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1. 05:37 AM - new engine (ron wehba)
2. 05:45 AM - Matco axle assembly malfunction! Solid axle option (Philip Condon)
3. 05:50 AM - Re: Matco axle assembly malfunction! (Rick Morawski)
4. 06:06 AM - 701 Landing grear axle (Robert Schoenberger)
5. 06:29 AM - Re: Matco axle assembly malfunction! (LRM)
6. 08:04 AM - Re: Matco axle assembly malfunction! (Paul Moore)
7. 08:16 AM - Aluminum Tubing - 601XL (Scott Laughlin)
8. 09:30 AM - Re: Taxi-Tests 601 HDS Stratus Subaru (Leo J. Corbalis)
9. 10:04 AM - Re: Taxi-Tests 601 HDS Stratus Subaru (Lance Gingell)
10. 10:24 AM - Oil Temperature (Roy Engelke)
11. 10:32 AM - Re: Matco axle assembly malfunction! (Gary Gower)
12. 10:43 AM - Rivet puller? (Dirk Slabbert)
13. 10:43 AM - Re: Oil Temperature (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
14. 10:59 AM - Re: Aluminum Tubing - 601XL (Larry McFarland)
15. 11:04 AM - Re: Rivet puller? (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
16. 11:06 AM - Re: Oil Temperature (Larry McFarland)
17. 11:55 AM - Re: Oil Temperature (bryanmmartin@comcast.net)
18. 11:57 AM - Re: Rivet puller? (bryanmmartin@comcast.net)
19. 11:59 AM - Re: Rivet puller? (bryanmmartin@comcast.net)
20. 01:03 PM - Re: Aluminum Tubing - 601XL (Monty Graves)
21. 02:53 PM - Re: Rivet puller? (Aaron)
22. 06:52 PM - Mating cabin floor, firewall, and rear fuselage question. (Mark Stauffer)
23. 08:19 PM - FW: 701 upper strut fitting torque ()
24. 10:15 PM - Re: Rivet puller? (Gary Gower)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "ron wehba" <rwehba@cox.net>
new small V-8
http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/news_folder/v8/index.php
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| Subject: | Matco axle assembly malfunction! Solid axle option |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Philip Condon" <pcondon@mitre.org>
Matco axle assembly malfunction & solid axle
Cessna 180 (and other back-country, hard use Cessna's) have a option called
a P'Ponk mod, STC'ed from a Alaskan mod shop, called the solid axle mod. Its
made of brass and is solid brass, not a tube. These axles have been out for
a long time and were designed to keep the Cessna OEM axle from snapping off
during heavy use.
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| Subject: | Re: Matco axle assembly malfunction! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rick Morawski" <morawski@highway1.com.au>
Mike,
Same thing happened to friend of mine except not so much damage, just a
dent in the fuse where the departing wheel impacted. He said the same thing
about the welding, in fact when he had it rewelded he did the other one for
good measure.
There must be more of these out there than just these two?
Rick Morawski
morawski@highway1.com.au
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Sinclair" <mike.sinclair@att.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Matco axle assembly malfunction!
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Sinclair <mike.sinclair@att.net>
>
> Just a note for you all that may have the wheel and axle assembly that
bolts
> on to the main spring. I believe it is from Matco as supplied by Zenith. I
made
> a landing this evening, a little harder than I would have liked, but
nothing
> that I feel was excessive, on a semi rough grass strip. The left axle
snapped
> at the weld.
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| Subject: | 701 Landing grear axle |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Schoenberger" <hrs1@frontiernet.net>
List . . . I'm buying 701 subkits piecemeal and haven't yet purchased the landing
gear kit. Has the problem which as been discussed the past few days regarding
failure of the axle been addressed in the latest gear kits being sold? Robert
Schoenberger 701 40% Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Matco axle assembly malfunction! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "LRM" <lrm@isp.com>
I didn't scratch build from drawings, Zenith supplied the parts which is
5/8". Actually just increasing an 1/8" isn't much improvement and wouldn't
make a real difference. The problem appears to be in the weld of the axle
to the hub, not the size of the axle. That's why I think a 1" solid
machined axle and hub would be better. The next best would to be to make it
(effectively) solid by inserting a cold rolled steel rod and weld it to the
hub extending thru the landing gear. Larry N1345L
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike and Kerin Gleason" <gleasons@visi.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Matco axle assembly malfunction!
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mike and Kerin Gleason"
<gleasons@visi.com>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LRM" <lrm@isp.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Matco axle assembly malfunction!
