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1. 06:54 AM - Re: 601 (Jeffrey Davidson)
2. 08:53 AM - Re: 601 (Jim Pellien)
3. 01:52 PM - [PLEASE READ] - Creation of Model-Specific Zenith Lists...? (Matt Dralle)
4. 02:28 PM - Re: [PLEASE READ] - Creation of Model-Specific Zenith Lists...? (Jon Croke)
5. 02:46 PM - Re: [PLEASE READ] - Creation of Model-Specific (Matt Dralle)
6. 07:30 PM - last bolt on 701 front upper strut fitting? (John Flavin)
7. 08:01 PM - Re: last bolt on 701 front upper strut fitting? (Jon Croke)
8. 08:57 PM - 701 Control stick (RURUNY@aol.com)
9. 11:09 PM - Re: 701 Control stick (Dirk Slabbert)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Davidson" <jeffrey.davidson@earthlink.net>
Jim,
You are on the verge of becoming a nuisance on this list. Please do not
use the list to further your sales activities. And do read the list
guidelines. Your own reluctance to answer questions doesn't gain you any
goodwill.
Jeff Davidson
do not archive
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
>
> Does anybody know of a completed 601 located at an airport in the
> Washington, DC area. I have client who wants to take a look at the
> exterior of one. No need for the owner to be there when they look at
> the exterior.
>
> Jim
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
Jeff,
Thanks for suggesting that I read the guidelines for this list. I did
not realize that all commercial activities were prohibited. I will
cease this type of EMAIL in the future.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey
Davidson
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Davidson"
<jeffrey.davidson@earthlink.net>
Jim,
You are on the verge of becoming a nuisance on this list. Please do
not
use the list to further your sales activities. And do read the list
guidelines. Your own reluctance to answer questions doesn't gain you
any
goodwill.
Jeff Davidson
do not archive
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
>
> Does anybody know of a completed 601 located at an airport in the
> Washington, DC area. I have client who wants to take a look at the
> exterior of one. No need for the owner to be there when they look at
> the exterior.
>
> Jim
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| Subject: | [PLEASE READ] - Creation of Model-Specific Zenith Lists...? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Zenith Listers,
I have received a couple of requests recently asking if I would create some
model-specific lists for the Zenith-List. Specifically, a 601, 701, and
801 List have been requested. I personally think that splitting the List
will generally reduce the over all content and I prefer the single
list. Discussions breed other discussions, and so on and that's what keeps
the list alive and healthy.
That being said, as the List administrator, I want to provide the kind of
service that the members want, so I'm open to discussion on the
topic. Rather than chew up a whole lot of bandwidth on the Zenith-List on
the subject, I have created a simple survey form that will allow all the
members to vote on what they personally would like to see.
Basically, there are three options:
1) Keep it the same. One List (Zenith-List) that services all models.
2) Add three new model-specific lists for the 601, 701, and 801.
3) Add two new model-specific lists; one for the 601, and one for
the 701/801.
In all three cases, the current Zenith-List will remain as is. I will run
the survey for 7 days ending on Sunday September 26th at 12 Noon PDT. At
that time I will tally the votes and post a summary to the Zenith-List.
Below is the URL to the survey form. Upon completion of the survey, you
will receive an email confirming your vote. Please fill out all
information on the form.
http://www.matronics.com/zenith-list/survey.html
Thanks for taking the time to fill out the survey. The more people that
fill it out, the more accurately the results will reflect what the Zenith
Listers would like.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Zenith List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| Subject: | Re: [PLEASE READ] - Creation of Model-Specific Zenith Lists...? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
But, will my vote remain confidential?
Thanks
Paranoid, thin-skinned Jon
(however, I already voted!)
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: [PLEASE READ] - Creation of Model-Specific Zenith
Lists...?
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>
>
> Dear Zenith Listers,
>
> I have received a couple of requests recently asking if I would create
> some
> model-specific lists for the Zenith-List. Specifically, a 601, 701, and
> 801 List have been requested. I personally think that splitting the List
> will generally reduce the over all content and I prefer the single
> list. Discussions breed other discussions, and so on and that's what
> keeps
> the list alive and healthy.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: [PLEASE READ] - Creation of Model-Specific |
Zenith Lists...?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Yes, votes will remain confidential.
Matt
At 02:27 PM 9/19/2004 Sunday, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
>
>But, will my vote remain confidential?
>
>Thanks
>Paranoid, thin-skinned Jon
>(however, I already voted!)
>
>do not archive
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com>
>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Zenith-List: [PLEASE READ] - Creation of Model-Specific Zenith
>Lists...?
>
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
> >
> >
> > Dear Zenith Listers,
> >
> > I have received a couple of requests recently asking if I would create
> > some
> > model-specific lists for the Zenith-List. Specifically, a 601, 701, and
> > 801 List have been requested. I personally think that splitting the List
> > will generally reduce the over all content and I prefer the single
> > list. Discussions breed other discussions, and so on and that's what
> > keeps
> > the list alive and healthy.
