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1. 05:59 AM - Re: Zodiac crash at PAE (David Barth)
2. 07:14 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: Parking Brake (John M. Goodings)
3. 09:05 AM - Re: DAR Costs (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
4. 10:07 AM - UPS charges for aircraft parts to Canada (Mike Fothergill)
5. 10:22 AM - parking brakes vs. wheel chocks... (Grant Corriveau)
6. 11:25 AM - Re: UPS charges for aircraft parts to Canada (Michel Therrien)
7. 11:40 AM - Re: UPS charges for aircraft parts to Canada (Bill Cardell)
8. 12:12 PM - Re: UPS charges for aircraft parts to Canada (Mike Fothergill)
9. 01:30 PM - Voltage Regulator, Rectifier (Lowell Metz)
10. 01:44 PM - Re: Voltage Regulator, Rectifier (Mike Fothergill)
11. 02:37 PM - Re: voltage regulator (Zed Smith)
12. 02:41 PM - Fees.... (Zed Smith)
13. 03:28 PM - Re: Spark problems on Rotax 912 again... (Thilo Kind)
14. 03:59 PM - Re: Spark problems on Rotax 912 again... (Dave Austin)
15. 04:04 PM - Re: Voltage Regulator, Rectifier (Dave)
16. 04:22 PM - Increasing gross weight (Jeffrey Glasserow)
17. 04:35 PM - Re: DAR Costs (ron dewees)
18. 04:37 PM - Re: Increasing gross weight (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
19. 04:53 PM - Re: Increasing gross weight (Larry McFarland)
20. 06:18 PM - Re: Increasing gross weight (Jeffrey Glasserow)
21. 06:29 PM - Re: Fees.... (Mike Fothergill)
22. 06:37 PM - Re: Voltage Regulator, Rectifier (george may)
23. 07:07 PM - Re: Increasing gross weight (cgalley)
24. 07:18 PM - Re: Increasing gross weight (cgalley)
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| Subject: | Re: Zodiac crash at PAE |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: David Barth <davids601xl@yahoo.com>
Thanks for the report Joe. That HAS to be tough to write about but you are alright
(for the most part) and the aircraft kept you safe in a crash that would
undoubtably have happened to any light aircraft in the same situation. It is
a good reminder for everyone that the pilot is the decision maker - not the tower.
3 minutes may be the minimum but certainly doesn't guarantee that the wake
turbulence from heavy haulers will be disipated.
Thanks again Joe. You might just have saved someone from a more devastating encounter
with wake turbulence.
And good luck with the insurance/salvage/rebuilding process.
David
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j.breit@comcast.net wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: j.breit@comcast.net
I think George Swinford may have answered this question, but I was the one that
crashed. I had a little over 8 hours on my CH601HDS (Stratus powered) N826JB.
Had added a oil cooler and did some fuel mods that seemed to be working well.
But I have favored the long runway at Paine (9100') because you can land straight
on if you have a problem. Problem is that you have to share it with the big
guys. According to NTSB a 777 was in front of me when I was doing touch and
gos and conditions were ideal for wake turbulence (little or no wind to blow
the vortex away). I had the 3 minute warning and even asked the tower if I should
hold on the runway after landing on my first touch and go. Tower came back
with "we gave you the 3 minute warning and you're cleared for takeoff". As I
started to take off I rolled to the right and couldn't recover. Airplane spun
around, sheared the left gear and dropped the nose on the ground bending nose
gear, shearing the prop, causing some engine damage a
nd smashing up cowl and some of the front fuselage. Luckily it didn't roll. The
cockpit remained pretty well intact though and I was able to shut things down
and jump out of the airplane. Had a sprained right ankle which I found out a
few days later was broken. I also had a pretty good welt from the sholder harness.
I was insured and I'm hoping I come out well enough to use the HDS for salvage
and build an XL. We were able to get the airplane back to the hanger and
despite it esentially being totaled (the rear fuselage and tail were all that
remained unschathed) all the control cables were still connect to the control
surfaces. I really liked that airplane and I was really impressed with how it
stood up in the crash.
Joe Breit
j.breit@comcast.net
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> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Sigmo@aol.com
>
> Does anyone know who's Zodiac crashed at Paine field (PAE) in Everett or what
> happened?
