Zenith-List Digest Archive

Mon 12/27/04


Total Messages Posted: 14



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     1. 07:25 AM - Re: Re: 6061 in Canada (Dave & Darlene)
     2. 07:25 AM - Re: GPS (louiscfi@comcast.net)
     3. 07:49 AM - Re: GPS (Jack Russell)
     4. 07:56 AM - Re: GPS (Ray Montagne)
     5. 08:21 AM - Re: GPS (Rick)
     6. 08:21 AM - Re: GPS (Don WALKER)
     7. 09:04 AM - Re: Re: 6061 in Canada (Carlos Sa)
     8. 09:29 AM - Re: Re: 6061 in Canada (Bill Cardell)
     9. 09:56 AM - Re: GPS (Bob Black)
    10. 04:22 PM - Re: GPS (Brandon Tucker)
    11. 06:56 PM - 701SP Kit For Sale (Bohannon Larry)
    12. 07:10 PM - Re: Re: 6061 in Canada (Dave & Darlene)
    13. 07:12 PM - Re: Re: 6061 in Canada (Dave & Darlene)
    14. 07:49 PM - List members (Cdngoose)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:25:01 AM PST US
    From: "Dave & Darlene" <dnimigon@telusplanet.net>
    Subject: Re: 6061 in Canada
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave & Darlene" <dnimigon@telusplanet.net> Hi Jarek I looked into Integris out here in Calgary. They used to carry a few sizes but now only carry .025 in 6061. Edmonton has the extruded angle. Minimum order of $500. They have lots of 2024 as they supply the aircraft industry. really expensive on the 2024. I also looked into buying from Yard Metals in the US. Their cost is per pound. Will ship and have every size. Prices I got were good I thought even with the exchange. I plan on placing an order as soon as the holidays are over. David Nimigon 601XL Alberta 99% to go ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jarek M. Walter" <jarek.walter@sympatico.ca> Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 6061 in Canada > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jarek M. Walter" > <jarek.walter@sympatico.ca> > > Has anyone bought from www.integrismetals.com? They seems to have > branches > across Canada. > Regards, Jarek > > >


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    Time: 07:25:01 AM PST US
    From: louiscfi@comcast.net
    Subject: re: GPS
    0.50 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam tool pattern in MIME boundary 0.01 RCVD_DOUBLE_IP_LOOSE Received: by and from look like IP addresses --> Zenith-List message posted by: louiscfi@comcast.net Bob, I planned on using one of these in my airplane until I played w/ it at sun n fun. What a disappointment. The screen was very slow to reload. The movement through all of the menus was not very intuitive. It was like I had to push a million buttons just to go direct. You may disagree, and it may work well for you, so maybe you should try one before you buy. For about the same price you could buy a brand new color gps like the lowrance 2000c. It has a big 5" color screen, and will soon include a terrain database. It is only $1000. Check out my website and click on the possible gps's on the homepage. Keep in mind I have never used these gps's myself, but we are nearing the time to test these gps's. So soon I will have personal experience w/ these. -- Louis 601xl, corvair pwr j-41 capt CFII SMEL http://www.N601LV.com Bob, I planned on using one of these in my airplane until I played w/ it at sun n fun. What a disappointment. The screen was very slow to reload. The movement through all of the menus was not very intuitive. It was like I had to push a million buttons just to go direct. You may disagree, and it may work well for you, so maybe you should try one before you buy. For about the same price you could buy a brand new color gps like the lowrance 2000c. It has a big 5" colorscreen, and will soon include a terrain database. It is only $1000. Check out my website and click on the possible gps's on the homepage. Keep in mind I have never used these gps's myself, but we are nearing the time to test these gps's. So soon I will have personal experience w/ these. -- Louis 601xl, corvair pwr j-41 capt CFII SMEL http://www.N601LV.com


