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1. 07:03 AM - Zenith CH 601 XL For Sale (Skyshop Inc.)
2. 08:13 AM - Re: Hole in splice plate? (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
3. 08:14 AM - 601XL Main Gear Attachment 6-B-11-4 (Scott Laughlin)
4. 09:04 AM - Re: Wooohooo! (Robert Schoenberger)
5. 09:26 AM - Tailwheel Question ()
6. 09:33 AM - Re: Wooohooo! (Pilot)
7. 09:33 AM - Re: 601XL Main Gear Attachment 6-B-11-4 (Lance Gingell)
8. 09:48 AM - Re: 601XL Main Gear Attachment 6-B-11-4 (Scott Laughlin)
9. 09:57 AM - Re: Wooohooo! (Bruce Johnson)
10. 10:02 AM - 701 wing instalation (Ron Lee)
11. 11:20 AM - Re: 701 folding wing installation ()
12. 12:43 PM - Re: Wooohooo! (Gary Wolf)
13. 03:08 PM - Re: VOR/Glideslope antenna location (Bryan Martin)
14. 03:09 PM - Two are known, many are not (Cdngoose)
15. 03:26 PM - Re: Tailwheel Question (Mike Sinclair)
16. 03:45 PM - Re: 701 folding wing installation (Hal Rozema)
17. 04:06 PM - Trade or sale? 701 kit/plane (Eric Parlow)
18. 04:41 PM - Re: Trade or sale? 701 kit/plane (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
19. 05:08 PM - Builders Photo's (Cdngoose)
20. 07:53 PM - Re: Online machine shop (Bob Miller)
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| Subject: | Zenith CH 601 XL For Sale |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Skyshop Inc." <danny@skyshops.org>
To the gang:
I was surprised how fast Pat's 601XL 100% firewall aft kit was
purchased. I'm sure you all know that we can deliver these
professionally built quick-built kits (or ready-to-fly) to any of you
with delivery time of only two months or so right now. We also would
like to offer to buy back any kits (rudder kits or tail group kits) as
partial payment for our fastbuilts. And don't forget, this same program
is available for the CH701.
Danny
Skyshop Inc.
www.skyshops.
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| Subject: | Hole in splice plate? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Still trucking along then George?...:)
I don't know about the splice plate, It "should" be OK if one puts the
hole in the middle of the plate and deburs it thoroughly. He did approve
a hole in the spar to route the brake lines for me.
You should really check directly with ZAC though.
Incidently have you checked the hole edge distances on the
plates?...There were a bunch that had to be replaced with steel...You
could defintaly make a hole in them!...:)
Cheers
Frank
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George
Swinford
Subject: Zenith-List: Hole in splice plate?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "George Swinford"
--> <grs-pms@comcast.net>
Has Chris approved putting a hole in the center of the 601 wing splice
plates (6V4-7 and 6V4-8)? If so, what max diameter? I'd like to do so
for wire routing. Any help out there?
George
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| Subject: | 601XL Main Gear Attachment 6-B-11-4 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
Fellow 601XL Builders:
I need your help today. I plan to pick up some grade 8 bolts from Lowes this
afternoon to fabricate part 6-B-11-4 (The main gear attachments), but the
drawing and current update have me confused.
To save you the trouble of pulling out your drawings, see this link:
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/MainGearAttach.jpg
The updates of 4/04 on the Zenith website mention "Delete 1" of threads on
bolts..."
After doing the math and adding the thicknesses of the rubber gaskets, alum.
angle, 1/" nut, etc., it seems like 1" of threads below the bottom of the
fuselage will work. If you have this part installed or just in a place
where you can find it, can you tell me how far the bolts (and threads) hang
below the bottom of the fuselage? A close-up photo of the part with a ruler
would provide the best help.
Thanks in advance,
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Schoenberger" <hrs1@frontiernet.net>
FWIW . . . I've seen an ad by one of the big supply houses that they make
the Buttercup kit among other. The flight characteristics are impressive,
but I'm not sure it would meet sport pilot specs. Robert Schoenberger
701 - 40% do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Johnson" <bruce@satx.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Wooohooo!