> The local papers are, as usual, very vague.
>
> Mike Sigman
> 601XL
>
>
>
>
>
>
I think George Swinford may have answered this question, but I was the one that
crashed. I had a little over 8 hours on my CH601HDS (Stratus powered) N826JB.
Had added a oil cooler and did some fuel mods that seemed to be working well.
But I have favored the long runway at Paine (9100') because you can land straight
on if you have a problem. Problem is that you have to share it with the big
guys. According to NTSB a 777 was in front of me when I was doing touch and
gos and conditions were ideal for wake turbulence (little or no wind to blow
the vortex away). I had the 3 minute warning and even asked the tower if I should
hold on the runway after landing on my first touch and go. Tower came back
with "we gave you the 3 minute warning and you're cleared for takeoff". As I
started to take off I rolled to the right and couldn't recover. Airplane spun
around, sheared the left gear and dropped the nose on the ground bending nose
gear, shearing the prop, causing some engine dam
age and smashing up cowl and some of the front fuselage. Luckily it didn't roll.
The cockpit remained pretty well intact though and I was able to shut things
down and jump out of the airplane. Had a sprained right ankle which I found out
a few days later was broken. I also had a pretty good welt from the sholder
harness. I was insured and I'm hoping I come out well enough to use the HDS for
salvage and build an XL. We were able to get the airplane back to the hanger
and despite it esentially being totaled (the rear fuselage and tail were all
that remained unschathed) all the control cables were still connect to the control
surfaces. I really liked that airplane and I was really impressed with how
it stood up in the crash.
Joe Breit
j.breit@comcast.net
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-- Zenith-List message posted by: Sigmo@aol.com
Does anyone know who's Zodiac crashed at Paine field (PAE) in Everett or what
happened?
The local papers are, as usual, very vague.
Mike Sigman
601XL
ubscription
David Barth
601 XL Plansbuilder 15% done?
Working on Wings
www.ch601.org
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: Parking Brake |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "John M. Goodings" <goodings@yorku.ca>
If you really mean PARKING brakes, they're called "chocks"!
(My little attempt at humour - don't take offense!)
Do not archive.
John Goodings, C-FGPJ, CH601HD with 912S, Toronto/Waterloo.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Dear Ron DeWees, You wrote that you called the MIDO here in Georgia to start
your inspection process. Can you send me the telephone number for that branch
office? Thanks, Bill of Georgia
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| Subject: | UPS charges for aircraft parts to Canada |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill <mfothergill@sympatico.ca>
Hi;
This has been discussed before but here is a very current example of UPS
charges on shipments to Canada from USA. A replacement aircraft part
returned to me from California with no duty or taxes owing or deserved
had a brokerage fee of $Cdn 53.00. I phoned UPS to complain. They said
that it was a percentage of the articles value. It has nothing to do
with the amount of work done to clear it through customs. A UPS tax!!!!
Use Express post to Canada. They have a flat $5.00 fee. I know that
parcels cannot be tracked by post but I have never had a loss in 50
years. Not a bad risk.
My 2 cents. I am angry. Can you tell?
Mike
CH-601HDS
UHS Spinners
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| Subject: | parking brakes vs. wheel chocks... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
Yeah, but can you run fast enough to catch up to the airplane in a strong
wind to install them!! ;-)
do not archive
> Yes, The most simple and lightweighrt are 4 pieces of 3" aluminum angle,
> tied
> with a rope in pairs, one pair for each main wheel...
>
> Saludos
> Gary Gower
> Do not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: UPS charges for aircraft parts to Canada |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
:-)
The 5$ with USPS is charged only if the value is above
20$ and what I found is that often, I've not been
charged for taxes and 5$ even for more expansive
shipments.
For UPS.... I refuse to deal with them since I bought
a 4$ tube of oxygen compatible lube and paid 26$ in
brokerage fees. When a supplier cannot ship with
other methods... I buy somewhereelse (I don't deal
with Harbor Freight for this reason, as an example).
Michel
do not archive
--- Mike Fothergill <mfothergill@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill
> <mfothergill@sympatico.ca>
>
> Hi;
> This has been discussed before but here is a very
> current example of UPS
> charges on shipments to Canada from USA. A
> replacement aircraft part
> returned to me from California with no duty or taxes
> owing or deserved
> had a brokerage fee of $Cdn 53.00. I phoned UPS to
> complain. They said
> that it was a percentage of the articles value. It
> has nothing to do
> with the amount of work done to clear it through
> customs. A UPS tax!!!!
