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1. 06:37 AM - Re: Paint prep tip (LRM)
2. 07:27 AM - Re: Paint prep tip (Bill Cardell)
3. 08:07 AM - Re: Paint prep tip (Gary A. Boothe)
4. 10:56 AM - Wheel pants installation? (Grant Corriveau)
5. 11:08 AM - Wheel pants installation - aha!... (Grant Corriveau)
6. 12:02 PM - Re: aileron hinges (Andrew SanClemente)
7. 12:29 PM - Re: Paint prep tip (Bill Cardell)
8. 01:12 PM - Re: Wheel pants installation - aha!... (Larry McFarland)
9. 01:30 PM - Mercury carburator balancer (Larry McFarland)
10. 02:56 PM - Re: Mercury carburator balancer (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
11. 03:53 PM - Re: aileron hinges (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
12. 04:34 PM - aileron hinges (chrisoz)
13. 04:49 PM - Rivet puller? (caspainhower@aep.com)
14. 04:54 PM - Re: aileron hinges (cgalley)
15. 04:54 PM - Re: Paint prep tip (Gary A. Boothe)
16. 05:25 PM - auto oil w/auto gas (caspainhower@aep.com)
17. 11:25 PM - unacceptable registration. was:Re: aileron hinges (xl)
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| Subject: | Re: Paint prep tip |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "LRM" <lrm@isp.com>
Hey Jeff, you need to use prepsol before sanding or scotchbriting, then
prepsol again. Sanding a surface before cleaning can embed the
contaminates. I usually use a scrub brush with Ajax or comet, lots of
rinsing, then sand, then prepsol, then tack. I like you DA idea, sure
would cut down the work load. Larry, N1345L
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Paden" <jeffpaden@madbbs.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Paint prep tip
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff Paden" <jeffpaden@madbbs.com>
>
> I just finished getting my aircraft ready to paint and picked up a little
> time saver that I think the rest of you may want to try.
> To make sure the primer has a good surface to grab hold of we cut the red
> scotchbrite pads in half and stuck them to the bottom of our DA sanders.
> This made quick easy work out of prepping the entire aircraft. Then we
> wiped the entire aircraft with a surface cleaner like prepsol. The primer
> looks VERY nice and we are now ready to begin our paint job!
>
> Jeff Paden
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bill Cardell <bill@flyinmiata.com>
One word of warning about using scotchbrites. Be ABSOLUTELY sure you have
every orifice on your engine sealed off, as well as gauges or anything that
moves. Scotchbrite uses aluminum oxide, which eats engine internals like you
can't imagine. Don't ask me how I know.
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| Subject: | Re: Paint prep tip |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary A. Boothe" <gboothe@calply.com>
How do you know?
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From: "Bill Cardell" <bill@flyinmiata.com>
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Paint prep tip
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bill Cardell <bill@flyinmiata.com>
>
>
> One word of warning about using scotchbrites. Be ABSOLUTELY sure you have
> every orifice on your engine sealed off, as well as gauges or anything
> that
> moves. Scotchbrite uses aluminum oxide, which eats engine internals like
> you
> can't imagine. Don't ask me how I know.
>
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| Subject: | Wheel pants installation? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
I'm about to install my wheel pants on my 601HDS (finally). I have a kit
(from Czech Aircraft Works as I recall) - but I don't think I ever had (or
maybe I just lost) the instructions about how to install them...
My kit comprises the three fairings - which I presume I have to cut into
front and back halves? I have 6 brakets - one for each side of the wheel
fork? I have 24 Dzus fasteners -- 4 on each side of each wheel fairing?
Then I also have the kind of nylon-lock nuts that are riveted in place and
stay put when the bolts are inserted or removed... Do I use these to install
the brakets onto the wheel forks? This is what I'm confused about -- if I
want to install these with rivets, then the rivets that were supplied are
certainly not long enough to go all the way through the gear fork... But
maybe that's okay because these aren't really structural -- ? Or maybe they
can just be installed like normal nuts without riveting... but then why were
this type included...?
I hope I haven't completely lost you with this 'explanation'!!! Thanks for
any help or sketches anyone might provide
--
Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
grantc@ca.inter.net
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| Subject: | Wheel pants installation - aha!... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
...
