---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/05/05: 24 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:59 AM - Re: Zodiac crash at PAE (David Barth) 2. 07:14 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: Parking Brake (John M. Goodings) 3. 09:05 AM - Re: DAR Costs (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com) 4. 10:07 AM - UPS charges for aircraft parts to Canada (Mike Fothergill) 5. 10:22 AM - parking brakes vs. wheel chocks... (Grant Corriveau) 6. 11:25 AM - Re: UPS charges for aircraft parts to Canada (Michel Therrien) 7. 11:40 AM - Re: UPS charges for aircraft parts to Canada (Bill Cardell) 8. 12:12 PM - Re: UPS charges for aircraft parts to Canada (Mike Fothergill) 9. 01:30 PM - Voltage Regulator, Rectifier (Lowell Metz) 10. 01:44 PM - Re: Voltage Regulator, Rectifier (Mike Fothergill) 11. 02:37 PM - Re: voltage regulator (Zed Smith) 12. 02:41 PM - Fees.... (Zed Smith) 13. 03:28 PM - Re: Spark problems on Rotax 912 again... (Thilo Kind) 14. 03:59 PM - Re: Spark problems on Rotax 912 again... (Dave Austin) 15. 04:04 PM - Re: Voltage Regulator, Rectifier (Dave) 16. 04:22 PM - Increasing gross weight (Jeffrey Glasserow) 17. 04:35 PM - Re: DAR Costs (ron dewees) 18. 04:37 PM - Re: Increasing gross weight (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)) 19. 04:53 PM - Re: Increasing gross weight (Larry McFarland) 20. 06:18 PM - Re: Increasing gross weight (Jeffrey Glasserow) 21. 06:29 PM - Re: Fees.... (Mike Fothergill) 22. 06:37 PM - Re: Voltage Regulator, Rectifier (george may) 23. 07:07 PM - Re: Increasing gross weight (cgalley) 24. 07:18 PM - Re: Increasing gross weight (cgalley) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:59:35 AM PST US From: David Barth Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zodiac crash at PAE --> Zenith-List message posted by: David Barth Thanks for the report Joe. That HAS to be tough to write about but you are alright (for the most part) and the aircraft kept you safe in a crash that would undoubtably have happened to any light aircraft in the same situation. It is a good reminder for everyone that the pilot is the decision maker - not the tower. 3 minutes may be the minimum but certainly doesn't guarantee that the wake turbulence from heavy haulers will be disipated. Thanks again Joe. You might just have saved someone from a more devastating encounter with wake turbulence. And good luck with the insurance/salvage/rebuilding process. David do not archive j.breit@comcast.net wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: j.breit@comcast.net I think George Swinford may have answered this question, but I was the one that crashed. I had a little over 8 hours on my CH601HDS (Stratus powered) N826JB. Had added a oil cooler and did some fuel mods that seemed to be working well. But I have favored the long runway at Paine (9100') because you can land straight on if you have a problem. Problem is that you have to share it with the big guys. According to NTSB a 777 was in front of me when I was doing touch and gos and conditions were ideal for wake turbulence (little or no wind to blow the vortex away). I had the 3 minute warning and even asked the tower if I should hold on the runway after landing on my first touch and go. Tower came back with "we gave you the 3 minute warning and you're cleared for takeoff". As I started to take off I rolled to the right and couldn't recover. Airplane spun around, sheared the left gear and dropped the nose on the ground bending nose gear, shearing the prop, causing some engine damage a nd smashing up cowl and some of the front fuselage. Luckily it didn't roll. The cockpit remained pretty well intact though and I was able to shut things down and jump out of the airplane. Had a sprained right ankle which I found out a few days later was broken. I also had a pretty good welt from the sholder harness. I was insured and I'm hoping I come out well enough to use the HDS for salvage and build an XL. We were able to get the airplane back to the hanger and despite it esentially being totaled (the rear fuselage and tail were all that remained unschathed) all the control cables were still connect to the control surfaces. I really liked that airplane and I was really impressed with how it stood up in the crash. Joe Breit j.breit@comcast.net -------------- Original message -------------- > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Sigmo@aol.com > > Does anyone know who's Zodiac crashed at Paine field (PAE) in Everett or what > happened? > The local papers are, as usual, very vague. > > Mike Sigman > 601XL > > > > > > I think George Swinford may have answered this question, but I was the one that crashed. I had a little over 8 hours on my CH601HDS (Stratus powered) N826JB. Had added a oil cooler and did some fuel mods that seemed to be working well. But I have favored the long runway at Paine (9100') because you can land straight on if you have a problem. Problem is that you have to share it with the big guys. According to NTSB a 777 was in front of me when I was doing touch and gos and conditions were ideal for wake