> Use Express post to Canada. They have a flat $5.00
> fee. I know that
> parcels cannot be tracked by post but I have never
> had a loss in 50
> years. Not a bad risk.
> My 2 cents. I am angry. Can you tell?
> Mike
=====
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Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby
http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
__________________________________
http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
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| Subject: | UPS charges for aircraft parts to Canada |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bill Cardell <bill@flyinmiata.com>
Just remember, if you don't want to pay ups the brokerage, use expedited or
express ups and all fees are built in. Often comes out cheaper/faster than
ground.
do not archive
Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad)
bill@flyinmiata.com
Flyin' Miata
1-800-359-6957 (sales only)
970-242-3800 (tech support)
http://flyinmiata.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Michel Therrien [mailto:mtherr@yahoo.com]
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: UPS charges for aircraft parts to Canada
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
:-)
The 5$ with USPS is charged only if the value is above
20$ and what I found is that often, I've not been
charged for taxes and 5$ even for more expansive
shipments.
For UPS.... I refuse to deal with them since I bought
a 4$ tube of oxygen compatible lube and paid 26$ in
brokerage fees. When a supplier cannot ship with
other methods... I buy somewhereelse (I don't deal
with Harbor Freight for this reason, as an example).
Michel
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: UPS charges for aircraft parts to Canada |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill <mfothergill@sympatico.ca>
In other words. Pay up front rather than later. That does not wash.
Mike
Bill Cardell wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bill Cardell <bill@flyinmiata.com>
>
> Just remember, if you don't want to pay ups the brokerage, use expedited or
> express ups and all fees are built in. Often comes out cheaper/faster than
> ground.
>
> do not archive
> Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad)
> bill@flyinmiata.com
> Flyin' Miata
> 1-800-359-6957 (sales only)
> 970-242-3800 (tech support)
> http://flyinmiata.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michel Therrien [mailto:mtherr@yahoo.com]
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: UPS charges for aircraft parts to Canada
>
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
>
> :-)
>
> The 5$ with USPS is charged only if the value is above
> 20$ and what I found is that often, I've not been
> charged for taxes and 5$ even for more expansive
> shipments.
>
> For UPS.... I refuse to deal with them since I bought
> a 4$ tube of oxygen compatible lube and paid 26$ in
> brokerage fees. When a supplier cannot ship with
> other methods... I buy somewhereelse (I don't deal
> with Harbor Freight for this reason, as an example).
>
> Michel
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Voltage Regulator, Rectifier |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lowell Metz" <lowellmetz@earthlink.net>
To those of you with the Rotax 912 / 912-S I have a question : After about
12 hours my regulator started putting out upwards to 19 volts and obviously
set off my EIS light. Lockwood replaced it with a new one under warrantee and
I was fine for a while but the new regulator started producing spikes up to 15
volts so I fashioned a ram air duct with scat tube to blow cool air directly
on the regulator which is mounted high on the firewall as shown on the plans.
This seemed to help keep the voltage within the manuals output spec until today.
At 60 hours the second regulator voltage is climbing and when I landed it
was putting out 17.4 volts.
Has anyone had a similar experience or has had faulty regulators ? What might
the cause be and what might be a solution to the problem.
The regulator / rectifier is the supplied Ducatti unit which is finned aluminum
and has a "potted " bottom so there is no external adjustment to reduce or
set the voltage output. I sure don't want to cook my battery or worse make it
"splode" .
Lowell Metz
701 / 912-S
Venice, FL.
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| Subject: | Re: Voltage Regulator, Rectifier |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill <mfothergill@sympatico.ca>
Hi;
Do you have the "C" lead on the regulator connected correctly?
Mike
UHS Spinners
Lowell Metz wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lowell Metz" <lowellmetz@earthlink.net>
>
> To those of you with the Rotax 912 / 912-S I have a question : After about
12 hours my regulator started putting out upwards to 19 volts and obviously
set off my EIS light. Lockwood replaced it with a new one under warrantee and
I was fine for a while but the new regulator started producing spikes up to
15 volts so I fashioned a ram air duct with scat tube to blow cool air directly
on the regulator which is mounted high on the firewall as shown on the plans.
