---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 09/03/04: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:08 AM - Download a 49 page aviation tire manual (Grant Corriveau) 2. 09:48 AM - N633Z tail light (George Swinford) 3. 10:02 AM - Re: Tires tubes vs. tubeless? (rbauer@intergate.com) 4. 10:16 AM - Re: N633Z tail light (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)) 5. 05:12 PM - In-Flight adjustable props (Brandon Tucker) 6. 07:01 PM - Don's 701 with C65 (Jon Croke) 7. 11:01 PM - Construction notes.... Re: Swedish Mufflers (xl) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:36 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Download a 49 page aviation tire manual From: Grant Corriveau --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau http://www.goodyearaviation.com/tirecare.html A good information site regarding aircraft tire mtce... -- Grant Corriveau C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:48:50 AM PST US From: "George Swinford" Subject: Zenith-List: N633Z tail light --> Zenith-List message posted by: "George Swinford" Hey Joe: Is your rudder grounded to the fuselage? If your ground path from the tail light depends on continuity thru the hinges it might not be continuous. By the way, those are nice pictures you posted. I particulary admire the one of the grey-haired guy in the blue shirt looking at your LED instrument lights. How about posting a picture of those lights. George ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:39 AM PST US From: rbauer@intergate.com Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Tires tubes vs. tubeless? --> Zenith-List message posted by: rbauer@intergate.com Per the Goodyear Aviation Tire Manual, Tubed tires need the tube but the tubeless less are ok with or without the tube. The tires have a sidewall vent. Slight pressure loss to to temperature & other factors is normal & adding or removing air is just part of the regular tire care. Rich 801 Quoting Ken Szewc : > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Ken Szewc > > I installed the tubeless tundra tires supplied with my 701SP kit. The > have been installed on my 701 for about 9 months ago and have been > flying the airplane since May (52 hours now). I have not had any major > problem with air leakage from the supplied tires in the tubeless > configuration. I also don't seem to have the out of balance problem that > some people have mentioned. I have had to add a small amount of air to > the tires, but that seems normal to me with any tires. > > I am running about 10 psi in the tires, I am not sure if higher > pressures would cause them to leak more or not. > > > Ken Szewc > N701SZ > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Grant > Corriveau > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Zenith-List: Tires tubes vs. tubeless? > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau > > Has anyone done away with the tubes in the aircraft tires altogether? > Seems > like tubeless works fine on cars and would be a lot less hassle... > > Any comments/experiences to share? > > Thanks > > -- > Grant Corriveau > C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100 > > > == > == > == > == > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:16:25 AM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith-List: N633Z tail light From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" I was just sad Joe didn't get a pic of George drooling over my plane...:) Can't believe you really built that thing in a tent! Frank -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Swinford Subject: Zenith-List: N633Z tail light --> Zenith-List message posted by: "George Swinford" --> Hey Joe: Is your rudder grounded to the fuselage? If your ground path from the tail light depends on continuity thru the hinges it might not be continuous. By the way, those are nice pictures you posted. I particulary admire the one of the grey-haired guy in the blue shirt looking at your LED instrument lights. How about posting a picture of those lights. George == direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. == == == ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:12:07 PM PST US From: Brandon Tucker Subject: Zenith-List: In-Flight adjustable props --> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker Gents, I have searched the archives and found tidbits about in-flight adjustable props, bo not a comprehensive discussion. Many of us would love to go the in-flight route if good performing cost effective props are out there. From what I have seen, IVO is almost reasonable, Woodcomp is pricey, Arplast is somewhere in the middle. I would love to hear from anyone that has performance and pricing information on the different options. Maybe we can bribe Mark or David to get a prop page set up on the 601.org website like the engines page. (sorry if I am volunteering you fine gentlemen for more work, but the engine page is very comprehensive!) Respectfully, Brandon Tucker 601 HDS, corvair wings done, tail done __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:01:38 PM PST US From: "Jon Croke" Subject: Zenith-List: Don's 701 with C65 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" Don Bowns just submitted some nice pics of his completed 701 with a Continental 65 and long range tanks! It's nice to have engine choices! See them at http://CH701.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:01:19 PM PST US From: xl Subject: Construction notes.... Re: Zenith-List: Swedish Mufflers --> Zenith-List message posted by: xl He actually calls it a swiss muffler. From 'Firewall Forward' by Tony Bingelis, EAA 1992 pages 111-113. 'As you may know, Sweden and Switerland were among the first two countries in the world to impose strict - nay drastic - limitations against all noise pollution. ...... Needless to say, the homebuilders were motivated and quickly came up with an unusual muffler which seems to have become the standard Swiss homebuilt muffler. ..... Essentially, it consists of a length of stainless steel mesh rolled into a tubular shape. .. Next, loosely woven cloth ... is rolled around the 4 to 5 foot long stainless mesh tube and its diameter is built up until it becomes a tight push fit into a seamless 80mm diameter aluminum tube.' I used a 2.5 inch diameter aluminum tube. Unfortunately I used 0.065 mil wall thickness. But both tubes still weigh in at about 4 pounds. So I'd save only 2 pounds if I could find 0.032 mil tube. I used a piece of mesh about 12" x 4' and wrapped it with 1.5' of 17 oz knitted fiberglass fabric. I cut some of the 1.5" stainless tube from my busted muffler and riveted it on the ends. I put a bolt through the aluminum and stainless tubes at the engine end to hang them. About midway down the tubes I put bolts through the aluminum tube to hang them there. (material sources: fiberlay.com, onlinemetals.com + Stoneway Hardware - all within bicycling distance in Seattle) They are a design that I could handle. I'm not a welder (yet :) ). I only have ~6 hours on the mufflers. Time will tell how they hold up. If the insides go away I can replace the fiberglass for $15. The tube cost about $45. Stainless steel mesh costs about $100. I used galvanized 1/8" mesh ($10) so I'll probably be replacing it. I'm looking for another source of stainless steel mesh before I need it. I didn't want to spent the $100 until I knew that the mufflers would work out. Joe E N633Z @ BFI 106 hours On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Phil Raker wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Phil Raker > > Hello, Joe, > Please tell us more about the design and construction of your "Swedish" > mufflers. They look very interesting. What is inside those long, straight > tubes? Thanks, in advance. > Phil Raker N556P HDS/Stratus ~85% completed > > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: xl > > > > Hello again all, > > > > I've posted a set of photos at: http://www.cleanh2o.com/633z/ > > There are large (~700k) and small photos (~70k for faster downloading) of: > > > > - the homemade 'swedish' mufflers that I installed last week > > (they weigh about 3 pounds a piece and are nice and quiet, > > the intercom works better without as much background roar, > > and the plane still seems to fly as fast) > > > > Joe E > > N633Z @ BFI > > 105 hours > >