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1. 12:11 AM - Re: Landing Gear Question (Ozarkseller2@aol.com)
2. 03:19 AM - Re: Landing Gear Question (Ozarkseller2@aol.com)
3. 05:53 AM - Re: Landing Gear Question (Cdngoose)
4. 06:38 AM - Re: Oil temp 701 (Dave Austin)
5. 07:11 AM - Re: Oil temp. on 701 of 130oF (John M. Goodings)
6. 07:23 AM - Re: Landing gear question (Brandon Tucker)
7. 07:49 AM - Re: Oil temp 701 (Jack Russell)
8. 08:31 AM - Re: 601 XL Fuel System Photos (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
9. 08:35 AM - Re: Oil temp 701 (Ken Szewc)
10. 08:40 AM - Selling my Corvair Conversion (Charles Mulloy)
11. 08:48 AM - Re: Landing Gear Question ()
12. 08:56 AM - Merry Christmas (Cdngoose)
13. 12:53 PM - Re: Re: Landing gear question (wscribb)
14. 02:21 PM - New home page (Brett)
15. 02:43 PM - Re: New home page (Rmtnview@aol.com)
16. 02:47 PM - Job Security (Rmtnview@aol.com)
17. 05:42 PM - Re: New home page (Ozarkseller2@aol.com)
18. 05:50 PM - Re: New home page (Larry Martin)
19. 09:04 PM - Merry Christmas (Keith Ashcraft)
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Gear Question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Ozarkseller2@aol.com
In a message dated 12/23/2004 8:44:56 P.M. Central Standard Time,
601xl@sympatico.ca writes:
You are most likely referring to the Fiberglass main gear that can be
purchased from Czech aircraft for the 601XL. IT is rounded and a lot
lighter.
When I recently inquired of the factory, they told me the gear was not
available for sale s
separately. Has this policy suddenly changed?
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Gear Question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Ozarkseller2@aol.com
In a message dated 12/23/2004 10:10:39 P.M. Central Standard Time,
VideoFlyer@aol.com writes:
In a message dated 601xl@sympatico.ca writes:
<<more round (curved) vs. the more straight looking gear on the factory XL.
>>
<<You are most likely referring to the Fiberglass main gear that can be
purchased from Czech aircraft for the 601XL. IT is rounded and a lot
lighter>>
Any details on how to obtain this gear? And its cost?
Per my recent inquiry of the factory, they would not sell the gear
separately. Does anyone know of a sudden change in this policy?
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| Subject: | Landing Gear Question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
You will need to contact Chip Erwin directly at Czech aircraft works. He
is a member of this list but seldom would you hear from him if it
involves any type of advertisement of his products. I did inquire awhile
ago about the landing gear and got a cost but I felt I was too far along
with the aluminum gear to change. Plus I had a weird feeling about
composite landing gear and Canadian weather. You can contact Chip
directly from his website at http://www.czaw.cz/ Another thing you may
wish to inquire about is the sport Prop he offers. I hear great things
about it.
Mark Townsend
Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL EJ 2.2L
Osprey 2 serial # 751
www.ch601.org
www.Osprey2.com
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Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Landing Gear Question
--> Zenith-List message posted by: VideoFlyer@aol.com
In a message dated 601xl@sympatico.ca writes:
<<<I happened to notice that some of the XLs have landing gear that
appears
more round (curved) vs. the more straight looking gear on the factory
XL. >>
<<You are most likely referring to the Fiberglass main gear that can be
purchased from Czech aircraft for the 601XL. IT is rounded and a lot
lighter>>
Any details on how to obtain this gear? And its cost?
Dave Harms
videoflyer@aol.com
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| Subject: | Re: Oil temp 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Austin" <daveaustin2@sprint.ca>
Roma,
I use aluminium tape to part or totally cover the cooler, but mine is inside
the cowl.
Dave Austin 601HDS - 912
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| Subject: | Re: Oil temp. on 701 of 130oF |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "John M. Goodings" <goodings@yorku.ca>
I second the advice that you should check the reliability of your
temperature gauge before blocking off the coolant radiator. 130oF sounds
really rather unbelievably low. I have had five faulty gauges, nearly all
of which had to be replaced, and all of which, of course, were out of
warranty. These included the tach for my 912S (Mitchell, read about 2/3
of the correct value, and nearly cost me the engine), a magnetic compass
(Airpath, Southern Field, there was one point where it stuck), an oil
pressure gauge (VDO, it reads 2/3 of the correct value, checked with an
accurate pressure gauge in the line with the engine running; I am living
with this one, because I know it reads 40 psi when the correct value is
60), non-sensitive altimeter (UMA, read 300 feet low), and a 30-0-30
ammeter (VDO, would not centre, but this one was partly my fault). All
were new instruments when installed, although several had been sitting on
a shelf in my (heated) basement for several years (thus, out of warranty).
I am rather ticked about this; it has been expensive. Thus, from my
experience, it is reasonable to suspect a faulty gauge!