turbulence (little or no wind to blow the vortex away). I had the 3 minute warning and even asked the tower if I should hold on the runway after landing on my first touch and go. Tower came back with "we gave you the 3 minute warning and you're cleared for takeoff". As I started to take off I rolled to the right and couldn't recover. Airplane spun around, sheared the left gear and dropped the nose on the ground bending nose gear, shearing the prop, causing some engine dam age and smashing up cowl and some of the front fuselage. Luckily it didn't roll. The cockpit remained pretty well intact though and I was able to shut things down and jump out of the airplane. Had a sprained right ankle which I found out a few days later was broken. I also had a pretty good welt from the sholder harness. I was insured and I'm hoping I come out well enough to use the HDS for salvage and build an XL. We were able to get the airplane back to the hanger and despite it esentially being totaled (the rear fuselage and tail were all that remained unschathed) all the control cables were still connect to the control surfaces. I really liked that airplane and I was really impressed with how it stood up in the crash. Joe Breit j.breit@comcast.net -------------- Original message -------------- -- Zenith-List message posted by: Sigmo@aol.com Does anyone know who's Zodiac crashed at Paine field (PAE) in Everett or what happened? The local papers are, as usual, very vague. Mike Sigman 601XL ubscription David Barth 601 XL Plansbuilder 15% done? Working on Wings www.ch601.org --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:14:49 AM PST US From: "John M. Goodings" Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-List Digest: Parking Brake --> Zenith-List message posted by: "John M. Goodings" If you really mean PARKING brakes, they're called "chocks"! (My little attempt at humour - don't take offense!) Do not archive. John Goodings, C-FGPJ, CH601HD with 912S, Toronto/Waterloo. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:05:21 AM PST US From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: DAR Costs --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Dear Ron DeWees, You wrote that you called the MIDO here in Georgia to start your inspection process. Can you send me the telephone number for that branch office? Thanks, Bill of Georgia ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:07:44 AM PST US From: Mike Fothergill Subject: Zenith-List: UPS charges for aircraft parts to Canada --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill Hi; This has been discussed before but here is a very current example of UPS charges on shipments to Canada from USA. A replacement aircraft part returned to me from California with no duty or taxes owing or deserved had a brokerage fee of $Cdn 53.00. I phoned UPS to complain. They said that it was a percentage of the articles value. It has nothing to do with the amount of work done to clear it through customs. A UPS tax!!!! Use Express post to Canada. They have a flat $5.00 fee. I know that parcels cannot be tracked by post but I have never had a loss in 50 years. Not a bad risk. My 2 cents. I am angry. Can you tell? Mike CH-601HDS UHS Spinners ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:22:20 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: parking brakes vs. wheel chocks... From: Grant Corriveau --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau Yeah, but can you run fast enough to catch up to the airplane in a strong wind to install them!! ;-) do not archive > Yes, The most simple and lightweighrt are 4 pieces of 3" aluminum angle, > tied > with a rope in pairs, one pair for each main wheel... > > Saludos > Gary Gower > Do not Archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:25:48 AM PST US From: Michel Therrien Subject: Re: Zenith-List: UPS charges for aircraft parts to Canada --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien :-) The 5$ with USPS is charged only if the value is above 20$ and what I found is that often, I've not been charged for taxes and 5$ even for more expansive shipments. For UPS.... I refuse to deal with them since I bought a 4$ tube of oxygen compatible lube and paid 26$ in brokerage fees. When a supplier cannot ship with other methods... I buy somewhereelse (I don't deal with Harbor Freight for this reason, as an example). Michel do not archive --- Mike Fothergill wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill > > > Hi; > This has been discussed before but here is a very > current example of UPS > charges on shipments to Canada from USA. A > replacement aircraft part > returned to me from California with no duty or taxes > owing or deserved > had a brokerage fee of $Cdn 53.00. I phoned UPS to > complain. They said > that it was a percentage of the articles value. It > has nothing to do > with the amount of work done to clear it through > customs. A UPS tax!!!! > Use Express post to Canada. They have a flat $5.00 > fee. I know that > parcels cannot be tracked by post but I have never > had a loss in 50 > years. Not a bad risk. > My 2 cents. I