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bruce Johnson" <bruce@satx.rr.com>
>
> Thanks Mark,
>
> Yes, I've sat in a Sonex, and yes it was a tight fit for myself (5'10" -
> 190) and my father (6'3" - 210), in fact it was quite tight, he would have
> to have his left arm up on the seat the whole time to make that work.
>
> I've sat in Leo Gates 601HDS, although it was by myself, and, it was
> definitely more comfortable. I just can't get over the speed difference
> though. The Sonex is very very fast for the money/size/engine vs the
REAL
> numbers that I've seen reported here for the Zodiac, which is why I've
very
> interested in WW's results. Of course, on a medium cross country, 25+mph
> faster in a less comfortable plane will probably actually take more rest
> breaks etc...
>
> The Buttercup is a Steve Whitman design (http://www.luceair.com/) a rag
and
> tube STOL with a 125mph cruise, 300ft TO distance and 200ft landing. It's
> very likely I would not go that way, as I believe there is only one flying
> now (other than the original which is in an EAA museum I believe) and
since
> I've not yet even started flight training, I probably should not be an
> "early adopter" for an experimental. I'd also have to learn to weld..
What
> attracts me to the idea of it though, is I would likely be able to base it
> out of a 1500ft grass strip at an ultralight airport (soon to be a "Sport
> Pilot center ?) which is less than 4 miles from my house, vs. an airpark
> about a 35min drive from my house (where Leo Gates lives). I would also
> like to be able to perhaps carry a more cargo like a mountain bike when
> flying solo.... Steve Whitman used the original Buttercup to carry parts
> around the country for his racing aircraft.
>
> So maybe that will be the 2nd one eh? ;-)
>
> Bruce - San Antonio
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-
> > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cdngoose
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 5:03 PM
> > To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Wooohooo!
> >
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
> >
> > Bruce, don't recognize the buttercup but have you ever spent 5 min
> > inside the cockpit of a Sonex? Then add a passenger! The Zodiac becomes
> > a very quick choice. As for style !!! Well it is a personal thing !!
> >
> > Mark Townsend
> > Alma, Ontario
> > Zodiac 601XL EJ 2.2L
> > Osprey 2 serial # 751
> > www.ch601.org
> > www.Osprey2.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce
> > Johnson
> > To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Wooohooo!
> >
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bruce Johnson" <bruce@satx.rr.com>
> >
> > Alright Randy!!
> >
> > I'm in San Antonio (well actually Schertz) as well. I can't wait to
> > hear
> > how the Corvair increases your performance over the VW..
> >
> > I've seen very little feedback from WW's installation. I assume he's
> > busy
> > filling orders and paying the bills, but I wonder if perhaps he's
> > tweaking
> > to get better numbers before publishing as it's been along time between
> > updates.
> >
> > In which airpark are you based??
> >
> > Bruce - (still deciding between a Sonex and Z - XL with some interest
> > in
> > the Buttercup - how's that for diverse)
> >
> >
>
> ---
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Tailwheel Question |
Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 18:34:20 -0500
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <PAULROD36@msn.com>
Now that I'm committed to a taildragger 601XL, I'm curious to know what others
are using---ACS shows two homebuilder special tailwheels, with 4" or 6" wheels.
Anybody got any experience with either size? I don't expect the weight differential
(2 pounds) to be significant, since the powerplant will be Corvair.
Paul Rodriguez
601XL, Corvair
Working on the fuselage
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Pilot" <dhugunin@comcast.net>
I think that it might actually qualify for Sport Pilot designation:
http://www.luceair.com/specs/info.htm
Engine Model O-200
Engine Horsepower 100
Propeller 66/55
Cruise Speed 125 mph
Top Speed 145 mph
Landing Speed 40 mph
Maximum Speed (Vne) 150 mph
Stall (clean) 51 mph
Rate of Climb 550 ft./min.