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    Time: 07:49:19 AM PST US
    From: Jack Russell <clojan@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: GPS
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Jack Russell <clojan@sbcglobal.net> Bob: I am just about ready to cut the first hole in my panel. I just bought the lowrance 2000c air map which will take up residence in the center of my panel. What an inprovement over my old garmin89. The screen is color and huge! When I first turned it on, it found itself in less than 1minute. I love the split map feature. I was a little worried about the depth of the unit on my panel but the way they designed the case I will be able to build it into the panel and only about 3\4 inch will stick out. It will look like a panel mount. I will post pictures when done. The only drawback is that it is battery hungry and they only last 2 hrs. Ok for me because I will hard wire 12v but could be a problem for a renter. Jack in Clovis Ca Bob Black <black@usa.sh> wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Black" There's a newer model GPS for sale on ebay. The bids look pretty low. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem &item=4513914376 Has anyone used one of these? Bob Black


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    Time: 07:56:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: GPS
    From: Ray Montagne <ac6qj@earthlink.net>
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Ray Montagne <ac6qj@earthlink.net> On 12/27/04 7:48 AM, "Jack Russell" <clojan@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > There's a newer model GPS for sale on ebay. The bids look pretty low. Folks, Seems to me that all of the ebay announcements are beyond the intended scope of this list. I hope that announcements of tygo tubing, pitot heads, brake calipers, etc. are not forthcoming... Ray Montagne Cupertino, CA 601XL


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    Time: 08:21:00 AM PST US
    From: Rick <n701rr@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: GPS
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick <n701rr@yahoo.com> I'm about ready to put my Garmin 196 on Ebay and go with the Lowrance Airmap 2000c as well. Thoughts?? DO NOTARCHIVE. Rick Orlando, FL http://www.geocities.com/n701rr/index.html --------------------------------- Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good.


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    Time: 08:21:10 AM PST US
    From: "Don WALKER" <d3dw@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: GPS
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don WALKER" <d3dw@msn.com> Thanks for monitoring the list Ray. You are probably right, though I like to know about good deals. By the way, in the future would you mind writng DO NOT ARCHIVE on your criticisms. They are probably less worthy of storage space than the GPS messages in my opinion. Don Walker HDS >From: Ray Montagne <ac6qj@earthlink.net> >Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com >To: Zenith List <zenith-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: GPS >Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 07:55:51 -0800 > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: Ray Montagne <ac6qj@earthlink.net> > >On 12/27/04 7:48 AM, "Jack Russell" <clojan@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > There's a newer model GPS for sale on ebay. The bids look pretty low. > >Folks, > >Seems to me that all of the ebay announcements are beyond the intended >scope >of this list. I hope that announcements of tygo tubing, pitot heads, brake >calipers, etc. are not forthcoming... > >Ray Montagne >Cupertino, CA >601XL > >


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    Time: 09:04:12 AM PST US
    From: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: 6061 in Canada
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com> David, a reminder: UPS fees (brokerage and / or whatever else) are a rip-off. You might want to give them (or whatever transportation co. you use) a call before ordering. Your supplier in the US is not necessarily aware of these fees. Carlos Montreal, Canada do not archive --- Dave & Darlene <dnimigon@telusplanet.net> wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave & Darlene" <dnimigon@telusplanet.net> > > Hi Jarek > I looked into Integris out here in Calgary. They used to carry a few sizes > but now only carry .025 in 6061. Edmonton has the extruded angle. Minimum > order of $500. They have lots of 2024 as they supply the aircraft industry. > really expensive on the 2024. I also looked into buying from Yard Metals in > the US. Their cost is per pound. Will ship and have every size. Prices I got > were good I thought even with the exchange. I plan on placing an order as > soon as the holidays are over. > > David Nimigon > 601XL > Alberta > 99% to go


