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1. 12:12 AM - Vortex Generator testing (howado)
2. 12:34 AM - Cortec redux (howado)
3. 12:44 AM - Re: Cortec (howado)
4. 06:04 AM - XL for sale - great value - ready to fly (Grant Corriveau)
5. 06:37 AM - Re: Availability of a CH601 and CH701 for Virginia Fly-In (Gig Giacona)
6. 06:47 AM - Gas lifters (LRM)
7. 06:55 AM - Henrob 2000-Welder (LRM)
8. 07:29 AM - Re: Henrob 2000-Welder (Ron DeWees)
9. 07:29 AM - Re: Henrob 2000-Welder (Michel Therrien)
10. 07:38 AM - Re: Henrob 2000-Welder (Scott Laughlin)
11. 08:00 AM - Re: Henrob 2000-Welder (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
12. 01:01 PM - Fw: failure notice (cgalley)
13. 01:37 PM - Re: more Almost Free Teflon (Dan knezacek)
14. 01:42 PM - Clecos (Richard T. Perry)
15. 02:00 PM - Re: Clecos (David Barth)
16. 02:26 PM - Re: more Almost Free Teflon (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
17. 02:35 PM - Canopy for sale! (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
18. 04:06 PM - LED position lights (Bob Miller)
19. 04:54 PM - Re: Clecos ()
20. 05:57 PM - Re: Canopy for sale! (Trevor Page)
21. 06:01 PM - Re: LED position lights (Trevor Page)
22. 06:32 PM - Re: Fw: failure notice (LRM)
23. 07:57 PM - Re: Teflon (Rich)
24. 08:03 PM - Re: Canopy for sale! (Cleone Markwell)
25. 08:36 PM - orders for almost free teflon (Rich)
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| Subject: | Vortex Generator testing |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: howado <howado@cwia.com>
To anyone testing the CH701/CH801 stall characteristics with tail VGs;
remember that these aircraft have very different stall characteristics
in power-off and power on conditions. The latter is more important
since you need to carry power on when landing; they don't float in
with inertia like a Cessna, for example.
I regret not having a flying CH701 to test, but next spring expect to
do so if this matter is still under discussion at that time.
Another set of tests I'd like to see someone do, is to add fairings
and possibly a new cowling to reduce the drag. This would increase the
glide ratio, a big safety factor. As Joa points out, it's easy to get
behind the power curve.
My information regarding the flying characteristics comes from
Niol Lockington www.acomodata.com/zenair701/index.htm
Howard Carter
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: howado <howado@cwia.com>
I have done some research on corrosion coatings since it has become
increasingly difficult to get zinc chromate paint. Here are some
results that may interest the Zenair builders:
The Cortec company reports that Cortec VPCI-373 and 374 are primers,
not designed as standalone corrosion protection coatings. They will
not pass salt spray tests and do not meet MIL-C-5541 requirements.
Therefore, I have decided to not use Cortec materials for interior
corrosion protection in my CH701. Builders who wish to pursue this
further should contact Cortec at 800-426-7832, Email them for a sample
if you wish to make your own tests, samples@cortecVCI.com
Another builder, Jim Pensinger, mentioned the Sanchem Co. as a source
of protection materials. They have a paint called No-Oxid 500 which
costs $120/5 gal. It meets MIL-C-5541 and passes salt spray tests. It
is a standalone coating, not a primer. It is particularly good for
corrosion prevention in aluminum structures made with steel rivets, a
combination that can cause galvanic corrosion. Their paint is thinned
with mineral spirits. A first order with them requires a Fax to
312-733-7432. Their phone is 800-621-1603.
Regards,
Howard Carter
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: howado <howado@cwia.com>
Jim,
I spoke to Sanchem and they recommend their No-Oxid product
at $120/5gal. It meets MIL-C-5541 salt spray requirements.
I'm wary of any product intended as a paint primer if it does not meet
this spec.