Gross Weight 1290 Pounds
Empty Weight 790 Pounds
Payload 500 Pounds
Wing Span 29'5"
Wing Area 132 sq.ft.
Aircraft Length 19' 6"
Fuselage Height - Cabin 44"
Fuel Capacity 20 Gallons
Seats 2 (side-by-side)
Cabin Width 40"
Takeoff Distance 300 feet
Landing Distance 200 feet
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Schoenberger" <hrs1@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wooohooo!
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Schoenberger"
<hrs1@frontiernet.net>
FWIW . . . I've seen an ad by one of the big supply houses that they make
the Buttercup kit among other. The flight characteristics are impressive,
but I'm not sure it would meet sport pilot specs. Robert Schoenberger
701 - 40% do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Johnson" <bruce@satx.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Wooohooo!
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bruce Johnson" <bruce@satx.rr.com>
>
> Thanks Mark,
>
> Yes, I've sat in a Sonex, and yes it was a tight fit for myself (5'10" -
> 190) and my father (6'3" - 210), in fact it was quite tight, he would have
> to have his left arm up on the seat the whole time to make that work.
>
> I've sat in Leo Gates 601HDS, although it was by myself, and, it was
> definitely more comfortable. I just can't get over the speed difference
> though. The Sonex is very very fast for the money/size/engine vs the
REAL
> numbers that I've seen reported here for the Zodiac, which is why I've
very
> interested in WW's results. Of course, on a medium cross country, 25+mph
> faster in a less comfortable plane will probably actually take more rest
> breaks etc...
>
> The Buttercup is a Steve Whitman design (http://www.luceair.com/) a rag
and
> tube STOL with a 125mph cruise, 300ft TO distance and 200ft landing. It's
> very likely I would not go that way, as I believe there is only one flying
> now (other than the original which is in an EAA museum I believe) and
since
> I've not yet even started flight training, I probably should not be an
> "early adopter" for an experimental. I'd also have to learn to weld..
What
> attracts me to the idea of it though, is I would likely be able to base it
> out of a 1500ft grass strip at an ultralight airport (soon to be a "Sport
> Pilot center ?) which is less than 4 miles from my house, vs. an airpark
> about a 35min drive from my house (where Leo Gates lives). I would also
> like to be able to perhaps carry a more cargo like a mountain bike when
> flying solo.... Steve Whitman used the original Buttercup to carry parts
> around the country for his racing aircraft.
>
> So maybe that will be the 2nd one eh? ;-)
>
> Bruce - San Antonio
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-
> > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cdngoose
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 5:03 PM
> > To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Wooohooo!
> >
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
> >
> > Bruce, don't recognize the buttercup but have you ever spent 5 min
> > inside the cockpit of a Sonex? Then add a passenger! The Zodiac becomes
> > a very quick choice. As for style !!! Well it is a personal thing !!
> >
> > Mark Townsend
> > Alma, Ontario
> > Zodiac 601XL EJ 2.2L
> > Osprey 2 serial # 751
> > www.ch601.org
> > www.Osprey2.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce
> > Johnson
> > To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Wooohooo!
> >
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bruce Johnson" <bruce@satx.rr.com>
> >
> > Alright Randy!!
> >
> > I'm in San Antonio (well actually Schertz) as well. I can't wait to
> > hear
> > how the Corvair increases your performance over the VW..
> >
> > I've seen very little feedback from WW's installation. I assume he's
> > busy
> > filling orders and paying the bills, but I wonder if perhaps he's
> > tweaking
> > to get better numbers before publishing as it's been along time between
> > updates.
> >
> > In which airpark are you based??
> >
> > Bruce - (still deciding between a Sonex and Z - XL with some interest
> > in
> > the Buttercup - how's that for diverse)
> >
> >
>
> ---
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | 601XL Main Gear Attachment 6-B-11-4 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lance Gingell" <lgingell@matrix-logic.com>
Scott,
I've sent you some pictures off list. I'm not on the fuse yet, but at
least I can answer the 'photo' part of the question!