> Larry
> I don't which 701 model you're building, but in my drawings for the 701SP
> they secify the 3/4" axle (WH2AXLE7 ) with wheel MH6BD.75 . I was on the
> Matco web awhile ago and it appeared to me all you would need to do is
> replace the axle and the bearings. It looked like the OD of the 5/8"and
3/4"
> bearings were the same with no difference in the hub. I'd check it out
with
> Matco, a lot less expensive than replacing everything.
>
> Mike G
> N299KM
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "LRM" <lrm@isp.com>
> >
> > I know for a fact mine are 5/8". I had aluminum inserts machined to go
in
> > the outer end in order to mount wheel pants.
> > This is scary that Zenith would take a short cut that could cause death
or
> > injury not to mention loss of investment. The more I think about it the
> > more I am determined to fix mine.
> > I believe I will do as I mentioned earlier. Which was if some of you
> didn't
> > read my previous post, was to drill out the backing plate and weld in a
> sold
> > steel rod. I am considering making the internal rod long enough to go
> thru
> > (I like spelling it that way) the landing gear and thread the end to put
a
> > nut on.
> > It's either that or buy new axles, wheels and brakes.
> > If any one has any thoughts, please feel free to tell me.
> > I do know I'm not going to fly it with stock 5/8" axles. I didn't like
it
> > when Roger told me and I sure don't like it now.
> > Larry N1345L
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike Sinclair" <mike.sinclair@att.net>
> > To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Matco axle assembly malfunction!
> >
> >
> > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Sinclair
<mike.sinclair@att.net>
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: Matco axle assembly malfunction! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
Larry, a couple of things I'd do before you try welding in a solid rod.
1. Replace your current assemblies with better ones. The current 3/4"
design is an option, as long as it fixes the quality problem at the same
time. Maybe the Grove model, or at least something that will be technically
better than what you have. These, at the very least, have a "history" of
problems (at least one failure and at least one additional bad weld
identified).
2. Your rod idea isn't that bad, but I think I would not weld on the current
axle setup for two reasons:
a. Additional welding will tend to recrystalize the metal and
further decrease it's strength and ability to survive without failing.
b. It isn't necessary in order to get the same strength enhancement
you are seeking.
Instead, if this is your preferred fix, drill the back plate as you
described, but use a grade 8 bolt instead of the solid rod. You can put a
supporting washer under the head on the gear leg side, pick the right length
to add a nut on the outside, and it too would server to not only strengthen
your current axle, but serve as an adequate backup in case of failure. Just
remember to add a rigorous inspection to your checklist to verify the
assembly isn't cracking and failing over time.
Paul - speaking from a career of engineering experience.
Time: 06:30:05 PM PST US
From: "LRM" <lrm@isp.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Matco axle assembly malfunction!
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "LRM" <lrm@isp.com>
I know for a fact mine are 5/8". I had aluminum inserts machined to go in
the outer end in order to mount wheel pants. This is scary that Zenith would
take a short cut that could cause death or injury not to mention loss of
investment. The more I think about it the more I am determined to fix mine.
I believe I will do as I mentioned earlier. Which was if some of you didn't
read my previous post, was to drill out the backing plate and weld in a sold
steel rod. I am considering making the internal rod long enough to go thru
(I like spelling it that way) the landing gear and thread the end to put a
nut on. It's either that or buy new axles, wheels and brakes. If any one has
any thoughts, please feel free to tell me. I do know I'm not going to fly it
with stock 5/8" axles. I didn't like it when Roger told me and I sure don't
like it now. Larry N1345L
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| Subject: | Aluminum Tubing - 601XL |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
Fellow 601XL Builders:
Can you provide me with the actual O.D. of the aluminum tubing from your kit
for 6-B-21-1? It's the aluminum tubing that forms the top of the rear
fuselage. The drawings call for 3/4" X .058" tubing. My supplier tells me
that 1/2" tubing has an O.D. of .84" which is bigger than 3/4".
I'm a little confused as to what size to get. Thanks for any help you can
provide.
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
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| Subject: | Re: Taxi-Tests 601 HDS Stratus Subaru |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo J. Corbalis" <leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net>
You think you have troubles ? I wear size 15 ! It isn't often I have it
tougher than thou.