I hope I haven't completely lost you with this 'explanation'!!! Thanks for
any help or sketches anyone might provide
...
In sketching out the explanation, I think I've solved my own 'problem'! The
nuts dont rivet to the wheel fork - they rivet to the braket!! That just
makes them easier to install/remove...?
So I will still have to drill a hole for each of these bolts through the
weel forks...
So -- if you've followed my description so far -- does it make sense?
THANKS again,
--
Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Andrew SanClemente <ansancle@townisp.com>
Frank,
Waiting for an updated registration to get my inspection. On my
first iteration I put "Zenith 601HDS", forgot the "CH" and my DARs
boss noticed and won't overlook it. Waiting for my modified
registration from OK City and then it should take to the air!
Paperwork - ARGGG!!!
I will wait until its flying to make any change like that.
-Andy
DO NOT ARCHIVE
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:26:04 -0700, Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)
wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
><frank.hinde@hp.com>
>
>I have piano hinges but I understand that at flying spped the
control
>forces become quite light. If you are ready to fly don't mess with
>the
>hinges...Fly it first and see.
>
>Come Andrew its time to strap yourself in and GO!.....:)
>
>The hinges are useful if ever you have to get the LE tanks
>out....pull
>the pin, put the 2*4 behind the rear spar (I cut a slot with a
>skillsaw
>to go over the hinge) and attatch the straps.
>
>Beyond that tey have no use.
>
>Frank
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
>SanClemente
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: aileron hinges
>
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Andrew SanClemente
>--> <ansancle@townisp.com>
>
>Chris,
>do you have a part number for the piano hinge you used out of say
>ACS or Wicks (or a spec for what you used)?
>I am seriously considering it since my elevator and rudder forces
>are
>very light but even small aileron deflections require too much
>effort
>(on the ground at least).
>
>To remove them for transport do you pull the pin out of the hinge?
>
>Thanks!
>Andy
>
>
>On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:02:25 +0800, chrisoz wrote:
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "chrisoz" <chrisoz@bmail.com.au>
>>
>>
>>Subject: aileron hinges
>>
>>
>>Hello Andy,
>>
>>I was wondering the same thing and put hinges on the ailerons of my
>>third Zodiac, a very customized XL.
>>Compared to my previous HDs it was a huge difference, you can
>>actually move
>>and fly the plane with two fingers, no more wresteling with the
>>controls.
>>Plus it is very convenient to be able to take the ailerons off for
>>transport
>>of the wings, i.e. on a roof rack.
>>I can wholeheartedly recommend it!
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Chris from downunder
>>
>>>>I would like to hear some comments on how much changing to the
>>>>pinned-hinge design lightens the aileron feel.
>>>>
>>>>I would also like to know if anyone has experimented with aileron
>>>>spades for the same purpose. These would help balance the load
>>>>both
>>>>mechanically and aerodynamically. I'm thinking I could adjust
the
>>>>spade
>>>>size, mass and location pretty easily to tune in the desired
>>>>feel.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Andy Elliott
>>>>Lycoming owner, Corvair 601XL wannabe!
>>>
>>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bill Cardell <bill@flyinmiata.com>
Because a cylinder head guy I was using used aluminum oxide to blast the
intake runners. Lodged in the metal, time released and ate the rings, wrist
pins, etc. The sharp crystals lodge in the soft stuff and grind away the
hard stuff. Cost me something like fourteen engines.slow learner I guess. If
you do a websearch, you'll find some commentary from Cadillac guys about
scotch brites doing the same. A friend of mine at Cosworth says you don't
want the stuff in the same building as an engine...
do not archive.
Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad)
bill@flyinmiata.com
Flyin' Miata
1-800-359-6957 (sales only)
970-242-3800 (tech support)
http://flyinmiata.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary A. Boothe [mailto:gboothe@calply.com]
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Paint prep tip
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary A. Boothe" <gboothe@calply.com>
How do you know?
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| Subject: | Re: Wheel pants installation - aha!... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
Grant,
I recieved the same package of hardware as you and found the attaching
brackets unacceptable for ease of assembly. I made brackets that
attach to the fork and bracket angles that attach to the wheel pants and
find they go on and off much easier than the "kit" from ZAC. You might
want to look at what I did at the bottom of the Gear page on my website.
