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1. 06:27 AM - 912 Exhaust question (Trevor Page)
2. 06:44 AM - Re: Clecos (Rico Voss)
3. 11:05 AM - Atlanta, Georgia Builders (Scott Laughlin)
4. 12:51 PM - Re: 912 Exhaust question (Cdngoose)
5. 01:18 PM - Bearings for CH701 (howado)
6. 04:20 PM - Re: Bearings for CH701 (Gary Gower)
7. 04:46 PM - Re: Henrob 2000-Welder (Scott and Valeree Stout)
8. 04:56 PM - Re: Canopy Sold! (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
9. 06:31 PM - Re: Re: Availability of a CH601 and CH701 for Virginia Fly-In (Jim Pellien)
10. 07:44 PM - Re: Re: Availability of a CH601 and CH701 for Virginia Fly-In (Mark Stauffer)
11. 09:12 PM - OFF TOPIC - H.R. 5035 (Ray Montagne)
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| Subject: | 912 Exhaust question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page <webmaster@upac.ca>
Has anyone here made a stainless exhaust system for a 912 in a 601?
Reason I ask is the exhaust I got with my used engine is not going to
work for me and I need something more "standard". I see Zenair makes a
SS system but my understanding from a friend who has same is that they
don't have any ball joints and they crack regularly.
I'm wondering if anyone has made something that works well and is
affordable?
Thanks
Trevor Page
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rico Voss <vozzen@yahoo.com>
>I was at Airparts last week, and, if memory serves,
their Clecoes were
$.17 each.
They were also selling Avex's at $6.95 per hundred.
Very nice folks,
and very
helpful.
Paul Rodriguez
601XL, working on the fuselage
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Paul, seems only half your memory is serving...
Bought some yesterday. Clecoes are $17.50/50 (@.35).
Airparts, in KC (airpartsinc.com) 1-800-800-3229.
Good people, have everything.
Rico Voss, XL/Jab, fuse (still), KC Slugworks West
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| Subject: | Atlanta, Georgia Builders |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
Are there any Atlanta area builders on this list? I'll be in the area of
Atlanta and Newnan, Georgia for the next few days and would like to see your
project. Send me an email if you don't mind the company of a fellow builder
for a few hours.
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
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| Subject: | 912 Exhaust question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
Your best bet Trevor is to have Gary Wolf custom make you one for your
912.
Mark Townsend
Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL EJ 2.2L
Osprey 2 serial # 751
www.ch601.org
www.Osprey2.com
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Trevor Page
Subject: Zenith-List: 912 Exhaust question
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page <webmaster@upac.ca>
Has anyone here made a stainless exhaust system for a 912 in a 601?
Reason I ask is the exhaust I got with my used engine is not going to
work for me and I need something more "standard". I see Zenair makes a
SS system but my understanding from a friend who has same is that they
don't have any ball joints and they crack regularly.
I'm wondering if anyone has made something that works well and is
affordable?
Thanks
Trevor Page
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| Subject: | Bearings for CH701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: howado <howado@cwia.com>
Has anyone replaced the hinge bearings on the 701 with oil impregnated
bronze bearings? I would prefer to replace steel-on-aluminum bearing
surfaces whenever possible. Any advice would be appreciated.
Howard Carter
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| Subject: | Re: Bearings for CH701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Here in my city is a builder of a 701, he is not in the list, he is
building it that way.
He is a first class builder, has several great projects to great
detail, we have talked about this bearings, but I dont think is
necesary, the movement (in degrees) is so little that the parts will
outlast any of us just with normal oiling.
The areas with more friction are the landing gear (nose and main in the
601 HD and HDS) that uses the nylon bearings.
Just my .02 cetavos
Saludos
Gary Gower.
Guadalajara, Mexico.
--- howado <howado@cwia.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: howado <howado@cwia.com>
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> Has anyone replaced the hinge bearings on the 701 with oil
> impregnated
> bronze bearings? I would prefer to replace steel-on-aluminum bearing
> surfaces whenever possible. Any advice would be appreciated.
>
> Howard Carter
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| Subject: | Re: Henrob 2000-Welder |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Scott and Valeree Stout <the_stouts@worldnet.att.net>
My Henrob is great...
For Aluminum my experience is with differing thicknesses of Aluminum
tube, .058 and .125. It takes a steady hand and a bit of skill but
welding them both is pretty easy. Patience is the key as using a light
flame, to start the puddle on the thicker aluminum then slowly drift to
the thinner aluminum, once the puddle starts you get the angle at which
the torch needs to be to keep the puddle going on both pieces. If
necessary use the rod to absorb some of the radiant heat if the puddle
starts to get away from you. Though, with an aluminum rod it can only
help you so much...