I spoke to SynergyairLLC today and heard a strong recommendation for
the Primer Pistol. It needs 45 psi at 4 SCFM, so I ordered it from
Aircraft Spruce, $20.
Howard Carter
Jim Pensinger wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pensinger" <jim@pensinger.net>
>
> Another company, Sanchem, Inc (800-621-1603) has a chromate Free pre
> treatment similar to Cortec. Their 6100 product is available in gallon cans
> ($30 for part A and $30 for part B resulting in 2 gallons of product.
>
> Another solution is single part self-etching primers sold to the automotive
> industry. One of these I have tried is 5113 Mar-Hyde manufactured by Bondo.
> It costs $53 per gallon and is also available in spray cans for $13. It
> gives a flat gray coat that seems to protect the aluminum very well.
>
> Does anyone have experience with the "Primer Pistol" sold by Wicks,
> Aircraft Spruce etc ($23). It looks like a nice tool to spray small
> quintiles of paint.
>
> Jim Pensinger
> 601XL - waiting for kit
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| Subject: | XL for sale - great value - ready to fly |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
This aircraft is for sale by Art Mitchell, former owner of FlyPass -- the
Canadian dealer for Zenith products. If you just want to get flying, in an
excellent aircraft loaded with special features and built to the highest
standards, this is worth looking at. I've posted 2 photos to the list
'photoshare' so check there for a look -- contact me or Art directly for
more photos and details.
btw, 65,000C$ is roughly 48,000 USD
--
Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
Here is some of the data on the plane. It is registered C-GOXL, 2002,
approx 100 hrs total time, 912S 100 hp engine, constant speed Woodcomp
propeller with overhaul manuals, European fiberglass landing gear (way
nicer), wheel pants, King 97 VHF radio, Intercom with CD player, four point
harnesses, dual brakes, GPS III, Lightspeed 15 noise canceling head sets,
custom interior, extra wing lockers, landing lights, nav/strobe lights, max
cruise over 140 mph, normal cruise 130, climbs and cruises faster than any
601 without constant speed prop., built by Czech Aircraft Works but final
inspections done in my name for Canadian registration. I have over $75,000
plus my time in the plane. I would like to get $65,000 out of it but am
open to offers. ...
Cheers.
Art Mitchell
Ministry Partnership & Volunteer Area Rep Coordinator
Mission Aviation Fellowship of Canada
519 821 3914
<amitchell@mafc.org>
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| Subject: | RE: Availability of a CH601 and CH701 for Virginia Fly-In |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox-internet.com>
While I wish this organization all the luck in the world and may even use
their services, if they exist before I fly my plane. I find it a little
concerning that a company that is going to be teaching people to fly
requests that pilots violate the FARs.
> Time: 03:17:46 AM PST US
> From: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
> Subject: Zenith-List: RE: Availability of a CH601 and CH701 for Virginia
> Fly-In
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I am the President of the Mid-Atlantic Region for Sport Planes, LTD. We
> have exclusive rights in the USA to sell the following Light Sport
> Aircraft: ZENAIR 601 XL, ZENAIR 701 STOL, Mermaid Amphibious Aircraft
> and the Czech WT-9. I'm planning to have a Sport Planes, LTD exhibit
> at the upcoming Virginia Fly-In on 18-19 September, but have no
> airplanes to exhibit. You see, the actual LSA will not be available
> until probably January or February since they still have not finalized
> the ASTM standards.
>
> I'm looking for owners of either a ZENAIR/ZENITH 601 or 701 who are
> willing to bring their planes to the Virginia Fly-In so that I can show
> them to potential customers as examples of what the actual LSA will look
> like when they are finally approved for sale.
>
> I will pay for the cost of fuel and one night of lodging at a local
> hotel for anybody who might be interested in bringing their airplane to
> Petersburg airport in Virginia for the Fly-In. It starts on Saturday
> morning and ends on Sunday afternoon (18-19 September, 2004)
>
> Let me know soon, so I can reserve a tie-down spot for your airplane.