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    Time: 09:29:25 AM PST US
    From: Bill Cardell <bill@flyinmiata.com>
    Subject: Re: 6061 in Canada
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bill Cardell <bill@flyinmiata.com> Don't know if this info might be useful, but if you do use UPS going to Canada, it's often more cost effective to use expedited or express, rather than ground service. Expedited and express both have the brokerage fees built in, as opposed to UPS nailing you extra when you use ground. You'll still pay the actual taxes, but you'll know that there won't be additional fees for brokerage. Just a thought. Do not archive. -----Original Message----- From: Carlos Sa [mailto:carlosfsa@yahoo.com] Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 6061 in Canada --> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com> David, a reminder: UPS fees (brokerage and / or whatever else) are a rip-off. You might want to give them (or whatever transportation co. you use) a call before ordering. Your supplier in the US is not necessarily aware of these fees. Carlos Montreal, Canada do not archive


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    Time: 09:56:36 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Black" <black@usa.sh>
    Subject: GPS
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Black" <black@usa.sh> Thanks Jack, I was considering a bid on this, but I hadn't considered the Lawrence. I did get a couple off-list comments about promoting products. It seems those folks didn't get the point that I was asking a question. So far, you are the only person who got the point and has been helpful. Thanks again. Do not archive. Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack Russell Subject: Re: Zenith-List: GPS --> Zenith-List message posted by: Jack Russell <clojan@sbcglobal.net> Bob: I am just about ready to cut the first hole in my panel. I just bought the lowrance 2000c air map which will take up residence in the center of my panel. What an inprovement over my old garmin89. The screen is color and huge! When I first turned it on, it found itself in less than 1minute. I love the split map feature. I was a little worried about the depth of the unit on my panel but the way they designed the case I will be able to build it into the panel and only about 3\4 inch will stick out. It will look like a panel mount. I will post pictures when done. The only drawback is that it is battery hungry and they only last 2 hrs. Ok for me because I will hard wire 12v but could be a problem for a renter. Jack in Clovis Ca Bob Black <black@usa.sh> wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Black" There's a newer model GPS for sale on ebay. The bids look pretty low. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem &item=4513914376 Has anyone used one of these? Bob Black


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    Time: 04:22:19 PM PST US
    From: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
    Subject: RE: GPS
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com> Gents, I bought the Lowrance airmap 1000 a few months ago, and I like it a lot. It is the same unit as the 2000c, but B&W. -Very easy to use, and I got it on sale for $650. I plan to panel mount it next to the Stratomaster Ultra. The support software leaves a little to be desired, but works fine for simple flight planning. Respectfully, Brandon HDS Dissasembling the fuse to deburr and primer DO NOT ARCHIVE __________________________________ http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250


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    Time: 06:56:52 PM PST US
    From: "Bohannon Larry" <bohannon54@earthlink.net>
    Subject: 701SP Kit For Sale
    0.50 MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART Spam tool pattern in MIME boundary --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bohannon Larry" <bohannon54@earthlink.net> I have decided to sell my almost completed 701SP kit. I bought the kit on Jan.31, 2003 at the factory workshop. I have about 1000 hrs. work in it already and because of other committments that have come up lately won't be able to dedicate the necessary time needed to finish it. I have really enjoyed working on it have proceed at a slow and carefull pace and I believe, good workmanship. So it's in my garage/workshop and the wife is wanting the garage back for our cars. All of the major parts are done. The tailfeathers with electric trim, both wings with strobe/nav, flaperons, rear fuselage, cabin area and firewall are all completed. Left to finish is joining the cabin to the rear fuselage and putting in the main landing gear and also the slats need to be built. I went ahead and bought the motor mount for 912s to use while building the firewall. I also have already installed a BRS chute in the baggage compartment. I will consider delivering up to about 800 miles from Atlanta , Georgia. I paid $14,091.05 for the complete Kit, $493.00 for the motor mount, $3,361.43 for the BRS chute, and $998.17 for misc. tools,rivets,access plates, wiring,extra L angles, etc.etc. Zenith air riveter and tools included along with builders log with photos during construction. Also included are bound copies of Zenair News from 1985-Present. I have $18,943.65 ++ in the project. Make an offer. I plan on putting an ad in my local EAA 690 Chapter newsletter and also in Barnstormers and maybe E-Bay later. Can anybody suggest any other places I could list it for sale? Regards, Larry Bohannon Winder, Georgia Bohannon Larry bohannon54@earthlink.net