..lance
DO NOT ARCHIVE
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Laughlin
Subject: Zenith-List: 601XL Main Gear Attachment 6-B-11-4
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin"
--> <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
Fellow 601XL Builders:
I need your help today. I plan to pick up some grade 8 bolts from Lowes
this afternoon to fabricate part 6-B-11-4 (The main gear attachments),
but the drawing and current update have me confused.
To save you the trouble of pulling out your drawings, see this link:
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/MainGearAttach.jpg
The updates of 4/04 on the Zenith website mention "Delete 1" of threads
on bolts..."
After doing the math and adding the thicknesses of the rubber gaskets,
alum.
angle, 1/" nut, etc., it seems like 1" of threads below the bottom of
the
fuselage will work. If you have this part installed or just in a place
where you can find it, can you tell me how far the bolts (and threads)
hang below the bottom of the fuselage? A close-up photo of the part
with a ruler would provide the best help.
Thanks in advance,
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
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| Subject: | 601XL Main Gear Attachment 6-B-11-4 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
ALL:
Lance Gingell sent me some photos that will work great. Thanks Lance, I
hope I can return the favor some day.
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
DO NOT ARCHIVE
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin"
<cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
Fellow 601XL Builders:
I need your help today.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bruce Johnson" <bruce@satx.rr.com>
Yup, me thinks so...
The slight change in the SP gross weight with corresponding slight change in
"clean" stall speed put it right there. I think ( with my limited
knowledge) it would be a good candidate for a Corvair as well.
I've seen the Buttercup "kit" mentioned on aircraft spruce's site but no
pricing etc, and I believe it is a kit of raw materials.
Getting back to Zenith discussion.. no one' heard from WW on what's
happening with his 601XL & cruise speeds etc???
Bruce
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pilot
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 11:31 AM
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wooohooo!
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Pilot" <dhugunin@comcast.net>
>
> I think that it might actually qualify for Sport Pilot designation:
> http://www.luceair.com/specs/info.htm
> Engine Model O-200
> Engine Horsepower 100
> Propeller 66/55
> Cruise Speed 125 mph
> Top Speed 145 mph
> Landing Speed 40 mph
> Maximum Speed (Vne) 150 mph
> Stall (clean) 51 mph
> Rate of Climb 550 ft./min.
> Gross Weight 1290 Pounds
> Empty Weight 790 Pounds
> Payload 500 Pounds
>
> Wing Span 29'5"
> Wing Area 132 sq.ft.
> Aircraft Length 19' 6"
> Fuselage Height - Cabin 44"
> Fuel Capacity 20 Gallons
> Seats 2 (side-by-side)
> Cabin Width 40"
> Takeoff Distance 300 feet
> Landing Distance 200 feet
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Schoenberger" <hrs1@frontiernet.net>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wooohooo!
>
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Schoenberger"
> <hrs1@frontiernet.net>
>
> FWIW . . . I've seen an ad by one of the big supply houses that they make
> the Buttercup kit among other. The flight characteristics are impressive,
> but I'm not sure it would meet sport pilot specs. Robert Schoenberger
> 701 - 40% do not archive.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Johnson" <bruce@satx.rr.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Wooohooo!
>
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bruce Johnson" <bruce@satx.rr.com>
> >
> > Thanks Mark,
> >
> > Yes, I've sat in a Sonex, and yes it was a tight fit for myself (5'10" -
> > 190) and my father (6'3" - 210), in fact it was quite tight, he would
> have
> > to have his left arm up on the seat the whole time to make that work.
> >
> > I've sat in Leo Gates 601HDS, although it was by myself, and, it was
> > definitely more comfortable. I just can't get over the speed difference
> > though. The Sonex is very very fast for the money/size/engine vs the
> REAL
> > numbers that I've seen reported here for the Zodiac, which is why I've
> very
> > interested in WW's results. Of course, on a medium cross country,
> 25+mph
> > faster in a less comfortable plane will probably actually take more rest
> > breaks etc...
