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1. 02:07 AM - Re: CH801 control forces 0.70 RCVD_BY_IP Received by... (Benford2@aol.com)
2. 07:28 AM - myrtle beach (alex trent)
3. 07:36 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 09/27/04 (Bob & Karen Risch)
4. 09:24 AM - 801 control forces (Keystone Engineering LLC)
5. 09:36 AM - Re: myrtle beach (Larry McFarland)
6. 11:21 AM - Re: myrtle beach (Larry McFarland)
7. 02:15 PM - Re: 801 control forces (Mike Sinclair)
8. 07:10 PM - Re: myrtle beach (Rich)
9. 11:01 PM - Re:CH801 control forces (Jim Frisby)
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| Subject: | Re: CH801 control forces 0.70 RCVD_BY_IP Received |
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
In a message dated 9/27/2004 2:35:16 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
tabranch@yahoo.com writes:
>
> Ch801 fliers:
>
> I am experiencing high aileron control forces mainly at cruise. What are
> other CH801 fliers experiencing?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom Butler
> N801TB
>
Mine is pretty firm too. I bet it's the larger surface area we have because
of the flaperon style roll control instead of the common setup in most planes.
Ben Haas N801BH
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: alex trent <atrent7@cogeco.ca>
I am going to mb for the month of oct. does anyone know of friendly
grass strips in the area? IF so ,where? Anyone building or flying a
Zenith in the area? Would like to visit and compare notes etc.
alex trent
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 09/27/04 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bob & Karen Risch <bkrisch@ouraynet.com>
Tom,
I am not sure from your description just what you are feeling but it
does not square with my experience. Stick forces are nearly neutral in
cruise and turn initiation in either direction takes little pressure.
My wife has flown the plane from the right seat using her left hand on
the stick and has no problems.
Fwiw,
Bob Risch
N801BK
60 hrs.
On Sep 28, 2004, at 12:58 AM, Zenith-List Digest Server wrote:
> Time: 01:34:20 PM PST US
> From: Tom Butler <tabranch@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Zenith-List: CH801 control forces
> 0.70 RCVD_BY_IP Received by mail server with no
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> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Tom Butler <tabranch@yahoo.com>
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> Ch801 fliers:
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> I am experiencing high aileron control forces mainly at cruise. What
> are
> other CH801 fliers experiencing?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom Butler
> N801TB
> 20 hrs.
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| Subject: | 801 control forces |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Keystone Engineering LLC <keystone@gci.net>
>Ch801 fliers:
>I am experiencing high aileron control forces mainly at cruise. What are
>other CH801 fliers experiencing?
>Thanks,
>Tom Butler
>N801TB
>20 hrs.
Tom
I have not experienced high aileron control forces in cruise. When I got a big
person in the back seat the aileron controls rubbed slightly. The controls felt
stiff on that flight until I lowered the flaps. I'm going to support the
back seat with a bracket off the covers for the vertical control rods this winter.
Bill Wilcox
Valdez, AK
N801BW
130 hours
Wishing it was not snowing so I could go flying! (early cold front)
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| Subject: | Re: myrtle beach |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
I assume Myrtle beach in Florida, Alex,
There's SQI (Whiteside County, Stirling IL.)
I'm only 20-minutes from there if you decided
to stop overnight, it's a decidedly friendly place.
Kelly is there and I have my plane nearby at Moline.
Larry McFarland
----- Original Message -----
From: "alex trent" <atrent7@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Zenith-List: myrtle beach
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: alex trent <atrent7@cogeco.ca>
>
> I am going to mb for the month of oct. does anyone know of friendly
> grass strips in the area? IF so ,where? Anyone building or flying a
> Zenith in the area? Would like to visit and compare notes etc.
> alex trent
> do not archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: myrtle beach |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
Or is it the one in North Carolina?
Larry
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----- Original Message -----
From: "alex trent" <atrent7@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Zenith-List: myrtle beach
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: alex trent <atrent7@cogeco.ca>
>
> I am going to mb for the month of oct. does anyone know of friendly
> grass strips in the area? IF so ,where? Anyone building or flying a
> Zenith in the area? Would like to visit and compare notes etc.
> alex trent
> do not archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 801 control forces |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Sinclair <mike.sinclair@att.net>
Tom
Don't know how comparable it is, since I'm flying a 701 not an 801, but they do
have pretty much the same geometry. I have noticed that if the ailerons feel
a little stiff, especially leveling the wings after a tight turn, I just need
to be a little more aggressive on opposite rudder. The 701 (and I suspect the
801
also) feel to me to require more coordination of the rudder than say the 172's
I was used to flying. Definitely more of a stick and "rudder" aircraft. Just
my 2 cents worth though.
Mike Sinclair N701TD 60+ trouble free hours so far.
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> >Ch801 fliers:
>
> >I am experiencing high aileron control forces mainly at cruise. What are
> >other CH801 fliers experiencing?
>
> >Thanks,
>
> >Tom Butler
> >N801TB
> >20 hrs.
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| Subject: | Re: myrtle beach |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rich" <rbauer@intergate.com>
Check out 58J - Higgins Memorial. They only have auto fuel.
Rich
801
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----- Original Message -----
From: "alex trent" <atrent7@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Zenith-List: myrtle beach
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: alex trent <atrent7@cogeco.ca>
>
> I am going to mb for the month of oct. does anyone know of friendly
> grass strips in the area? IF so ,where? Anyone building or flying a
> Zenith in the area? Would like to visit and compare notes etc.
> alex trent
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | CH801 control forces |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Frisby" <n801za@hotmail.com>
Tom,
I have about 50 hrs on my 801 with Lycoming O-320. I installed the "no
slot" aileron mod. Stick forces seem right in line with Cessna 172 or Piper
PA-22. I infer from your note that there is no excess friction in the
controls when standing still.
Jim Frisby
N801ZA
Palmer, AK
(see photos and video at http://www.horizonsignposting.com/N801ZA)
>Time: 01:34:20 PM PST US
>From: Tom Butler <tabranch@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Zenith-List: CH801 control forces
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Tom Butler <tabranch@yahoo.com>
>
>Ch801 fliers:
>
>I am experiencing high aileron control forces mainly at cruise. What are
>other CH801 fliers experiencing?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Tom Butler
>N801TB
>20 hrs.
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