denaturated alcohol I am using is rather concentrated
because it is an anti-freeze additive and not the window
washing fluid itself, which might very well contain undesirable
chemicals. If the water content rises you will see (use
a magnifying lens) hundreds of small beads forming around
any surface irregularities like the scratch marks from
the abrasive pads used to clean the aluminium surface.
If in doubt do comparison tests test with some more pure
alcohol in order to check the suitability of your dilutant.
The good news is that you made Cortec sort of approve
the use of alcohol by the home builder. Their S25 dilutant
is rather expensive and only comes in barrels of 20 litres.
Thank you !
best regards
Max - 701 builder in Helsinki
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical Questions |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
on 8/15/04 11:05 AM, Lance Gingell at lgingell@matrix-logic.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lance Gingell" <lgingell@matrix-logic.com>
>
> Ooo..that doesn't sound good!
>
> did the inspector say if these need to be AN bolts?
>
> Thank for the others input to this also.
>
AN bolts are used for structural applications, they are not needed for non
structural applications. Electrical connections are non structural.
Stainless screws are best for this purpose if they are exposed to the
weather. When using stainless fasteners with aluminum you should use a zinc
washer or anti-sieze compound between the stainless and the aluminum.
Stainless and aluminum don't play well together.
If the connection is unlikely to be exposed to moisture and is made to
aluminum, you would be better off using zinc plated screws.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
Construction complete.
Getting the paperwork in order.
do not archive.
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Seal-Send-Time: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 22:17:02 -0500
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Dziewiontkoski" <bobdz@msn.com>
After 5 hours of fun, my rudder skeleton is drilled, clecoed, un-clecoed, deburred,
primed, clecoed and riveted.
This is too much fun!
Bob Dziewiontkoski
Zodiac XL
Rudder under construction
N624DZ reserved
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| Subject: | Re: I'm addicted |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: VideoFlyer@aol.com
Welcome to the club. It gets better!
Dave Harms
601 XL
Tail feathers done, wings almost completed.
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| Subject: | VOR/Glideslope antenna location |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Peter Mather" <peter@mather.com>
Where are you all putting the VOR/Glideslope antenna. Is it OK mounted on
the Rudder even though it moves. Which model of antenna have you used?
Many Thanks
Peter
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