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1. 04:22 AM - Re: O-360 on mogas for my CH801 (Benford2@aol.com)
2. 06:14 AM - Electric Pre-heaters (charles.long@gm.com)
3. 08:15 AM - Re: Engine heaters for winter (Frank Jones)
4. 08:17 AM - Re: Engine heaters for winter (Larry Landucci)
5. 08:30 AM - Re: O-360 on mogas for my CH801 (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
6. 08:39 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 19 Msgs - 10/18/04 (Grant Corriveau)
7. 08:41 AM - 801 on mo-gas (Keystone Engineering LLC)
8. 11:32 AM - SLA regs ()
9. 12:11 PM - Re: Electric Pre-heaters (cgalley)
10. 12:20 PM - Re: SLA regs (cgalley)
11. 12:45 PM - Re: SLA regs (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
12. 12:48 PM - Re: Electric Pre-heaters (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
13. 02:13 PM - Fly-In (John Williamson)
14. 02:27 PM - Looking for a part (gpjann@juno.com)
15. 02:31 PM - Re: Jeff Padden (EMAproducts@aol.com)
16. 06:34 PM - Re: 801 on mo-gas (Gary Craze)
17. 08:29 PM - Re: 601HDS forms, jigs and molds (Bob Reinero)
18. 08:45 PM - Re: Work Table (JERICKSON03E@aol.com)
19. 08:51 PM - Re: 801 on mo-gas (F22clear@aol.com)
20. 09:15 PM - Re: CH 200 (Jim and Lucy)
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| Subject: | Re: O-360 on mogas for my CH801 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
In a message dated 10/18/2004 10:31:37 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
garycraze@hotmail.com writes:
>
> Hi all, I'll be using an O-360 in the CH801 I'm building.
>
> With the way fuel prices keep rising, I'm interested in any feedback on
> 360's with mogas. I had an STC on my Cessna 170 for mogas, and was
> extremely pleased with the performance, but I don't have any knowledge
> on a 360. I've heard of a few running "de-rated" to 170hp with mogas.
>
> Also, I'd like to say that while I appreciate the feedback, I'd like to
> keep the topic to experiences with mogas on a O-360, and not a diatribe
> on why you should / should not use mogas in an airplane.
>
> Many thanks in advance,
> Gary Craze
> Houston, TX
> N801GC (reserved)
>
It's an experimental Gary. All ya got to do is set the ignition timing back a
few degrees to prevent detonation and fly. We are not bound by certefied
specs. An O -360 is sooo overbuilt and under utilized that it will perform
good for you at. I would be willing to bet that even at 25 degrees or whatever
that stock timing is it would not detonate using 91 octane auto fuel.
Ben Haas N801BH
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| Subject: | Electric Pre-heaters |
20, 2004) at 10/19/2004 09:13:21 AM,
Serialize complete at 10/19/2004 09:13:21 AM
--> Zenith-List message posted by: charles.long@gm.com
The Jabiru website shows pictures of an electric pre-heater like
the one you've described. Great idea. I'm building one just like the
pictures. Parts are costing me about $40. Should only take only a few
hours to put together and it will be customized to fit the bottom of my
cowl. Gives peace of mind that you're not hurting your engine on those
cold mornings.
http://www.usjabiru.com/Tech%20Tips.htm#Pre%20Heating%20in%20Very%20Cold%20Weather
Time: 12:53:07 PM PST US
From: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Engine heaters for winter
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland"
<larrymc@qconline.com>
Hi guys,
I've been looking at portable electric coil and fan
heaters. These are 850 to 1500 W units that are all metal and have
a thermostat and two-speed fan.
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| Subject: | Engine heaters for winter |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Frank Jones" <fjones@sympatico.ca>
For those with the Rotax, there are in-line liquid heaters available.
Mine works great, even at -25C.
