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1. 07:24 AM - Venturi vacuum systems (Phil Raker)
2. 10:10 AM - 701 wing struts (Tony & Peggy Pierce)
3. 11:58 AM - Re: Venturi vacuum systems (Cleone Markwell)
4. 12:13 PM - Re: Venturi vacuum systems (B Johnson)
5. 01:53 PM - Re: 701 wing struts (szewc@direcway.com)
6. 02:47 PM - Matco Axels (Chuck Deiterich)
7. 05:36 PM - Great Plains Aircraft (Brandon Tucker)
8. 11:03 PM - 701 Cowling (Rowland137@cs.com)
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| Subject: | Venturi vacuum systems |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Phil Raker <phadr1@yahoo.com>
Gary,
I'd echo what Mark Townsend wrote and also add a comment about the "glass
panel" system from Grand Rapids Technologies. They have a single unit which
can be almost all of your panel except for radios. It's an EFIS which will
also display engine info and navigation info on the same screen. I'm
tentatively planning to use it.
Since I see that you've chosen the HDS model, I assume that speed (a
relative term) is at least somewhat important to you. As you probably already
know, venturis are a drag, in more ways than one. They also collect ice very
quiclky in the kind of conditions where you need attitude info the most. They
can also ice in conditions which would generate carb ice.
I have never liked vacuum systems, so was looking at electric gyros
(expensive). Then the Dynon and Grand Rapids EFIS systems became available at
"reasonable" prices. THAT's the way to go! My 2 cents.
Phil Raker N556P HDS/Stratus ~85% completed
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Subject: Zenith-List: Venturi vacuum systems
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary A. Boothe" <gboothe@calply.com>
List,
I hate to date myself (let's just say that I have been out of the saddle
for over 20 years) but I am designing the panel and have noticed very
few 601's with venturi's. Are electric systems the way to go?
Gary Boothe
WW Corvair Power - 601HDS
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tony & Peggy Pierce" <piercetonypeggy@mail.usa.com>
We temporarily attached the left wing yesterday to check the fit. The wing attach
points matched perfectly, the rear strut fit well, but the front strut appears
to require approximately 9 degrees of twist. It appears that the steel plate
on the gear/strut fitting is roughly parallel to the cabin bottom rather
than parallel to the reference line. Besides asking Zenith to replace the front
strut, how have others fixed this?
Thanks in advance,
Tony Pierce
CH 701 (5188)
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| Subject: | Re: Venturi vacuum systems |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Cleone Markwell <cleone@rr1.net>
I use a venturi and it is nice to see a horizon working on the panel. I
don't intend to fly instruments. I did for years. I'm sure there is a
drag to it but I had flown my plane for over a year before I put it on and
the drag hasn't made a noticeable difference in air speed. It is also nice
when young ladies say; "And you even have a horn".
Cleone
At 09:22 AM 12/16/04, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Phil Raker <phadr1@yahoo.com>
>
>Gary,
> I'd echo what Mark Townsend wrote and also add a comment about the
> "glass
>panel" system from Grand Rapids Technologies. They have a single unit which
>can be almost all of your panel except for radios. It's an EFIS which will
>also display engine info and navigation info on the same screen. I'm
>tentatively planning to use it.
> Since I see that you've chosen the HDS model, I assume that speed (a
>relative term) is at least somewhat important to you. As you probably already
>know, venturis are a drag, in more ways than one. They also collect ice very
>quiclky in the kind of conditions where you need attitude info the most. They
>can also ice in conditions which would generate carb ice.
> I have never liked vacuum systems, so was looking at electric gyros
>(expensive). Then the Dynon and Grand Rapids EFIS systems became available at
>"reasonable" prices. THAT's the way to go! My 2 cents.
>
> Phil Raker N556P HDS/Stratus ~85% completed
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Subject: Zenith-List: Venturi vacuum systems
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary A. Boothe" <gboothe@calply.com>
>
>List,
>I hate to date myself (let's just say that I have been out of the saddle
>for over 20 years) but I am designing the panel and have noticed very
>few 601's with venturi's. Are electric systems the way to go?