am angry. Can you tell? > Mike ===== ---------------------------- Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601 http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby __________________________________ http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:40:23 AM PST US From: Bill Cardell Subject: RE: Zenith-List: UPS charges for aircraft parts to Canada --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bill Cardell Just remember, if you don't want to pay ups the brokerage, use expedited or express ups and all fees are built in. Often comes out cheaper/faster than ground. do not archive Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad) bill@flyinmiata.com Flyin' Miata 1-800-359-6957 (sales only) 970-242-3800 (tech support) http://flyinmiata.com -----Original Message----- From: Michel Therrien [mailto:mtherr@yahoo.com] Subject: Re: Zenith-List: UPS charges for aircraft parts to Canada --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien :-) The 5$ with USPS is charged only if the value is above 20$ and what I found is that often, I've not been charged for taxes and 5$ even for more expansive shipments. For UPS.... I refuse to deal with them since I bought a 4$ tube of oxygen compatible lube and paid 26$ in brokerage fees. When a supplier cannot ship with other methods... I buy somewhereelse (I don't deal with Harbor Freight for this reason, as an example). Michel do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:12:00 PM PST US From: Mike Fothergill Subject: Re: Zenith-List: UPS charges for aircraft parts to Canada --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill In other words. Pay up front rather than later. That does not wash. Mike Bill Cardell wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bill Cardell > > Just remember, if you don't want to pay ups the brokerage, use expedited or > express ups and all fees are built in. Often comes out cheaper/faster than > ground. > > do not archive > Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad) > bill@flyinmiata.com > Flyin' Miata > 1-800-359-6957 (sales only) > 970-242-3800 (tech support) > http://flyinmiata.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michel Therrien [mailto:mtherr@yahoo.com] > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: UPS charges for aircraft parts to Canada > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien > > :-) > > The 5$ with USPS is charged only if the value is above > 20$ and what I found is that often, I've not been > charged for taxes and 5$ even for more expansive > shipments. > > For UPS.... I refuse to deal with them since I bought > a 4$ tube of oxygen compatible lube and paid 26$ in > brokerage fees. When a supplier cannot ship with > other methods... I buy somewhereelse (I don't deal > with Harbor Freight for this reason, as an example). > > Michel > do not archive > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:30:03 PM PST US From: "Lowell Metz" Subject: Zenith-List: Voltage Regulator, Rectifier --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lowell Metz" To those of you with the Rotax 912 / 912-S I have a question : After about 12 hours my regulator started putting out upwards to 19 volts and obviously set off my EIS light. Lockwood replaced it with a new one under warrantee and I was fine for a while but the new regulator started producing spikes up to 15 volts so I fashioned a ram air duct with scat tube to blow cool air directly on the regulator which is mounted high on the firewall as shown on the plans. This seemed to help keep the voltage within the manuals output spec until today. At 60 hours the second regulator voltage is climbing and when I landed it was putting out 17.4 volts. Has anyone had a similar experience or has had faulty regulators ? What might the cause be and what might be a solution to the problem. The regulator / rectifier is the supplied Ducatti unit which is finned aluminum and has a "potted " bottom so there is no external adjustment to reduce or set the voltage output. I sure don't want to cook my battery or worse make it "splode" . Lowell Metz 701 / 912-S Venice, FL. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:44:42 PM PST US From: Mike Fothergill Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Voltage Regulator, Rectifier --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill Hi; Do you have the "C" lead on the regulator connected correctly? Mike UHS Spinners Lowell Metz wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lowell Metz" > > To those of you with the Rotax 912 / 912-S I have a question : After about 12 hours my regulator started putting out upwards to 19 volts and obviously set off my EIS light. Lockwood replaced it with a new one under warrantee and I was fine for a while but the new regulator started producing spikes up to 15 volts so I fashioned a ram air duct with scat tube to blow cool air directly on the regulator which is mounted high on the firewall as shown on the plans. This seemed to help keep the voltage within the manuals output spec until today. At 60 hours the second regulator