Frank Jones - 601XL
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| Subject: | Re: Engine heaters for winter |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry Landucci <lllanducci@tds.net>
E-Z Heat Inc from Chetek, Wisconsin supplies a very nice
thermostatically controlled convection/induction heater that is very
efficient and consumes only 300 watts. Unfortunately, I think they are
only available for Continental and Lycoming engines. Check the
following website:
www.e-zheat.com/
--Larry Landucci CH801, N801LL
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| Subject: | O-360 on mogas for my CH801 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Hello Gary,
Here is a response I got from Dave Rogers at Superior engines on that
very question I posed yesterday on their experimental version of their
O360.
Dear Frank,
It is nice to hear from you again. About 25 years ago both Superior and
Lycoming (TCM also) changed valve seat material to a harder alloy. This
is back when the first discussions started about the availability of
avgas in the future and how much lead would be allowed in avgas. The
current seats that Superior uses do not have a problem with unleaded
mogas and yes, the 3 year warranty on the XP-360 does cover the use of
unleaded mogas. The only thing that applies to the use of mogas and our
warranty is if there is some contamination in the mogas that effects the
engine. The same would be true for avgas that is contaminated.
Warranty applies to defects in material and workmanship. If it breaks
for some other reason it might not be covered. Remember, our Vantage
O/IO-360 Engine was certified this year by the FAA for 91 octane mogas
and that engine has the same valve seats as our XP-360. Best Regards,
Dave Rogers
Technical Sales
Superior
Seems to me if you engine is not older than 25 years you should be
OK...Either way is seems the harder seats are available should yours
wear prematurely.
Frank
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Craze
Subject: Zenith-List: O-360 on mogas for my CH801
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary Craze" <garycraze@hotmail.com>
Hi all, I'll be using an O-360 in the CH801 I'm building.
With the way fuel prices keep rising, I'm interested in any feedback on
360's with mogas. I had an STC on my Cessna 170 for mogas, and was
extremely pleased with the performance, but I don't have any knowledge
on a 360. I've heard of a few running "de-rated" to 170hp with mogas.
Also, I'd like to say that while I appreciate the feedback, I'd like to
keep the topic to experiences with mogas on a O-360, and not a diatribe
on why you should / should not use mogas in an airplane.
Many thanks in advance,
Gary Craze
Houston, TX
N801GC (reserved)
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 19 Msgs - 10/18/04 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
> Anyone have difficulty with these inside a hangar to keep an
> engine oil pan warm with temps that seldom go below zero?
>
>
> Larry McFarland - 601HDS
I've seen these either temporarily or permanantly installed beneath engine
cowlings for winter overnight warming. fwiw they do the trick if it's not
too cold, in which case more drastic heating is needed, such as a "Herman
Nelson" preheater etc...
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Keystone Engineering LLC <keystone@gci.net>
Gary
I'm running mine on 100 LL right now because I got a good price on my last batch of fuel. I ran super unleaded for the much of my first 60 hrs with no problems. I was not concerned because if it was a certified plane I could get an STC from Peterson to run super unleaded in my O-360A4J. http://www.webworksltd.com/autofuelstc/pa/ApprovedEngines.html In general in Alaska it does not get hot enough to worry about vapor lock. A hot day is in the high 70's. I did run 100LL occasionally just to lead up the valves like they say you should.
Bill Wilcox
N801BW
Valdez, AK
Time: 09:30:47 PM PST US
From: "Gary Craze" <garycraze@hotmail.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: O-360 on mogas for my CH801
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary Craze" <garycraze@hotmail.com>
Hi all, I'll be using an O-360 in the CH801 I'm building.
With the way fuel prices keep rising, I'm interested in any feedback on
360's with mogas. I had an STC on my Cessna 170 for mogas, and was
extremely pleased with the performance, but I don't have any knowledge
on a 360. I've heard of a few running "de-rated" to 170hp with mogas.
Also, I'd like to say that while I appreciate the feedback, I'd like to
keep the topic to experiences with mogas on a O-360, and not a diatribe
on why you should / should not use mogas in an airplane.
