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1. 01:24 AM - Brokerage fees? (Howard Carter)
2. 06:55 AM - Re: Brokerage fees? (Daniel Pelletier)
3. 07:23 AM - Re: Brokerage fees? (Trevor Page)
4. 07:31 AM - Re: brokerage fees / Canada (Carlos Sa)
5. 07:31 AM - Re: Zodiac crash at PAE (Bob Miller)
6. 08:08 AM - hardware request from mark (Jack Russell)
7. 08:11 AM - firewall forward kit for ch 701 (Mark Eagar)
8. 08:17 AM - CH-642 4-seat twin [hypothetical] (Ihab Awad)
9. 08:35 AM - Re: CH-642 4-seat twin [hypothetical] (Carlos Sa)
10. 08:36 AM - Re: Brokerage fees? (Dan Knezacek)
11. 08:58 AM - Re: CH-642 4-seat twin [hypothetical] (Crvsecretary@aol.com)
12. 09:51 AM - firewall forward kit for ch 701 (RURUNY@aol.com)
13. 09:57 AM - Re: Zodiac crash at PAE (George Swinford)
14. 10:20 AM - Re: Zodiac crash at PAE (Sigmo@aol.com)
15. 10:48 AM - Re: CH-642 4-seat twin [hypothetical] (Bryan Martin)
16. 12:45 PM - Re: 6061 in Canada (Jarek M. Walter)
17. 12:47 PM - Re: Brokerage fees? (Mike Fothergill)
18. 12:53 PM - Brake Master Cylinders ()
19. 01:39 PM - Re: CH-642 4-seat twin [hypothetical] (Ihab Awad)
20. 01:51 PM - Re: hardware request from mark (Cdngoose)
21. 02:13 PM - Re: Brokerage fees? (Howard Carter)
22. 02:50 PM - Re: firewall forward kit for ch 701 (Mark Eagar)
23. 04:33 PM - Re: Brake Master Cylinders (Mike Fothergill)
24. 10:55 PM - materials list for the 601HD (Ron)
25. 11:46 PM - Re: Brokerage fees? Out of theme only once, Do not archive (Gary Gower)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Howard Carter <howado@cwia.com>
I thought that Canada and the US have a free trade agreement, so why is
a broker necessary, since Customs should not be involved? Could someone
explain what's going on here?
Howard Carter
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Daniel Pelletier" <pelletie1@hotmail.com>
Yes there's a free trade agreement but...
That's mean that there is no fees add to the price as a penalty right to
enter in Canada but, Canada and province want collect "sales taxes" on
american products and in Quebec it's 7,5% for GST and 7% for QST, It's the
reason why there's need for a custom process to collect taxes. It's the
broker's job and it's not free...
I think also that the broker insure that goods importation are in line with
the laws and regulation. They get a waiver from customs for the goods.
Daniel Pelletier
>From: Howard Carter <howado@cwia.com>
>Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Brokerage fees?
>Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 01:21:32 -0800
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Howard Carter <howado@cwia.com>
>
>I thought that Canada and the US have a free trade agreement, so why is
>a broker necessary, since Customs should not be involved? Could someone
>explain what's going on here?
>Howard Carter
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Brokerage fees? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page <webmaster@upac.ca>
You would be correct on your assessment. When the duties were dropped
the gov. decided to collect taxes on each and every item imported
instead.
I'd really like to know from the US readers what they encounter at
their border when they bring stuff in from Canada (if they even need
to...)
The problem however is the disparity in pricing for such "services".
UPS charges the brokerage fee based on the declared or insured value
(whichever is greatest) of the item being imported. I've never seen UPS
charge less than $37 Canadian for such a "service". Gets real expensive
when your item is worth just a few dollars.
UPS's brokerage system is extortion, plain and simple and they should
be taken to task with the BBB.
Canada Post on the other hand charges a flat $5 fee for the same thing,
regardless of item value. So you tell me, which is more reasonable??
I use the postal system whenever I can. I detest UPS.
Trevor Page
601HD, 98.8% complete
On Dec 28, 2004, at 9:53 AM, Daniel Pelletier wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Daniel Pelletier"
> <pelletie1@hotmail.com>
>
> Yes there's a free trade agreement but...