voltage is climbing and when I landed it was putting out 17.4 volts. > Has anyone had a similar experience or has had faulty regulators ? What might the cause be and what might be a solution to the problem. > The regulator / rectifier is the supplied Ducatti unit which is finned aluminum and has a "potted " bottom so there is no external adjustment to reduce or set the voltage output. I sure don't want to cook my battery or worse make it "splode" . > > Lowell Metz > 701 / 912-S > Venice, FL. > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:37:03 PM PST US From: Zed Smith Subject: Zenith-List: Re: voltage regulator --> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith Again, I'm in office, not in hangar.....however, if memory serves, the regulator case needs to be well grounded, as do all other wires/conductors specified as "ground" or "earth" (I forget the German phrase). Secondly, ALL the grounds need to reference ONE point, not just tied to the airframe here and there. Reason for this is that the regulator "references" ground, and if it is several Ohms above ground you'll have problems. Another thing is the filter capacitor. Unless it is of "computer grade" quality, it may well change value and/or impedance with a rise in temperature (you may NOT be filtering after it warms up and therefore puttig all sorts of hash on your 12 volt DC system) But we all knew that. Respectfully Submitted, Zed/701/R912/90+% as always do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:41:27 PM PST US From: Zed Smith Subject: Zenith-List: Fees.... --> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith do not archive And while I'm on a roll, here goes........ This is NOT intended to start some kind of international squabble, but consider some other options: Convince Aircraft Spruce, and/or others, to open a branch in Canada. Move to the States. It only hits 100 degrees F half the summer. Have stuff shipped to Cousin Joe in Detroit (or somewhere close) and drive over to get it. Open your own Brokerage House. Have it shipped from the U.S. to Greenland (or some other place), then back to Canada (there must be some routing where the fees do not apply). Have the stuff e-mailed to you. Have the shipper put one aspirin in the box, make the manifest show "Medical supplies" or some other phrase that warrants a free pass. Find a class/catagory of freight that is exempt from the fees, figure a way to re-name your parts. Have the shipper send you an "empty box" but use the parts as "packing material". If there is a Canadian equivalent of APO/FPO (military) mailing addresses, use that. Since the parts were first owned by the manufacturer, then the seller, and you are the third owner, these must be "used" parts and may qualify for NO FEE. Have it shipped as "baggage" on Greyhound. Have it shipped in a large briefcase marked "Diplomatic Pouch". There is usually more than one method of "skinning a cat". Sometimes you need to start at the other end. Seriously though, if the same parts were bought by someone in the States FROM a firm in Canada, and these parts were shipped to the buyer in the States, does the same ripoff apply? Looks like you guys are being taken for a ride by TWO national governments. Surely there is a way around this problem. Zed/701/R912/90% again, DO NOT ARCHIVE, its not worth reading.....certainly not worth saving! ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:28:55 PM PST US From: "Thilo Kind" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Spark problems on Rotax 912 again... --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thilo Kind" Hi Greg, sounds very familiar.Last year, my 912 started to run rough one time and then I was unable to start it again. I tried everything. Checked the fuel system - was okay. Checked the electrical system (some guys had troubles with some of the connectors). Tried an ignition tester, but got varrying results. Removed the spark plugs, reset the gaps, tried to see the spark, but didn't see anything. Tried big car battery. It just turned over, but didn't fire. Enlisted the help of some very experienced engine specialists - again nothing. Then finally I found something interesting: the choke on the left carb didn't open completely, when the choke was fully pulled. The gap between the choke lever on the carb and the stop was approx. 1 mm. After I corrected that the engine fired right up. No problems since then. Maybe this will help so. Good luck with your engine. Best regards Thilo Kind ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Page" Subject: Zenith-List: Spark problems on Rotax 912 again... > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page > > So today was nice, pulled the plane out, tied her down, chocked it, > added a little fuel and gave her a test. She will not fire up. > > Now, I have fuel in the lines, carb bowls are full. I removed a couple > of plugs and there is the smell of fuel. Squirted in a teeny bit of > fuel in each jug and tried again. Nothing. > So I removed all the top plugs and tested for spark. Nothing. So I'm > back to square one. Yesterday I had spark on 2 