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1. 05:16 AM - Update to 701 plans (Robert C. Owens)
2. 06:57 AM - Re: Update to 701 plans (cgalley)
3. 07:18 AM - Re: Update to 701 plans (jnbolding1)
4. 07:48 AM - 912 Engine chosen (RURUNY@aol.com)
5. 07:51 AM - Re: Update to 701 plans (RURUNY@aol.com)
6. 05:46 PM - Oil temp 701 (Roma L. Skinner)
7. 05:46 PM - Landing Gear Question (The Keeners)
8. 06:14 PM - Re: Landing Gear Question (Aaron)
9. 06:44 PM - Re: Landing Gear Question (Cdngoose)
10. 07:39 PM - Re: Oil temp 701 (Benford2@aol.com)
11. 07:47 PM - Re: Oil temp 701 (Rmtnview@aol.com)
12. 08:10 PM - Re: Landing Gear Question (VideoFlyer@aol.com)
13. 08:48 PM - Which spinner for 701? (scotty scotty)
14. 09:24 PM - Re: Which spinner for 701? (Randy Stout)
15. 10:58 PM - Re: Oil temp 701 (Gary Gower)
16. 11:51 PM - Re: Oil temp 701 (Dabusmith@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Update to 701 plans |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert C. Owens" <bobowens@avlaw.com>
I read where there is a new revision to the 701 drawings, a 11/23/04 4th
revision to the 5th edition of the 701 plans. Is that true and how can I
get it?
I also read that this revision or a new revision is in the works to increase
the GW for the new LSA rule. Is this true?
Bob
Robert C. Owens
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| Subject: | Re: Update to 701 plans |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Why is every looking for a increase in Gross weight to meet LSA? As long as
the gross weight is BELOW 1320 you are o.k. in that department.
Cy Galley
EAA Safety Programs Editor
Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert C. Owens" <bobowens@avlaw.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Update to 701 plans
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert C. Owens" <bobowens@avlaw.com>
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> I read where there is a new revision to the 701 drawings, a 11/23/04 4th
> revision to the 5th edition of the 701 plans. Is that true and how can I
> get it?
>
> I also read that this revision or a new revision is in the works to
increase
> the GW for the new LSA rule. Is this true?
>
> Bob
>
>
> Robert C. Owens
>
> Board Certified in Aviation Law
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> www.avlaw.com
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> atures/www.avlaw.com>
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> Available 24/7 at:
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> AvLaw
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> 6630 SW 50th Terrace
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> Miami, Florida 33155
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| Subject: | Re: Update to 701 plans |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "jnbolding1" <jnbolding1@mail.ev1.net>
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
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>Why is every looking for a increase in Gross weight to meet LSA? As long as
>the gross weight is BELOW 1320 you are o.k. in that department.
I guess to carry more stuff or heavier passengers. If you redesign from 1150 to
1320 you can carry 170# more "stuff". Talked to Sebastian a few min. ago and
straight from the horses mouth " There is work being done to bring the PRODUCTION
701 to market under the LSA rules but it will not effect either the kit
or plans version of that aircraft." There you have it. LOW&SLOW John Bolding
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| Subject: | 912 Engine chosen |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com
Thanks Ken,Dave,and Gary for your thoughts and experience.
Since I live at sea level and will do most of my flying in this area and not in
mountains I will get the 80 hp engine and not the 100. I'ts definately the most
realistic choice for what I'll be doing.
With that decision made I called Warp drive Inc this morning and talked to Daryll
about the change from the 912s to the 912. I received a 70" 3 blade warp drive
prop with my Zenith firewall kit. He said that the blades be cut down to give
an overall 68" diam prop for the 80 hp. The factory will do all 3 blades for
about 30 dollors. He was very familiar with all Zenith models, engine choices,
and prop choices for each. He also noted that all blades are cast at 72" and
tips cut down to specified size.
Here is a link to the price increase warning at a Rotax retailer.This is causing
me to act quick and avoid the higher costs a couple months from now. Thanks
to the guys who tipped the list off to the increase.
http://www.recreationalmobility.com/cgi-bin/recreation/19443.html
Brian Unruh
Long Island
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| Subject: | Re: Update to 701 plans |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com
You have to be registered as a builder on the web site.
Go to the builder pages and you will see links under 701 section.
Brian
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Roma L. Skinner" <roma@airmail.net>
I have 2 hrs on N701LJ and it is running about 130 F oil temp, any ideas on blocking
a portion of the oil cooler to increase the temps, 912s
thanks
Roma Skinner
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| Subject: | Landing Gear Question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "The Keeners" <kim.forest@surewest.net>
Zodiac Builders:
With all of the talk about the recent gear failure, I happened to notice that some
of the XLs have landing gear that appears more round (curved) vs. the more
straight looking gear on the factory XL. Does anyone know why this is? Is there
an "aftermarket" company that sells a BETTER version of the gear for our
XLs?
Thank you!
Forest K.
