Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:37 AM - Re: Lower fairing on the rudder (Howard Carter)
2. 01:16 AM - Re: HDS Tailwheel plans (Ron)
3. 06:46 AM - Re: CH-701 clarity of manual and quality of parts for (Hal Rozema)
4. 06:57 AM - Re: Lower fairing on the rudder (Matt & Jo)
5. 07:00 AM - Re: CH-701 clarity of manual and quality of parts for kit (Larry Martin)
6. 07:18 AM - Questions about Dynon EFIS D-10? (Jeffrey J Paris)
7. 07:18 AM - Re: Lower fairing on the rudder (Scott Laughlin)
8. 07:28 AM - Re: Seeking fuel gage recommendations (george may)
9. 07:29 AM - Re: Seeking fuel gage recommendations (george may)
10. 10:33 AM - Fuel pump operation (was 601XL Fuel Valve and duel control problem ) (Jim Frisby)
11. 11:21 AM - Re: Questions about Dynon EFIS D-10? (Winston Ellis)
12. 01:24 PM - Re: Lower fairing on the rudder (Howard Carter)
13. 04:45 PM - Re: Questions about Dynon EFIS D-10? (RURUNY@aol.com)
14. 11:19 PM - XL trim authority with full flap (norman)
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| Subject: | Re: Lower fairing on the rudder |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Howard Carter <howado@cwia.com>
Matt,
look at the Photo Manual Final Assembly Section1, page 11. It was left
off to be attached after the rudder is mounted to enable it to be
slipped into the gap which is not known exactly until the rudder is mounted.
Howard Carter
Matt & Jo wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matt & Jo" <archermj@swbell.net>
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>Hello all, Quick question.
>
>Looking at the photo assembly manual it looks like you should not attach the lower
fairing on the rudder till some point later. I have been looking through
the plans and the assembly manual and can not seem to find out when to attach
it. Does any one know why it should be left off till later?
>
>Cheers
>
>Matt
>601 XL
>
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| Subject: | Re: HDS Tailwheel plans |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ron" <aussieflyier@yahoo.com.au>
There is a tail wheel supplement and it is available for $25US direct from
Zenith.
Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Tucker" <btucke73@yahoo.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: HDS Tailwheel plans
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
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> Gents,
>
> Is there a tailwheel suppliment for the HD/HDS?
> I am looking through my stuff, and can find nothing
> about the tailwheel installation.
> If so, does anyone have an electronic copy?? The guy
> I bought the plans from was not planning on a
> taildragger.
>
> R/
>
> Brandon
>
>
> __________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: CH-701 clarity of manual and quality of parts for |
kit
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net>
MElrod3732@aol.com wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: MElrod3732@aol.com
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>Hi Larry: What "CD" are you referring to? Is there a CD available with
>color construction pictures for the 701?
>
>Thanks, Mike Elrod
>
>
>
They are available on the ZAC website. I downloaded theentire set and
printed them out on a color printer. Takes an evening. costs you paper
and ink.
Hal
ThePlaneFolks.Net
Phoenix, AZ
VSTOL CH701/3300
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| Subject: | Re: Lower fairing on the rudder |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matt & Jo" <archermj@swbell.net>
Thanks Howard,
I think I found the problem. In the Photo Assembly Guide CD and the website
I don't see a "Final Assembly Section". Was this in a paper copy or was it
a PDF? I may need to contact ZAC and make sure I have all of the manuals or
guides.
Matt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Carter" <howado@cwia.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Lower fairing on the rudder
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Howard Carter <howado@cwia.com>
>
> Matt,
> look at the Photo Manual Final Assembly Section1, page 11. It was left
> off to be attached after the rudder is mounted to enable it to be
> slipped into the gap which is not known exactly until the rudder is
> mounted.
> Howard Carter
>
> Matt & Jo wrote:
>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matt & Jo" <archermj@swbell.net>
>>
>>Hello all, Quick question.
>>
>>Looking at the photo assembly manual it looks like you should not attach
>>the lower fairing on the rudder till some point later. I have been
>>looking through the plans and the assembly manual and can not seem to find
>>out when to attach it. Does any one know why it should be left off till
>>later?