>
> Jim Pellien
> President
> Mid-Atlantic Regional Center
> Sport Planes, LTD
> 703-313-4818 (office)
> 703-851-9375 (cell)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "LRM" <lrm@isp.com>
NAPA auto parts store has lots of different gas springs, they call them gas lifters.
Looking through their book, I found two which I am considering.
1. Part # 819-5246, 12 3/4" long collapsed. It didn't the extended lenght. 28
lbs pressure. My cost $22.98.
2. Part # 819-5520, 12" collapsed, 20" extended. 20 lbs pressure. My cost $21.98.
The prices are shop prices, walk in would be 4 or 5 bucks higher.
I am going to use # two. The bubble ZAC doors weigh about 4 lbs and are fairly
flimsy. I believe 20 lbs of pressure would be plenty.
Both are ball and socket. You would have to buy the balls, NAPA has them. I didn't
price them because I am going to fill the ends with an epoxy and dill them
to accept 1/4" bolts.
Any thoughts would be welcome.
I've started the paint process on my 701. You can see the hint of color on my site.
I am laying up the horizontal tip molds today, which I intend to start marketing
the tips and the wheel pants very soon.
Larry Martin, N1345L
Take a look at my site. Larry's 701
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| Subject: | Henrob 2000-Welder |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "LRM" <lrm@isp.com>
I went to the Auburn Auto Auction in Indiana last week and saw two items which
interested me.
The Henrob 2000-welder. It is a oxygen-acetylene welding and cutting tool. It replaces the regular cutting head, only uses 4 lbs of pressure. The guy was welding 6061 aluminum and also demonstrated welding 4130. He made it look easy. One site that has them is www.cut-like-plasma.com.
I think they are grossly over priced, $329.
Any one out there have one? If so I sure would like to know what you think of it.
The other was aluminum welding using a propane torch and rods to weld two aluminum
cans together. They were only $20 bucks, so I bought some. I'll try it one
day soon and post my thoughts.
Larry Martin, N1345L
Take a look at my site. Larry's 701
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| Subject: | Re: Henrob 2000-Welder |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ron DeWees" <rdewees@mindspring.com>
Larry,
I hate to bust your bubble, but I have tried both processes for welding
aluminum and was not satisfied with them. The Henrob welder looked great and
I saw the demonstration of the 1X3 inch aluminum plates being welded
together. I got so I could do that pretty well, but also found that I never
needed to weld equal sized aluminum plates together. I went back to a
demonstration a couple of years later and asked the demonstrator to weld
different size plates together or make a "Tee" weld, etc. He could not do
it. The torch will do some neat steel cutting, tho.
I also played with the "welding rods" and found that I didn't need to weld
Coke cans together very often and discarded that process.
I did go to a Lincoln TIG workshop at SNF a couple of years ago and ended
up buying a Pro 175 welder. It is fully capable of doing what I needed to
do. It takes a LOT of practice and burned metal to get proficient, but it's
definitely the way to go , I think. THey run about 12 or 14 hundred bucks
which sounds high, but it's your butt on the line if you are welding
aircraft structures but it's an entry level professional system. That is
the one that the Sportair workshops use for the TIG classes, which I also
reccomend.
Go ahead and spend the bucks and it will save you a lot of time in the
long run and it will be an invaluable addition to the shop.
Ron DeWees
N601TD almost complete
----- Original Message -----
From: "LRM" <lrm@isp.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Henrob 2000-Welder
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "LRM" <lrm@isp.com>
>
> I went to the Auburn Auto Auction in Indiana last week and saw two items
which interested me.
>
> The Henrob 2000-welder. It is a oxygen-acetylene welding and cutting tool.
It replaces the regular cutting head, only uses 4 lbs of pressure. The guy
was welding 6061 aluminum and also demonstrated welding 4130. He made it
look easy. One site that has them is www.cut-like-plasma.com.