Many thanks in advance,
Gary Craze
Houston, TX
N801GC (reserved)
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Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:30:59 -0500
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <PAULROD36@msn.com>
If you think the FAA is doing us a favor, or making it easier, in regard to
class III physicals, think again. The new rule in physicals is, "You must have
one to not need one". After having gone through all the hoops to get two consecutive
special issuances, both of which were done in their own sweet time (like
5 months) I put in for a third with no change to my cardiac condition. This
time, with what can only be regarded as incredible alacrity, they refused to
renew in only 10 working days. I will now have to put in for reconsideration,
put together a package trying to convince them that I'm safe to fly, and hope
for a lucky break.
My advice is, if you have any sort of problem, let your physical lapse and
say not another word to them. It is disheartening to know that someone who NEVER
took a physical can have a serious heart attack tomorrow, partially recover,
and fly with whatever diminished capability, while those of us who try to play
by the rules, get screwed. If you think this is an isolated case, see this
month's SportPilot, and read Bill Hagan's letter on Page 6.
That the FAA would put out the SLA physical rule as written, is either a blatantly
cynical abuse of bureaucratic power, or a most incredible show of ineptness.
Any organization that can parse 10 pounds of regulations to nail you on
some infinitesimal sub-sub-subparagraph surely could put together one simple
concept without stumbling all over itself. If they really wanted to.
I think we need to raise holy hell with them.
OK, I've had my say, and I'm now on the FAA's bad guy list. It's up to them to
prove me wrong.
Paul Rodriguez
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Electric Pre-heaters |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
For duct work, get an expanding length all alumnum dryer vent hose. They
self hold their position. and they are fireproof. One can get several
diameter to fit what ever out let and inlet you may have. I squared mine
off to enter a square hole.
Cy Galley - Chair,
AirVenture Emergency Aircraft Repair
A Service Project of Chapter 75
EAA Safety Programs Editor - TC
EAA Sport Pilot
----- Original Message -----
From: <charles.long@gm.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Electric Pre-heaters
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: charles.long@gm.com
>
> The Jabiru website shows pictures of an electric pre-heater like
> the one you've described. Great idea. I'm building one just like the
> pictures. Parts are costing me about $40. Should only take only a few
> hours to put together and it will be customized to fit the bottom of my
> cowl. Gives peace of mind that you're not hurting your engine on those
> cold mornings.
>
>
http://www.usjabiru.com/Tech%20Tips.htm#Pre%20Heating%20in%20Very%20Cold%20Weather
>
> Time: 12:53:07 PM PST US
> From: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
> Subject: Zenith-List: Engine heaters for winter
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland"
> <larrymc@qconline.com>
>
> Hi guys,
> I've been looking at portable electric coil and fan
> heaters. These are 850 to 1500 W units that are all metal and have
> a thermostat and two-speed fan.
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Another thing to beware of is to make sure that when you finish the testing
of your experimental that you list the gross weight, stall, etc to fit SLA
if that is the way you intend to fly it. Otherwise you can screw your self
without help from the FAA.
Cy Galley - Aeronca Aviators Club
Newsletter Editor & EAA TC
www.aeronca.org
Actively supporting Aeroncas every day
----- Original Message -----
From: <PAULROD36@msn.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: SLA regs
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: <PAULROD36@msn.com>
>
> If you think the FAA is doing us a favor, or making it easier, in
regard to class III physicals, think again. The new rule in physicals is,
"You must have one to not need one". After having gone through all the hoops
to get two consecutive special issuances, both of which were done in their
own sweet time (like 5 months) I put in for a third with no change to my
cardiac condition. This time, with what can only be regarded as incredible
alacrity, they refused to renew in only 10 working days. I will now have to
put in for reconsideration, put together a package trying to convince them
that I'm safe to fly, and hope for a lucky break.