This seemed to help keep the voltage within the manuals output spec until
today. At 60 hours the second regulator voltage is climbing and when I landed
it was putting out 17.4 volts.
> Has anyone had a similar experience or has had faulty regulators ? What
might the cause be and what might be a solution to the problem.
> The regulator / rectifier is the supplied Ducatti unit which is finned aluminum
and has a "potted " bottom so there is no external adjustment to reduce
or set the voltage output. I sure don't want to cook my battery or worse make
it "splode" .
>
> Lowell Metz
> 701 / 912-S
> Venice, FL.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: voltage regulator |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
Again, I'm in office, not in hangar.....however, if memory serves, the regulator
case needs to be well grounded, as do all other wires/conductors specified as
"ground" or "earth" (I forget the German phrase).
Secondly, ALL the grounds need to reference ONE point, not just tied to the airframe
here and there.
Reason for this is that the regulator "references" ground, and if it is several
Ohms above ground you'll have problems. Another thing is the filter capacitor.
Unless it is of "computer grade" quality, it may well change value and/or
impedance with a rise in temperature (you may NOT be filtering after it warms
up and therefore puttig all sorts of hash on your 12 volt DC system) But we
all knew that.
Respectfully Submitted,
Zed/701/R912/90+% as always
do not archive
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
do not archive
And while I'm on a roll, here goes........
This is NOT intended to start some kind of international squabble, but consider
some other options:
Convince Aircraft Spruce, and/or others, to open a branch in Canada.
Move to the States. It only hits 100 degrees F half the summer.
Have stuff shipped to Cousin Joe in Detroit (or somewhere close) and drive over
to get it.
Open your own Brokerage House.
Have it shipped from the U.S. to Greenland (or some other place), then back to
Canada (there must be some routing where the fees do not apply).
Have the stuff e-mailed to you.
Have the shipper put one aspirin in the box, make the manifest show "Medical supplies"
or some other phrase that warrants a free pass.
Find a class/catagory of freight that is exempt from the fees, figure a way to
re-name your parts.
Have the shipper send you an "empty box" but use the parts as "packing material".
If there is a Canadian equivalent of APO/FPO (military) mailing addresses, use
that.
Since the parts were first owned by the manufacturer, then the seller, and you
are the third owner, these must be "used" parts and may qualify for NO FEE.
Have it shipped as "baggage" on Greyhound.
Have it shipped in a large briefcase marked "Diplomatic Pouch".
There is usually more than one method of "skinning a cat". Sometimes you need
to start at the other end.
Seriously though, if the same parts were bought by someone in the States FROM a
firm in Canada, and these parts were shipped to the buyer in the States, does
the same ripoff apply?
Looks like you guys are being taken for a ride by TWO national governments.
Surely there is a way around this problem.
Zed/701/R912/90%
again, DO NOT ARCHIVE, its not worth reading.....certainly not worth saving!
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| Subject: | Re: Spark problems on Rotax 912 again... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thilo Kind" <thilo.kind@gmx.net>
Hi Greg,
sounds very familiar.Last year, my 912 started to run rough one time and
then I was unable to start it again. I tried everything. Checked the fuel
system - was okay. Checked the electrical system (some guys had troubles
with some of the connectors). Tried an ignition tester, but got varrying
results. Removed the spark plugs, reset the gaps, tried to see the spark,
but didn't see anything. Tried big car battery. It just turned over, but
didn't fire. Enlisted the help of some very experienced engine specialists -
again nothing. Then finally I found something interesting: the choke on the
left carb didn't open completely, when the choke was fully pulled. The gap
between the choke lever on the carb and the stop was approx. 1 mm. After I
corrected that the engine fired right up. No problems since then. Maybe this
will help so. Good luck with your engine.
Best regards
Thilo Kind
----- Original Message -----
From: "Trevor Page" <webmaster@upac.ca>
Subject: Zenith-List: Spark problems on Rotax 912 again...
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page <webmaster@upac.ca>
>
> So today was nice, pulled the plane out, tied her down, chocked it,
> added a little fuel and gave her a test. She will not fire up.