> I think they are grossly over priced, $329.
> Any one out there have one? If so I sure would like to know what you think
of it.
>
> The other was aluminum welding using a propane torch and rods to weld two
aluminum cans together. They were only $20 bucks, so I bought some. I'll
try it one day soon and post my thoughts.
>
>
> Larry Martin, N1345L
>
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| Subject: | Re: Henrob 2000-Welder |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
One of my friends recently purchased one and made a
demonstration for me. We compared my torch set for
cutting with his Henrob... not the same thing at all.
His is much more precise. He also demonstrated
welding to me and the result was great. Holding the
torch seems also to be very natural. He also used the
service support of the company for questions and he
said support is great.
He believe that this is the best thing in the world.
I'll buy one eventually.
Michel
do not archive
--- LRM <lrm@isp.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "LRM"
> <lrm@isp.com>
>
> I went to the Auburn Auto Auction in Indiana last
> week and saw two items which interested me.
>
> The Henrob 2000-welder. It is a oxygen-acetylene
> welding and cutting tool. It replaces the regular
> cutting head, only uses 4 lbs of pressure. The guy
> was welding 6061 aluminum and also demonstrated
> welding 4130. He made it look easy. One site that
> has them is www.cut-like-plasma.com.
> I think they are grossly over priced, $329.
> Any one out there have one? If so I sure would like
> to know what you think of it.
>
> The other was aluminum welding using a propane torch
> and rods to weld two aluminum cans together. They
> were only $20 bucks, so I bought some. I'll try it
> one day soon and post my thoughts.
>
>
> Larry Martin, N1345L
>
> Take a look at my site. Larry's 701
>
=====
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Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby
http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
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| Subject: | Henrob 2000-Welder |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
Larry:
A while back I purchased a MECO midget welding torch from
www.tinmantech.com. For a beginner welding 4130 it works great. I have not
had good luck with aluminum, but I haven't use the proper cleaner and flux.
The MECO midget does not have cutting ability, but most of the thin stuff we
do on airplanes can be cut with a band saw. The torch, tips, hoses and
regulators were under $300.
I can vouch for the MECO, but not the Henrob.
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: "LRM" <lrm@isp.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Henrob 2000-Welder
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "LRM" <lrm@isp.com>
I went to the Auburn Auto Auction in Indiana last week and saw two items
which interested me.
The Henrob 2000-welder. It is a oxygen-acetylene welding and cutting tool.
It replaces the regular cutting head, only uses 4 lbs of pressure. The guy
was welding 6061 aluminum and also demonstrated welding 4130. He made it
look easy. One site that has them is www.cut-like-plasma.com.
I think they are grossly over priced, $329.
Any one out there have one? If so I sure would like to know what you think
of it.
The other was aluminum welding using a propane torch and rods to weld two
aluminum cans together. They were only $20 bucks, so I bought some. I'll
try it one day soon and post my thoughts.
Larry Martin, N1345L
Take a look at my site. Larry's 701
---
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| Subject: | Henrob 2000-Welder |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
The Henrob is wonderful for cutting steel (remember to use a straight
edge!) but I never got good enough to weld aluminium...Not saying I
could'nt just that the first two tries made me realise you have to be
very good indeed!
TIG is the way to go...But I've only tried a couple of times ...but I
did get actual welds with TIG.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron DeWees
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Henrob 2000-Welder
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ron DeWees" <rdewees@mindspring.com>
Larry,
I hate to bust your bubble, but I have tried both processes for welding
aluminum and was not satisfied with them. The Henrob welder looked great
and I saw the demonstration of the 1X3 inch aluminum plates being welded
together. I got so I could do that pretty well, but also found that I
never needed to weld equal sized aluminum plates together. I went back
to a demonstration a couple of years later and asked the demonstrator to
weld different size plates together or make a "Tee" weld, etc. He could
not do it. The torch will do some neat steel cutting, tho.