Best
Leo Corbalis
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim & Diane Shankland" <tshank@megsinet.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Taxi-Tests 601 HDS Stratus Subaru
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Tim & Diane Shankland
<tshank@megsinet.net>
>
> During a familiarization flight at Flypass a couple of years ago I was
> told the same thing about sliding my feet back and just have my toes on
> the pedal. What I did was lengthen my pedals by 1 1/2 inch so that the
> ball of my foot is on the hinge point. The next year at the builder
> dinner at Oshkosh I saw Chris Heintz, I put my foot next to his and told
> him that was the problem. He was a little confused by my remark until I
> told him that his size 8 or 9? used a lot smaller pedal than my size 12's.
>
> Tim Shankland
>
> Andrew SanClemente wrote:
>
> >--> Zenith-List message posted by: Andrew SanClemente
<ansancle@townisp.com>
> >
> >Bill,
> > I will give that a try, Im a size 12 and the day of my tests I
> >didn't have the best shoes on (too big). I was trying to use my heels
> >and keep my toes back with some success (gets tiring after a few
> >tests). I may purchase some of the "booties" used in car racing to
> >allow protection from fire but good feel. I also hope that with the
> >bolt issue solved, I won't be required to do as much "dancing" on the
> >pedals as I had to during the tests with that left wheel getting
> >pulled over.
> > Thanks!
> > Andy
> >
> >DO NOT ARCHIVE
> >
> >
> >On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 20:01:58 -0400, Bill Morelli wrote:
> >
> >
> >>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Morelli"
> >><billvt@together.net>
> >>
> >>Andrew,
> >>
> >>With regard to the rudder pedals.
> >>
> >>They do stink if you comapre them to say the pedals on an Cessna.
> >>
> >>What I found works for me (with size 11 feet) is that during
> >>takeoff roll and when landing, I place my feet on the pedals with
> >>the inside of my feet almost touchig. This keeps you away from the
> >>brakes. I have been flying like that for 375 hours. Once you get the
> >>feel for having your feet close together like that, it almost seems
> >>natural.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>Bill (N812BM - 601HDS - Tri - Stratus (RAM Heads) - Vermont -
> >>375.6 flight hrs. - 502 landings
> >>web site -> http://homepages.together.net/~billvt/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Taxi-Tests 601 HDS Stratus Subaru |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lance Gingell" <lgingell@matrix-logic.com>
You think you have troubles.... I wear a size 6, so I can't find shoes
anywhere, let alone reach the pedals at all!!! ;-)
Its going to be fun when I get to the pedal building part (I'm about to
start my 601XL fuselage), since I'll have to modify the pedals for my
short legs.
..just thought I'd share the other end of the problem!
..lance
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Leo J.
Corbalis
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Taxi-Tests 601 HDS Stratus Subaru
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo J. Corbalis"
--> <leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net>
You think you have troubles ? I wear size 15 ! It isn't often I have it
tougher than thou.
Best
Leo Corbalis
do not archive
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Roy Engelke" <royengelke@cox.net>
Can any of you soob guys out there tell me what your manufacturer (Stratus, NCI,
Ram, etc.) is listing as desireable and maximum allowable oil temps.
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| Subject: | Re: Matco axle assembly malfunction! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
--- LRM <lrm@isp.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "LRM" <lrm@isp.com>
>
> Mike, if you/NTSB prove that the axle was the cause of your problems,
> I
> would think Matco might have a liability issue.
>
> Larry N1345L
>
I dont think that will be a good idea...
First liability is what is killing aviation in USA.
Second, now every experimental airplane parts seller and builder use
all type of disclaimers to prevent this to happen.
Maybe all that he could get is an axle replacement... But I am sure
they (Matco) will do what is in their hand to improve or prevent future
problems.
Just a thought.
Saludos
Gary Gower
Do not archive.
"Men is the Architect of ist own destiny" - Local radio news man.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dirk Slabbert" <dirkslabbert@telkomsa.net>
'Evenin list,
So far I pulled all rivets by hand, but looking at fuse full of clecos sort of
makes one change your mind?!
Which is the best tool for this job?
Thanks,
Dirk.
701 SP
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Stratus suggests 260F on the oil and 230F on the water...I personally
would never run them that high.
Frank
Stratus with Ram heads 334 hours
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roy Engelke
Subject: Zenith-List: Oil Temperature
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Roy Engelke" <royengelke@cox.net>
Can any of you soob guys out there tell me what your manufacturer
(Stratus, NCI, Ram, etc.) is listing as desireable and maximum allowable
oil temps.
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum Tubing - 601XL |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
Scott,
Aluminum tube of the size needed is available at Aircraft Spruce, P/n
03-36300 @ 1.64/ft.