>
> That's mean that there is no fees add to the price as a penalty right
> to
> enter in Canada but, Canada and province want collect "sales taxes" on
> american products and in Quebec it's 7,5% for GST and 7% for QST, It's
> the
> reason why there's need for a custom process to collect taxes. It's
> the
> broker's job and it's not free...
>
> I think also that the broker insure that goods importation are in line
> with
> the laws and regulation. They get a waiver from customs for the goods.
>
> Daniel Pelletier
>
>> From: Howard Carter <howado@cwia.com>
>> Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Zenith-List: Brokerage fees?
>> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 01:21:32 -0800
>>
>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Howard Carter <howado@cwia.com>
>>
>> I thought that Canada and the US have a free trade agreement, so why
>> is
>> a broker necessary, since Customs should not be involved? Could
>> someone
>> explain what's going on here?
>> Howard Carter
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: brokerage fees / Canada |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
I learnt about the brokerage fee the hard way: ordered some material from the US,
which was
shipped via UPS. A few days later I received an invoice from UPS. Actually, it
started with the
plans, which I bought second hand. See some examples below (all CDN$):
Plans: $375 UPS: 62.65
Aircraft S. S.:$ 841.91 UPS: 83.89
US Ind. tool & supply: $116.48 UPS: 41.97
I should have learned from the first event, but apparently I forgot. The third
event (US tools)
happened because I gave instructions on the phone, and the person on the other
side didn't get it
(I'm otherwise very happy with US Tools, good company to work with).
The transporting company is the one that charges you this fee. I have avoided it
by asking for
regular mail shipping. Note that thus far I haven't had any bulky items shipped
by regular mail,
so I don't know if they have a limit (size, weight). I buy the aluminum (sheets,
extrusions)
locally from:
Andr Letourneau
http://membres.lycos.fr/aerosportif/letourneau.htm
and
Mtaux Solutions
http://www.metauxsolutions.com/
Carlos
--- Dave & Darlene <dnimigon@telusplanet.net> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave & Darlene" <dnimigon@telusplanet.net>
>
> Hi Carlos
> I did check into shipping from a company in Edmonton. Told them where it was
> and said it was probably a 4x12 pallet. They told me it would be $160USD to
> bring it up here. Not sure about all the other junk, brokerage fees,duty,
> etc. How can a guy find out all of this. Maybe someone on the list has done
> this and can let us know. I'd maybe like to find out before I place the
> order and then find out it will cost a fortune to get it here.
> Dave
> Alberta
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| Subject: | Re: Zodiac crash at PAE |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" <drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
Mike,
I haven't seen any posts responding to your question about the crash.
Google wasn't any help, so am wondering if you've learned any more. I
agree that it's important we keep up with these things. The discussion
following the last tragic loss of a Zodiac on the first flight inspired me
to recheck and subsequently rebuild a couple of my fairleads. That may not
have been the cause of the crash, but the discussion may have prevented one
or more.
Bob Miller
----- Original Message -----
From: <Sigmo@aol.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Zodiac crash at PAE
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Sigmo@aol.com
>
> Does anyone know who's Zodiac crashed at Paine field (PAE) in Everett or
> what
> happened?
> The local papers are, as usual, very vague.
>
> Mike Sigman
> 601XL
>
>
>
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| Subject: | hardware request from mark |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jack Russell <clojan@sbcglobal.net>
Mark: did you get a response to your request. If not I will scan the inventory
sheet on top of the 601 hardware kit and send to you. Jack in clovis ca
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Cdngoose <601xl@sympatico.ca> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
I would like to ask if a 601 kit builder would mind spending a bit of
time and doing an Inventory of there hardware kit that they get with the
plane and sending me a copy of the inventory list so that I may add it
to the www.ch601.org website to help all of the plans builders. I
already have a materials and cutting list. It is almost an impossible
task to make up a hardware list by going through the plans alone.
Jack Russell -Clovis CA
601 XL Jabiru 3300
Progress update at:
http://www.geocities.com/clojan@sbcglobal.net/zodiacbarn.html
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| Subject: | firewall forward kit for ch 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mark Eagar" <mark.eagar@prodigy.net>
hi, I am new to the board, just started building a ch 701 from kit (tail section
complete, awaiting fuselage), and have been researching firewall forward choices.