>
> Now, I have fuel in the lines, carb bowls are full. I removed a couple
> of plugs and there is the smell of fuel. Squirted in a teeny bit of
> fuel in each jug and tried again. Nothing.
> So I removed all the top plugs and tested for spark. Nothing. So I'm
> back to square one. Yesterday I had spark on 2 plugs (I only checked a
> couple) and today I get nothing. Now I haven't changed anything since
> yesterday. My mind keeps going back to the battery perhaps not having
> enough oomph to get that magical 220RPM. The engine seems to turn over
> with plenty of gusto however. I don't have a timing light and I seem to
> have misplaced my jumper cables as I wanted to try jumping the plane
> from my car just to see if the bat is at fault. My battery is a
> Panasonic 18AMP gel battery. I don't mind changing it if required but
> is 18AMPs enough? Do more AMPs give me more RPM for starting?
>
> Is there something I'm missing or I can test this spark problem?
>
> Thanks a million!
>
> Trev
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Spark problems on Rotax 912 again... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Austin" <daveaustin2@sprint.ca>
Trev, the 18 is amp/hours, not amps. Means you can draw 18 amps for 1 hour
or 100 amps for 10.8 minutes.
As long as it is charged and your battery leads are not too long it should
do the job.
Are you sure you are FULLY closing the throttle when trying to start? If
not, the choke does nothing!
Dave Austin 601HDS - 912
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| Subject: | Voltage Regulator, Rectifier |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave" <daberti@sbcglobal.net>
That is why you put in an overvoltage protection circuit in.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lowell Metz
Subject: Zenith-List: Voltage Regulator, Rectifier
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lowell Metz" <lowellmetz@earthlink.net>
To those of you with the Rotax 912 / 912-S I have a question : After
about 12 hours my regulator started putting out upwards to 19 volts and
obviously set off my EIS light. Lockwood replaced it with a new one under
warrantee and I was fine for a while but the new regulator started producing
spikes up to 15 volts so I fashioned a ram air duct with scat tube to blow
cool air directly on the regulator which is mounted high on the firewall as
shown on the plans. This seemed to help keep the voltage within the manuals
output spec until today. At 60 hours the second regulator voltage is
climbing and when I landed it was putting out 17.4 volts.
Has anyone had a similar experience or has had faulty regulators ?
What might the cause be and what might be a solution to the problem.
The regulator / rectifier is the supplied Ducatti unit which is finned
aluminum and has a "potted " bottom so there is no external adjustment to
reduce or set the voltage output. I sure don't want to cook my battery or
worse make it "splode" .
Lowell Metz
701 / 912-S
Venice, FL.
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| Subject: | Increasing gross weight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Glasserow" <jeffglass@starband.net>
I'd like input from you listers on the feasability of increasing the gross
weight of my HDS from 1200 to 1300 lbs.
The previous owner told he he often flew the plane at or near 1300 lbs. with
no ill effects. When looking for HDS POH's I noticed that there are a few
HDS's out there with published gross weights of 1300 lbs. I sure could use
the legal extra weight! In any event I'm going to have the plane re-weighed
with me in it to establish proper weight and balance criteria since it
hasn't been weighed since 1999.
Jeff Glasserow
CH 601 HDS
N6384E
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
Hi Bill,
I don't blame you for not finding the number for MIDO. It's not in the
blue pages of the phone book for Atlanta area. I had to call the
general number and even got a wrong number. Somebody finally gave me
the right number. It's 770 703 6100. The only two folks I know are
Curtis ROgers and Richard Arnett. Arnett is a Senior Aviation
Inspector. Neither will answer the phone so just tell the operator you
need to get info for licensing an amature airplane. They inspect
certified and large planes too, so they need to know.The office is out
near the Atlanta airport
It would be good to establish at least a telephone relationship with
them as that is where you will send your application for inspection. If
they remember you and want to be nice to you they can call you up and
let you know if you goofed on your application and save you time before
rejecting it or sending it back in the mail.
Good luck and where do you live?