> My advice is, if you have any sort of problem, let your physical lapse
and say not another word to them. It is disheartening to know that someone
who NEVER took a physical can have a serious heart attack tomorrow,
partially recover, and fly with whatever diminished capability, while those
of us who try to play by the rules, get screwed. If you think this is an
isolated case, see this month's SportPilot, and read Bill Hagan's letter on
Page 6.
> That the FAA would put out the SLA physical rule as written, is either
a blatantly cynical abuse of bureaucratic power, or a most incredible show
of ineptness. Any organization that can parse 10 pounds of regulations to
nail you on some infinitesimal sub-sub-subparagraph surely could put
together one simple concept without stumbling all over itself. If they
really wanted to.
>
> I think we need to raise holy hell with them.
>
> OK, I've had my say, and I'm now on the FAA's bad guy list. It's up to
them to prove me wrong.
>
> Paul Rodriguez
>
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
While I can certainly sympathise Paul I must say that the whole idea of
a sport pilot not needing a physical is very very scary to me.
Not to say that your refusal for no reason whatsover is acceptable
behaviour ...It isn't and I'm sure some pen pusher somewhere either
through neglect or pure pig headedness decided to make his or her bad
day yours! Its not acceptable and precisely why folk have issues with
beaurachracy (sp).
On the other hand they can't be bothered to nail a certain Mayor you dug
up the runway on a major GA airport in blatant violation of aviation
law....What does that tell about working for the people?
Anyway back to my point...When I went to Arlington the first year that
"sport pilot" was being talked about, I was approached by several
excited members of the non flying public who to be honest looked like
they were about to die on the spot due to the poor shape they were in,
asking me about building one of these!
Now we are saying its ok for these folk to be pilots? Has anyone told
these individuals just how stressful flying can be?
If you think about it...With a fresh 20 hour ticket and a driver's
license these people can take a poor unsuspecting PX flying....I'm a
pilot don't ya know?, I just really think it's a poor idea. I note the
FAA has decreed it can come back and deem certain medical conditions as
not acceptable for a sport pilot and I really think the whole idea is a
bit half baked to be honest.
Zodiacs are not ultralights, they are real airplanes and they take skill
concentration and they are as stressful as any other GA aircraft on the
low end of the performance scale.
I do hope you get your problem resolved but I wonder if the SP thing is
going to go thru a few revisions. There might even be a few folk
building aircraft that might not end up flying them because the rules
changed in the mean time.
This is all from the perspective of somone who has been fortunate enough
not to need a waiver...yet.
Frank
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
PAULROD36@msn.com
Subject: Zenith-List: SLA regs
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <PAULROD36@msn.com>
If you think the FAA is doing us a favor, or making it easier, in
regard to class III physicals, think again. The new rule in physicals
is, "You must have one to not need one". After having gone through all
the hoops to get two consecutive special issuances, both of which were
done in their own sweet time (like 5 months) I put in for a third with
no change to my cardiac condition. This time, with what can only be
regarded as incredible alacrity, they refused to renew in only 10
working days. I will now have to put in for reconsideration, put
together a package trying to convince them that I'm safe to fly, and
hope for a lucky break.
My advice is, if you have any sort of problem, let your physical
lapse and say not another word to them. It is disheartening to know that
someone who NEVER took a physical can have a serious heart attack
tomorrow, partially recover, and fly with whatever diminished
capability, while those of us who try to play by the rules, get screwed.
If you think this is an isolated case, see this month's SportPilot, and
read Bill Hagan's letter on Page 6.
That the FAA would put out the SLA physical rule as written, is
either a blatantly cynical abuse of bureaucratic power, or a most
incredible show of ineptness. Any organization that can parse 10 pounds
of regulations to nail you on some infinitesimal sub-sub-subparagraph
surely could put together one simple concept without stumbling all over
itself. If they really wanted to.
I think we need to raise holy hell with them.
OK, I've had my say, and I'm now on the FAA's bad guy list. It's up to
them to prove me wrong.