I removed the pants again in about 10 minutes this morning, getting ready
for winter and paint hopefully.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS @ www.macsmachine.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Grant Corriveau" <grantc@ca.inter.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Wheel pants installation - aha!...
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
>
> ...
> I hope I haven't completely lost you with this 'explanation'!!! Thanks
> for
> any help or sketches anyone might provide
> ...
>
> In sketching out the explanation, I think I've solved my own 'problem'!
> The
> nuts dont rivet to the wheel fork - they rivet to the braket!! That just
> makes them easier to install/remove...?
>
> So I will still have to drill a hole for each of these bolts through the
> weel forks...
>
> So -- if you've followed my description so far -- does it make sense?
>
> THANKS again,
>
> --
> Grant Corriveau
> C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Mercury carburator balancer |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
Hi guys,
I recently purchased a carb balancing kit from Bing that was
priced right, but somehow missed the mention of mercury, not darts, as
the element that is sucked up a pair of tubes to show the relative
vacuum in the carbs. A caution was included that if you rev the engine too far
mercury could be injested into the engine which could be hazardous to
your engine and your health. Worse, if you spill any of the mercury
on your plane, it will begin an episode of corrosion that doesn't stop.
Anyway, I repackaged it and exchanged it for an electronic device that does
the same thing for another $30. Bing folks are good people to deal with
but didn't have any idea that mercury has the ability to unravel aluminum
aircraft faster than anything. There's a law on the books that forbids
casual transport of mercury on any commercial aircraft. Recent Popular
Science article refreshed the memory on this one.
If you must fly, fly safe.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS @ www.macsmachine.com
(flying unrestricted at last!)
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| Subject: | Mercury carburator balancer |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Why couldn't you make your own balancer using water?
Here is the theory, Mercury is about 13.5 times as dense as water and a
perfect vacuum is about 29" mercury so 29*13.5....i.e a very long column
if you wanted to measure the total pressure of a vacuum.
The thing is you don't want to do that when balancing carbs.....In fact
you want to balance them to within about 1" of water...I got mine to
about 0.25" water using a differential pressure sensor.
So if you connect one of your balance tube to inlet manifold connection
(the 1/8th connection just ahead of the carb) and the other end to the
other carb....Make it so the difference in level can measure a foot or
more and in theory...it should work?
I wonder if the timing of the suction pulses will jerk the level around
too much, but hey for zero cost its worth a try?
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
McFarland
Subject: Zenith-List: Mercury carburator balancer
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland"
--> <larrymc@qconline.com>
Hi guys,
I recently purchased a carb balancing kit from Bing that was priced
right, but somehow missed the mention of mercury, not darts, as the
element that is sucked up a pair of tubes to show the relative vacuum in
the carbs. A caution was included that if you rev the engine too far
mercury could be injested into the engine which could be hazardous to
your engine and your health. Worse, if you spill any of the mercury on
your plane, it will begin an episode of corrosion that doesn't stop.
Anyway, I repackaged it and exchanged it for an electronic device that
does the same thing for another $30. Bing folks are good people to deal
with but didn't have any idea that mercury has the ability to unravel
aluminum aircraft faster than anything. There's a law on the books that
forbids casual transport of mercury on any commercial aircraft. Recent
Popular Science article refreshed the memory on this one.
If you must fly, fly safe.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS @ www.macsmachine.com
(flying unrestricted at last!)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Shame that hi speed taxi tests might result in accidental lift off and
flight round the pattern.....:)
Frank
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
SanClemente
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: aileron hinges
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Andrew SanClemente
--> <ansancle@townisp.com>
Frank,
Waiting for an updated registration to get my inspection. On my
first iteration I put "Zenith 601HDS", forgot the "CH" and my DARs
boss noticed and won't overlook it. Waiting for my modified
registration from OK City and then it should take to the air! Paperwork
- ARGGG!!!
I will wait until its flying to make any change like that.
-Andy
DO NOT ARCHIVE
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:26:04 -0700, Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)
wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
><frank.hinde@hp.com>
>
>I have piano hinges but I understand that at flying spped the
control
>forces become quite light. If you are ready to fly don't mess with the
>hinges...Fly it first and see.