Ron
JAPhillipsGA@aol.com wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
>
>Dear Ron DeWees, You wrote that you called the MIDO here in Georgia to start
>your inspection process. Can you send me the telephone number for that branch
>office? Thanks, Bill of Georgia
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Increasing gross weight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Are you fluing as a sport pilot aircraft? I don't know how to re-plate
it but it sure won't be Sport pilot friendly at 1300lbs...:)
Frank
HDS 350 hours
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey
Glasserow
Subject: Zenith-List: Increasing gross weight
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Glasserow"
--> <jeffglass@starband.net>
I'd like input from you listers on the feasability of increasing the
gross weight of my HDS from 1200 to 1300 lbs.
The previous owner told he he often flew the plane at or near 1300 lbs.
with no ill effects. When looking for HDS POH's I noticed that there are
a few
HDS's out there with published gross weights of 1300 lbs. I sure could
use
the legal extra weight! In any event I'm going to have the plane
re-weighed with me in it to establish proper weight and balance criteria
since it hasn't been weighed since 1999.
Jeff Glasserow
CH 601 HDS
N6384E
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| Subject: | Re: Increasing gross weight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
> I'd like input from you listers on the feasability of increasing the gross
> weight of my HDS from 1200 to 1300 lbs.
> The previous owner told he he often flew the plane at or near 1300 lbs.
> with
> no ill effects. When looking for HDS POH's I noticed that there are a few
> HDS's out there with published gross weights of 1300 lbs. I sure could
> use
> the legal extra weight!
> Jeff Glasserow
> CH 601 HDS
> N6384E
Jeff,
The thing I'd add to your awareness is; Consider the 1300 lbs a special load
limit, above 1200 lbs, as reminder that you need smooth runways, good air
and a delicate touch during
landings. The 601HDS built to Rev 4 provides you a 3.5 G loading at that
weight.
Kind of like the cautionary airspeed zone between maneuvering and redline in
your aircraft.
Reduce your speed in convectives and land softly!
Larry C. McFarland
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| Subject: | Increasing gross weight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Glasserow" <jeffglass@starband.net>
On the contrary! SPA legal up to 1320 lbs. gross weight with fixed gear.
1460 lbs. if you put your 601 0n floats...
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Hinde, Frank
George (Corvallis)
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Increasing gross weight
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
<frank.hinde@hp.com>
Are you fluing as a sport pilot aircraft? I don't know how to re-plate
it but it sure won't be Sport pilot friendly at 1300lbs...:)
Frank
HDS 350 hours
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey
Glasserow
Subject: Zenith-List: Increasing gross weight
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Glasserow"
--> <jeffglass@starband.net>
I'd like input from you listers on the feasability of increasing the
gross weight of my HDS from 1200 to 1300 lbs.
The previous owner told he he often flew the plane at or near 1300 lbs.
with no ill effects. When looking for HDS POH's I noticed that there are
a few
HDS's out there with published gross weights of 1300 lbs. I sure could
use
the legal extra weight! In any event I'm going to have the plane
re-weighed with me in it to establish proper weight and balance criteria
since it hasn't been weighed since 1999.
Jeff Glasserow
CH 601 HDS
N6384E
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill <mfothergill@sympatico.ca>
Yes, there is. Use Express post.
Mike
Zed Smith wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
>
> do not archive
> And while I'm on a roll, here goes........
>
> This is NOT intended to start some kind of international squabble, but consider
some other options:
>
> Convince Aircraft Spruce, and/or others, to open a branch in Canada.
> Move to the States. It only hits 100 degrees F half the summer.
> Have stuff shipped to Cousin Joe in Detroit (or somewhere close) and drive over
to get it.
> Open your own Brokerage House.
> Have it shipped from the U.S. to Greenland (or some other place), then back to
Canada (there must be some routing where the fees do not apply).
> Have the stuff e-mailed to you.
> Have the shipper put one aspirin in the box, make the manifest show "Medical
supplies" or some other phrase that warrants a free pass.
> Find a class/catagory of freight that is exempt from the fees, figure a way to
re-name your parts.
> Have the shipper send you an "empty box" but use the parts as "packing material".
> If there is a Canadian equivalent of APO/FPO (military) mailing addresses, use
that.
> Since the parts were first owned by the manufacturer, then the seller, and you
are the third owner, these must be "used" parts and may qualify for NO FEE.
> Have it shipped as "baggage" on Greyhound.
> Have it shipped in a large briefcase marked "Diplomatic Pouch".
>
> There is usually more than one method of "skinning a cat". Sometimes you need
to start at the other end.