Both Zenith and Skyshop (US representatives of Czech Aircraft Works) offer
such kits, and I was wondering if anyone had experience, opinions, etc. about
on or the other. the skyshop kit is supposed to increase cruise speed to
105 mph, but all the parts are coming from overseas, so I don't know what kind
of quality they might be. your help would be much appreciated.
thanks
Mark Eagar
El Dorado Hills, Ca
ch 701 5% complete
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| Subject: | CH-642 4-seat twin [hypothetical] |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Ihab Awad <ihab.awad@gmail.com>
Hi folks,
Perhaps as a result of holiday beverages and food, and maybe because I
just saw "The Aviator" at a local movie theater yesterday, I would
like to suggest that Chris Heintz design a twin version of the CH-640,
which I am hypothetically naming the CH-642.
The twin would include the tailwheel configuration and retractable
mains of the CH-620 Gemini, but would be a 4-seater, thus giving the
ultimate in safe family touring in a "personal DC-3". I would like it
to have a low stall speed, strong gear and the possibility of large
main gear tires, to provide unimproved field versatility.
Happy new year everyone. Regards and peace,
Ihab
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| Subject: | Re: CH-642 4-seat twin [hypothetical] |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Ihab, interesting idea. ZAC is already working on a two-seater twin, but it has
been in the back
burner for a while...
http://www.zenithair.com/gemini/index.html
Now, additional food for dreaming - this engine would be a good fit for a "personal
DC-3",
wouldn't it:
http://hciaviation.com/prod-r220-a.shtml
Happy New Year to all
Carlos
do not archive
--- Ihab Awad <ihab.awad@gmail.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Ihab Awad <ihab.awad@gmail.com>
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Perhaps as a result of holiday beverages and food, and maybe because I
> just saw "The Aviator" at a local movie theater yesterday, I would
> like to suggest that Chris Heintz design a twin version of the CH-640,
> which I am hypothetically naming the CH-642.
>
> The twin would include the tailwheel configuration and retractable
> mains of the CH-620 Gemini, but would be a 4-seater, thus giving the
> ultimate in safe family touring in a "personal DC-3". I would like it
> to have a low stall speed, strong gear and the possibility of large
> main gear tires, to provide unimproved field versatility.
>
> Happy new year everyone. Regards and peace,
>
> Ihab
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| Subject: | Re: Brokerage fees? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
I find that it's always cheaper to use US Post to ship to Canada. I get
charged the sales tax but no brokerage fees.
ACS defaults to UPS which is a pain if I forget to ask for US Post. UPS is
the most expensive way to ship across the border, though it's often a bit
faster (though not always).
Dan
601 HD EA81 soob
>
> Yes there's a free trade agreement but...
>
> That's mean that there is no fees add to the price as a penalty right to
> enter in Canada but, Canada and province want collect "sales taxes" on
> american products and in Quebec it's 7,5% for GST and 7% for QST, It's the
> reason why there's need for a custom process to collect taxes. It's the
> broker's job and it's not free...
>
> I think also that the broker insure that goods importation are in line
> with
> the laws and regulation. They get a waiver from customs for the goods.
>
> Daniel Pelletier
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| Subject: | Re: CH-642 4-seat twin [hypothetical] |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Crvsecretary@aol.com
Hello Carlos:
As I remember in a recent issue of Kitplanes where Chris Heinz was
interviewed, the Gemini project is stalled (indefinitely?) for lack of a
full-feathering propeller for use on the Jabaru engine. The drag from a stationary
propeller in single-engine flight makes the plane a slug.
Don't expect the Gemini to become reality anytime soon.
Great looking radial !! Not cheap, though Does anyone have a radial in a
601 series ?
Interesting that they need 5 cylinders to get 75 hp. where the Harley from
Hog-Air gets 108 out of two. I know I'm comparing apples and oranges, but
given the two, I'd lean toward the HD.