>
>Come Andrew its time to strap yourself in and GO!.....:)
>
>The hinges are useful if ever you have to get the LE tanks out....pull
>the pin, put the 2*4 behind the rear spar (I cut a slot with a
>skillsaw
>to go over the hinge) and attatch the straps.
>
>Beyond that tey have no use.
>
>Frank
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
>SanClemente
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: aileron hinges
>
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Andrew SanClemente
>--> <ansancle@townisp.com>
>
>Chris,
>do you have a part number for the piano hinge you used out of say ACS
>or Wicks (or a spec for what you used)? I am seriously considering it
>since my elevator and rudder forces are
>very light but even small aileron deflections require too much
>effort
>(on the ground at least).
>
>To remove them for transport do you pull the pin out of the hinge?
>
>Thanks!
>Andy
>
>
>On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:02:25 +0800, chrisoz wrote:
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "chrisoz" <chrisoz@bmail.com.au>
>>
>>
>>Subject: aileron hinges
>>
>>
>>Hello Andy,
>>
>>I was wondering the same thing and put hinges on the ailerons of my
>>third Zodiac, a very customized XL. Compared to my previous HDs it
>>was a huge difference, you can actually move
>>and fly the plane with two fingers, no more wresteling with the
>>controls.
>>Plus it is very convenient to be able to take the ailerons off for
>>transport
>>of the wings, i.e. on a roof rack.
>>I can wholeheartedly recommend it!
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Chris from downunder
>>
>>>>I would like to hear some comments on how much changing to the
>>>>pinned-hinge design lightens the aileron feel.
>>>>
>>>>I would also like to know if anyone has experimented with aileron
>>>>spades for the same purpose. These would help balance the load both
>>>>mechanically and aerodynamically. I'm thinking I could adjust
the
>>>>spade
>>>>size, mass and location pretty easily to tune in the desired feel.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Andy Elliott
>>>>Lycoming owner, Corvair 601XL wannabe!
>>>
>>
>>
>>_-
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>>>>===
>>_-
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>>>>===
>>_-
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>>>>===
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>>====================================================================
>>>>===
>>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "chrisoz" <chrisoz@bmail.com.au>
Hello Andy,
the ACS no is MS20257P5, I choose the wider ones as it gives better edge
distance.
The others are right, the forces in regular flight do not make a lot of
difference as you hardly ever wack the plane around that much, but as you
come in to land, during the flare, in a crosswind, that is where it is
really nice.
You only need two fingers to flare, but an arm full to roll in that
situation with the standard setup, and while you get used to it it is not
perfect.
Besides, it feels nice to move the ailerons without resistance to the stop
during preflight, and not just run into the exponential curve of the bending
sheet.
And yes, I always love to point out the hingeless design to others, as it is
a stroke of genius, simple and durable.
Just depends on what you want :-)
Chris from Oz
> Chris,
> do you have a part number for the piano hinge you used out of say
> ACS or Wicks (or a spec for what you used)?
> I am seriously considering it since my elevator and rudder forces are
> very light but even small aileron deflections require too much effort
> (on the ground at least).
>
> To remove them for transport do you pull the pin out of the hinge?
>
> Thanks!
> Andy
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|July 24, 2002) at 10/13/2004 07:49:21 PM
--> Zenith-List message posted by: caspainhower@aep.com
Just another opinion. I started with the Zenith supplied puller as well
and noted that it bounces and leaves a half moon mark as well. It also
bleeds air constantly causing the air compressor to cycle. When it died
after one wing I picked up a cheap Harbor Freight puller and couldn't be
happier. It's lighter, doesn't bleed air and does an excellent job
pulling. I completed the second wing and 1/2 the fuse so far and would
certainly recommend it. The Zenith info I got with my original order has
the description of how to modify the nose pieces too, but I was able to use
the old pieces.
Craig S.
N601XS, 601XL 0-235 lyc, tail, wings and ~1/2 fuse complete.
>I am using the Zenith puller, and find that if I regulate the pressure to
>about 45lbs, the puller won't bounce too much. Best pressure depends on
the
>size of rivets, thickness of parts, etc.