John Goodings, C-FGPJ, CH601HD with Rotax 912S, Toronto/Waterloo.
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| Subject: | RE: Landing gear question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
Gents,
Check the archives on this subject. I have
posted quite a bit of information. Chip told me that
he would sell the gear separately, but you are on your
own for installation. It is a 2 piece gear, which
requires some modification to the mounts for
installation. It is significantly lighter - by at
least 40%. Cost is estimated to be around the price
of the Grove aluminum gear at just under $1000. I
don't know anyone who has done this route.
The Grove gear weighs 28lbs, and the price
includes gun drilled oil lines. It is just over half
the metal width as the XL stock gear, so modifications
will be required to the mount (just some spacer blocks
will probably suffice.) You could also bend your own
gear like I did (although for my HDS). If you send me
a private e-mail, I can fill you in on that.
Respectfully,
Brandon
HDS wings, tail done
Fuselage completely clecoed
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| Subject: | Re: Oil temp 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jack Russell <clojan@sbcglobal.net>
Roma: You might want to think about a thermostat on you oil filter. Check out the sandwich adaptors at http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/mocal.htm . I don't know about the rotax but my jabiru dealer installed one on his. I will probably do the same. Jack in Clovis CA
"Roma L. Skinner" <roma@airmail.net> wrote:--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Roma
L. Skinner"
I have 2 hrs on N701LJ and it is running about 130 F oil temp, any ideas on blocking
a portion of the oil cooler to increase the temps, 912s
thanks
Roma Skinner
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| Subject: | 601 XL Fuel System Photos |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
And you Bill...Yes the pump NOT on the firewall is a bonus...Watch out
for doing slips to landing!
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601 XL Fuel System Photos
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Frank, Sorry took a while to respond I was buffing out the paint last
night
till one and just came in tonight. I have two wing tanks; gravity feed
to the
fuel valve, then to the gasolator, then to the electric fuel pump
mounted on
the floor just forward of the rudder doubler bar. Then through the
firewall to
inline filter, then to mech fuel pump, then the carb. Jabiru says to
mount
electric pump inside as to is not to get more than 140 degrees.
Everything up to
the electric pump is inches below the fuel tank exit nipple so gravity
should
do it's magic. Remember the wings are not level, they go up out board
and the
in board exit nipple is almost a foot up wing, four wing ribs worth ? No
plans
for inverted flight anyway. Merry Christmas to you and yours, Bill of
Georgia
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Ken Szewc <szewc@direcway.com>
Easiest - Duct tape is the quickest.
Little work - A ducted butterfly valve will give you some control of
airflow
More work - Lockwood sells an oil temperature regulator for the Rotax
912/912S engine
I am still using duct tape for mine. I plan on putting in the regulator
when I change the cowl (I don't like the ZAC cowl). But that is a future
project.
Ken
N701SZ
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roma L.
Skinner
Subject: Zenith-List: Oil temp 701
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Roma L. Skinner" <roma@airmail.net>
I have 2 hrs on N701LJ and it is running about 130 F oil temp, any ideas
on blocking a portion of the oil cooler to increase the temps, 912s
thanks
Roma Skinner
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| Subject: | Selling my Corvair Conversion |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Charles Mulloy <cdmbam@yahoo.com>
Complete Conversion, New Ross forged pistons, Total
seal rings, Cylinders .020 over, Mains and rods .010
under. New OT-10 Cam, Billet gear with safety ring.
Rods re-bushed and balanced with new ARP rod bolts,
Threaded (drop in crank) by William Wynne. New SS
valves, seats, bronze safety guides, springs, rockers,
pushrods, spacers, keys, lifters, oil pump, filter
bypass valves, dynamic damper all from Clarks. New
top cover from WW, machined aluminum pan from Clarks,
Dual point distributor from WW, Bosch coils & MSD
switch, New front low profile starter with brackets,
John Deere alternator & regulator, Safety shaft,
Hybrid studs, Puck, Ring gear, Alternator pulley &
Prop hub from WW, MA3A carburetor with induction
tubing (not fabricated) and much more. Ignition wires
and alternator bracket needed for instillation (not
included). These items are readily available. I
intended to use this engine in my 601XL but the mount
and cowling were not available at the time so I used
another engine. This is an excellent engine choice if
you are building a 601 or similar type aircraft.
$5000.00 Chuck Mulloy 623 546 1238 cdmbam@yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Gear Question |
Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:47:03 -0600
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <PAULROD36@msn.com>
You are probably talking about the Czech landing gear. It's supposed to be about
28 pounds lighter, and less likely to take a set after a hard landing. That's
the good news. The bad news is, I asked their US distributor, and was told
they won't sell the landing gear separately. When I questioned that, I got back
that they were concerned with "support issues". Like there's so much technical
info you need on a piece of curved fiberglass? Well, it's their company
and they can run it any way they want to, but they are clearly missing out on
some sales.