Regards,
Tracy
601XL
tail 85%
do not archive
In a message dated 12/28/2004 11:35:50 AM Eastern Standard Time,
carlosfsa@yahoo.com writes:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Ihab, interesting idea. ZAC is already working on a two-seater twin, but it
has been in the back
burner for a while...
http://www.zenithair.com/gemini/index.html
Now, additional food for dreaming - this engine would be a good fit for a
"personal DC-3",
wouldn't it:
http://hciaviation.com/prod-r220-a.shtml
Happy New Year to all
Carlos
do not archive
--- Ihab Awad <ihab.awad@gmail.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Ihab Awad <ihab.awad@gmail.com>
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Perhaps as a result of holiday beverages and food, and maybe because I
> just saw "The Aviator" at a local movie theater yesterday, I would
> like to suggest that Chris Heintz design a twin version of the CH-640,
> which I am hypothetically naming the CH-642.
>
> The twin would include the tailwheel configuration and retractable
> mains of the CH-620 Gemini, but would be a 4-seater, thus giving the
> ultimate in safe family touring in a "personal DC-3". I would like it
> to have a low stall speed, strong gear and the possibility of large
> main gear tires, to provide unimproved field versatility.
>
> Happy new year everyone. Regards and peace,
>
> Ihab
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| Subject: | firewall forward kit for ch 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com
Mark,
I have the Zenith firewall kit for the 912s and just ordered my engine last
week(912) . I have also looked very closely at the firewall fwd installation
on a Skyshops (Czech) amphibian 701 at Oshkosh this year. They do a few things
on those aircraft, different from the kit that I think are plain better than
the kit. Some of those things you can do yourself easily and Zenith provided
with my kit plenty of scrap sheet of varying thicknesses to do them. With
respect to the firewall, the parts quality look the same high quality on both.
The Skyshops installation does have a few extras such as a higher quality
cowling that is larger to allow room for the 912 airbox using side naca scoops
w/filters for air intake to the carbs(105mph). Zenith provides 2 air filters
that directly hook up to the carbs, no airbox, so carbs will be sucking warm
air all the time. No carb heat needed but lower engine performance. Skyshops
provides a gascolator with a drain at the firewall( aluminum box) where
Zenith does not provide any instruction or parts for firewall penetration of fuel
line. The Skyshops oil sump mount is a better design than Zeniths, especially
if you have cabin heat, it allows you to mount the components in a more
sensible location. The props in each are different. Price for Zeniths is
3,672.00 for Skyshops is 4,450.00 US. I have heard nothing but good about Skyshops
and the way they do business. I have though been turned away on individual
parts purchase such as the oil sump mount. They said they are only selling the
whole firewall fwd kit as a response. I'm sure if you buy the whole fwf kit
you will be able at that point to buy individual parts for that fwf kit if
necessary. I can say for "sure" if you ever need parts for the Zenith fwf, you
can call and get them within a few days. Talk to both and do your research.
Sorry for rambling on.
Brian Unruh
Long Island
_http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/bunruh/_
(http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/bunruh/)
the skyshop kit is supposed to increase cruise speed to
105 mph, but all the parts are coming from overseas, so I don't know what
kind
of quality they might be. your help would be much appreciated.
thanks
Mark Eagar
El Dorado Hills, Ca
ch 701 5% complete
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| Subject: | Re: Zodiac crash at PAE |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "George Swinford" <grs-pms@comcast.net>
Bob:
The 601HDS accident at PAE occurred on a touch and go. Pilot reported an
uncontrollable roll on lift off. It may have been due to turbulence from a
heavy jet that took off a few minutes earlier. Plane badly damaged, but may
be rebuildable. No serious injury. The builder/pilot is on the list, so
further information would be up to him.
George
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Miller" <drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zodiac crash at PAE
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller"
<drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
>
> Mike,
> I haven't seen any posts responding to your question about the crash.
> Google wasn't any help, so am wondering if you've learned any more. I
> agree that it's important we keep up with these things. The discussion
> following the last tragic loss of a Zodiac on the first flight inspired me
> to recheck and subsequently rebuild a couple of my fairleads. That may
not
> have been the cause of the crash, but the discussion may have prevented
one
> or more.