I also played with the "welding rods" and found that I didn't need to
weld Coke cans together very often and discarded that process.
I did go to a Lincoln TIG workshop at SNF a couple of years ago and
ended up buying a Pro 175 welder. It is fully capable of doing what I
needed to do. It takes a LOT of practice and burned metal to get
proficient, but it's definitely the way to go , I think. THey run about
12 or 14 hundred bucks which sounds high, but it's your butt on the line
if you are welding aircraft structures but it's an entry level
professional system. That is the one that the Sportair workshops use
for the TIG classes, which I also reccomend.
Go ahead and spend the bucks and it will save you a lot of time in the
long run and it will be an invaluable addition to the shop.
Ron DeWees
N601TD almost complete
----- Original Message -----
From: "LRM" <lrm@isp.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Henrob 2000-Welder
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "LRM" <lrm@isp.com>
>
> I went to the Auburn Auto Auction in Indiana last week and saw two
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| Subject: | Fw: failure notice |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
>
> Like most everything that welds aluminum it takes lots of skill and
> practice. I have bunch of the Aluminum rods which was given to me over 20
> years ago. Produces a very hard joint which will quickly crack in service
> and then you can't have it TIGed as it is now contaminated. Kiss your $20
> goodbye.
>
> Cy Galley - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair
> Safety Programs Editor - TC
> EAA Sport Pilot
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LRM" <lrm@isp.com>
> To: "Zenith Forum" <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 8:52 AM
> Subject: Zenith-List: Henrob 2000-Welder
>
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "LRM" <lrm@isp.com>
> >
> > I went to the Auburn Auto Auction in Indiana last week and saw two items
> which interested me.
> >
> > The Henrob 2000-welder. It is a oxygen-acetylene welding and cutting
tool.
> It replaces the regular cutting head, only uses 4 lbs of pressure. The
guy
> was welding 6061 aluminum and also demonstrated welding 4130. He made it
> look easy. One site that has them is www.cut-like-plasma.com.
> > I think they are grossly over priced, $329.
> > Any one out there have one? If so I sure would like to know what you
think
> of it.
> >
> > The other was aluminum welding using a propane torch and rods to weld
two
> aluminum cans together. They were only $20 bucks, so I bought some. I'll
> try it one day soon and post my thoughts.
> >
> >
> > Larry Martin, N1345L
> >
> > Take a look at my site. Larry's 701
> >
> >
> > ---
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: more Almost Free Teflon |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan knezacek" <dknezace@bconnex.net>
Sort of off topic, but not really;
I have the old style canopy on my plane. I used UHMW for the bearings and
noticed the other day that they are all cracked, probably from 6 years in
the sun. I am making some more out of UV stabilised UHMW I got from Noah's
for a boat.
I was talking to a plastic supplier the other day and they said that Teflon
is not UV resistant, so for my application Teflon wouldn't work. It has to
be protected from sunlight.
Dan
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Richard T. Perry" <perryrt@hotmail.com>
Douglas - sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you, I've been busy.
If you're looking for sheer quantity/price vs top quality, I'd recommend
buying used clecos from a place in Wichita KS called The Yard
(www.yardstore.com) - it's a salvage place that gets a lot of stuff from
"the big Four" (Cessna, Beech, Lear,and Boeing). They've got used clecos for
0.25 each, which is a bit cheaper than the .34 in the Aircraft Tool Supply
catalog. I used to use them when I was in A&P school for tools - there's no
really great deals there, but decent pricing overall.
Now, my experience is that you will get some that are worn out and won't
hold much anymore, but if you're planning on putting a BUNCH of clecos into
a skin, that's less of a problem than if you're just putting in a few
strategically located clecos, so take it for what it's worth. At those
prices you can afford to throw away 25% of them, anyway.
