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1. 05:57 AM - Laser Level (Paul Moore)
2. 09:55 AM - Lycoming O-320 150 HP ()
3. 11:12 AM - Tachometer Jab 3300 Engine ? (Jeffrey J Paris)
4. 11:44 AM - Re: Tachometer Jab 3300 Engine ? (Trampas)
5. 12:10 PM - Logging Programs (DKSchoonover@cs.com)
6. 12:50 PM - NEED ENGINE (Ron Lee)
7. 02:23 PM - Re: Tachometer Jab 3300 Engine ? (Ron DeWees)
8. 03:14 PM - Re: Tachometer Jab 3300 Engine ? (Alejandro Roca)
9. 03:41 PM - Newbie/ Chris Heintz (Cdngoose)
10. 07:22 PM - Bolt fairy and Flap question (Jack Russell)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
I'm using a rotating laser, cheap one from Sams Club @ around $30, sits on
it's own tripod, etc. I have a steel frame table with plywood top, and a
garage floor that isn't even close to level so leveling every point on the
table is not really an option. I use one-by's, two-by's, and square tubing
(similar to photo assembly guide) under the structure and shim these level
with simple carpenter's wedges. With a ruler set on end, shimming up low
corners to match measurements with the laser, I can level the wing to less
than 1mm front to back or end to end in about a minute. I've then checked
with 4' spirit level to confirm, but have quit doing that because I now
trust the accuracy of the laser.
Judging from other's comments that they can materially effect the heavy left
wing or other control problems by raising or lowering the trailing edge by
1/4" to 1/2", it tells me you want to construct EVERY component to very
close tolerance, especially when doing so is really very simple. Granted,
for some tasks, the digital level could do a better job but for ease of use
and price, to keep the major components of the airframe square and
twist-free, I'm happy.
Paul
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| Subject: | Lycoming O-320 150 HP |
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "" <jeffpaden@madbbs.com>
If anyone on this list would be interested in a Lycoming O-320 150 HP engine I
have one with under 300 hours SMOH for sale It was too small for my CH-640 and
I have no plan on ever building another aircraft so the engine is not doing me
any
good just sitting in my hangar Interested parties please contact me off list at
[mailto:jeffpaden@madbbscom]jeffpaden@madbbscom for pictures and answers to
any questions you may have Penn Yan Aero has told me that the core alone is worth
$8,00000 Make me an offer I don't want to store this over the winter Thank
you to everyone on this list for all the help you have offered over the past couple
of years I have found that I LOVE flying but can not say that I would ever want
to build another aircraft I for one would much rather be flying than building
The CH-640 is still in the testing stage and cold winter weather is starting to
hit us so more than likely the tests will continue next spring I wanted to get
performance numbers posted to the list before bad weather hit but I don't think
that is going to happen I can however say that even though we have tested the
CH-640 up to 190 mph, I am going to set the Vne at 175 mph which is the published
Vne of the aircraft This is fast enough for me and then I know the aircraft is
flying in the "SAFE" zone As for the 70 lbs of weight in the tail Well, after
talking with ZAC yesterday I have decided to ignore the W&B numbers, remove some
weight from the tail and test fly her again The worst that will happen is that
I will be nose heavy and need to carry power on landing to flare Once I reach
that point I will add a little weight back to the tail and call it finished This
will put us nose heavy by the numbers, but those numbers don't seem to agree with
the way the aircraft actually flys which could be due to the fact that my engine
is longer than the original engine ZAC is helping me with this and I will send
them new W&B data sheets once we can test this Happy building to=20everyone Jeff
Paden
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| Subject: | Tachometer Jab 3300 Engine ? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey J Paris" <jeffrey-j-paris@excite.com>
Hello Fellow Listers,
This is my first time on the list and you can't imagine what help it has been to
be on the list. Although this is my first question, I always seem to get the
information I need off the list before I've had to write an e-mail.
Well here it goes, I'm a 601XL builder who has hung a Jabiru 3300 on the firewall.
I'm at the 95% done 95% to go stage. Building has been a blast. With that
behind me, here is my question:
I am looking for insight in finding for purchase an electronic Tachometer and the
6.35 X 22 MM magnetic analog sender that fits on the Jabiru 3300 engine. I
have contacted US Jabiru (our Dealer) and they say the can sell me a set-up for
$226.00, I asked for specific details and I have yet to receive an answer.
I called Zenith and they have a set-up on the shelf for $298.00 and they too
could not help with part numbers or specific detail and referred me back to USJabiru.