N601FK - Reserved
Rudder Started
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Gear Question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Aaron" <agustafson@chartermi.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "The Keeners" <kim.forest@surewest.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Landing Gear Question
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "The Keeners" <kim.forest@surewest.net>
>
> Zodiac Builders:
>
> With all of the talk about the recent gear failure, I happened to notice
that some of the XLs have landing gear that appears more round (curved) vs.
the more straight looking gear on the factory XL. Does anyone know why this
is? Is there an "aftermarket" company that sells a BETTER version of the
gear for our XLs?
>
> Thank you!
> Forest K.
> N601FK - Reserved
> Rudder Started
Grove!
Aaron DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Landing Gear Question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
You are most likely referring to the Fiberglass main gear that can be
purchased from Czech aircraft for the 601XL. IT is rounded and a lot
lighter.
Mark Townsend
Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL EJ 2.2L
Osprey 2 serial # 751
www.ch601.org
www.Osprey2.com
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of The Keeners
Subject: Zenith-List: Landing Gear Question
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "The Keeners"
<kim.forest@surewest.net>
Zodiac Builders:
With all of the talk about the recent gear failure, I happened to notice
that some of the XLs have landing gear that appears more round (curved)
vs. the more straight looking gear on the factory XL. Does anyone know
why this is? Is there an "aftermarket" company that sells a BETTER
version of the gear for our XLs?
Thank you!
Forest K.
N601FK - Reserved
Rudder Started
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| Subject: | Re: Oil temp 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
In a message dated 12/23/2004 6:46:57 PM Mountain Standard Time,
roma@airmail.net writes:
>
> I have 2 hrs on N701LJ and it is running about 130 F oil temp, any ideas on
> blocking a portion of the oil cooler to increase the temps, 912s
>
> thanks
> Roma Skinner
>
Geez, 130 ??, I bet you can block the whole thing off.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Oil temp 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rmtnview@aol.com
Not knowing a thing about this engine, I would be leary of blocking anything
cooling until I verified that I had a real problem and not a bad indicator,
(sensor or gage). I would hate to fry an engine because of a bad indicator.
Just my $.02. rog
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Gear Question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: VideoFlyer@aol.com
In a message dated 601xl@sympatico.ca writes:
<<<I happened to notice that some of the XLs have landing gear that appears
more round (curved) vs. the more straight looking gear on the factory XL. >>
<<You are most likely referring to the Fiberglass main gear that can be
purchased from Czech aircraft for the 601XL. IT is rounded and a lot
lighter>>
Any details on how to obtain this gear? And its cost?
Dave Harms
videoflyer@aol.com
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| Subject: | Which spinner for 701? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: scotty scotty <scotty245@yahoo.com>
Is a spinner for the 701 with a Powerfin 3 blade model-F-68" helpful? Will a spinner
help clean up the airflow going into cowling particular for cooling purposes(aircooled
Hirth engine), maybe even help cruise speed one or two MPH, or
just throwing money into the wind? What diameter to use and are the ones from
Aircraft Spruce for approx $100 ok?
Thanks for the posts to my last question.
Scotty
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| Subject: | Re: Which spinner for 701? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Randy Stout <n282rs@earthlink.net>
I had this same prop on my 601 when I had the VW installed. I think the experts
will agree that a spinner is always good. Your CHT will be lower and it will
help streamline the air flow into and round the cowl. The spinner I used was a
12 inch aluminum from Greatplains AS. I can tell you that I think I would have
preferred a slightly smaller spinner (10 inch) as the trailing edge of the
blade were nearly toughing the aft spinner bulkhead. A smaller spinner would have
allowed me to have a bit more pitch in the prop.
Randy Stout
n282rs "at" earthlink.net
www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21
-----Original Message-----
From: scotty scotty <scotty245@yahoo.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Which spinner for 701?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: scotty scotty <scotty245@yahoo.com>
Is a spinner for the 701 with a Powerfin 3 blade model-F-68" helpful? Will a spinner
help clean up the airflow going into cowling particular for cooling purposes(aircooled
Hirth engine), maybe even help cruise speed one or two MPH, or
just throwing money into the wind? What diameter to use and are the ones from
Aircraft Spruce for approx $100 ok?
Thanks for the posts to my last question.
Scotty
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| Subject: | Re: Oil temp 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
The indicator is OK, the main problem with the 912S is geeting the oil hot, then
keeping it in range... we have 1/2 of the rad blocked and here, our winter
is not as cold like your winter season in USA.
One of the Club member installed a accesory, like a pressure termostat, that will
prevent the oil to go to the radiator until has certain temperature (viscosity?)
. I supose is sold by Lockwood (?) he will test it (he bought it :-),
if it works as spected, then we (the rest of the gang) might instal it in our
engines...
Any comments/users in the list?
Saludos
Gary Gower.
701 912S
Guadalajara, Mexico.
"Wearing the leather jacket in the motorcycle"
Rmtnview@aol.com wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rmtnview@aol.com
Not knowing a thing about this engine, I would be leary of blocking anything
cooling until I verified that I had a real problem and not a bad indicator,
(sensor or gage). I would hate to fry an engine because of a bad indicator.
Just my $.02. rog
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| Subject: | Re: Oil temp 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Dabusmith@aol.com
>One of the Club member installed a accesory, like a pressure termostat
I installed the oil thermostat from Lockwood Aviation in mine. I have been
very happy with it.
The warm up time is much shorter.
Dave Smith
N701xl 912s
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