---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 11/12/04: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:40 AM - Re: Re: Zenith CH601 HDS Bungees, Main Gear and Nose Gear (Weston, Jim) 2. 06:40 AM - Re: Re:601 HDS wing joint cover (Russell Johnson) 3. 12:29 PM - 601XL Landing & Nose Gear (Frank Jones) 4. 12:35 PM - Re: Engine mount failure (Frank Jones) 5. 03:52 PM - Re: 601XL Flap Actuator Travel (Scott Laughlin) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:28 AM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith-List: RE: Zenith CH601 HDS Bungees, Main Gear and Nose Gear From: "Weston, Jim" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Weston, Jim" I just replaced the nose gear bungee on my 601HDS, for the first time, last weekend. It is a 1080HD bungee. It wasn't too bad to replace. Had to disassemble the lower bushing assembly, disconnect the steering arms, remove top retainer cap, remove thru pin that holds the bungee, and pull it out. Wasn't as easy to reassemble. The pin was tough to get back in with the bungee filling the space between the firewall and the pin, and it was fun to stretch the new bungee into place with the engine now in the way (the original was install, by me, before the engine was hung). Scraped a few knuckles, but it is doable. Jim Weston Concord, Ga. -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Glasserow Subject: Zenith-List: RE: Zenith CH601 HDS Bungees, Main Gear and Nose Gear --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Glasserow" --> There's been some interesting discussion regarding when it's time to replace the gear bungees on 801's. I assume the same would be true for 601's. Can anyone tell me what size and weight bungess ZAC supplies in their 601 kits? Could I go heavier? and, if so, could someone make a reccomendation? I have a feeling I'm going to have to replace them on the plane I'm looking to buy. They were new in 1996... Been in/on the plane since '99 with an 0-235 hanging off the front. Is it a big job to replace them??? ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:50 AM PST US From: "Russell Johnson" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re:601 HDS wing joint cover --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Russell Johnson" Take look at my wing joint panels in the "Builder Listing Database: ZODIAC Builders" With a little work the covers will fit like a glove. Please ignore the link to my web page, I had a computer crash while working on this and lost some (most) of the photos. Russell 601-hds +++++++++++++++ > Hi 601 HDS builders, > Does anyone have any ideas or tips on how to put the flat trim strip > around a curve with a taper on one side like the center section and outter > panel. Looks impossible. > > Ron DeWees > N601TD ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:29:03 PM PST US From: "Frank Jones" Subject: Zenith-List: 601XL Landing & Nose Gear --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Frank Jones" Is anyone else having trouble gently setting the nose gear down on landing? It seems that no matter how hard I try and no matter how gently the main gear comes down, the nose just wants to come down right away and there's no way to let it down nicely. I'm assuming this is a feature. Frank Jones C-GYXQ 601XL 912S ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:35:33 PM PST US From: "Frank Jones" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Engine mount failure --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Frank Jones" I found that heating the engine mount with some propane torches once it is set in place relieves the stress and leaves a comfortable fit on the bolts. I'm told this does not affect the temper of this steel. Frank Jones ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:52:20 PM PST US From: "Scott Laughlin" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL Flap Actuator Travel --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" Thanks Jack! I'm thinking about doing the control arm a little different - using a tube instead of the two 1/4" arms. I'll put a screw in it so I can raise and lower it to achieve the best travel distance. The actuators I found are a little nice than the ZAC supplied unit in that they have end of travel stop and no external limit switches. The only problem is that I have to be able to make it work with 2 inches or 4 inches of full travel. I think I have it figured out and plan to do some welding this weekend on it. My acetelyne tank doesn't like the cold weather and regsters low pressure for some reason. I'll have to warm it up before using it. The baggage floor is fit and cleco'd in place. I still have to run all my cables so I figure I'll do that with the floor and top skin off. I just need a six-day weekend. Take care, Scott. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Jack Russell Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL Flap Actuator Travel --> Zenith-List message posted by: Jack Russell --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" Did you post a photo one time showing the travel on the outside of the fuselage? If you can direct me to that photo I'd appreciate it. Scott. Scott: I remembering seeing that picture and I went searching when I was doing the flaps but could not find it. Just don't drill your control tubes until you have the flaps and motor mounted on your plane. I drilled a pilot hole completely through the Actuator arm (remember to position the hole so the nut and bolt heads clear the rear channel both up flap and down position) mounted flaps in the full up position and then drilled through the actuator holes into the top of the control tubes. Took everything apart, clecoed the top holes, and turned the assembly over and drilled the bottom of the control tubes. Took a day to think about it and 20 min to do! Sounds more complicated than it actually was. I think your flaps will be more accurate if you wait to drill your tubes until everything is mounted to the wing. Hope you haven't fastened the baggage compartment floor yet. I got tired of taking it on and off so I split in in half and mounted the back half but left the front removable for now. I also rebuilt the center support (where the two pieces meet) for a little more strenght. It is also easier to install 2 smaller pieces than that one large piece. Jack in Clovis CA Jack Russell -Clovis CA 601 XL Jabiru 3300 Progress update at: http://www.geocities.com/clojan@sbcglobal.net/zodiacbarn.html