What's the story? I have contacted VDO and NSI and I believe I have found the
correct Tach, but no one has a clue about the 6.35 X 22 MM magnetic sender. I
have even e-mailed Jabiru Headquarters in Australia and Guess what no answer!
The pictures that Jabiru has makes the hook-up a no brainer.
Well, enough of my tale of woe. Builder Guru's with experience in Jabiru 3300
come to my rescue.
Sincerely,
Jeff "Heffrey" Paris
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| Subject: | Tachometer Jab 3300 Engine ? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Trampas" <tstern@nc.rr.com>
I know that for the Grand Rapid's EIS unit Jabiru recommend using the
alternator output.
I have designed a circuit which will take the magneto p-leads for the
Jabiru's ignition system and product a pulsed output which is compatible
with most tachometers that accept a laser ignition input.
I also am currently finishing up the testing on a cheap engine monitor which
includes a tachometer, but I do not think it is exactly what you wanted.
Regards,
Trampas
www.sterntech.com
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey J Paris
Subject: Zenith-List: Tachometer Jab 3300 Engine ?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey J Paris"
<jeffrey-j-paris@excite.com>
Hello Fellow Listers,
This is my first time on the list and you can't imagine what help it has
been to be on the list. Although this is my first question, I always seem
to get the information I need off the list before I've had to write an
e-mail.
Well here it goes, I'm a 601XL builder who has hung a Jabiru 3300 on the
firewall. I'm at the 95% done 95% to go stage. Building has been a blast.
With that behind me, here is my question:
I am looking for insight in finding for purchase an electronic Tachometer
and the 6.35 X 22 MM magnetic analog sender that fits on the Jabiru 3300
engine. I have contacted US Jabiru (our Dealer) and they say the can sell
me a set-up for $226.00, I asked for specific details and I have yet to
receive an answer. I called Zenith and they have a set-up on the shelf for
$298.00 and they too could not help with part numbers or specific detail and
referred me back to USJabiru.
What's the story? I have contacted VDO and NSI and I believe I have found
the correct Tach, but no one has a clue about the 6.35 X 22 MM magnetic
sender. I have even e-mailed Jabiru Headquarters in Australia and Guess
what no answer! The pictures that Jabiru has makes the hook-up a no brainer.
Well, enough of my tale of woe. Builder Guru's with experience in Jabiru
3300 come to my rescue.
Sincerely,
Jeff "Heffrey" Paris
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| Subject: | Logging Programs |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: DKSchoonover@cs.com
Thanks yu'all. Am checking kitlog which looks like a good program. I'm sure
I'll need a lot more help than this once I get started. Feels good th have a
place where I can get information and help. Thanks again.
Don S.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ron Lee" <rlee468@comcast.net>
I am ready for an engine in my CH701. It will be a 912ULS. My problem is, I need
to sell my Titan-1 first. Anyone know of a buyer please have them contact me
off line.
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: Tachometer Jab 3300 Engine ? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ron DeWees" <rdewees@mindspring.com>
Hi Jeff,
Try UMA. I inherited a tach for my panel that was set up for a Jab 4 banger
and called UMA to see what I could do. THey rewired it and calibrated it
and sent a calibration sheet with the upgraded unit in only a few days.
They were very helpful on the phone and I like the unit. THe only thing I
have noticed so far is that it doesn't register till you get over 600 rpm or
so. That's almost too low to be a problem and I suspect the alternator
isn't producing much pulse for it to trigger on.at these low rpms. Don't
think a new unit would be close to Jab's prices, but don't take my word for
it.
Good luck and welcome to the list.
Ron DeWees
N601TD final stages
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey J Paris" <jeffrey-j-paris@excite.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Tachometer Jab 3300 Engine ?
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey J Paris"
> <jeffrey-j-paris@excite.com>
>
>
> Hello Fellow Listers,
>
> This is my first time on the list and you can't imagine what help it has
> been to be on the list. Although this is my first question, I always seem
> to get the information I need off the list before I've had to write an
> e-mail.
>
> Well here it goes, I'm a 601XL builder who has hung a Jabiru 3300 on the
> firewall. I'm at the 95% done 95% to go stage. Building has been a
> blast. With that behind me, here is my question:
>
> I am looking for insight in finding for purchase an electronic Tachometer
> and the 6.35 X 22 MM magnetic analog sender that fits on the Jabiru 3300
> engine. I have contacted US Jabiru (our Dealer) and they say the can sell
> me a set-up for $226.00, I asked for specific details and I have yet to
> receive an answer. I called Zenith and they have a set-up on the shelf
> for $298.00 and they too could not help with part numbers or specific
> detail and referred me back to USJabiru.