Kent
>I bought a nice air compressor and bought Zenith's rivet puller. I used
>it for one wing and tucked it all under the work bench. Never used it
>again. Dragging the hose around and listening to the compressor run,
>.......plus the riveter tends to bounce when it fires resulting in a
>dimple or a half moon around the rivet head. I hand pulled the balance
>of the 6000.
Hal Rozema
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| Subject: | Re: aileron hinges |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
That is BS. You can call the airplane and model ANYTHING you want. You are
the manufacturer. If you want to give some credit to the designer then
that's o.k. too. BUT to hold up your paperwork is wrong.
Cy Galley
EAA Safety Programs Editor
Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew SanClemente" <ansancle@townisp.com>
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: aileron hinges
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Andrew SanClemente
<ansancle@townisp.com>
>
> Frank,
> Waiting for an updated registration to get my inspection. On my
> first iteration I put "Zenith 601HDS", forgot the "CH" and my DARs
> boss noticed and won't overlook it. Waiting for my modified
> registration from OK City and then it should take to the air!
> Paperwork - ARGGG!!!
>
> I will wait until its flying to make any change like that.
>
> -Andy
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
> On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:26:04 -0700, Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)
> wrote:
> >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
> ><frank.hinde@hp.com>
> >
> >I have piano hinges but I understand that at flying spped the
> control
> >forces become quite light. If you are ready to fly don't mess with
> >the
> >hinges...Fly it first and see.
> >
> >Come Andrew its time to strap yourself in and GO!.....:)
> >
> >The hinges are useful if ever you have to get the LE tanks
> >out....pull
> >the pin, put the 2*4 behind the rear spar (I cut a slot with a
> >skillsaw
> >to go over the hinge) and attatch the straps.
> >
> >Beyond that tey have no use.
> >
> >Frank
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
> >SanClemente
> >To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: aileron hinges
> >
> >
> >--> Zenith-List message posted by: Andrew SanClemente
> >--> <ansancle@townisp.com>
> >
> >Chris,
> >do you have a part number for the piano hinge you used out of say
> >ACS or Wicks (or a spec for what you used)?
> >I am seriously considering it since my elevator and rudder forces
> >are
> >very light but even small aileron deflections require too much
> >effort
> >(on the ground at least).
> >
> >To remove them for transport do you pull the pin out of the hinge?
> >
> >Thanks!
> >Andy
> >
> >
> >On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 19:02:25 +0800, chrisoz wrote:
> >>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "chrisoz" <chrisoz@bmail.com.au>
> >>
> >>
> >>Subject: aileron hinges
> >>
> >>
> >>Hello Andy,
> >>
> >>I was wondering the same thing and put hinges on the ailerons of my
> >>third Zodiac, a very customized XL.
> >>Compared to my previous HDs it was a huge difference, you can
> >>actually move
> >>and fly the plane with two fingers, no more wresteling with the
> >>controls.
> >>Plus it is very convenient to be able to take the ailerons off for
> >>transport
> >>of the wings, i.e. on a roof rack.
> >>I can wholeheartedly recommend it!
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>
> >>Chris from downunder
> >>
> >>>>I would like to hear some comments on how much changing to the
> >>>>pinned-hinge design lightens the aileron feel.
> >>>>
> >>>>I would also like to know if anyone has experimented with aileron
> >>>>spades for the same purpose. These would help balance the load
> >>>>both
> >>>>mechanically and aerodynamically. I'm thinking I could adjust
> the
> >>>>spade
> >>>>size, mass and location pretty easily to tune in the desired
> >>>>feel.
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks,
> >>>>Andy Elliott
> >>>>Lycoming owner, Corvair 601XL wannabe!
> >>>
> >>
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| Subject: | Re: Paint prep tip |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary A. Boothe" <gboothe@calply.com>
Thanks, Bill. I had to ask - you piqued my curiosity.
Gary Boothe
WW Corvair Power - 601
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Cardell" <bill@flyinmiata.com>
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Paint prep tip
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bill Cardell <bill@flyinmiata.com>
>
> Because a cylinder head guy I was using used aluminum oxide to blast the
> intake runners. Lodged in the metal, time released and ate the rings,
> wrist
> pins, etc. The sharp crystals lodge in the soft stuff and grind away the
> hard stuff. Cost me something like fourteen engines.slow learner I guess.