> >
> > The Buttercup is a Steve Whitman design (http://www.luceair.com/) a rag
> and
> > tube STOL with a 125mph cruise, 300ft TO distance and 200ft landing.
> It's
> > very likely I would not go that way, as I believe there is only one
> flying
> > now (other than the original which is in an EAA museum I believe) and
> since
> > I've not yet even started flight training, I probably should not be an
> > "early adopter" for an experimental. I'd also have to learn to weld..
> What
> > attracts me to the idea of it though, is I would likely be able to base
> it
> > out of a 1500ft grass strip at an ultralight airport (soon to be a
> "Sport
> > Pilot center ?) which is less than 4 miles from my house, vs. an airpark
> > about a 35min drive from my house (where Leo Gates lives). I would also
> > like to be able to perhaps carry a more cargo like a mountain bike when
> > flying solo.... Steve Whitman used the original Buttercup to carry parts
> > around the country for his racing aircraft.
> >
> > So maybe that will be the 2nd one eh? ;-)
> >
> > Bruce - San Antonio
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-
> list-
> > > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cdngoose
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 5:03 PM
> > > To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Wooohooo!
> > >
> > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
> > >
> > > Bruce, don't recognize the buttercup but have you ever spent 5 min
> > > inside the cockpit of a Sonex? Then add a passenger! The Zodiac
> becomes
> > > a very quick choice. As for style !!! Well it is a personal thing !!
> > >
> > > Mark Townsend
> > > Alma, Ontario
> > > Zodiac 601XL EJ 2.2L
> > > Osprey 2 serial # 751
> > > www.ch601.org
> > > www.Osprey2.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce
> > > Johnson
> > > To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Wooohooo!
> > >
> > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bruce Johnson" <bruce@satx.rr.com>
> > >
> > > Alright Randy!!
> > >
> > > I'm in San Antonio (well actually Schertz) as well. I can't wait to
> > > hear
> > > how the Corvair increases your performance over the VW..
> > >
> > > I've seen very little feedback from WW's installation. I assume he's
> > > busy
> > > filling orders and paying the bills, but I wonder if perhaps he's
> > > tweaking
> > > to get better numbers before publishing as it's been along time
> between
> > > updates.
> > >
> > > In which airpark are you based??
> > >
> > > Bruce - (still deciding between a Sonex and Z - XL with some
> interest
> > > in
> > > the Buttercup - how's that for diverse)
> > >
---
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| Subject: | 701 wing instalation |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ron Lee" <rlee468@comcast.net>
I must be missing something in my manuals (4th ed. 8th printing) on the installation
of the wings. There seems to be instructions for everything else. I can't
even find anything on the internet photo guide.
Looking for a procedure, bolts to use Etc.
Ron Tucson AZ
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| Subject: | 701 folding wing installation |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <max.johansson@nokia.com>
To add to Rons question, are there any information on the
installation of the 701 folding wings. I have the option
but no instructions...
Max, 701 builder in Helsinki, Finland
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> ext Ron Lee
> Sent: 19 August, 2004 20:02
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Zenith-List: 701 wing instalation
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ron Lee" <rlee468@comcast.net>
>
> I must be missing something in my manuals (4th ed. 8th
> printing) on the installation of the wings. There seems to be
> instructions for everything else. I can't even find anything
> on the internet photo guide.
> Looking for a procedure, bolts to use Etc.
> Ron Tucson AZ
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary Wolf" <wolfpack@sentex.net>
One thing to keep in mind about the performance of the Buttercup is that
Wittman used to turn the engine to 3000 rpms to achieve the top speed. You
may not wish to do the same.
Gary Wolf
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Schoenberger" <hrs1@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wooohooo!