Regards,
Richard T. Perry perryrt@hotmail.com
"Fraser, there's a guy on my corner who asks me every
morning if I've seen God; do you really think he
expects me to point Him out?"
"Well, you know, Ray, if you did, perhaps he'd stop
asking."
Ray Vecchio and Benton Fraser, "Hawk and a Handsaw", Due_South
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: David Barth <davids601xl@yahoo.com>
When looking for a good deal on clecos you should really give Airports a call. When I was there last I am sure I got some brand new clecoes for better than 25 cents apiece. http://www.airpartsinc.com/ They have an 800 number on this sight so it won't hurt to give them a call for pricing. They guys there are great to deal with. They always have a booth at OSHKOSH and we got the very best deal on clecos from there. Great place to get solit rivet dies as well - used for 1.00 to 2.00 each. Just my 2 cents.
David
David Barth
601 XL Plansbuilder 15% done?
Working on Wings
www.ch601.org
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
My standard nylon sheet has worked just fine for about the same period
but it is always hangared.
I made a full length bearing (length of the canopy side) with a router
and a 7/8ths half round bit.
Frank
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan
knezacek
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: more Almost Free Teflon
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan knezacek" <dknezace@bconnex.net>
Sort of off topic, but not really;
I have the old style canopy on my plane. I used UHMW for the bearings
and noticed the other day that they are all cracked, probably from 6
years in the sun. I am making some more out of UV stabilised UHMW I got
from Noah's for a boat.
I was talking to a plastic supplier the other day and they said that
Teflon is not UV resistant, so for my application Teflon wouldn't work.
It has to be protected from sunlight.
Dan
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| Subject: | Canopy for sale! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
HI guys,
When I built my plane 5 years ago I aquired a brand new canopy from ZAC
which I never used. It has been sitting protectively wrapped in the loft
of my shop out of the way of potential accidents(although not curled up
like when it is shipped) and still has the protective film on it.
It is a standard slightly tinted canopy not damaged or modified in any
way.
I was keeping the thing "just in case" but as I am now looking at
building a new airplane it might be the time to sell it to someone who
needs it.
I havent looked at the cost of them these days.
I'm in Corvallis Oregon so the floor is open to anyone who wants to make
an offer....:)
Frank
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan
knezacek
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: more Almost Free Teflon
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan knezacek" <dknezace@bconnex.net>
Sort of off topic, but not really;
I have the old style canopy on my plane. I used UHMW for the bearings
and noticed the other day that they are all cracked, probably from 6
years in the sun. I am making some more out of UV stabilised UHMW I got
from Noah's for a boat.
I was talking to a plastic supplier the other day and they said that
Teflon is not UV resistant, so for my application Teflon wouldn't work.
It has to be protected from sunlight.
Dan
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| Subject: | LED position lights |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" <drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
I just received some 12 volt LED array bulbs I intend to use for position lights.
The white one was $12.99--it has 24 superbright LEDs with a wide viewing angle,
looks like it should serve as a tail position light. The red one was $6.99--it
has 24 LEDs also, but 6 of them are positioned to point laterally. This
should serve as a left wing position light if it is bright enough. Unfortunately
it doesn't look like they have any green ones that would work.
From what I can tell, the candlepower and visibility should meet FAR standards, though a small mirror may be necessary. The bulbs are 1 inch in diameter and one and one-half inches overall length, and have a 15mm dual contact bayonet base. Here's the link: http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?productCAR.
I'd be real interested in what some of you more technically sophisticated types
have to say about them.
Bob
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Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 18:50:51 -0500
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <PAULROD36@msn.com>
I was at Airparts last week, and, if memory serves, their Clecoes were $.17 each.
They were also selling Avex's at $6.95 per hundred. Very nice folks, and very
helpful.