plugs (I only checked a > couple) and today I get nothing. Now I haven't changed anything since > yesterday. My mind keeps going back to the battery perhaps not having > enough oomph to get that magical 220RPM. The engine seems to turn over > with plenty of gusto however. I don't have a timing light and I seem to > have misplaced my jumper cables as I wanted to try jumping the plane > from my car just to see if the bat is at fault. My battery is a > Panasonic 18AMP gel battery. I don't mind changing it if required but > is 18AMPs enough? Do more AMPs give me more RPM for starting? > > Is there something I'm missing or I can test this spark problem? > > Thanks a million! > > Trev > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:59:46 PM PST US From: "Dave Austin" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Spark problems on Rotax 912 again... --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Austin" Trev, the 18 is amp/hours, not amps. Means you can draw 18 amps for 1 hour or 100 amps for 10.8 minutes. As long as it is charged and your battery leads are not too long it should do the job. Are you sure you are FULLY closing the throttle when trying to start? If not, the choke does nothing! Dave Austin 601HDS - 912 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:04:21 PM PST US From: "Dave" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Voltage Regulator, Rectifier --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave" That is why you put in an overvoltage protection circuit in. -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lowell Metz Subject: Zenith-List: Voltage Regulator, Rectifier --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lowell Metz" To those of you with the Rotax 912 / 912-S I have a question : After about 12 hours my regulator started putting out upwards to 19 volts and obviously set off my EIS light. Lockwood replaced it with a new one under warrantee and I was fine for a while but the new regulator started producing spikes up to 15 volts so I fashioned a ram air duct with scat tube to blow cool air directly on the regulator which is mounted high on the firewall as shown on the plans. This seemed to help keep the voltage within the manuals output spec until today. At 60 hours the second regulator voltage is climbing and when I landed it was putting out 17.4 volts. Has anyone had a similar experience or has had faulty regulators ? What might the cause be and what might be a solution to the problem. The regulator / rectifier is the supplied Ducatti unit which is finned aluminum and has a "potted " bottom so there is no external adjustment to reduce or set the voltage output. I sure don't want to cook my battery or worse make it "splode" . Lowell Metz 701 / 912-S Venice, FL. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:22:36 PM PST US From: "Jeffrey Glasserow" Subject: Zenith-List: Increasing gross weight --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Glasserow" I'd like input from you listers on the feasability of increasing the gross weight of my HDS from 1200 to 1300 lbs. The previous owner told he he often flew the plane at or near 1300 lbs. with no ill effects. When looking for HDS POH's I noticed that there are a few HDS's out there with published gross weights of 1300 lbs. I sure could use the legal extra weight! In any event I'm going to have the plane re-weighed with me in it to establish proper weight and balance criteria since it hasn't been weighed since 1999. Jeff Glasserow CH 601 HDS N6384E ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:35:58 PM PST US From: ron dewees Subject: Re: Zenith-List: DAR Costs --> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees Hi Bill, I don't blame you for not finding the number for MIDO. It's not in the blue pages of the phone book for Atlanta area. I had to call the general number and even got a wrong number. Somebody finally gave me the right number. It's 770 703 6100. The only two folks I know are Curtis ROgers and Richard Arnett. Arnett is a Senior Aviation Inspector. Neither will answer the phone so just tell the operator you need to get info for licensing an amature airplane. They inspect certified and large planes too, so they need to know.The office is out near the Atlanta airport It would be good to establish at least a telephone relationship with them as that is where you will send your application for inspection. If they remember you and want to be nice to you they can call you up and let you know if you goofed on your application and save you time before rejecting it or sending it back in the mail. Good luck and where do you live? Ron JAPhillipsGA@aol.com wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com > >Dear Ron DeWees, You wrote that you called the MIDO here in Georgia to start >your inspection process. Can you send me the telephone number for that branch >office? Thanks, Bill of Georgia > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:37:07 PM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Increasing gross weight From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" Are you