> If
> you do a websearch, you'll find some commentary from Cadillac guys about
> scotch brites doing the same. A friend of mine at Cosworth says you don't
> want the stuff in the same building as an engine...
>
> do not archive.
>
> Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad)
> bill@flyinmiata.com
> Flyin' Miata
> 1-800-359-6957 (sales only)
> 970-242-3800 (tech support)
> http://flyinmiata.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary A. Boothe [mailto:gboothe@calply.com]
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Paint prep tip
>
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary A. Boothe" <gboothe@calply.com>
>
> How do you know?
>
>
>
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| Subject: | auto oil w/auto gas |
|July 24, 2002) at 10/13/2004 08:25:29 PM
--> Zenith-List message posted by: caspainhower@aep.com
I am running an 0-300 Continental ('65 C-172) on auto gas, it has seen
hundreds of hours using mogas, with the occasion 100LL to help with valve
seat and guide wear. The engine has between 1600 - 1700 hrs since its last
major and runs flawlessly. I have read more negatives about lead
contamination from 100LL than about substantiated problems from using
mogas. There are thousands of certified aircraft STC'd for mogas. The only
thing I don't do is use gas with alcohol as it is not recommended. I
currently use Aeroshell and wouldn't consider an automotive oil, if for no
other reason than it being an aircooled engine. My 0-235 will burn mainly
mogas after some break-in time.
Craig S.
601 XL 0-234
Another bit of information he passed on was that the formulation of
aviation
oils and the use of auto gas was a problem area. The additives in aviation
oil are not necessarily compatible with the additives in car gas and that
the by-products created by burning the car gas would break down the
aviation
oil before the recommended 25 hour oil change intervals. He didn't go so
far as to recommend using auto oils in airplane engines burning auto gas
(did I mention he worked for AeroShell?!), but I doubt there is much risk
in
doing that considering the high performance, high heat, high rpm engines in
cars these days - the oil they use is likely durable enough to withstand
aircraft engine stresses (primarily talking about Lyc's and Conty's - not
necessarily auto engine conversions).
Anyone out there running an A-65, 0-200 or 0-235 on auto gas? What oil are
you using and do you have anything to share?
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| Subject: | Re: aileron hinges |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: xl <xl@prosody.org>
Maybe BS but it's real. It happened to me too.
I put CH601XL on the registration form
but I put 601XL on one of the other forms in the pile because
I wanted that form to match the bill of sale.
(fewer forms and online action make sense to me....)
The FAA put 601XL on the registration certificate - wrong.
The DAR and FAA didn't like that. I was ready to fly Dec 15.
It took until April to get the new registration. I flew Apr 9.
My plane sat for almost 4 months collecting water in the fuel
tanks before I could fly it - another story :)
Bummer. BTW, the FAA in Oklahoma City agreed that I could call
it anything that I wanted - except something like a Boeing 747.
She asked why I wanted a new registration. I told her that I didn't....
She told me to get a new inspector or go to a different FAA
office. But once I was in the system I felt that I couldn't
make a fuss without risk. I felt that I was at the mercy of
the DAR and FAA. I didn't feel that I had the power to protest.
Oh yeah, it would have taken me longer to get the new registration
if I hadn't called Oklahoma City several times and begged.
Joe E
N633Z @ BFI
125 hours
archive this - people need to know
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, cgalley wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
> That is BS. You can call the airplane and model ANYTHING you want. You are
> the manufacturer. If you want to give some credit to the designer then
> that's o.k. too. BUT to hold up your paperwork is wrong.
> Cy Galley
> EAA Safety Programs Editor
> Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew SanClemente" <ansancle@townisp.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: aileron hinges
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Andrew SanClemente
> <ansancle@townisp.com>
> > Frank,
> > Waiting for an updated registration to get my inspection. On my
> > first iteration I put "Zenith 601HDS", forgot the "CH" and my DARs
> > boss noticed and won't overlook it. Waiting for my modified
> > registration from OK City and then it should take to the air!
> > Paperwork - ARGGG!!!
> >
> > I will wait until its flying to make any change like that.
> > -Andy
>
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