> Bob Miller
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Sigmo@aol.com>
> To: <Zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Zenith-List: Zodiac crash at PAE
>
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Sigmo@aol.com
> >
> > Does anyone know who's Zodiac crashed at Paine field (PAE) in Everett or
> > what
> > happened?
> > The local papers are, as usual, very vague.
> >
> > Mike Sigman
> > 601XL
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Zodiac crash at PAE |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Sigmo@aol.com
Bob,
I was told by another reader that this was Joe Breit and that he had been
caught in the wake of a heavy that had departed shortly before he took off. I was
told that he was OK but the aircraft was badly damaged.I havn't heard if he
was going to rebuild.
Mike Sigman
N7092N
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| Subject: | Re: CH-642 4-seat twin [hypothetical] |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
on 12/28/04 11:57 AM, Crvsecretary@aol.com at Crvsecretary@aol.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Crvsecretary@aol.com
>
>
> Hello Carlos:
>
> Interesting that they need 5 cylinders to get 75 hp. where the Harley from
> Hog-Air gets 108 out of two. I know I'm comparing apples and oranges, but
> given the two, I'd lean toward the HD.
>
5 cylinders should be a lot smoother running though.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
In Phase I testing.
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| Subject: | Re: 6061 in Canada |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jarek M. Walter" <jarek.walter@sympatico.ca>
With regard of getting 6061 from Yarde (US) to Canada:
I've done it in December 2003 and my experience was extremly positive. After
investigating cost of the shipment myself, directly with trucking companies,
I've let Yarde arrange the shipment to Toronto, since they were able to get
a special rate. Yarde has a very good tracking web system. As soon as
shipment was loaded, I was able to log on with the customer number (Yarde
assigns one to you after placing the order), and track my metal as it was
moving throught US, border and in Canada (it was done with the trucking
company web site). With the customer number, you can also browse the
shipping bill and mill certificates for the every item in the shipment. I
instructed the trucking company to bring the shipment to theirs depot, where
there is a custom office. I'm assuming that every bigger city has such a
facility. Then I went over there with my 4x10 trailer, paid taxes (there is
no duty on aluminum) and palete (very strong one and nicely covered with
plywood) was loaded onto my trailer. The cost of the shipment was about 130
USD. Total cost of the aluminum for 701 was about 1300 CAD, including
shiping and taxes. It was much easier (and cheaper) than expected.
I agree, UPS is too expensive.
Regards, Jarek
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| Subject: | Re: Brokerage fees? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill <mfothergill@sympatico.ca>
Hi;
ACS will mail goods up to $500.00, then it is UPS.
Mike
UHS Spinners
Dan Knezacek wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
>
> I find that it's always cheaper to use US Post to ship to Canada. I get
> charged the sales tax but no brokerage fees.
>
> ACS defaults to UPS which is a pain if I forget to ask for US Post. UPS is
> the most expensive way to ship across the border, though it's often a bit
> faster (though not always).
>
> Dan
> 601 HD EA81 soob
>
>
>>Yes there's a free trade agreement but...
>>
>>That's mean that there is no fees add to the price as a penalty right to
>>enter in Canada but, Canada and province want collect "sales taxes" on
>>american products and in Quebec it's 7,5% for GST and 7% for QST, It's the
>>reason why there's need for a custom process to collect taxes. It's the
>>broker's job and it's not free...
>>
>>I think also that the broker insure that goods importation are in line
>>with
>>the laws and regulation. They get a waiver from customs for the goods.
>>
>>Daniel Pelletier
>
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| Subject: | Brake Master Cylinders |
Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:51:51 -0600
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <PAULROD36@msn.com>
About a week ago I asked a question about what scratch builders were using for
brake master cylinders. I think it may have not gotten to the list, so one more
try----
I'm looking at both the Matco cylinders, and an Italian set that ACS carries,
and wondering if anyone has any experience or comments concerning each?
What are you using, and happy with?