fluing as a sport pilot aircraft? I don't know how to re-plate it but it sure won't be Sport pilot friendly at 1300lbs...:) Frank HDS 350 hours -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Glasserow Subject: Zenith-List: Increasing gross weight --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Glasserow" --> I'd like input from you listers on the feasability of increasing the gross weight of my HDS from 1200 to 1300 lbs. The previous owner told he he often flew the plane at or near 1300 lbs. with no ill effects. When looking for HDS POH's I noticed that there are a few HDS's out there with published gross weights of 1300 lbs. I sure could use the legal extra weight! In any event I'm going to have the plane re-weighed with me in it to establish proper weight and balance criteria since it hasn't been weighed since 1999. Jeff Glasserow CH 601 HDS N6384E ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:53:15 PM PST US From: "Larry McFarland" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Increasing gross weight --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" > I'd like input from you listers on the feasability of increasing the gross > weight of my HDS from 1200 to 1300 lbs. > The previous owner told he he often flew the plane at or near 1300 lbs. > with > no ill effects. When looking for HDS POH's I noticed that there are a few > HDS's out there with published gross weights of 1300 lbs. I sure could > use > the legal extra weight! > Jeff Glasserow > CH 601 HDS > N6384E Jeff, The thing I'd add to your awareness is; Consider the 1300 lbs a special load limit, above 1200 lbs, as reminder that you need smooth runways, good air and a delicate touch during landings. The 601HDS built to Rev 4 provides you a 3.5 G loading at that weight. Kind of like the cautionary airspeed zone between maneuvering and redline in your aircraft. Reduce your speed in convectives and land softly! Larry C. McFarland ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:18:18 PM PST US From: "Jeffrey Glasserow" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Increasing gross weight --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Glasserow" On the contrary! SPA legal up to 1320 lbs. gross weight with fixed gear. 1460 lbs. if you put your 601 0n floats... Jeff -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis) Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Increasing gross weight --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" Are you fluing as a sport pilot aircraft? I don't know how to re-plate it but it sure won't be Sport pilot friendly at 1300lbs...:) Frank HDS 350 hours -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Glasserow Subject: Zenith-List: Increasing gross weight --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Glasserow" --> I'd like input from you listers on the feasability of increasing the gross weight of my HDS from 1200 to 1300 lbs. The previous owner told he he often flew the plane at or near 1300 lbs. with no ill effects. When looking for HDS POH's I noticed that there are a few HDS's out there with published gross weights of 1300 lbs. I sure could use the legal extra weight! In any event I'm going to have the plane re-weighed with me in it to establish proper weight and balance criteria since it hasn't been weighed since 1999. Jeff Glasserow CH 601 HDS N6384E ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:29:31 PM PST US From: Mike Fothergill Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fees.... --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill Yes, there is. Use Express post. Mike Zed Smith wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith > > do not archive > And while I'm on a roll, here goes........ > > This is NOT intended to start some kind of international squabble, but consider some other options: > > Convince Aircraft Spruce, and/or others, to open a branch in Canada. > Move to the States. It only hits 100 degrees F half the summer. > Have stuff shipped to Cousin Joe in Detroit (or somewhere close) and drive over to get it. > Open your own Brokerage House. > Have it shipped from the U.S. to Greenland (or some other place), then back to Canada (there must be some routing where the fees do not apply). > Have the stuff e-mailed to you. > Have the shipper put one aspirin in the box, make the manifest show "Medical supplies" or some other phrase that warrants a free pass. > Find a class/catagory of freight that is exempt from the fees, figure a way to re-name your parts. > Have the shipper send you an "empty box" but use the parts as "packing material". > If there is a Canadian equivalent of APO/FPO (military) mailing addresses, use that. > Since the parts were first owned by the manufacturer, then the seller, and you are the third owner, these must be "used" parts and may qualify for NO FEE. > Have it shipped as "baggage" on Greyhound. > Have it shipped in a large briefcase marked "Diplomatic Pouch". > > There is usually more than one method of "skinning a cat". Sometimes you need to start at the other end. > > Seriously though, if the same parts