Paul Rodriguez
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Electric Pre-heaters |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
I was thinking of turning my propane powered torpedo blast furnace
heater into a preheater just like you described. The open flame is a
little scary and in the end might prevent me from doing it but with a
very small electrical circuit supply to the hangar I can't see how else
to do it.
I would feel convicted at using it to run a block heater with all the
energy I was consuming...Hmmm.
Frank
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cgalley
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Electric Pre-heaters
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
For duct work, get an expanding length all alumnum dryer vent hose. They
self hold their position. and they are fireproof. One can get several
diameter to fit what ever out let and inlet you may have. I squared
mine off to enter a square hole.
Cy Galley - Chair,
AirVenture Emergency Aircraft Repair
A Service Project of Chapter 75
EAA Safety Programs Editor - TC
EAA Sport Pilot
----- Original Message -----
From: <charles.long@gm.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Electric Pre-heaters
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: charles.long@gm.com
>
> The Jabiru website shows pictures of an electric pre-heater
> like the one you've described. Great idea. I'm building one just
> like the pictures. Parts are costing me about $40. Should only take
> only a few hours to put together and it will be customized to fit the
> bottom of my cowl. Gives peace of mind that you're not hurting your
> engine on those cold mornings.
>
>
http://www.usjabiru.com/Tech%20Tips.htm#Pre%20Heating%20in%20Very%20Cold
%20Weather
>
> Time: 12:53:07 PM PST US
> From: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
> Subject: Zenith-List: Engine heaters for winter
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland"
> <larrymc@qconline.com>
>
> Hi guys,
> I've been looking at portable electric coil and fan
> heaters. These are 850 to 1500 W units that are all metal and have a
> thermostat and two-speed fan.
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot@comcast.net>
Are any Zenith flyers planning on taking their airplane to the 20th Annual
Flying M Ranch Fly-In/Campout this weekend? Also known as the Reklaw, TX
Fly-In.
Dates are 22-24 October 2004. Info about the airfield can be found at:
http://www.airnav.com/airport/7TA7
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolb Kolbra, Rotax 912ULS, 697 hours
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot
Zenith CH701 Project
http://home.comcast.net/~stol_airplane
http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/stol_airplane
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| Subject: | Looking for a part |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: gpjann@juno.com
The following is a description of a part which allows the Saf-Air Quick
Drain fitting to be used with Del's oil pan:
Aluminum or mild steel piece 1 1/2" long,
consisting of a male threaded end 1/2" long, and a female threaded end 1"
long.
Male and female threads are 1/2" 20 SAE.
I'm looking for someone who can make this piece for me.
I'll need the piece by end of October.
If interested please quote price.
Thanks,
Greg J.
770-277-1637
gpjann@juno.com
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: EMAproducts@aol.com
Jeff,
Neil has the answer for sure, I've been in EAA so long it never occurs to
me that some builders aren't! 40 years since I first flew to an EAA
flyin~~Anyway contact EAA and ask who is the EAA tech counselor in your area.
Call EAA
hdqrs if you don't belong to an EAA chapter. try 1 800 843 3612 This could
save you lots of $$ and time in the long run.
Follow Neil's advice!
Elbie
EM Aviation, LLC
www.riteangle.com
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary Craze" <garycraze@hotmail.com>
Many thanks to everyone for the feedback! It sounds like you can run
mogas with no physical / tuning changes to the 360.
This is what I liked about the O-300 in my Cessna 170. If I was around
convenient and reliable mogas, I'd use it. If I was at an airport with
only 100LL, I'd use that. Never saw any difference in performance.
However,if I'm hearing right, a few degrees of timing reduction would be
recommended to prevent detonation? (though I did not read that in
Frank's email from Dave Rogers at Superior). It sounds like Superior
says mogas is no problem, but do they tune it differently? Superior is
at the top of my list for an "experimental version" of an O-360 anyways.
I saw that GAMI announced a forthcoming new electronic ignition system
called PRISM which would work like an automotive system to automatically
adjust for different octane fuels (such as lower octane unleaded fuels)
to automatically maximize performance.
