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1. 07:03 AM - float drawings (jnbolding1)
2. 10:28 AM - Re: Spring gear (Brandon Tucker)
3. 10:58 AM - Panel Design - suggestions welcome (Peter Mather)
4. 04:51 PM - Re: 601XL Rudder Tip Rib Rivets (Bryan Martin)
5. 05:03 PM - Re: Panel Design - suggestions welcome (Bryan Martin)
6. 06:59 PM - Re: Panel Design - suggestions welcome (wizard-24@juno.com)
7. 10:27 PM - Re: Re: Spring gear (Gary A. Boothe)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "jnbolding1" <jnbolding1@mail.ev1.net>
Gents, I am in need of a set of drawings for any of the float drawings that Zenith
sold at one time. I really need the 1200 or 1300# as well as the 500# model.
I can pay cash or swap welding or any of about 50 different airplane drawings.
Please respond directly to me NOT thru the list. LOW&SLOW John
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
Gary,
I have done a lot of research into the subject.
I know of two men that have put spring gear under an
HDS, one tri-gear, and one taildragger. They are no
longer on the list, but I have been discussing the
taildragger version with the builder via e-mail. Most
of this information is on the www.ch601.org website,
as previously mentioned.
Grove sells the spring gear with wheels and
brakes and gun drilled brake lines for around $1400.
I have not contacted them for a current price. This
gear is heat treated 2024, and significantly lighter
than the cold bent 6061 that sell with the XL kit. I
was mistaken when I previously said that it comes with
a mounting bracket. Chip at CAW told me that his
composite gear would be 40% lighter than the stock XL
gear and would cost about the same as the Grove gear.
ZAC is shipping my fuselage kit this week, so
hopefully I can get more concrete information and
numbers on the gear over the next several months.
Feel free to contact me off list for mor information.
R/
Brandon Tucker
HDS wings and tail done
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| Subject: | Panel Design - suggestions welcome |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Peter Mather" <peter@mather.com>
I'm just getting some building work done on the house to create space
before ordering an XL. In the mean time much plotting and planning :-)
I've got some avionics from previous aircraft that I've upgraded and have
been looking at trying to get a sensible cost/functionality balance on new
kit to buy.
My current panel design is shown on:
http://www.airplane.org.uk/zenith_zodiac_601xl.htm
I would welcome any comments on what you like, what you don't and any issues
with practicality.
Still haven't chosen between the Jabiru and Rotax but leaning towards the
Jabiru.
Best Regards
Peter
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Rudder Tip Rib Rivets |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
on 10/2/04 2:23 AM, Todd Osborne at todd@toddtown.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Todd Osborne <todd@toddtown.com>
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> The plans clearly state there are 2 A4 rivets in each side of the
> connector piece that holds the rudder tip rib to the spar, but the photo
> right next to it clearly shows there being 4 rivets in the top of the
> tip rib. What have you done? 4 rivets would be tight in such a small
> area, which brings up another point, why is the side that connect to the
> spar web so dang long? If it only gets 2 rivets, like the top, seems a
> peice that has equal sides would be fine.
These rivets are just to hold everything together until you rivet the skin
on, they're not very critical. Two in each end aught to do. If I recall
correctly, the flanges of the tip rib and the flanges on the spar do not
overlap. That would be the reason the end connected to the spar is longer,
the upper 20 mm sticks up beyond the spar web and the rivets go just below
the top end of the spar in the middle of the 20 mm overlapping segment . The
upper flange is entirely in contact with the tip rib so it only has to be 20
mm long.
>
> The plans don't show it, and the manual does not say it, but I have seen
> Zodiac's with rivets through the rudder skin into the tip rib forward of
> the spar. Should there be any here? Thanks.
I think I put one or two rivets on each side forward of the spar just
because there was some gap between the skin and the rib in that area. It
looked better riveted but they're probably not necessary
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
In Phase I testing.
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Design - suggestions welcome |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
on 10/3/04 1:54 PM, Peter Mather at peter@mather.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Peter Mather" <peter@mather.com>
>
> I'm just getting some building work done on the house to create space
> before ordering an XL. In the mean time much plotting and planning :-)
>
>
> I would welcome any comments on what you like, what you don't and any issues
> with practicality.
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> Peter
The panel looks good but you might find the switch panel awkward to reach if
you plan on using the standard "Y" stick (your drawing shows two throttles
so I assume thats what you plan to do). You'll have to reach across with
your left hand to take the stick while you reach around the stick with your
right to get at the switches. You might want to put your most often used
switches where you can easily reach them with your left hand.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
In Phase I testing.
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Design - suggestions welcome |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: wizard-24@juno.com
> My current panel design is shown on:
> http://www.airplane.org.uk/zenith_zodiac_601xl.htm
>
> I would welcome any comments on what you like, what you don't and
> any issues with practicality.
Other than the panel probably costing as much as the whole airframe,
looks good to me. :)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary A. Boothe" <gboothe@calply.com>
Thanks, Brandon. I think I am going to move in this direction.
Gary Boothe
WW Corvair Power - 601
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Tucker" <btucke73@yahoo.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Spring gear
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
>
> Gary,
>
> I have done a lot of research into the subject.
> I know of two men that have put spring gear under an
> HDS, one tri-gear, and one taildragger. They are no
> longer on the list, but I have been discussing the
> taildragger version with the builder via e-mail. Most
> of this information is on the www.ch601.org website,
> as previously mentioned.
>
> Grove sells the spring gear with wheels and
> brakes and gun drilled brake lines for around $1400.
> I have not contacted them for a current price. This
> gear is heat treated 2024, and significantly lighter
> than the cold bent 6061 that sell with the XL kit. I
> was mistaken when I previously said that it comes with
> a mounting bracket. Chip at CAW told me that his
> composite gear would be 40% lighter than the stock XL
> gear and would cost about the same as the Grove gear.
>
>
> ZAC is shipping my fuselage kit this week, so
> hopefully I can get more concrete information and
> numbers on the gear over the next several months.
> Feel free to contact me off list for mor information.
>
> R/
>
> Brandon Tucker
> HDS wings and tail done
>
>
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