Ph 1-877-477-7823 Think I'd hang with the size required.
Larry
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Aluminum Tubing - 601XL
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin"
> <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
>
> Fellow 601XL Builders:
>
> Can you provide me with the actual O.D. of the aluminum tubing from your
> kit
> for 6-B-21-1? It's the aluminum tubing that forms the top of the rear
> fuselage. The drawings call for 3/4" X .058" tubing. My supplier tells
> me
> that 1/2" tubing has an O.D. of .84" which is bigger than 3/4".
>
> I'm a little confused as to what size to get. Thanks for any help you can
> provide.
>
> Scott Laughlin
> www.cooknwithgas.com
>
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>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Here in the USA (by your greeting I think you are in Europe) we have a
marvelous institution called www.Harborfrieght.com purveyor of cheap
(sometimes junk) Chinese tools.
The phumatic riveter therin will pull all the rivets at the touch of the
lever...but you'll have to have ZAC modify your rivet heads unless the
ones from your hand puller will fit...they may very well.
FRank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dirk
Slabbert
Subject: Zenith-List: Rivet puller?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dirk Slabbert"
--> <dirkslabbert@telkomsa.net>
'Evenin list,
So far I pulled all rivets by hand, but looking at fuse full of clecos
sort of makes one change your mind?! Which is the best tool for this
job? Thanks, Dirk. 701 SP
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Temperature |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
Roy,
The Engine Manual for the Stratus EA-81 shows 260-deg F as max, 120-deg F
min temps for oil.
Most of the time it doesn't reach over 198-Deg F. in my plane.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS @ www.macsmachine.com
Subject: Zenith-List: Oil Temperature
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Roy Engelke" <royengelke@cox.net>
>
> Can any of you soob guys out there tell me what your manufacturer
> (Stratus, NCI, Ram, etc.) is listing as desireable and maximum allowable
> oil temps.
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Temperature |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: bryanmmartin@comcast.net
Stratus lists the maximum temp as 260 F for the EA81.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
In phase I testing.
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-------------- Original message --------------
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Roy Engelke"
>
> Can any of you soob guys out there tell me what your manufacturer (Stratus, NCI,
> Ram, etc.) is listing as desireable and maximum allowable oil temps.
>
>
>
>
>
>
Stratus lists the maximum temp as 260 F for the EA81.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
In phase I testing.
do not archive
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-- Zenith-List message posted by: "Roy Engelke" <ROYENGELKE@COX.NET>
Can any of you soob guys out there tell me what your manufacturer (Stratus, NCI,
Ram, etc.) is listing as desireable and maximum allowable oil temps.
===============
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| Subject: | Re: Rivet puller? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: bryanmmartin@comcast.net
I used the cheap Harbor Freight rivet puller. It has lasted long enough to finish
the plane and still works.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
In phase I testing.
do not archive
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dirk Slabbert"
>
> 'Evenin list,
> So far I pulled all rivets by hand, but looking at fuse full of clecos sort of
> makes one change your mind?!
> Which is the best tool for this job?
> Thanks,
> Dirk.
I used the cheap Harbor Freight rivet puller. It has lasted long enough to finish
the plane and still works.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
In phase I testing.
do not archive
-------------- Original message --------------
-- Zenith-List message posted by: "Dirk Slabbert" <DIRKSLABBERT@TELKOMSA.NET>
'Evenin list,
So far I pulled all rivets by hand, but looking at fuse full of clecos sort of
makes one change your mind?!
Which is the best tool for this job?
Thanks,
Dirk.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: bryanmmartin@comcast.net
I modified my own riveter heads, it's not too difficult. Check the archives for
the procedure.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
In phase I testing.
do not archive
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> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
>
> The phumatic riveter therin will pull all the rivets at the touch of the
> lever...but you'll have to have ZAC modify your rivet heads unless the
> ones from your hand puller will fit...they may very well.
>
> FRank
I modified my own riveter heads, it's not too difficult. Check the archives for
the procedure.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
In phase I testing.
do not archive
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-- Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
<FRANK.HINDE@HP.COM>
The phumatic riveter therin will pull all the rivets at the touch of the
lever...but you'll have to have ZAC modify your rivet heads unless the
ones from your hand puller will fit...they may very well.
FRank
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum Tubing - 601XL |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Monty Graves <mgraves@usmo.com>
The problem is the supplier or the person working there. 6061 T-6 alum
tubing 3/4inch X .058 thick wall is 3/4 inch OD. What the guy at the
supplier quoted is normal water pipe dimensions, where the Inside Diameter
is the normal number.