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Matt
>>601 XL
>>
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| Subject: | Re: CH-701 clarity of manual and quality of parts for kit |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <lrm@isp.com>
Yep, Zenith now puts out a CD on the 701 instead of a Black and White
manual, well they may still have the manual. I've seen the CD and it's sure
better than the manual. I think they get $25 or $35 for the CD. However,
you need a computer at your work place or you have to print everything. I
think they, Zenith, should publish the color manual. They sure charge
enought for the plans and manual to justify it, $380. Larry N1345L -----
Original Message -----
From: <MElrod3732@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: CH-701 clarity of manual and quality of parts for
kit
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: MElrod3732@aol.com
>
> Hi Larry: What "CD" are you referring to? Is there a CD available with
> color construction pictures for the 701?
>
> Thanks, Mike Elrod
>
>
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| Subject: | Questions about Dynon EFIS D-10? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey J Paris" <jeffrey-j-paris@excite.com>
Hello Listers,
I have a question or two about the installation of the Dynon EFIS D-10 that I am
installing in my 601XL. If anybody anybody is using this equipment and has
installed theirs' I could use some help.
My first question revolves around the wiring that pertains to the Altitude Encoder?
What's going on there? I have my transponder already hooked up to my encoder.
Is their a way to "piggyback" the wiring to the encoder so both the EFIS
and the Transponder can use the information provided by the Altitude Encoder.
Second, if I can't piggy back will I need another altitude encoder? Lastly, am
I overthinking this thing and should I just forget the hook-up and live with
the fact that the unit will not be adjusted for barometic pressure?
Anyones thoughts, opinions and insight would be greatly appreciated! Thanks for
your time and consideration, this list is great!
Jeff "Heffrey" Paris
CH601XL
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| Subject: | Re: Lower fairing on the rudder |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Laughlin" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
We've all been looking for that little jewel for some time. Good luck.
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Matt & Jo" <archermj@swbell.net>
I think I found the problem. In the Photo Assembly Guide CD and the website
I don't see a "Final Assembly Section". Was this in a paper copy or was it
a PDF? I may need to contact ZAC and make sure I have all of the manuals or
guides.
Matt
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| Subject: | Seeking fuel gage recommendations |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "george may" <gfmjr_20@hotmail.com>
Mike--
I'm using the Chief Aircraft guages. They have about a 270 degree needle
swing so they
give a good wide range for fuel level determination
George May
601XL
>From: MElrod3732@aol.com
>Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Seeking fuel gage recommendations
>Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 00:09:50 EST
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: MElrod3732@aol.com
>
>I am preparing the fuel tank for installation for my CH-701 and I need to
>purchase 2 fuel gages to check the calibration of the VDO fuel sender. I
>would
>like to get some recommendations on what type and brand of fuel gage
>others
>have used that work well and a good place to buy them. I am only looking
>for
>fuel gages and not a complete engine gage package.
>Thanks in advance,
>Mike Elrod 701 tail done, right wing 70%
>
>
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| Subject: | Seeking fuel gage recommendations |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "george may" <gfmjr_20@hotmail.com>
Mike--
I'm using the Chief Aircraft guages. They have about a 270 degree needle
swing so they
give a good wide range for fuel level determination
George May
601XL
>From: MElrod3732@aol.com
>Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Seeking fuel gage recommendations
>Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 00:09:50 EST
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: MElrod3732@aol.com
>
>I am preparing the fuel tank for installation for my CH-701 and I need to
>purchase 2 fuel gages to check the calibration of the VDO fuel sender. I
>would
>like to get some recommendations on what type and brand of fuel gage
>others
>have used that work well and a good place to buy them. I am only looking
>for
>fuel gages and not a complete engine gage package.
>Thanks in advance,
>Mike Elrod 701 tail done, right wing 70%
>
>
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| Subject: | Fuel pump operation (was 601XL Fuel Valve and duel control |
problem )
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Frisby" <n801za@hotmail.com>
Tim,
I'm thinking that the pump is designed for a set increase in pressure. I
thought the pressure was limited by the differential pressure across the
check valves. For example, if it was designed to raise the pressure 5 psi,
and the pressure was already say 4 psi in the incoming line, wouldn't that
raise it to 9 in the outlet?
Jim Frisby
N801ZA
Palmer, Alaska
Time: 06:21:36 PM PST US From: Tim & Diane Shankland <tshank@megsinet.net>
Subject: Re: 601XL Fuel Valve and duel control problem
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Tim & Diane Shankland
<tshank@megsinet.net>
There is an aspect of mechanical engine fuel pumps that is often not
considered. They are not additive for fuel pressure. Most engine
driven
pumps do not pump on the "power stroke" from the engine. That is when
the engine pulls the diaphragm down it does not pumps fuel out, it
compresses a spring. When the power stroke is done the spring forces
the
fuel out, so the pressure from the pump is determined by the spring.
