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1. 11:14 AM - Re: 701 flaperon arm Question ? (JERICKSON03E@aol.com)
2. 11:16 AM - 601XL 6B16-3 Query (Ray Montagne)
3. 11:58 AM - Re: 601XL 6B16-3 Query (Rico Voss)
4. 12:09 PM - Re: 601XL 6B16-3 Query (Ray Montagne)
5. 05:11 PM - CH-640 REAR SEAT AREA (Jeff Paden)
6. 05:35 PM - [ Bryan Martin ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
7. 05:37 PM - [ Grant Corriveau ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
8. 05:49 PM - Re: CH-640 REAR SEAT AREA (wscribb)
9. 05:51 PM - Re: CH-640 REAR SEAT AREA (Stephen Adams)
10. 06:18 PM - ZAc's Oil cooler bracket (Rich)
11. 06:18 PM - Slick mags (Rich)
12. 06:25 PM - Re:John Krumrine Teflon (Rich)
13. 06:33 PM - Re: more almost free Teflon (Rich)
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| Subject: | Re: 701 flaperon arm Question ? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JERICKSON03E@aol.com
In a message dated 9/10/2004 12:25:03 PM Central Daylight Time,
petes15515@msn.com writes:
I, m plans building a 701 and I'm currently completing the right wing. Here's
my Q...I made the flaperon arm template as per the plans ( rev. date 09/2003
) but when I clecoed an arm to it and alligned it with the trailing edge of
the wing and the flaperon bracket (7V4-6) it seems to me that my arm is
maybe 10mm further back than the photos in the construction manual indicate.
In other words my arm does not line up equally with the wing bracket but
rather sits slightly inwards.
Peter,
My wings are still open, I looked at the 7V46 print, at the wings, and the
arms. My take is that the requirement is for the pivot holes to be in the
correct place for line up when the ailerons are fitted to the wings.
The geometry of the mating parts will be determined by how close they are to
the design theory of each part. Re look at the your placement of the pivot
hole on each arm. It would be possible to have the hole clecoed properly in space
as determined by the fixture,,, and for the arms to seem miss located on
their brackets.
Look ahead at the aileron construction,, and the rigging of the ailerons to
the wings.
Hope this helps. Jerry
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| Subject: | 601XL 6B16-3 Query |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Ray Montagne <r_montagne@mac.com>
Hello 601 builders,
I am working on the 6B16-3 seat back support channels on the 601XL. The
drawings and instructions indicate that there should be 310 mm clearance
between the top of the 6B5-1 rear seat panel and the curve at the top of the
6B16-6 upper seat and baggage floor support. Mine measures out to 280 mm.
I=B9ve double/triple/quadruple checked the dimensions of placement of the
6B16-6 channel (i.e. 895 mm aft of the instrument panel which is 475 mm aft
of the firewall) and all seems correct. There is no variability in the
placement of the 6B5-1 rear seat panel as its position is fixed by the joint
between the front and aft bottom fuselage skins.
Has anyone else encountered a discrepancy between actual dimensions and the
drawing calling out 310 mm between the top of the 6B16-6 baggage floor
support and the top of the 6B5-1 rear seat panel?
Best Regards, Ray Montagne
Cupertino, CA
Zenith Aircraft Zodiac CH-601-XL
Build Status: Rudder completed
Elevator Completed
Stabilizer Completed
Flaps Completed
Ailerons Completed
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Right Wing Tip Completed
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL 6B16-3 Query |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rico Voss <vozzen@yahoo.com>
> Has anyone else encountered a discrepancy between
> actual dimensions and the
> drawing calling out 310 mm between the top of the
> 6B16-6 baggage floor
> support and the top of the 6B5-1 rear seat panel?
>
> Best Regards, Ray Montagne
> Cupertino, CA
>
Ray--
Just checked mine: Measured 312 from seat back top to
B16-6 top. Was 280 from seat back top to "bottom" of
B16-6 flange. Didn't the drawing say "approx" 310?
But 280 sounds a little fishy.
Rico, XL, doing the baggage floor head-scratch.
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL 6B16-3 Query |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Ray Montagne <ac6qj@earthlink.net>
On 9/11/04 11:57 AM, "Rico Voss" <vozzen@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Rico Voss <vozzen@yahoo.com>
>
> Just checked mine: Measured 312 from seat back top to
> B16-6 top. Was 280 from seat back top to "bottom" of
> B16-6 flange. Didn't the drawing say "approx" 310?
> But 280 sounds a little fishy.
>
Thanks Rico. The drawing say's "cut to fit 310". 30mm seemed to be
substantially off to me. I just cannot find where the error is...
About to head back out to the garage and do more measuring...
Thanks again!