>
> Seriously though, if the same parts were bought by someone in the States FROM
a firm in Canada, and these parts were shipped to the buyer in the States, does
the same ripoff apply?
>
> Looks like you guys are being taken for a ride by TWO national governments.
> Surely there is a way around this problem.
>
> Zed/701/R912/90%
>
> again, DO NOT ARCHIVE, its not worth reading.....certainly not worth saving!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Voltage Regulator, Rectifier |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "george may" <gfmjr_20@hotmail.com>
Lowell--
I've had similar problems wth the regulator I use on my Kitfox 582. I
lost 2 of them , one
to over voltage and one to low voltage. Finally got rid of them and went to
a West
regulator. 150 hours with the West and no problems
George May
601XL
>From: "Lowell Metz" <lowellmetz@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>To: "Zenith List" <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Zenith-List: Voltage Regulator, Rectifier
>Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 16:31:54 -0500
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lowell Metz" <lowellmetz@earthlink.net>
>
> To those of you with the Rotax 912 / 912-S I have a question : After
>about 12 hours my regulator started putting out upwards to 19 volts and
>obviously set off my EIS light. Lockwood replaced it with a new one under
>warrantee and I was fine for a while but the new regulator started
>producing spikes up to 15 volts so I fashioned a ram air duct with scat
>tube to blow cool air directly on the regulator which is mounted high on
>the firewall as shown on the plans. This seemed to help keep the voltage
>within the manuals output spec until today. At 60 hours the second
>regulator voltage is climbing and when I landed it was putting out 17.4
>volts.
> Has anyone had a similar experience or has had faulty regulators ?
>What might the cause be and what might be a solution to the problem.
> The regulator / rectifier is the supplied Ducatti unit which is finned
>aluminum and has a "potted " bottom so there is no external adjustment to
>reduce or set the voltage output. I sure don't want to cook my battery or
>worse make it "splode" .
>
>Lowell Metz
>701 / 912-S
>Venice, FL.
>
>
http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
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| Subject: | Re: Increasing gross weight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Talk to your FSDO but if you have the "new" operating limitations then you
could Change the Gross Weight in the logs, make a test flight at that weight
and sign it off. Might have to fly until you have an additional 5 hours as
that is the test period for Major changes. But Check with your FSDO to see
what they want.
Cy Galley
EAA Safety Programs Editor
Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Glasserow" <jeffglass@starband.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Increasing gross weight
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Glasserow"
<jeffglass@starband.net>
>
> I'd like input from you listers on the feasability of increasing the gross
> weight of my HDS from 1200 to 1300 lbs.
> The previous owner told he he often flew the plane at or near 1300 lbs.
with
> no ill effects. When looking for HDS POH's I noticed that there are a few
> HDS's out there with published gross weights of 1300 lbs. I sure could
use
> the legal extra weight! In any event I'm going to have the plane
re-weighed
> with me in it to establish proper weight and balance criteria since it
> hasn't been weighed since 1999.
> Jeff Glasserow
> CH 601 HDS
> N6384E
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Why not? 1320 is the limit under the new "Sport Pilot"
If you go to 1300 then you need to see if you can meet the Stall speed of
51 mph AT that weight.
P.S. They did raise the Gross from 1230 to 1320 under the final rule.
Cy Galley
EAA Safety Programs Editor
Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Increasing gross weight
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
<frank.hinde@hp.com>
>
> Are you fluing as a sport pilot aircraft? I don't know how to re-plate
> it but it sure won't be Sport pilot friendly at 1300lbs...:)
>
> Frank
> HDS 350 hours
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey
> Glasserow
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Zenith-List: Increasing gross weight
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Glasserow"
> --> <jeffglass@starband.net>
>
> I'd like input from you listers on the feasability of increasing the
> gross weight of my HDS from 1200 to 1300 lbs.
> The previous owner told he he often flew the plane at or near 1300 lbs.
> with no ill effects. When looking for HDS POH's I noticed that there are
> a few
> HDS's out there with published gross weights of 1300 lbs. I sure could
> use
> the legal extra weight! In any event I'm going to have the plane
> re-weighed with me in it to establish proper weight and balance criteria
> since it hasn't been weighed since 1999.
> Jeff Glasserow
> CH 601 HDS
> N6384E
>
>
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