This is because it it pumped on the power stoke the pressure would
overwhelm the carb. Since the output pressure of the mechanical pump
is
determined by its' spring it is not additive. That is why low wing
aircraft with both an engine driven pump and an electric "boast pump"
have no problem with over pressure.
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| Subject: | Re: Questions about Dynon EFIS D-10? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Winston Ellis <w1mdi@cox-internet.com>
Yes. The Dynon includes an encoder that you can hook up to the transponder but
since you already have an encoder you don't need that function. This will simplify
your wiring harness. The Dynon does have barometric adjustment for the altimeter.
Jeffrey J Paris wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey J Paris" <jeffrey-j-paris@excite.com>
> ... Lastly, am I overthinking this thing and should I just forget the hook-up
and live with the fact that the unit will not be adjusted for barometic pressure?
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lower fairing on the rudder |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Howard Carter <howado@cwia.com>
Matt,
the Final Assembly Sections on my DC are in PDF format. In spite of the
title, the only FA part concerns the rudder attachment to the fuselage.
I suspect that this section is a work in progress.
Howard
Matt & Jo wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matt & Jo" <archermj@swbell.net>
>
>Thanks Howard,
>
>I think I found the problem. In the Photo Assembly Guide CD and the website
>I don't see a "Final Assembly Section". Was this in a paper copy or was it
>a PDF? I may need to contact ZAC and make sure I have all of the manuals or
>guides.
>
>Matt
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Howard Carter" <howado@cwia.com>
>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Lower fairing on the rudder
>
>
>
>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Howard Carter <howado@cwia.com>
>>
>>Matt,
>>look at the Photo Manual Final Assembly Section1, page 11. It was left
>>off to be attached after the rudder is mounted to enable it to be
>>slipped into the gap which is not known exactly until the rudder is
>>mounted.
>>Howard Carter
>>
>>Matt & Jo wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matt & Jo" <archermj@swbell.net>
>>>
>>>Hello all, Quick question.
>>>
>>>Looking at the photo assembly manual it looks like you should not attach
>>>the lower fairing on the rudder till some point later. I have been
>>>looking through the plans and the assembly manual and can not seem to find
>>>out when to attach it. Does any one know why it should be left off till
>>>later?
>>>
>>>Cheers
>>>
>>>Matt
>>>601 XL
>>>
>>>
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>>
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| Subject: | Re: Questions about Dynon EFIS D-10? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com
Jeff,
The Dynon D-10 has a built in altitude encoder and outputs this in standard
gray code
used by most transponders(11 wires).
The new Dynon D-10A also has a built in altitude encoder but it is a serial
output only
(1 wire). You would need a newer transponder such as the Garmin GTX327 to
use the
encoder.
If you have your transponder already hooked up to a separate encoder you can
just leave it like that and install your dynon.
The dynon will not use your existing encoder for anything and does not need
an external encoder for any of its functions.
The dynon has an encoder built in it for its own use and for output to your
transponder.
If you have the newer dynon D10A and an older transponder you wouldn't be
able to use the dynon encoder for that transponder anyway.
If the transponder and the dynon are compatable you could wire your dynon
encoder output to the transponder and sell your existing encoder.
Using the soft keys on the dynon, you can set the barometric pressure
manually.
Hope this helps.
Brian Unruh
Long Island ( Installing a dynon)
>My first question revolves around the wiring that pertains to the Altitude
Encoder?
>What's going on there?
>Anyones thoughts, opinions and insight would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks for
>your time and consideration, this list is great!
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| Subject: | XL trim authority with full flap |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "norman" <normskiroo@ukonline.co.uk>
Does anyone have a problem when full flap is selected in trimming the nose down
tendency on the Zenair Zodiac CH601 XL?
The first two XL's now undergoing test flying in the UK (none are on the register
at present) will not trim out with full flap and the stick has to be pulled
back to fly straight and level.
I have come to the conclusion that the only way to fix the problem is to extend
the elevator trim tab beyond the trailing edge of the elevator.
The trim tab was doubled in size some time ago by Czech Airworks but the problem
is still with us.
Anyone else had this problem and have you fixed it?
Regards,
Norman Butcher
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