Paul Rodriguez
601XL-corvair
----- Original Message -----
From: The Keeners<mailto:kim.forest@surewest.net>
To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 7:39 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Landing Gear Question
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "The Keeners" <kim.forest@surewest.net<mailto:kim.forest@surewest.net>>
Zodiac Builders:
With all of the talk about the recent gear failure, I happened to notice that
some of the XLs have landing gear that appears more round (curved) vs. the more
straight looking gear on the factory XL. Does anyone know why this is? Is
there an "aftermarket" company that sells a BETTER version of the gear for our
XLs?
Thank you!
Forest K.
N601FK - Reserved
Rudder Started
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
From Webmasters of the www.ch601.org <http://www.ch601.org/> website
To all on this list Thank-you for an interesting year of conversation,
help and Friendship. May you all have a Merry Christmas; Hopefully Santa
will drop by Aircraft Spruce before visiting your house!
Mark Townsend
Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL EJ 2.2L
Osprey 2 serial # 751
www.ch601.org <http://www.ch601.org/>
www.Osprey2.com <http://www.osprey2.com/>
do not archive
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| Subject: | RE: Landing gear question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "wscribb" <wscribb@centurytel.net>
Hello All,
The spring gear from Robbie at Grove is great. It is 4 1/2 inches wide by
7/8 inch thickness 2024 T3 material, and saves approximately 17 pounds over
the factory designed gear. I have the first Grove XL spring gear, I worked
with Robbie about 18 months ago for this design. I modified the gear
channel and mounts to accept the narrower gear, should have the plane on its
gear before the New Year.
Email me directly if you'd like additional information or pictures of the
gear mount weldment.
V/R
Bill Cribb
601XL from plans
About 75% finished
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Tucker
Subject: Zenith-List: RE: Landing gear question
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
Gents,
Check the archives on this subject. I have posted quite a bit of
information. Chip told me that he would sell the gear separately, but you
are on your own for installation. It is a 2 piece gear, which requires some
modification to the mounts for installation. It is significantly lighter -
by at least 40%. Cost is estimated to be around the price of the Grove
aluminum gear at just under $1000. I don't know anyone who has done this
route.
The Grove gear weighs 28lbs, and the price includes gun drilled oil
lines. It is just over half the metal width as the XL stock gear, so
modifications will be required to the mount (just some spacer blocks will
probably suffice.) You could also bend your own gear like I did (although
for my HDS). If you send me a private e-mail, I can fill you in on that.
Respectfully,
Brandon
HDS wings, tail done
Fuselage completely clecoed
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brett " <brett@hog-air.com>
I was sitting here playing on the computer and did a new home page.
I just wanted to see what you guys think. Does it play alright? Does it
load to slow?
Just having some fun.
Thanks
Brett Ray
www.hog-air.com
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| Subject: | Re: New home page |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rmtnview@aol.com
That's cool Brett. Bright, uncluttered, easy on the eyes. Loaded just fine
on my pewter. Good job. I saw your engine running at SnF this spring.
Impressive.
rog
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rmtnview@aol.com
NOBODY, I mean NOBODY, has job security anymore. I just saw a close up
of Santa's instrument panel on NORAD'S Santa Tracker and THERE, right
THERE, was a GPS unit. Poor ol Rudolf. Anybody need a flashing light
for their left wing? What's the world coming to? I'm just sick. Sick,
sick, sick. Wait a minute.........my wife is shaking her head.....in
agreement. She doesn't need a red light, silly woman.
MERRY KISS MOOSE AND HAPPY NEW GEAR.
rog
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| Subject: | Re: New home page |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Ozarkseller2@aol.com
In a message dated 12/24/2004 4:21:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,
brett@hog-air.com writes:
I was sitting here playing on the computer and did a new home page.
I just wanted to see what you guys think. Does it play alright? Does it
load to slow?
Loads and plays fine, just like the much the same old page.
-Robin of AR, 601XL in progress, Wynne-Vair 2900 power, N601ZV reserved.
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| Subject: | Re: New home page |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <lrm@isp.com>
Your site seems to work real good. I wish you had been doing the Hog thing
in a 701 before I got too deep to change directions. Maybe my next one.
Larry N1345L
Do not Archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brett " <brett@hog-air.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: New home page
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brett " <brett@hog-air.com>
>
> I was sitting here playing on the computer and did a new home page.
> I just wanted to see what you guys think. Does it play alright? Does it
> load to slow?
> Just having some fun.
>
> Thanks
> Brett Ray
> www.hog-air.com
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Keith Ashcraft <keith.ashcraft@itt.com>
Hello All,
Well just last night I did a Density Altitude check, and with the -18
degrees, Baro setting, my 9,100' field elevation turned into a 4,650'
field elevation. Too bad it can't be like that all the time, but it
helps Santa on take-offs.
Well, from the Snowy Rocky Mountains of Colorado,
*MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOOD FLIGHT !!!
*Keith
CH701 -- still building everything
N 38.9947
W 105.1305
Alt. 9,100'
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