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Best Regards, Ray Montagne
Cupertino, CA
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Zenith Aircraft Zodiac CH-601-XL
Build Status: Rudder completed
Elevator Completed
Stabilizer Completed
Flaps Completed
Ailerons Completed
Right Wing Completed
Right Wing Tip Completed
Left Wing Completed
Right Wing Tip Completed
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| Subject: | CH-640 REAR SEAT AREA |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff Paden" <jeffpaden@madbbs.com>
If anyone on this list is building the CH-640 and has figured out how to
make the rear seats useable, please let me know how you did it.
At this point in time I am so upset that I have built the CH-640 only to
find that even my children do not fit in the rear seats.
I am sure that this flaw can be re-designed and that in time I will figure
it out on my own, but if any of you have done this already then I'd really
appreciate hearing from you.
Thank you
Jeff Paden
Was 99% complete, now back to 90% again!
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| Subject: | [ Bryan Martin ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
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| Subject: | CH-640 REAR SEAT AREA |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "wscribb" <wscribb@centurytel.net>
Hello Jeff,
I'm not building a 640, however, I did discuss the lack of rear seat room on
the Prototype with Zenith during Sun-N-Fun this year. The response I got
was the current kits and plans have been rearranged to allow for
approximately 5 additional inches of leg room. So this should be an easy
work around on your plane, although a hassle. You might call AMD to see if
they will send you an updated set of drawings showing the increased leg
room.
Regards
Bill Cribb
601XL Corvair power
N601WC (reserved)
Plans Building
80% done and a bunch to go
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Paden
Subject: Zenith-List: CH-640 REAR SEAT AREA
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff Paden" <jeffpaden@madbbs.com>
If anyone on this list is building the CH-640 and has figured out how to
make the rear seats useable, please let me know how you did it.
At this point in time I am so upset that I have built the CH-640 only to
find that even my children do not fit in the rear seats.
I am sure that this flaw can be re-designed and that in time I will figure
it out on my own, but if any of you have done this already then I'd really
appreciate hearing from you.
Thank you
Jeff Paden
Was 99% complete, now back to 90% again!
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| Subject: | Re: CH-640 REAR SEAT AREA |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Stephen Adams <dr_steve_adams@yahoo.com>
Jeff,
I am working on the 640. The design has been changed,
moving the rear seats back about 100 mm which does
make a big difference. To do it, the baggage area is
changed a bit, there is a new flap motor bracket, the
rear seat rear support is different and attaches to
the floor behind the pulley assembly, and the front
seat front support is moved back 100mm. You can
probably re-use most of your seat parts, seat belt
brackets etc. The tunnel assembley is 450mm instead of
350 mm. Zac has the updated drawings from 1/04 that
detail the changes. I don't think it will be too
difficult to make the changes, but I'm sure it's not
what you wanted to be doing at this point. If you have
any questions or want to see pictures, let me know. I
just finished the rear seat area last week.
Steve Adams
--- Jeff Paden <jeffpaden@madbbs.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff Paden"
> <jeffpaden@madbbs.com>
>
> If anyone on this list is building the CH-640 and
> has figured out how to
> make the rear seats useable, please let me know how
> you did it.
> At this point in time I am so upset that I have
> built the CH-640 only to
> find that even my children do not fit in the rear
> seats.
> I am sure that this flaw can be re-designed and that
> in time I will figure
> it out on my own, but if any of you have done this
> already then I'd really
> appreciate hearing from you.
>
> Thank you
>
> Jeff Paden
> Was 99% complete, now back to 90% again!
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| Subject: | ZAc's Oil cooler bracket |
0.00 DATE_IN_FUTURE_03_06 Date: is 3 to 6 hours after Received: date
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rich" <rbauer@intergate.com>
Is the ZAC supplied oil cooler bracket for both the O-320 & O-360 or is
there a different one for each?
Rich
801
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0.00 DATE_IN_FUTURE_03_06 Date: is 3 to 6 hours after Received: date
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rich" <rbauer@intergate.com>
I checked the P lead of the Slick mags to ground & it is shorted to it. This
doesn't seem right? What am I missing?
Rich
801
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| Subject: | Re:John Krumrine Teflon |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rich" <rbauer@intergate.com>
John, you sent it to the wrong Paypal account. It's richch801@yahoo.com.
See http://www.intergate.com/~rbauer/teflon.htm
Rich
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: more almost free Teflon |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rich" <rbauer@intergate.com>
USPS tracking # 03031910000000828665
Thanks
Rich
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leo J. Corbalis" <leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: more almost free Teflon
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo J. Corbalis"
<leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net>
>
> I hope I'm in time this time. I'd like 2 pieces, one of each, 1 ft. long.
I
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rich" <rbauer@intergate.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Zenith-List: more almost free Teflon
>
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> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rich" <rbauer@intergate.com>
> >
> > I have more Teflon if anyone is interested.
> >
> > It is .625" diameter & 144" total in length in 4 to 5 foot lengths.
> > I also have 15 strips of Teflon, 1/4" thk x 4-3/8" wide x 48" long.
> >
> > I will cut to a smaller size to make shipping cheaper.
> >
> > Rich
> >
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