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    Time: 07:10:10 PM PST US
    From: "Dave & Darlene" <dnimigon@telusplanet.net>
    Subject: Re: 6061 in Canada
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave & Darlene" <dnimigon@telusplanet.net> Hi Carlos I did check into shipping from a company in Edmonton. Told them where it was and said it was probably a 4x12 pallet. They told me it would be $160USD to bring it up here. Not sure about all the other junk, brokerage fees,duty, etc. How can a guy find out all of this. Maybe someone on the list has done this and can let us know. I'd maybe like to find out before I place the order and then find out it will cost a fortune to get it here. Dave Alberta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlos Sa" <carlosfsa@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 6061 in Canada > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com> > > David, a reminder: UPS fees (brokerage and / or whatever else) are a > rip-off. > You might want to give them (or whatever transportation co. you use) a > call before ordering. > Your supplier in the US is not necessarily aware of these fees. > > Carlos > Montreal, Canada > do not archive > > > --- Dave & Darlene <dnimigon@telusplanet.net> wrote: >> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave & Darlene" >> <dnimigon@telusplanet.net> >> >> Hi Jarek >> I looked into Integris out here in Calgary. They used to carry a few >> sizes >> but now only carry .025 in 6061. Edmonton has the extruded angle. Minimum >> order of $500. They have lots of 2024 as they supply the aircraft >> industry. >> really expensive on the 2024. I also looked into buying from Yard Metals >> in >> the US. Their cost is per pound. Will ship and have every size. Prices I >> got >> were good I thought even with the exchange. I plan on placing an order as >> soon as the holidays are over. >> >> David Nimigon >> 601XL >> Alberta >> 99% to go > > >


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    Time: 07:12:54 PM PST US
    From: "Dave & Darlene" <dnimigon@telusplanet.net>
    Subject: Re: 6061 in Canada
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave & Darlene" <dnimigon@telusplanet.net> Another thought would be to get one of the US builders that are close to the Alberta border to have the shipment sent to his place. I would then take a drive to get it. We could re-wrap it or something and then bring it across as used metal. Not sure if this would work or not. Dave Alberta DO NOT Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Cardell" <bill@flyinmiata.com> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: 6061 in Canada > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bill Cardell <bill@flyinmiata.com> > > Don't know if this info might be useful, but if you do use UPS going to > Canada, it's often more cost effective to use expedited or express, rather > than ground service. Expedited and express both have the brokerage fees > built in, as opposed to UPS nailing you extra when you use ground. You'll > still pay the actual taxes, but you'll know that there won't be additional > fees for brokerage. Just a thought. > > Do not archive. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carlos Sa [mailto:carlosfsa@yahoo.com] > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 6061 in Canada > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com> > > David, a reminder: UPS fees (brokerage and / or whatever else) are a > rip-off. You might want to give them (or whatever transportation co. you > use) a call before ordering. > Your supplier in the US is not necessarily aware of these fees. > > Carlos > Montreal, Canada > do not archive > > >


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    Time: 07:49:26 PM PST US
    From: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
    Subject: List members
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca> I would like to ask if a 601 kit builder would mind spending a bit of time and doing an Inventory of there hardware kit that they get with the plane and sending me a copy of the inventory list so that I may add it to the www.ch601.org website to help all of the plans builders. I already have a materials and cutting list. It is almost an impossible task to make up a hardware list by going through the plans alone. For you 701 builders does anyone have a cutting list for materials? Thanks Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario Zodiac 601XL EJ 2.2L Osprey 2 serial # 751 www.ch601.org www.Osprey2.com do not archive




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