Paul Rodriguez
601XL, working on the fuselage
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From: David Barth<mailto:davids601xl@yahoo.com>
To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Clecos
--> Zenith-List message posted by: David Barth <davids601xl@yahoo.com<mailto:davids601xl@yahoo.com>>
When looking for a good deal on clecos you should really give Airports a call. When I was there last I am sure I got some brand new clecoes for better than 25 cents apiece. http://www.airpartsinc.com/<http://www.airpartsinc.com/> They have an 800 number on this sight so it won't hurt to give them a call for pricing. They guys there are great to deal with. They always have a booth at OSHKOSH and we got the very best deal on clecos from there. Great place to get solit rivet dies as well - used for 1.00 to 2.00 each. Just my 2 cents.
David
David Barth
601 XL Plansbuilder 15% done?
Working on Wings
www.ch601.org<http://www.ch601.org/>
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy for sale! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page <webmaster@upac.ca>
Darn, wish I knew this yesterday, I just ordered a new canopy from Todd
Silver (toddscanopies.com) !!
Oh well... Life goes on and the building process continues.
Trevor Page
95.2% complete 601HD
On Sep 8, 2004, at 5:32 PM, Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis) wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
> <frank.hinde@hp.com>
>
> HI guys,
>
> When I built my plane 5 years ago I aquired a brand new canopy from ZAC
> which I never used. It has been sitting protectively wrapped in the
> loft
> of my shop out of the way of potential accidents(although not curled up
> like when it is shipped) and still has the protective film on it.
>
> It is a standard slightly tinted canopy not damaged or modified in any
> way.
>
> I was keeping the thing "just in case" but as I am now looking at
> building a new airplane it might be the time to sell it to someone who
> needs it.
>
> I havent looked at the cost of them these days.
>
> I'm in Corvallis Oregon so the floor is open to anyone who wants to
> make
> an offer....:)
>
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan
> knezacek
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: more Almost Free Teflon
>
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan knezacek"
> <dknezace@bconnex.net>
>
> Sort of off topic, but not really;
>
> I have the old style canopy on my plane. I used UHMW for the bearings
> and noticed the other day that they are all cracked, probably from 6
> years in the sun. I am making some more out of UV stabilised UHMW I
> got
> from Noah's for a boat.
>
> I was talking to a plastic supplier the other day and they said that
> Teflon is not UV resistant, so for my application Teflon wouldn't work.
> It has to be protected from sunlight.
>
> Dan
>
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| Subject: | Re: LED position lights |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page <webmaster@upac.ca>
I don't have much to say about the LED as tail position lights or even
nav lights but I installed blue super bright LEDs for all my switches
in my panel and they sure look good :) I mainly did this so I can see
if power is being applied to each switch so I know if something isn't
working or a fuse has blown.
Trevor Page
95.1% 601HD
On Sep 8, 2004, at 7:05 PM, Bob Miller wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller"
> <drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
>
> I just received some 12 volt LED array bulbs I intend to use for
> position lights. The white one was $12.99--it has 24 superbright LEDs
> with a wide viewing angle, looks like it should serve as a tail
> position light. The red one was $6.99--it has 24 LEDs also, but 6 of
> them are positioned to point laterally. This should serve as a left
> wing position light if it is bright enough. Unfortunately it doesn't
> look like they have any green ones that would work.
>
>> From what I can tell, the candlepower and visibility should meet FAR
>> standards, though a small mirror may be necessary. The bulbs are 1
>> inch in diameter and one and one-half inches overall length, and have
>> a 15mm dual contact bayonet base. Here's the link:
>> http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?productCAR.
>
> I'd be real interested in what some of you more technically
> sophisticated types have to say about them.
> Bob
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: failure notice |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "LRM" <lrm@isp.com>
That won't be the first 20 I kissed goodbye or probably the last. And, I
figured as much.