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Schoenberger"
<hrs1@frontiernet.net>
>
> FWIW . . . I've seen an ad by one of the big supply houses that they make
> the Buttercup kit among other. The flight characteristics are impressive,
> but I'm not sure it would meet sport pilot specs. Robert Schoenberger
> 701 - 40% do not archive.
>
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| Subject: | Re: VOR/Glideslope antenna location |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
A couple of people have asked me about my home made VOR antenna so I decided
to post the details to the list in case anybody else wants to know.
I made the antenna from two automotive FM whip antennas and a PVC pipe cap.
The pipe cap is just a bit smaller in diameter than the width of the rudder,
either a 3/4=B2 or 1=B2 cap as I recall. I drilled two holes in the side of the
cap about 120 degrees apart and mounted just the whip portion of an antenna
in each hole. The whips were threaded at the bottom (8-32 as I recall) and
just screwed into the original base. I attached the coax cable to the whips
inside the pipe cap with ring terminals, center conductor to one whip and
shield to the other. I cut the whips down to about 24=B2 to get them into the
VOR frequency band. Then I filled the pipe cap with epoxy and drilled two
holes through from the end for mounting screws. The assembly attaches to the
top of the rudder by means of a couple of nutserts. The coax passes down
through the rudder though a hole centered under the antenna assembly. You
also need to use a balun with this type of antenna to match the balanced
antenna load with the unbalanced coax antenna cable. There are a few types
of baluns that can be used and some types will require a different
connection between the cable and antenna. I used a bazooka balun which is
just a length of shielding wrapped around the outer insulation of the coax
leading back from the antenna and bonded to the inner shielding about 24=B2
from the antenna.
I got the idea for this antenna from an article in KitPlanes by Jim Weir. I
picked up some more information about baluns and such from several articles
on the internet. I haven=B9t tested this antenna in the air yet so I don=B9t
know how well it works. The whole thing only cost me about $15 so even if it
doesn=B9t work I=B9m not out much. I have been able to pick the weather
broadcast from a VOR located about 12 miles away while on the ground at the
airport. The signal is very weak and broken which is about what you=B9d expect
in that case but at least I know the antenna is picking up something.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
Construction complete.
Getting the paperwork in order.
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| Subject: | Two are known, many are not |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
We Have two names so far!!! Surly you folks can recognize other
builders? This is one time where name dropping is desired!!
Mark Townsend
Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL EJ 2.2L
Osprey 2 serial # 751
www.ch601.org
www.Osprey2.com
do not archive
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
Dear Builders, I have been uploading the Oshkosh 04 Builders Dinner
Photo's to the www.ch601.org website, when I realized I don't have names
for all those faces! I NEED YOUR HELP!!!! Please go to www.ch601.org and
click on the Oshkosh 2004 Builders Dinner link From there you can find
instructions on how you can help me out! This is a little like a contest
on how many fellow builders you know but unfortunately I don't have
prizes! But if all goes well, I will have a Burger or Dog ready for you
at the Sun & Fun WWW.ch601.org and www.ch701.com evening BBQ. Yup were
planning already!!
Mark Townsend
Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL EJ 2.2L
Osprey 2 serial # 751
www.ch601.org
www.Osprey2.com
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| Subject: | Re: Tailwheel Question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Sinclair <mike.sinclair@att.net>
Paul
I bought the 6" (pn/ L-694) from ACS and wish I hadn't. Turns out that the wheel
would break loose from the detente position too easily and at low speeds on
landing (and with the 701 almost all are slow) when the rudder was losing efectiveness,
and I didn't have any steering, I made several off runway excursions
but luckily (did I also mention slow?) there were no serious incidents, just had
to look around and hope there were no witnesses. Although one runway light got
a little to close for comfort. Finally figured out what was going on and I
now have the Matco tailwheel assembly on my plane. Have not had a problem since
and have very positive steering at all speeds. Haven't pulled the other assembly
apart to look yet but suspect it may have a spring and ball into a notch type
of detente. Possibly a heavier spring if that is the case, but will stick with
the Matco. I do have a homebuilders tailwheel assembly for sale (minus the
solid rubber tire, the Matco pneumatic tire was too large for my application, and
that tire is for sale also, but too large for the homebuilders tailwheel setup),
so if anyone is interested contact me off line and I'm sure we can work
a deal.