>
> What's the story? I have contacted VDO and NSI and I believe I have found
> the correct Tach, but no one has a clue about the 6.35 X 22 MM magnetic
> sender. I have even e-mailed Jabiru Headquarters in Australia and Guess
> what no answer! The pictures that Jabiru has makes the hook-up a no
> brainer.
>
> Well, enough of my tale of woe. Builder Guru's with experience in Jabiru
> 3300 come to my rescue.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jeff "Heffrey" Paris
>
> Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com
> The most personalized portal on the Web!
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tachometer Jab 3300 Engine ? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Alejandro Roca <alex_roca@mac.com>
I had ordered the tach from Jabiru and was not happy with the size and cost so
I returned it. I then called UMA and asked them what 2- 1/4" Tach they recommended
for the Jabiru 3300. They gave me the UMA p/n 19-505-10J. I then ordered
it through Aircraft Spruce as a specialty item. It cost me $158. Simple installation.
You just have to connect to one of the alternators output. Hope this
helps.
On Friday, November 05, 2004, at 01:28PM, Jeffrey J Paris <jeffrey-j-paris@excite.com>
wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey J Paris" <jeffrey-j-paris@excite.com>
>
>
>Hello Fellow Listers,
>
>This is my first time on the list and you can't imagine what help it has been
to be on the list. Although this is my first question, I always seem to get the
information I need off the list before I've had to write an e-mail.
>
>Well here it goes, I'm a 601XL builder who has hung a Jabiru 3300 on the firewall.
I'm at the 95% done 95% to go stage. Building has been a blast. With that
behind me, here is my question:
>
>I am looking for insight in finding for purchase an electronic Tachometer and
the 6.35 X 22 MM magnetic analog sender that fits on the Jabiru 3300 engine.
I have contacted US Jabiru (our Dealer) and they say the can sell me a set-up
for $226.00, I asked for specific details and I have yet to receive an answer.
I called Zenith and they have a set-up on the shelf for $298.00 and they too
could not help with part numbers or specific detail and referred me back to USJabiru.
>
>What's the story? I have contacted VDO and NSI and I believe I have found the
correct Tach, but no one has a clue about the 6.35 X 22 MM magnetic sender.
I have even e-mailed Jabiru Headquarters in Australia and Guess what no answer!
The pictures that Jabiru has makes the hook-up a no brainer.
>
>Well, enough of my tale of woe. Builder Guru's with experience in Jabiru 3300
come to my rescue.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Jeff "Heffrey" Paris
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| Subject: | Newbie/ Chris Heintz |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
For all of you that are just considering building a Zenith plane or have
already taken the step of buying the plans you may want to check out the
Newbie Section of www.ch601.org
Also for everyone on this list I have arranged for Chris Heintz to be
the Guest speaker of the Kitchener Waterloo RAA chapter for November.
This is held at CYKF on November 15th at 7:30pm. This is located in
Kitchener, Ontario. Canada. It will give all builders a chance to be up
close with Chris and have a chance to ask all your questions. All are
welcome !!
Mark Townsend
Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL EJ 2.2L
Osprey 2 serial # 751
www.ch601.org
www.Osprey2.com
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| Subject: | Bolt fairy and Flap question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jack Russell <clojan@sbcglobal.net>
Mike: That is exactly what I think I will do. You are probably right thinking that
the kit would supply different aircraft. It would make fiscal sense to add
a few extra bolts than have several different kits.
I know you are about done with your airframe and I just finished my flaps tonight.
In order for the flap to be "netural" when a straight edge is laid on the
top of the wing and flap, I end up with about a 8-10mm gap between the front top
edge of the flap and the trailing edge of the wing. Just curious as to what
kind of a gap you have there? I don't have enough play in the flap screw mechanism
to go any closer and when I extend it down I can just get the 30 deg. Thanks
again.
Jack in Clovis CA
XL kinda starting to look like something that could fly!
wizard-24@juno.com wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: wizard-24@juno.com
Jack, don't fret....I'm practically finished with the airframe, and I
have lots of hardware left over. I think the reason for that is the
supplied hardware kit is the same for those who are scratch building, and
with the kits some (but not many) parts are already assembled. This
probably accounts for some of the extra parts. Just do like I did and
make sure there aren't any empty holes in the plane. :)
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