In any case, thanks a million for the feedback,
Gary Craze
Houston, TX
N801GC (reserved)
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keystone
Engineering LLC
Subject: Zenith-List: 801 on mo-gas
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Keystone Engineering LLC
--> <keystone@gci.net>
Gary
I'm running mine on 100 LL right now because I got a good price on my
last batch of fuel. I ran super unleaded for the much of my first 60
hrs with no problems. I was not concerned because if it was a certified
plane I could get an STC from Peterson to run super unleaded in my
O-360A4J.
http://www.webworksltd.com/autofuelstc/pa/ApprovedEngines.html In
general in Alaska it does not get hot enough to worry about vapor lock.
A hot day is in the high 70's. I did run 100LL occasionally just to
lead up the valves like they say you should.
Bill Wilcox
N801BW
Valdez, AK
Time: 09:30:47 PM PST US
From: "Gary Craze" <garycraze@hotmail.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: O-360 on mogas for my CH801
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary Craze" <garycraze@hotmail.com>
Hi all, I'll be using an O-360 in the CH801 I'm building.
With the way fuel prices keep rising, I'm interested in any feedback on
360's with mogas. I had an STC on my Cessna 170 for mogas, and was
extremely pleased with the performance, but I don't have any knowledge
on a 360. I've heard of a few running "de-rated" to 170hp with mogas.
Also, I'd like to say that while I appreciate the feedback, I'd like to
keep the topic to experiences with mogas on a O-360, and not a diatribe
on why you should / should not use mogas in an airplane.
Many thanks in advance,
Gary Craze
Houston, TX
N801GC (reserved)
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| Subject: | Re: 601HDS forms, jigs and molds |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Reinero" <reineros@pacbell.net>
Were are you located, and are they still available?
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From: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: 601HDS forms, jigs and molds
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland"
<larrymc@qconline.com>
>
> Hi guys,
> I've just realized that I've got all the forms, jigs, some molds
> and some special tooling for the 601HDS structure and
> have no future use for it as I'm now flying. I don't see
> the need for making a second plane.
>
> I need to sell it all with one of my two spare engines.
> The collection occupies a space about 3' x 4' x 8' and weighs a lot.
>
> A couple of molds for the radiator I'll keep to make copies
> yet spoken for, but to get space for this winters home improvement,
>
> I'll also keep the plans and paper associated with my plane, which
> is not for sale.
>
> Anyone interested, let me know.
>
> Larry McFarland - 601HDS - 601HDS (flying and looking forward to paint)
> www.macsmachine.com
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: JERICKSON03E@aol.com
In a message dated 10/17/2004 6:48:47 AM Central Daylight Time,
ansancle@townisp.com writes:
>How critical is the whole flat and level workbench thing?
>Essentially, I'm
>thinking I'm going to build my table like I was building a model
>railroad
>table (which also has to be fairly flat and level) - probably 1x6
>L-stringers and an MDF top.
>
>However, I'm open to suggestions.
>
>Richard Perry
Richard,
Flat is very important. With the 701, there are 13 airfoils to build. They
need to be free of twist,,, the flat surface of the work table is key.
One fast and easy way is to use a new extension ladder, two sections, as the
base with a plywood top screwed on. The ladder rails are straight and support
the top to keep it flat.
Level it when needed, as when the fuselage sections are joined.
Any questions on this idea, contact me off line please.
Jerry
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| Subject: | Re: 801 on mo-gas |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: F22clear@aol.com
yes
Dan
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jim and Lucy <jpollard@ciaccess.com>
You can get the back issues of the Zenair Newsleter
from the current publisher.
Their email address is sskrog@aol.com.
My latest newsletter states that their is 144 issues altogether.
The price is $105 US.
They may be able to print the ones up to the point where they stopped
discussing the older models.
Jim Pollard
At 05:38 PM 10/18/2004 +0800, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Peter Cove" <p3080938@optusnet.com.au>
>
> My name is Peter Cove residing in Western Australia.
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