>
>Gary Boothe
>WW Corvair Power - 601HDS
>
>
>__________________________________
>http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
>
>
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| Subject: | Venturi vacuum systems |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "B Johnson" <bjohnson@satx.rr.com>
Leo Gates' HDS has a special "triple venture".... but they are plastic, and
they play "Dixie" (or is it the "charge" preamble...) <grin>
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Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Venturi vacuum systems
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Cleone Markwell <cleone@rr1.net>
I use a venturi and it is nice to see a horizon working on the panel. I
don't intend to fly instruments. I did for years. I'm sure there is a
drag to it but I had flown my plane for over a year before I put it on and
the drag hasn't made a noticeable difference in air speed. It is also nice
when young ladies say; "And you even have a horn".
Cleone
At 09:22 AM 12/16/04, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Phil Raker <phadr1@yahoo.com>
>
>Gary,
> I'd echo what Mark Townsend wrote and also add a comment about the
> "glass
>panel" system from Grand Rapids Technologies. They have a single unit
which
>can be almost all of your panel except for radios. It's an EFIS which will
>also display engine info and navigation info on the same screen. I'm
>tentatively planning to use it.
> Since I see that you've chosen the HDS model, I assume that speed (a
>relative term) is at least somewhat important to you. As you probably
already
>know, venturis are a drag, in more ways than one. They also collect ice
very
>quiclky in the kind of conditions where you need attitude info the most.
They
>can also ice in conditions which would generate carb ice.
> I have never liked vacuum systems, so was looking at electric gyros
>(expensive). Then the Dynon and Grand Rapids EFIS systems became available
at
>"reasonable" prices. THAT's the way to go! My 2 cents.
>
> Phil Raker N556P HDS/Stratus ~85% completed
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Subject: Zenith-List: Venturi vacuum systems
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary A. Boothe" <gboothe@calply.com>
>
>List,
>I hate to date myself (let's just say that I have been out of the saddle
>for over 20 years) but I am designing the panel and have noticed very
>few 601's with venturi's. Are electric systems the way to go?
>
>Gary Boothe
>WW Corvair Power - 601HDS
>
>
>__________________________________
>http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 701 wing struts |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: szewc@direcway.com
Tony,
Several people have reported this problem. I corrected it by heating the strut
in a jig and twisting to get the right fit.
Ken Szewc
N701SZ 72hrs
----- Original Message -----
From: Tony & Peggy Pierce <piercetonypeggy@mail.usa.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: 701 wing struts
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tony & Peggy Pierce"
> <piercetonypeggy@mail.usa.com>
> We temporarily attached the left wing yesterday to check the fit.
> The wing attach points matched perfectly, the rear strut fit well,
> but the front strut appears to require approximately 9 degrees of
> twist. It appears that the steel plate on the gear/strut fitting
> is roughly parallel to the cabin bottom rather than parallel to
> the reference line. Besides asking Zenith to replace the front
> strut, how have others fixed this?
> Thanks in advance,
> Tony Pierce
> CH 701 (5188)
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chuck Deiterich" <cfd@thegateway.net>
Folks,
The latest issue of the Zenith Newsletter said that the company that now makes
the Matco axles will replace the old 701 axles with the newer version which is
beefed up where the axle and flange join. The exchange is about $32 per axle.
We have till Dec 05 to send them in. I have the old style and have made
a hard landing or two but looking at the axles closely I find no damage or cracks.
Question: how many of you all are going to exchange your axles?
Chuck D.
N701TX
Jabiru 2200
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| Subject: | Great Plains Aircraft |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
Gents,
I recieved my axles that I ordered from Great
Plains today, and I am very dissapointed with what I
got. I ordered two 5/8" axles, and recieved two 3/4"
grade 5 bolts with a castle nut and cotter pin. Hell,
the bolt wasn't even drilled for the cotter pin! If I
wanted a regular bolt, I could have gotten a drilled
grade 8 bolt locally for half the price.
I have heard good things about the people a Great
Plains, so this confuses me. For those who have dealt
with them; is this unusual? I am quite irritated, and
am ready to raise hell.
Respectfully,
Brandon
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rowland137@cs.com
Anyone know how much Blueworks charges for the Jabiru 2200 cowling for the
701, and are there any other sources for 701 cowling with the Jab 2200? Not
ready yet, just planning ahead. Placing an order now for the landing gear kit to
finish the firewall.
Norm in Nevada
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