As for welding 4130, it is very easy to do as well...Choosing the tip
size and the appropriate flame is key to getting penetration without
blowing through.
A36 Steel is as easy as the 4130...
As I stated most of my experience is with .058 and thicker materials,
though I did try to weld .025 aluminum and turned it into a potato
chip. As that was not the focus of my welding, intake runners, cooling
tubes, and engine mounts are, I didn't try to find a technique which
works...
For me the decision between this and TIG was I had the ability to do
cutting and could do welding at the airport without the need for
electricity.
It is a bit pricey especially when you figure the total cost of getting
your bottles, hose, goggles, regulators in...
Your choice will depend on your needs...Relative to other oxy-acetylene
outfits the Henrob is probably the better all around torch...
Regards...
-Scott
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Thanks for everyones interest.
Now in the Spring I might be up for selling the whole plane. If you know
of anyone who wants a soob powered HDS with all the Stratus bugs worked
out and fine quality of workmanship let me know....:)
Frank
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hinde,
Frank George (Corvallis)
Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy for sale!
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
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HI guys,
When I built my plane 5 years ago I aquired a brand new canopy from ZAC
which I never used. It has been sitting protectively wrapped in the loft
of my shop out of the way of potential accidents(although not curled up
like when it is shipped) and still has the protective film on it.
It is a standard slightly tinted canopy not damaged or modified in any
way.
I was keeping the thing "just in case" but as I am now looking at
building a new airplane it might be the time to sell it to someone who
needs it.
I havent looked at the cost of them these days.
I'm in Corvallis Oregon so the floor is open to anyone who wants to make
an offer....:)
Frank
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan
knezacek
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: more Almost Free Teflon
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan knezacek" <dknezace@bconnex.net>
Sort of off topic, but not really;
I have the old style canopy on my plane. I used UHMW for the bearings
and noticed the other day that they are all cracked, probably from 6
years in the sun. I am making some more out of UV stabilised UHMW I got
from Noah's for a boat.
I was talking to a plastic supplier the other day and they said that
Teflon is not UV resistant, so for my application Teflon wouldn't work.
It has to be protected from sunlight.
Dan
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| Subject: | RE: Availability of a CH601 and CH701 for Virginia Fly-In |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
For full information about the Virginia State Fly-In on 18-19 September,
please go to the following website:
http://www.vaeaa.org/
Hope to see you there.
Jim
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Rmtnview@aol.com
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: RE: Availability of a CH601 and CH701 for
Virginia Fly-In
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rmtnview@aol.com
Hey Jim, could you tell us more about the fly-in. I live in northwest NC
and
would like to attend. Thanks, rog
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| Subject: | RE: Availability of a CH601 and CH701 for Virginia Fly-In |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mark Stauffer" <mark.stauffer@comcast.net>
The VA EAA fly-in is a very nice event. I've flown there several times both
in "ultralights" (my experimental Maxair Drifter XP503) and in my Cherokee
140. It's one of the biggest fly-ins I've attended in this area. It has a
strong turn out for ultralights, GA, and experimental aircraft. The event
coordinators try hard every year to make it a bigger and better event. Even
last year, right after hurricane Isabel, they had a good turn out, even
without power!
I highly recommend attending if possible. My EAA chapter (Chapter 4, College
Park MD) will have a big group fly down, weather permitting. I hope to see
you there. If I'm lucky I'll have my 601XL down there next year.
Mark
Odenton, MD
Working on firewall. Tail complete, waiting on new style tanks to finish
wings,
rear fuselage complete.
Do not archive
Hey Jim, could you tell us more about the fly-in. I live in northwest NC
and
would like to attend. Thanks, rog
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| Subject: | OFF TOPIC - H.R. 5035 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Ray Montagne <r_montagne@mac.com>
Dear fellow aviation enthusiasts,
I realize this is off topic and don=B9t really intend to start an on-line
conversation on this list but your flying privileges in the US are at risk.
If you are a U.S.A. Citizen then please check out
<http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/pr/040909_weiner.html> or
<http://www.aopa.org/> regarding H.R. 5035. Please do not reply to the
list. Just consider what you think you need to do (such as contacting your
representative in Congress) =AD if anything and act as appropriate off list.
Thanks to all!
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Best Regards, Ray Montagne
Cupertino, CA
Zenith Aircraft Zodiac CH-601-XL
Build Status: Rudder completed
Elevator Completed
Stabilizer Completed
Flaps Completed
Ailerons Completed
Right Wing Completed
Right Wing Tip Completed
Left Wing Completed
Right Wing Tip Completed
Fuselage Under Construction
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