Mike Sinclair N701TD
Augusta, Kansas
PAULROD36@msn.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: <PAULROD36@msn.com>
>
> Now that I'm committed to a taildragger 601XL, I'm curious to know what others
are using---ACS shows two homebuilder special tailwheels, with 4" or 6" wheels.
Anybody got any experience with either size? I don't expect the weight differential
(2 pounds) to be significant, since the powerplant will be Corvair.
>
> Paul Rodriguez
> 601XL, Corvair
> Working on the fuselage
>
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| Subject: | Re: 701 folding wing installation |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net>
I have been building my 701 for about 20 months now and following all
the discussions including "folding wings"
I considered several things and decided not to use the folding wing
arrangement.
1. With the wings folded, it makes a very tall package subject to a lot
of windage problems and height limitations.
2. It is a two or three man operation to fold the wings.
3. Consider the alternative, removal of the wings. Depending on your
storage or trailer limitations a padded cradle on either side of the
fuselage can hold the wings more securely than the folded
arrangement... The wings come off after removal of only 4 bolts each
side the same as with folding.. The struts (if in the way) are removed
by 4 additional bolts. I have installed quick connects for fuel and
all wire connections at the wing root at the top of the cabin behind an
aluminum trip plate..
It may not be the best way, but it's my way.
Hal Rozema
http://theplanefolks.net
vstol 701 3300
Phoenix Az (DVT)
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| Subject: | Trade or sale? 701 kit/plane |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Eric Parlow" <ericparlow@hotmail.com>
I have an RV-8 empennage & wing kit completed plus a lot of extras.
But......
I'm moving to a new house with a 700 ft grass runway!
I'll be going to flight / A&P school 35 miles away on an airport.
I'm thinking a 701 would be just the thing to commute!
Any interest in a trade or sale?
ERic--
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| Subject: | Trade or sale? 701 kit/plane |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
The empanage is not the same as the RV 7 is it?....I just ordered the
RV7A quickbuild...Sure I could drop the empanage from the order if it's
the same...Would be an even quicker build kit then...:).
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Parlow
Subject: Zenith-List: Trade or sale? 701 kit/plane
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Eric Parlow"
--> <ericparlow@hotmail.com>
I have an RV-8 empennage & wing kit completed plus a lot of extras.
But......
I'm moving to a new house with a 700 ft grass runway!
I'll be going to flight / A&P school 35 miles away on an airport.
I'm thinking a 701 would be just the thing to commute!
Any interest in a trade or sale?
ERic--
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| Subject: | Builders Photo's |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
For those of you whom were not present for the Oshkosh 2004 Builders
Dinner or do not see yourselves in the pictures on the www.ch601.org
website. Please send us a picture of yourself standing with your project
whither it be a flying machine or a single "L" held in your hands!! We
would like the chance to put faces to the names that we see on this
list. You can send all pictures to moderator@ch601.org. I will be
posting them with the other pictures for the Builders dinner.
Thanks
Mark Townsend
Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL EJ 2.2L
Osprey 2 serial # 751
www.ch601.org
www.Osprey2.com
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Online machine shop |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" <drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
David,
There's a very positive article about the emachineshop site in the August 3,
2004 issue of PC Magazine.
It looks to me like the free and easy CAD program would be worth a visit to
the site at the very least.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pilot" <dhugunin@comcast.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Online machine shop
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Pilot" <dhugunin@comcast.net>
>
> Just saw this and thought it would be of interest to the group. You
design, online, and then submit your order and the part is machined and
mailed directly to your home.
> http://www.emachineshop.com/
>
> David Hugunin - KSLE
>
>
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