> >
> >
>
>
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| Subject: | last bolt on 701 front upper strut fitting? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "John Flavin" <jflavin@intrex.net>
Ladies/Gents:
Per the 701 construction manual, I've already riveted the right wing nose skin
to the bottom of the spar, and am now ready to bolt 7V2-5 (the front upper strut
fitting) to the spar. Probably should have realized this before, but I now
have found that there is not nearly enough clearance between the fitting and
nose skin to put the last AN3-5A bolt through. Only options I can see are to
remove many (if not all) of the rivets on the bottom spar cap so I can flex
the skin back, or put a hole in the lower skin underneath the bolt so I can slip
it into place that way. Needless to say, I'm not crazy about either one
of those options.
Any of you 701 builders run into this before? Any ideas?
Thanks.
John Flavin
Raleigh, NC
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| Subject: | Re: last bolt on 701 front upper strut fitting? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
John,
I think if you were to remove about a foot of rivets from both sides of that
location, you can raise the skin enough to get that bolt in. Drilling these
rivets out is extremely easy - esp since you have that very rigid spar
underneath to support it. Be sure to knock the stems out first and then
drill them out.. you will be surprised how fast it goes if you havent done
this before! With just reasonable care the holes will remain the same size
and then you just rerivet when you're done.
Good luck!
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Flavin" <jflavin@intrex.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: last bolt on 701 front upper strut fitting?
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "John Flavin" <jflavin@intrex.net>
>
> Ladies/Gents:
>
> Per the 701 construction manual, I've already riveted the right wing nose
> skin to the bottom of the spar, and am now ready to bolt 7V2-5 (the front
> upper strut fitting) to the spar. Probably should have realized this
> before, but I now have found that there is not nearly enough clearance
> between the fitting and nose skin to put the last AN3-5A bolt through.
> Only options I can see are to remove many (if not all) of the rivets on
> the bottom spar cap so I can flex the skin back, or put a hole in the
> lower skin underneath the bolt so I can slip it into place that way.
> Needless to say, I'm not crazy about either one of those options.
>
> Any of you 701 builders run into this before? Any ideas?
>
> Thanks.
>
> John Flavin
> Raleigh, NC
>
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| Subject: | 701 Control stick |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com
I was installing the Y control stick to the pitch control rod today. I drilled
the hole in the pitch control slightly not perpendicular to the pin on the stick.
Well, while trying to force it on, I bent the pin on the control stick at
the weld. I think it cracked but am not sure. I was surprised that it gave so
easily as the force used was minimal. I was ready to order a new stick and pitch
rod but searched the archives and came up with a Flaperon control handle picture
from Dave Smith. In the photo I noticed that he modified this attachment
point on the stick as it was in view in the photo.
Dave, could you contact me on or off list to give me an idea what parts I need
and what I need to do a mod similar to yours. Also, you must have modified the
opposite end of the
pitch control rod where it hooks up to the bell crank, could I get a look at this
also if you have a pic?
Also I noticed Larry Martins center stick mod has what I think is a bolt welded
here instead of the hollow tube.
Also any advice from others on what they have done. Thanks.
Link to Dave's picture:
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/Dabusmith@aol.com.10.03.2002/flapperon2.jpg
Brian Unruh
Long Island, NY
http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/bunruh/
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| Subject: | Re: 701 Control stick |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dirk Slabbert" <dirkslabbert@telkomsa.net>
Looks like Dave use some of his tools ( allen key) to great effect hee hee hee
Talk about inovation .......
Dirk 701
----- Original Message -----
From: RURUNY@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 5:56 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: 701 Control stick
--> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com
I was installing the Y control stick to the pitch control rod today. I drilled
the hole in the pitch control slightly not perpendicular to the pin on the stick.
Well, while trying to force it on, I bent the pin on the control stick at
the weld. I think it cracked but am not sure. I was surprised that it gave so
easily as the force used was minimal. I was ready to order a new stick and pitch
rod but searched the archives and came up with a Flaperon control handle
picture from Dave Smith. In the photo I noticed that he modified this attachment
point on the stick as it was in view in the photo.
Dave, could you contact me on or off list to give me an idea what parts I need
and what I need to do a mod similar to yours. Also, you must have modified the
opposite end of the
pitch control rod where it hooks up to the bell crank, could I get a look at
this also if you have a pic?
Also I noticed Larry Martins center stick mod has what I think is a bolt welded
here instead of the hollow tube.
Also any advice from others on what they have done. Thanks.
Link to Dave's picture:
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/Dabusmith@aol.com.10.03.2002/flapperon2.jpg
Brian Unruh
Long Island, NY
http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/bunruh/
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