Paul Rodriguez
601XL-Corvair
drudging through the front fuse
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| Subject: | Re: CH-642 4-seat twin [hypothetical] |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Ihab Awad <ihab.awad@gmail.com>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
> Now, additional food for dreaming - this engine would be a good fit for a "personal
DC-3",
> wouldn't it: http://hciaviation.com/prod-r220-a.shtml
I love it! Regarding the price, this is not a problem if you can
machine your own components using their "castings kit". To that end,
I'll just have to ask for a fully equipped machine shop next Xmas. If
I build two engines, I can save even more money, and then I can start
building them for other folks and *make* money. Before you laugh, note
that I got a Starrett automatic center punch this year, so my optimism
is not unfounded. Peace, -- I
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | hardware request from mark |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
Jack and others Thanks! I now have the hardware list for the 601XL but
still need one for the HD! Anyone out there with a scanner or digital
camera able to get me a copy of the 601HD hardware box list. ZAC was
kind enough to send the one for the 912 installation.
Mark Townsend
Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL EJ 2.2L
Osprey 2 serial # 751
www.ch601.org
www.Osprey2.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Russell
Subject: Zenith-List: hardware request from mark
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jack Russell <clojan@sbcglobal.net>
Mark: did you get a response to your request. If not I will scan the
inventory sheet on top of the 601 hardware kit and send to you. Jack in
clovis ca
do not archive
Cdngoose <601xl@sympatico.ca> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
I would like to ask if a 601 kit builder would mind spending a bit of
time and doing an Inventory of there hardware kit that they get with the
plane and sending me a copy of the inventory list so that I may add it
to the www.ch601.org website to help all of the plans builders. I
already have a materials and cutting list. It is almost an impossible
task to make up a hardware list by going through the plans alone.
Jack Russell -Clovis CA
601 XL Jabiru 3300
Progress update at:
http://www.geocities.com/clojan@sbcglobal.net/zodiacbarn.html
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| Subject: | Re: Brokerage fees? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Howard Carter <howado@cwia.com>
Trevor,
I recently purchased a piece of medical equipment from Canada, and the
seller sent it by Post to avoid charges levied by UPS. So it looks like
UPS is working the system both ways.
Howard Carter
Trevor Page wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page <webmaster@upac.ca>
>
>You would be correct on your assessment. When the duties were dropped
>the gov. decided to collect taxes on each and every item imported
>instead.
>I'd really like to know from the US readers what they encounter at
>their border when they bring stuff in from Canada (if they even need
>to...)
>
>The problem however is the disparity in pricing for such "services".
>UPS charges the brokerage fee based on the declared or insured value
>(whichever is greatest) of the item being imported. I've never seen UPS
>charge less than $37 Canadian for such a "service". Gets real expensive
>when your item is worth just a few dollars.
>UPS's brokerage system is extortion, plain and simple and they should
>be taken to task with the BBB.
>
>Canada Post on the other hand charges a flat $5 fee for the same thing,
>regardless of item value. So you tell me, which is more reasonable??
>
>I use the postal system whenever I can. I detest UPS.
>
>Trevor Page
>601HD, 98.8% complete
>
>
>On Dec 28, 2004, at 9:53 AM, Daniel Pelletier wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Daniel Pelletier"
>><pelletie1@hotmail.com>
>>
>>Yes there's a free trade agreement but...
>>
>>That's mean that there is no fees add to the price as a penalty right
>>to
>>enter in Canada but, Canada and province want collect "sales taxes" on
>>american products and in Quebec it's 7,5% for GST and 7% for QST, It's
>>the
>>reason why there's need for a custom process to collect taxes. It's
>>the
>>broker's job and it's not free...
>>
>>I think also that the broker insure that goods importation are in line
>>with
>>the laws and regulation. They get a waiver from customs for the goods.
>>
>>Daniel Pelletier
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: Howard Carter <howado@cwia.com>
>>>Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: Zenith-List: Brokerage fees?
>>>Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 01:21:32 -0800
>>>
>>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Howard Carter <howado@cwia.com>
>>>
>>>I thought that Canada and the US have a free trade agreement, so why
>>>is
>>>a broker necessary, since Customs should not be involved? Could
>>>someone
>>>explain what's going on here?
>>>Howard Carter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: firewall forward kit for ch 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mark Eagar" <mark.eagar@prodigy.net>
thanks much, Brian, this was a bit help.
Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: <RURUNY@aol.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: firewall forward kit for ch 701
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com
>
> Mark,
>
> I have the Zenith firewall kit for the 912s and just ordered my engine
> last
> week(912) . I have also looked very closely at the firewall fwd
> installation
> on a Skyshops (Czech) amphibian 701 at Oshkosh this year. They do a few
> things
> on those aircraft, different from the kit that I think are plain better
> than
> the kit. Some of those things you can do yourself easily and Zenith
> provided
> with my kit plenty of scrap sheet of varying thicknesses to do them. With
> respect to the firewall, the parts quality look the same high quality on
> both.
> The Skyshops installation does have a few extras such as a higher quality
> cowling that is larger to allow room for the 912 airbox using side naca
> scoops
> w/filters for air intake to the carbs(105mph). Zenith provides 2 air
> filters
> that directly hook up to the carbs, no airbox, so carbs will be sucking
> warm
> air all the time. No carb heat needed but lower engine performance.
> Skyshops
> provides a gascolator with a drain at the firewall( aluminum box) where
> Zenith does not provide any instruction or parts for firewall penetration
> of fuel
> line. The Skyshops oil sump mount is a better design than Zeniths,
> especially
> if you have cabin heat, it allows you to mount the components in a more
> sensible location. The props in each are different. Price for Zeniths is
> 3,672.00 for Skyshops is 4,450.00 US. I have heard nothing but good about
> Skyshops
> and the way they do business. I have though been turned away on
> individual
> parts purchase such as the oil sump mount. They said they are only
> selling the
> whole firewall fwd kit as a response. I'm sure if you buy the whole fwf
> kit
> you will be able at that point to buy individual parts for that fwf kit
> if
> necessary. I can say for "sure" if you ever need parts for the Zenith
> fwf, you
> can call and get them within a few days. Talk to both and do your
> research.
> Sorry for rambling on.
>
> Brian Unruh
> Long Island
> _http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/bunruh/_
> (http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/bunruh/)
>
>
> the skyshop kit is supposed to increase cruise speed to
> 105 mph, but all the parts are coming from overseas, so I don't know what
> kind
> of quality they might be. your help would be much appreciated.
> thanks
> Mark Eagar
> El Dorado Hills, Ca
> ch 701 5% complete
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Brake Master Cylinders |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill <mfothergill@sympatico.ca>
Hi;
I have had good success with Matco, both with reserve and remote. I
prefer the remote reserve installation.
Mike
UHS Spinners
PAULROD36@msn.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: <PAULROD36@msn.com>
>
> About a week ago I asked a question about what scratch builders were using for
brake master cylinders. I think it may have not gotten to the list, so one more
try----
> I'm looking at both the Matco cylinders, and an Italian set that ACS
carries, and wondering if anyone has any experience or comments concerning each?
What are you using, and happy with?
>
> Paul Rodriguez
> 601XL-Corvair
> drudging through the front fuse
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | materials list for the 601HD |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ron" <aussieflyier@yahoo.com.au>
Hi.
Does anyone have a materials list and a parts layout for the 601HD. I have just
received my plans and I plan to build from scratch.
Thanks to anyone that can help.
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: Brokerage fees? Out of theme only once, Do not archive |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Thats in "paper" and politics good will, in real life is another diferent thing,
same happens here with Mexico,
At least with the free trade, we have more things we can import. Yesterdays were
forbiden or "customs protected".
There is always a diference betwen what the "Law" says and the "Rules" to aply
the Law.
Just one sample: Since last year (or two?) in the free trade agreement calendar,
trucks (and drivers) from our 3 countriies should be alowed to travel freely
betwen our countries, the rules still not allow this to happen with mexican
trucks and drivers at least, dont know with Canada... they argue Safety rules,
etc...
Well no more on this, SORRY: I will not answer any of this to the list, to keep
it 100% aviation. Hope you got the idea. If not Im sorry :-)
This is a great list as is.
please Do Not Archive
Saludos
Gary Gower
Howard Carter <howado@cwia.com> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Howard Carter
I thought that Canada and the US have a free trade agreement, so why is
a broker necessary, since Customs should not be involved? Could someone
explain what's going on here?
Howard Carter
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