Try Wicks, Air Craft Spruce, or Air parts Inc.
Or Shapiro Supply at www.shapirosupply.com
Monty
At 03:15 PM 10/11/04 +0000, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
>
>Fellow 601XL Builders:
>
>Can you provide me with the actual O.D. of the aluminum tubing from your kit
>for 6-B-21-1? It's the aluminum tubing that forms the top of the rear
>fuselage. The drawings call for 3/4" X .058" tubing. My supplier tells me
>that 1/2" tubing has an O.D. of .84" which is bigger than 3/4".
>
>I'm a little confused as to what size to get. Thanks for any help you can
>provide.
>
>Scott Laughlin
>www.cooknwithgas.com
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rivet puller? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Aaron" <agustafson@chartermi.net>
The question was "what is the [best] tool"
IMHO it is a Huck riveter
Aaron
>So far I pulled all rivets by hand, but---
>Which is the
>([- best-]) tool for this
>job? Thanks, Dirk.
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| Subject: | Mating cabin floor, firewall, and rear fuselage question. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mark Stauffer" <mark.stauffer@comcast.net>
To all the 601XL builders out there.
Today I mated all three parts together and made the templates needed to move
forward. I finally got the firewall set to 77 degrees (what a frustrating
job that was by myself) and the upper longerons in place. My problem is that
I had to shim the front of the cabin floor (under the firewall) to get the
upper longerons level. I used the plywood templates listed on drawing 6B-14
that is supposed to bring the floor to 3 degrees. I had to shim those
another 13mm (total of 63mm vertical distance) to get the upper longerons to
level out, but now it looks as though the angle is about 3.5 degrees. (I'm
using a "magnetic protractor" - Sears sells them as "angle finders") Did
anyone else have this problem? My bench is level, I've checked it literally
dozens of times. Also, the only place the cabin floor template actually
touches the bench is at the forward edge (under the firewall). I've got the
tail raised so that the rear upper longerons are level and the they're level
from side to side. I also had a heck of a time getting the gear channel
level fore/aft and side/side.
I'm just making sure I'm not missing something. I believe this is a very
critical point in building and don't want to screw it up. Any suggestions on
how you set your fuselage up will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Mark
Odenton, MD
601XL Tail finished, wings 95% finished, working on fuselage.
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| Subject: | 701 upper strut fitting torque |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <petes15515@msn.com>
>From: <petes15515@msn.com>
>Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: 701 upper strut fitting torque
>Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:07:30 -0400
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: <petes15515@msn.com>
>
>What torque are folks using for the three AN#-5A bolts/nuts which attach
>the front upper strut fitting to the strut angle / spar ? Does it matter as
>long as they are tight ?
>Peter in Canada. Tail done, wings 70%
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| Subject: | Re: Rivet puller? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
They are good enough (for the price). I used to buy the expensive ones
for my workers, lasted 5 years, now I buy chinese and last average of 3
years, a couple of them have already lasted 5 years, sometimes only a
year but at 50 bucks a piece... Sometimes with two of them broken I
can assemble one... Plain luck.
Is like cars, if you buy one assembled in Friday, will "live" in the
repair shop all its life :-)
An old mechanic used to explain this about bad cars (any brand could
happen).
Saludos
Gary Gower
Do not archive
--- bryanmmartin@comcast.net wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: bryanmmartin@comcast.net
>
> I used the cheap Harbor Freight rivet puller. It has lasted long
> enough to finish the plane and still works.
>
> --
> Bryan Martin
> N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
> In phase I testing.
> do not archive
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dirk Slabbert"
> >
> > 'Evenin list,
> > So far I pulled all rivets by hand, but looking at fuse full of
> clecos sort of
> > makes one change your mind?!
> > Which is the best tool for this job?
> > Thanks,
> > Dirk.
>
> I used the cheap Harbor Freight rivet puller. It has lasted long
> enough to finish the plane and still works.
>
> --
> Bryan Martin
> N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
> In phase I testing.
> do not archive
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
>
> -- Zenith-List message posted by: "Dirk Slabbert"
> <DIRKSLABBERT@TELKOMSA.NET>
>
> 'Evenin list,
> So far I pulled all rivets by hand, but looking at fuse full of
> clecos sort of
> makes one change your mind?!
> Which is the best tool for this job?
> Thanks,
> Dirk.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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