were bought by someone in the States FROM a firm in Canada, and these parts were shipped to the buyer in the States, does the same ripoff apply? > > Looks like you guys are being taken for a ride by TWO national governments. > Surely there is a way around this problem. > > Zed/701/R912/90% > > again, DO NOT ARCHIVE, its not worth reading.....certainly not worth saving! > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:37:40 PM PST US From: "george may" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Voltage Regulator, Rectifier --> Zenith-List message posted by: "george may" Lowell-- I've had similar problems wth the regulator I use on my Kitfox 582. I lost 2 of them , one to over voltage and one to low voltage. Finally got rid of them and went to a West regulator. 150 hours with the West and no problems George May 601XL >From: "Lowell Metz" >Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com >To: "Zenith List" >Subject: Zenith-List: Voltage Regulator, Rectifier >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 16:31:54 -0500 > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lowell Metz" > > To those of you with the Rotax 912 / 912-S I have a question : After >about 12 hours my regulator started putting out upwards to 19 volts and >obviously set off my EIS light. Lockwood replaced it with a new one under >warrantee and I was fine for a while but the new regulator started >producing spikes up to 15 volts so I fashioned a ram air duct with scat >tube to blow cool air directly on the regulator which is mounted high on >the firewall as shown on the plans. This seemed to help keep the voltage >within the manuals output spec until today. At 60 hours the second >regulator voltage is climbing and when I landed it was putting out 17.4 >volts. > Has anyone had a similar experience or has had faulty regulators ? >What might the cause be and what might be a solution to the problem. > The regulator / rectifier is the supplied Ducatti unit which is finned >aluminum and has a "potted " bottom so there is no external adjustment to >reduce or set the voltage output. I sure don't want to cook my battery or >worse make it "splode" . > >Lowell Metz >701 / 912-S >Venice, FL. > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 07:07:03 PM PST US From: "cgalley" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Increasing gross weight --> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" Talk to your FSDO but if you have the "new" operating limitations then you could Change the Gross Weight in the logs, make a test flight at that weight and sign it off. Might have to fly until you have an additional 5 hours as that is the test period for Major changes. But Check with your FSDO to see what they want. Cy Galley EAA Safety Programs Editor Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Glasserow" Subject: Zenith-List: Increasing gross weight > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Glasserow" > > I'd like input from you listers on the feasability of increasing the gross > weight of my HDS from 1200 to 1300 lbs. > The previous owner told he he often flew the plane at or near 1300 lbs. with > no ill effects. When looking for HDS POH's I noticed that there are a few > HDS's out there with published gross weights of 1300 lbs. I sure could use > the legal extra weight! In any event I'm going to have the plane re-weighed > with me in it to establish proper weight and balance criteria since it > hasn't been weighed since 1999. > Jeff Glasserow > CH 601 HDS > N6384E > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 07:18:37 PM PST US From: "cgalley" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Increasing gross weight --> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" Why not? 1320 is the limit under the new "Sport Pilot" If you go to 1300 then you need to see if you can meet the Stall speed of 51 mph AT that weight. P.S. They did raise the Gross from 1230 to 1320 under the final rule. Cy Galley EAA Safety Programs Editor Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Increasing gross weight > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" > > Are you fluing as a sport pilot aircraft? I don't know how to re-plate > it but it sure won't be Sport pilot friendly at 1300lbs...:) > > Frank > HDS 350 hours > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey > Glasserow > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Zenith-List: Increasing gross weight > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Glasserow" > --> > > I'd like input from you listers on the feasability of increasing the > gross weight of my HDS from 1200 to 1300 lbs. > The previous owner told he he often flew the plane at or near 1300 lbs. > with no ill effects. When looking for HDS POH's I noticed that there are > a few > HDS's out there with published gross weights of 1300 lbs. I sure could > use > the legal extra weight! In any event I'm going to have the plane > re-weighed with me in it to establish proper weight and balance criteria > since it hasn't been weighed since 1999. > Jeff Glasserow > CH 601 HDS > N6384E > >