Do not archive, Larry N1345L
----- Original Message -----
From: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Subject: Zenith-List: Fw: failure notice
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
>
>
> >
> > Like most everything that welds aluminum it takes lots of skill and
> > practice. I have bunch of the Aluminum rods which was given to me over
20
> > years ago. Produces a very hard joint which will quickly crack in
service
> > and then you can't have it TIGed as it is now contaminated. Kiss your
$20
> > goodbye.
> >
> > Cy Galley - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair
> > Safety Programs Editor - TC
> > EAA Sport Pilot
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "LRM" <lrm@isp.com>
> > To: "Zenith Forum" <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 8:52 AM
> > Subject: Zenith-List: Henrob 2000-Welder
> >
> >
> > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "LRM" <lrm@isp.com>
> > >
> > > I went to the Auburn Auto Auction in Indiana last week and saw two
items
> > which interested me.
> > >
> > > The Henrob 2000-welder. It is a oxygen-acetylene welding and cutting
> tool.
> > It replaces the regular cutting head, only uses 4 lbs of pressure. The
> guy
> > was welding 6061 aluminum and also demonstrated welding 4130. He made
it
> > look easy. One site that has them is www.cut-like-plasma.com.
> > > I think they are grossly over priced, $329.
> > > Any one out there have one? If so I sure would like to know what you
> think
> > of it.
> > >
> > > The other was aluminum welding using a propane torch and rods to weld
> two
> > aluminum cans together. They were only $20 bucks, so I bought some.
I'll
> > try it one day soon and post my thoughts.
> > >
> > >
> > > Larry Martin, N1345L
> > >
> > > Take a look at my site. Larry's 701
> > >
> > >
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rich" <rbauer@intergate.com>
John A Krumrine, your email address doesn't seem to work so I'm sending this thru
the list also.
FedEx will be $5.40
Rich
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----- Original Message -----
From: John A Krumrine
To: rbauer@intergate.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 4:33 PM
Subject: Teflon
Rich,
If you email me a shipping cost, I'll use paypal to send you the money.
Thanks,
John
PS. I was looking for 2 feet of the flat stock and 2 feet of the rod with both
cut in 1 foot sections. If you would rather only send one foot, that is fine
as well.
Thanks, John
John A. Krumrine
1241 Old Boalsburg Rd
State College, PA 16801
814 238 8284
jqk4@verizon.net
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy for sale! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Cleone Markwell <cleone@rr1.net>
My 601 canopy is damaged, but I still use it. I would prefer you set a
price that is ok with you. Cleone
At 04:32 PM 9/8/04, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
><frank.hinde@hp.com>
>
>HI guys,
>
>When I built my plane 5 years ago I aquired a brand new canopy from ZAC
>which I never used. It has been sitting protectively wrapped in the loft
>of my shop out of the way of potential accidents(although not curled up
>like when it is shipped) and still has the protective film on it.
>
>It is a standard slightly tinted canopy not damaged or modified in any
>way.
>
>I was keeping the thing "just in case" but as I am now looking at
>building a new airplane it might be the time to sell it to someone who
>needs it.
>
>I havent looked at the cost of them these days.
>
>I'm in Corvallis Oregon so the floor is open to anyone who wants to make
>an offer....:)
>
>Frank
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan
>knezacek
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: more Almost Free Teflon
>
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan knezacek" <dknezace@bconnex.net>
>
>Sort of off topic, but not really;
>
>I have the old style canopy on my plane. I used UHMW for the bearings
>and noticed the other day that they are all cracked, probably from 6
>years in the sun. I am making some more out of UV stabilised UHMW I got
>from Noah's for a boat.
>
>I was talking to a plastic supplier the other day and they said that
>Teflon is not UV resistant, so for my application Teflon wouldn't work.
>It has to be protected from sunlight.
>
>Dan
>
>
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| Subject: | orders for almost free teflon |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rich" <rbauer@intergate.com>
If you have contacted me but I haven't emailed you yet, please be patient.
There may or may not be any left. Some out there don't seem to be checking
email everyday & this is causing delays.
Thanks
Rich
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